Thinking of trading for a 2011 Ford Super duty tomorrow. I've had my 2011 LML Dually LTZ for 4 months and have had nothing but stupid issues. Picked it up the temperature gauge didn't work. Dealer had to re-flash before i left the dealership. I've been through two rear tailgate bowties that are still pealing. Of coarse i've had the def problem with the gauge not resetting. One day it decided to limit itself to 55 mph because it thought it was out of DEF. The p0299 code went off multiple times. It hasn't driven straight since day one. still needs to go in for the alignment. At 8000 miles the brakes are warped to hell shaking the wheel terribly every time i step on them. I haven't towed but 200 miles when i originally got the truck! The fender on the RF paint started peeling off! I fixed it because i'm a body man luckily and the dealership said they would pay me when I was done. Well after removing and installing everything touching the fender since it is 2011 and I am going to fix it right the dealership tells me that GM allows $127.00 to fix the fender. I told them are you kidding me!!! I have more in material almost! I am very feed up with this $55,000 garage ornament. Is there any reason that I shouldn't get rid of this POS???

Well, I can feel your pain.....I owned a 2004 Pontiac GTO that had more problems than all the other cars I've ever owned COMBINED. You'll see my answer to GM in my avatar. Unfortunately, there's a bad egg in every bunch.

I would ask that you come back from time to time to share in the experience of going to the darker side. No matter what you or they do to the one you have, you'll always have those experiences in the back of your head. Get rid of it, either for another of the same or a Ford.


With all of that said, the bowtie can be replaced under warranty until the warranty is gone.
The DEF system is very quickly getting the bugs worked out (even my 2011 Peterbilt with DEF required a DEF reflash update and component change).
The brakes warped to hell is a fault of the brake pedal sticking (and there is a PIT on that).
The paint, well, I've never had a GM paint problem on the trucks, but, a written bill and pictures can be submitted directly to GM via any dealer. No fender can be touched for less than $400 IMHO.
The alignment issue is truly one of those "you need a better alignment technician" if it hasn't already been aligned).

With all of that said, the bowtie can be replaced under warranty until the warranty is gone.
The DEF system is very quickly getting the bugs worked out (even my 2011 Peterbilt with DEF required a DEF reflash update and component change).
The brakes warped to hell is a fault of the brake pedal sticking (and there is a PIT on that).
The paint, well, I've never had a GM paint problem on the trucks, but, a written bill and pictures can be submitted directly to GM via any dealer. No fender can be touched for less than $400 IMHO.
The alignment issue is truly one of those "you need a better alignment technician" if it hasn't already been aligned).


They keep giving me bowties to replace them but it just gets ridiculous after a couple haha. I didn't know of the PIT on the brakes. Greatly appreciated. If you have a 2011 you can stop the paint pealing. It is from the dirt from the road in between the rubber that goes from the bumper to under the headlight and fender. It chafed the paint till it rubbed through the paint then it started to peel. It started on the LF fender to but i could cut a line under the edge of the fender where you can't see so i didn't have to spray the whole fender. To stop it you just have to cut the rubber under the fender so it doesn't touch the fender. I have pictures i will post later. Luckily i caught the peeling when it started so it didn't rust yet or peel back further. I've grown up in the body business and it just drives me nuts because our dealership tries to be a d**k head to me about paying because I'm only 20.

looks like you need a better dealer :(

moved to warranty issues

Wow man. I would lemon law that POS and look at the 2012 Dodge coming out. 800lb ft of torque with no urea. And the new Dodges are hands down better than the new Chevy's. I really like the Ford too.

I testdrove all 3 2011 trucks and would rank em Dodge, Ford and then Chevy.

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Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble with your truck. I traded my lbz for a 2011 f250, I figured after working for Ford for over 20 years I would try one. After owning it for 8 months I traded it for a 2011 GMC 2500. The Ford didn't give me to many problems, I had to put a short block in it and one cylinder head because the exhaust valve broke and destroyed the piston, cylinder wall and head, we've had one other truck in the shop for the same problem, i had a few other small issues with it but at least I got paid to fix them. So far I like the GMC better, I like the ride, it stops better, pulls my trailer better, the seats are more comfortable for my butt and gets a little better mileage. The Ford had a little more room in the cab, more ground clearance, and a few features the GMC didn't offer, but I'm happy I made the trade. Good luck with your decision, I know I would be frustrated if I was having those problems with my truck.

