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: Gooseneck hitch point location?


bigriver
12-20-2010, 10:12 AM
I have purchased the Cody hitch for my 2008 GMC 2500HD CCSB and the bed of the truck has a cross member centered over the axle which I assumed to be the ideal location for the hitch. So the hitch is designed that it will either mount just in front of the crossmember or just behind the cross member.

Could someone with a 2008 or 2009 CC SHORT BED truck look and tell me were there hitch point is located regardless of the hitch brand?

I would prefer to mount infront of the cross member but I don't know much about gooseneck and/or fifth wheel clearance issues at the rear of the truck.

trailerpro
12-20-2010, 10:49 AM
44 1/4" from the back of the bed to the center of the ball is the B&W location. That is in front of that crossmember, but as close to it as they could keep it.

kcb37
12-20-2010, 01:22 PM
It should mount just a little infront of the rear axle.
This is one of the advantages of a gooseneck/5th wheel. It puts weight on the front of the truck too. This keeps the front tires on the road and allows you to steer while also taking a little weight fo the rear suspsension.
Mount it behind and you will start to get the effect of a heavy bumper pull trying to pull your front tires off the ground.

Premis
12-20-2010, 02:54 PM
Are you pulling an enclosed? If you put it in front of the cross member and pull an enclosed trailer you will hardly be able to turn at all. Even with it behind the crossmember you can only get about 60 degrees out of it

Pwdr Extreme
12-20-2010, 10:51 PM
I had a lengthy conversation with Cody Hitch, it makes very little difference whether the ball is mounted in front of or behind the rear axle. We just simply aren't carrying enough pin weight for it to really matter. Quite literally it will make less than 100lbs of difference on the front axle.

I have a B&W that is mounted 6" or so ahead of the rear axle (longbed truck, don't recall exact measurement) I scaled my empty truck on an independent axle Cat scale then hooked up the gooseneck weighing 20k+ carrying 4,500lb on the hitch, my front axle weight increased 60lbs.

Like stated earlier, if you are pulling an enclosed trailer of any kind, having the hitch behind the rear axle will certainly allow for better turning. If it was my truck, that's where I'd mount it.

To answer your question about clearance issues at the rear of the truck, you won't have any at all regardless where you mount the hitch, the clearance issues will be with your back window.

BTW, good choice on the Cody Hitch. :)

bigriver
12-21-2010, 03:10 PM
Problem #1

I am trying to install my cody hitch and having alot of trouble. The "no drill kit" side plates use (4)1/2" bolts and the existing holes in the frame are 15/16" x 1-1/2" slotted holes. They say nobody has ever questioned it or had any problems. The parts list calls out (3) 2" dia. x 1/4" thick washers provided for backing and yet there are 4 holes. (1) of the washers is supposed to be used to relocate the brake controller. Would like to see who installed this without having to buy some additional parts.

Not to mention installing 1/2" dia. bolts in a 15/16"x1-1/2" hole is very unsettling for me. I called and explained the situation that if the hitched slipped in the holes it would buckle the truck bed and that I would be drilling new holes in my "no drill kit" side plates. Problem #1 solved.

Problem #2

The hitch can be installed either in front or behind the crossmember via the holes in the side plates. Called to make sure "yes it can".
Upon trying to put the hitch in front of the crossmember noticed the hitch would not extend far enough to catch the side plate without unbolting the bed. Of course not; the frame gets wider at this point so the 3-1/2" offset does not work in front of the crossmember without shimming the truck bed up 1/4".

Does shimming the bed on $50k to make $400 dollar hitch work sound reasonable?

I think the hitch will install behind the crossmember without shimming the truck bed but I figure in front would be better.

bigriver
12-21-2010, 03:54 PM
Could a system adminstrator retitle this as "Cody Hitch"

Thanks

bigriver
12-21-2010, 04:07 PM
Oh forgot to mention this hitch will not work with just the standard "universal kit". The bolt holes in the side plates line up with the bumper stop bracket which puts the bolts hitting a piece of frame thats on an angle. All this is assuming you want the hitch as close to cetner of axle as possible.