I hope you get it all worked out man, that is terrible to hear. I know that I had issues with GM back starting in 2006 and I jumped ship to Ford and have been driving F250's and F350's ever since. I think you will be happy with the 2011 or wait a little while and get a 2012, they will be out in July or Aug...

FWIW: My bro has the 2010 Superduty and has nothing but problems with the DPF. His truck got stuck in Regen mode six times, 7 miles to the gallon! Finally he just got rid of the DPF.

Sorry for your problems man, but my 2011 is one bad MOE FOE, and that ain't no lie.

2011 SILVERADO 4X4 CC, Z71, CHRM, TOW, LTPLS PACS.

If I remember correctly the D-max destroyed the F-250 in the 1v1 test in last months mag. DESTROYED it lol. Whatever way you go I hope you dont run into any of those problems thats B.S. and I would be pissed. Best of luck.

Thinking of trading for a 2011 Ford Super duty tomorrow. I've had my 2011 LML Dually LTZ for 4 months and have had nothing but stupid issues. Picked it up the temperature gauge didn't work. Dealer had to re-flash before i left the dealership. I've been through two rear tailgate bowties that are still pealing. Of coarse i've had the def problem with the gauge not resetting. One day it decided to limit itself to 55 mph because it thought it was out of DEF. The p0299 code went off multiple times. It hasn't driven straight since day one. still needs to go in for the alignment. At 8000 miles the brakes are warped to hell shaking the wheel terribly every time i step on them. I haven't towed but 200 miles when i originally got the truck! The fender on the RF paint started peeling off! I fixed it because i'm a body man luckily and the dealership said they would pay me when I was done. Well after removing and installing everything touching the fender since it is 2011 and I am going to fix it right the dealership tells me that GM allows $127.00 to fix the fender. I told them are you kidding me!!! I have more in material almost! I am very feed up with this $55,000 garage ornament. Is there any reason that I shouldn't get rid of this POS???

Wow.......It sounds like your truck has every problem these trucks have had. I have heard of all of those on here(except the paint issue), but only a few cases of each.

My truck has had the rear bowtie replaced once, and the new one is the ****ed again. I order a polished aluminum one to get rid of that problem!

To be honest, it sounds like you need a new dealer. The temp sensor, 0299, DEF(mostly), alignment, and brakes should have been fixed by now. They know about all of those problems and there is a fix for all of those issues. The bowtie won't change until they fix they way they are sealing them and I'm not too sure on the paint situation(other than hopefully they pay you back and it won't happen again)....

Good luck with everything.........hopefully you don't have any more problems(if you keep it).

And the new Dodges are hands down better than the new Chevy's.

Care to explain how????

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Take the bowtie off, it looks stupid anyways lol

One problem fixed, 15 to go!

I thought about getting an LML Denali, I'll stick with my LBZ for a while I'm thinking.

I have had Chevys and fords. I drive a 2011 F450 that's for sale. There isn't anything wrong with it I'm just not in love with it. The sad part is I paid 65k on the road and will have a hard time getting 53k,7 months and 8000 miles later.
I just tonight started looking at the 2011 chevy. It seems chevy/GM has more issues than the 2011 ford.
I drove the 2011 dodge but the suspension was so tight I could feel every stone in the road. I saw a post that 1 guy said he looked at all 3 trucks and said dodge was the best, I'm not sure how he decided that. Dodge has a 4 year old drivetrain that's less power than gm&ford but it has a few less problems. This is only because they have had 4 years working out the bugs. The GM interior and ride is the best in class.
I was thinking of trading my ford for a GM but after reading the posts about the GM I will wait for the 2012 dodge with the 8spd trans.

I would sell your truck and find a nice used 2002-03. If you are having as many problems as you say. Good luck

Wow man. I would lemon law that POS and look at the 2012 Dodge coming out. 800lb ft of torque with no urea. And the new Dodges are hands down better than the new Chevy's. I really like the Ford too.

I testdrove all 3 2011 trucks and would rank em Dodge, Ford and then Chevy.

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Then stop talking about how wonderful it is, and buy the friggin' Dodge and go away already!:D

wow that really sucks i had 3 lemon laded fords before my chevy ford have a real nice cab but the power joke and all the other things just arnt that good my 08 ford f2shitty had problems towing my 15,000 pound horse trailer and got horrible gas milege while doing so my chevy handles it like its not even there and i still get 10-14 mpg. go to a diffrent dealer and stay away from ford if anything a cummins i heard they got allison helpen em with the trannys now

I looked at the new trucks, Dodge, Ford and GM. Yes they ride nice and have more power, but not worth the extra money. My LLY runs perfect, most likely gets better MPG's and doesn't have to worry about all the extra smog crap on the new trucks. Not to mention paying 50K plus for the truck and still having the cost of filling up at $4.00 plus a gallon.

Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble with your truck. I traded my lbz for a 2011 f250, I figured after working for Ford for over 20 years I would try one. After owning it for 8 months I traded it for a 2011 GMC 2500. The Ford didn't give me to many problems, I had to put a short block in it and one cylinder head because the exhaust valve broke and destroyed the piston, cylinder wall and head, we've had one other truck in the shop for the same problem, i had a few other small issues with it but at least I got paid to fix them. So far I like the GMC better, I like the ride, it stops better, pulls my trailer better, the seats are more comfortable for my butt and gets a little better mileage. The Ford had a little more room in the cab, more ground clearance, and a few features the GMC didn't offer, but I'm happy I made the trade. Good luck with your decision, I know I would be frustrated if I was having those problems with my truck.
i think that having to put a new block and cylinder head on that 2011 powerstoke is a little more than "didn't give me to many problems", yeah it was under warranty, yeah you fixed your own truck and got paid for it, but id take a gauge acting up, and some other small bs things then having to have a new motor put in..then the only thing i could think of is, is this going to happen again??what if it blows up out of warranty?? youve seen another 2011 powerstroke blown up, so this wasn't just a one in a million type deal..if youve seen 2 already, hard telling how many more powerstrokes have blown up acrost the U.S.

Lemon your truck get a new one, there is a rare one in a batch every million years. The thing is there are millions driving happy and one of them being me. If you are trying to compare ford and dodge to Gm dont cause they arent in the same league a matter of fact not even close. My best friend has a 2011 Dodge and his brother a 2011 Ford all nice pickups. At the end of the day we all hop in my truck because its the nicer of the three, Fit and finish etc. How could you ever turn your back on a Duramax/Allison combo? Ill tell you what, they all agree there next truck will be Gm! Hope everything works out, PS.......... Allison is not working with DODGE LOL

i think that having to put a new block and cylinder head on that 2011 powerstoke is a little more than "didn't give me to many problems", yeah it was under warranty, yeah you fixed your own truck and got paid for it, but id take a gauge acting up, and some other small bs things then having to have a new motor put in..then the only thing i could think of is, is this going to happen again??what if it blows up out of warranty?? youve seen another 2011 powerstroke blown up, so this wasn't just a one in a million type deal..if youve seen 2 already, hard telling how many more powerstrokes have blown up acrost the U.S.
Agreed, LOL YIKES!!!!!!!! You just don't hear that with GM, and never really have!

If a motor has gone once, it is bound to go again, just an unwritten rule!!!!!

Wow man. I would lemon law that POS and look at the 2012 Dodge coming out. 800lb ft of torque with no urea. And the new Dodges are hands down better than the new Chevy's. I really like the Ford too.

I testdrove all 3 2011 trucks and would rank em Dodge, Ford and then Chevy.

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Hahaha, that must be some awesome stuff your smokin (Dodge hands down better)----im still laughing. Truck trend as Gm number one by a landslide. I know everyone has there own opinions but my goodness unless your idea of a good truck is a ride stiffer then snott, less power and a cab that is likely to fall apart in 10 years I couldnt disagree more! You should buy a Dodge and let us know how it works out for you, I have a 2010 Cummins (practially the same as a 2011) and its the biggest mistake I have made to date. Thank god I let my guys thrash it as a work truck! Hell now everyone knows I bought a Dodge, see what you made me do :(

If a motor has gone once, it is bound to go again, just an unwritten rule!!!!!
well if he said that he had a big tune and got stupid and melted a piston and the carnage went from there, then w/e it was his fault...but a its a bone stock low mileage, brand new designed 2011 powerstroke self destructing itself, i would trade that POS off as soon as it got another motor...i thought that this motor was post to be a bad Mother cause ford made it "in house" and did all this testing and bla bla, well looks like you failed again ford...

I've been driving trucks since the 60's. I've owned Fords, Chev's and Dodges. The one thing they all had in common was, I had problems with every single one. My '07 LBZ only stays in my stable because at my age I've gotten more tolerant. I switched to Honda cars 13 years ago and am driving my 4th one. I have yet to take one back to the dealer for anything except recalls. My next truck will be a Tundra. Sorry, but America killed the golden goose.

get educated on dodges before you go spouting off like that..

dodges are 1 thing...SHIT...pure and simple.Take it from a guy who has done 20+years at gm and the last 2 with dodge...there is no comparison.

the a/c's need an 1800 dollar repair every summer(notice how many dodges you see with the windows down)..the tie rods fall off without warning..the ball joints are a semi-annual thing...the rear ends are a joke...the dashes rot in 5 years..even the vaunted cummins needs head gaskets and injectors failry reguarly.

ok,let's hear it...why do you love these turds?

get educated on dodges before you go spouting off like that..

dodges are 1 thing...SHIT...pure and simple.Take it from a guy who has done 20+years at gm and the last 2 with dodge...there is no comparison.

the a/c's need an 1800 dollar repair every summer(notice how many dodges you see with the windows down)..the tie rods fall off without warning..the ball joints are a semi-annual thing...the rear ends are a joke...the dashes rot in 5 years..even the vaunted cummins needs head gaskets and injectors failry reguarly.

ok,let's hear it...why do you love these turds?
haha you are spot on my friend haha...my 01 cummins needed the a/c charged every year,ball joints every 10,000-20,000 miles,wheel bearings 40,000-50,000, put a viynal dash overlay over my cracked dash,my dads 03 is cracked also,his is also on his 3rd set of injectors,had an 89 cummins also and the tie rod fell off in my driveway when i was 16, and don't forget the rear joints don't last for nothin, i bought a lifetime warranty so i got free replacements, and boy did i use them..i think they call it the "death wobble".. my dad had that in his 03 several times...which is the steering wheel trys to get ripped out of your hands, the truck shakes extremely violently, feels like the front end is going to get ripped apart, this happenes to alot of them, not for sure if dodge got that fixed or not.

haha you are spot on my friend haha...my 01 cummins needed the a/c charged every year,ball joints every 10,000-20,000 miles,wheel bearings 40,000-50,000, put a viynal dash overlay over my cracked dash,my dads 03 is cracked also,his is also on his 3rd set of injectors,had an 89 cummins also and the tie rod fell off in my driveway when i was 16, and don't forget the rear joints don't last for nothin, i bought a lifetime warranty so i got free replacements, and boy did i use them..i think they call it the "death wobble".. my dad had that in his 03 several times...which is the steering wheel trys to get ripped out of your hands, the truck shakes extremely violently, feels like the front end is going to get ripped apart, this happenes to alot of them, not for sure if dodge got that fixed or not.
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And the new Dodges are hands down better than the new Chevy's. I really like the Ford too.

I testdrove all 3 2011 trucks and would rank em Dodge, Ford and then Chevy.

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You need to buy one. Don't just talk the talk, do it.

Wow.......It sounds like your truck has every problem these trucks have had. I have heard of all of those on here(except the paint issue), but only a few cases of each.

My truck has had the rear bowtie replaced once, and the new one is the ****ed again. I order a polished aluminum one to get rid of that problem!

To be honest, it sounds like you need a new dealer. The temp sensor, 0299, DEF(mostly), alignment, and brakes should have been fixed by now. They know about all of those problems and there is a fix for all of those issues. The bowtie won't change until they fix they way they are sealing them and I'm not too sure on the paint situation(other than hopefully they pay you back and it won't happen again)....

Good luck with everything.........hopefully you don't have any more problems(if you keep it).



Care to explain how????

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Cuz it haves the great Cummings Diesel in it...

I am sorry to hear of your troubles. I have had my sure but mine is a work truck and I love the duramax trucks. IMO I have to say I would never step down to a Ford I have owned 1 and that was enough for me. I would go for the DODGE before a FORD. Good luck in whatever you decide.

Update on this POS. Brought it to the dealer today and got the alignment done that was excellent but then the service manager said he hasn't heard from GM about rein-bursting me for fixing my fender and that my brakes can't be turned because they don't have the adapter and they cant put rotors on it because GM won't allow that he will have to call them. So I told him you mean I'm shit outta luck then huh? He said well I'll call and ask. So i called GM's complaint department and told them everything and they put me on hold called the service manager and said we will get back to you within one business day. Three weeks and the service manager didn't do anything took me one day. Pathetic.

Oh and as well looks like I'm stuck with a Chevy. I tried a Ford out that was the worst riding, driving, gutless pig of a HD truck I've ever driven. Couldn't buy one even if my Chevy left me stranded 19 times. As for a Dodge well I don't have the desire to lose that much money on a truck as soon as I drive it off the lot. I drove my 2008 GMC SLT Duramax dually brand new and traded it for $300 less than I paid new after 3 years of driving it. I'd be happy if the dealer didn't ride the short bus.

Like many have said, not all dealers are created equal.... find a new one

GM dealers are capable of having the rotors cut at an independent shop. Yes, they can do it ;) .
As for the vibration, warped rotors on a 2011 are DEFINTELY related to a sticking brake pedal. Has that been addressed?

wow that really sucks i had 3 lemon laded fords before my chevy ford have a real nice cab but the power joke and all the other things just arnt that good my 08 ford f2shitty had problems towing my 15,000 pound horse trailer and got horrible gas milege while doing so my chevy handles it like its not even there and i still get 10-14 mpg. go to a diffrent dealer and stay away from ford if anything a cummins i heard they got allison helpen em with the trannys now

You're '08 was different from the '11 models, and I am a die hard Ford guy but I'll be the first to tell you that the 6.4L was a shit motor, maybe not quite as shitty as the 6.0 but then it wasn't around as long either. As far as the new 6.7 PowerStroke, I've got a few buddies that have them and are very happy with them. It is kinda early to tell for sure, but I think that 6.7 may well turn into a good motor for Ford (they damn sure need it after the 6.0 and 6.4:D). And as far as Allison helpin with the trannys on the Dodges, that is just a pure disgrace to the Dodge and the Cummins. Call me old fashioned if you want, but GM ain't made a diesel worth a shit since the 6.5L, Ford went to shit after the 7.3L PowerStroke, and Dodge screwed up by dropping the 5.9L.

If it was me, I would sell that junk ass Duramax and buy about an 01-02 Ford 7.3L

If it was me, I would sell that junk ass Duramax and buy about an 01-02 Ford 7.3L

The Duramax is the best thing since sliced bread thats not the issue at hand. As for the brakes I own a brake lathe that could do these brakes I just don't see the need to take my own time but from the looks I'm getting new rotors, the brake pedal got disregarded even though I told the dealer there was a TSB for the brake pedal sticking, and I am switching to another dealer.

I once had a new (to me) BMW that had a horrific brake pulsation at speeds over 60 mph. Took it to sears (it was a sunday, and we were out of town). They trimmed the rotors on the car. While on the lift, I looked at the rotors and they had a weird discoloration over some of the rotor surface. I finally realized that someone had used spray wax to detail the wheels, and it sprayed thru the holes in the wheels onto the rotors, where it caused slick spots that, at the right speed, caused the pulsation. Just an idea.

... and this ladies and gentlemen is why I'm glad I got myself an 06 LBZ and not one of the new trucks (either of the big 3)- too many emissions controls, computer systems, DEF fluids and all that BS.

I'll be sticking ot my LBZ as long as I can, 99,000 miles on her (I've owned since 81K last June), been pretty much flawless- knock on wood! :D

... and this ladies and gentlemen is why I'm glad I got myself an 06 LBZ and not one of the new trucks (either of the big 3)- too many emissions controls, computer systems, DEF fluids and all that BS.

I'll be sticking ot my LBZ as long as I can, 99,000 miles on her (I've owned since 81K last June), been pretty much flawless- knock on wood! :D

You bumped this thread up to say that???