I see all the pullers take the pressure off the front torsion bars and some even take the bolts out. Is there any reason that the bars need to remain in the truck if the truck is for pulling only, or are they in there to set the height of the front end?

your front end would sit on the ground without them they are needed

I have other means to keep the front end up, hence my question. Do they serve another purpose, or do they tie something else in I am unaware of

they are basicly the spring what they do is support the weight they serve the same purpose of the leaf spring in the rear just a different set up and they are adjustiable if you have some other way of supporting the weight of the front end i suppose you dont need the torsion bar

you might be able to let the truck run on the bump stops but id be concerned with the tires hitting the wheel well. or something binding up somewhere else

Bad idea unless you have a D60 under the front or another front end setup

Bad idea unless you have a D60 under the front or another front end setup

I have been old the same thing. Do you have any ideas as to why? Just looking for opinions as to why. That's why I think there is more to it than just it holding weight. Does it act like a traction bar and keep things from binding up more?

They do NOT act like a traction bar but take all the weight from the front end like a coil spring from another post. If you take them out and not do anything else the tires will be up into your inner fenders bad like not drivable bad. not worth it imho your not saving much wieght either

No there, there to only hold up the front end that's it and only it they are only held in by pressure and nothing else there not bolted to anything to give structure to any thing!! Hope that helps!!

Agree, as long as you put some type of spring or coil over shock in there you do not need the torsion bars in.

Thanks for the replys guys. I guess I need to make something clear. It is very obvious what the main job is and how they work, very obvious! Please make sure your reading my posts as I have said I have other means to keep the front end up, so the tires will not hit the fenders. Let cast aside the main reason they are there. Now, the torsion bar can keep that lower a arm from twisting/flexing in an up and down rotation. That's my thinking for traction bars. People seem to say it's a bad idea, even posted above. I would like opinions as to why. Has anyone pulled with a coil over kit on an ifs? It's stacking up to be a long winter and just thinking out side of the box

Any type of spring is going to Prevent it from rotating coil over air bag torsion bar. If you have other means to support the weight you don't need the torsionbar. I belive some of the 2wd ifs are coil springs if I'm not misitaken

That torsion bar is not helping to keep the a-arm from rotating. If they are moving around that much to where you are using it to keep them from rotating then you need different a-arms.

maybe i misread that i thought by rotating he meant the up and down motion of the arm as the suspension flexes

does anyone know someone that might of tried this? i maybe interested as i pull in a 6500lb class, but want to be a follower

I honestly think u would be creating more work than it would be worth I understand what your getting at and what your thinking

I honestly think u would be creating more work than it would be worth I understand what your getting at and what your thinking

actually, if you look, that would be one of the easiest things to remove, bars and cross member. or at least the things i have removed. my truck is now around 5500 with out weight and me in it. the more i can take off the better

Ask Mark Huckstorf how pulling the T bars worked out for him ..... FAIL !

Ask Mark Huckstorf how pulling the T bars worked out for him ..... FAIL !

pretty sure he limited the up travel on the front suspention, big difference.....um, yep...epic fail!

actually, if you look, that would be one of the easiest things to remove, bars and cross member. or at least the things i have removed. my truck is now around 5500 with out weight and me in it. the more i can take off the better

O ya getting the t bars off is very easy as long as the t bar keys comply!! It's only 4 bolts other wise! What I was saying is, by the time u remove the t bars, that are about 60 pounds each plus the cross member, for what a total of maybe 200 pounds all together, witch is alot, but by the time u go and put the time and money back into it to build some form of suspension back in front( that is going to weight atleast another 100 pounds) your going to do all that for less then 100 pound?, now I'm not saying don't try it! im saying is it worth it? im all for guys trying there ideas and new stuff that's how u learn what works and what docent and gain experience and knowlage

if your pulling with a diesel how are u getting into a class less than 8000k

O ya getting the t bars off is very easy as long as the t bar keys comply!! It's only 4 bolts other wise! What I was saying is, by the time u remove the t bars, that are about 60 pounds each plus the cross member, for what a total of maybe 200 pounds all together, witch is alot, but by the time u go and put the time and money back into it to build some form of suspension back in front( that is going to weight atleast another 100 pounds) your going to do all that for less then 100 pound?, now I'm not saying don't try it! im saying is it worth it? im all for guys trying there ideas and new stuff that's how u learn what works and what docent and gain experience and knowlage

if your pulling with a diesel how are u getting into a class less than 8000k

A coil over front set up with bump stops to keep the front end from dragging the ground would weigh way less than 100lbs. Not to mention if you could keep the front end from coming up you would gain a lot more than just loosing 200lbs. Theres a lot more to it than weight loss, thats just another benefit thats thrown in.

I have something simple and easy to keep front end from dragging on the ground. Why does the front need to be supported, whether from torsion bars or coilovers even if the front is already at normal factory ride height

The front would basically need something that will keep the front tires planted to the ground more or less. And will definitely need something to dampen the movement. With no dampening the front tires would be all over the place.

I have something simple and easy to keep front end from dragging on the ground. Why does the front need to be supported, whether from torsion bars or coilovers even if the front is already at normal factory ride height


The coilovers would be for holding it down, not allowing it to come up so high when pulling/racing. Whatever way you choose to keep it off the tires is up to you.

A coil over front set up with bump stops to keep the front end from dragging the ground would weigh way less than 100lbs. Not to mention if you could keep the front end from coming up you would gain a lot more than just loosing 200lbs. Theres a lot more to it than weight loss, thats just another benefit thats thrown in.


ic well what every u guys have in mind please post any results of what u do, i made limiting straps to control how much the front end came up on the truck and they seemed to work very well i have another idea too i want to try this year but well see how that turns out

I did try running last year without the torsions bars. It seemed like a logical idea because I have a six inch lift kit and I did not need them for tire clearance. I ran without torsion bar bolts, so why not get rid of all that extra weight? Well it turns out that the torsion bars work like a shock. The bars dampen the front end movement/bounce. My truck hopped around so I tried to limit the travel and that was worse. I put them back in and the truck pulled much better. The limiting straps do not work because when you pull the front end up and the straps tighten, the tires start to loose traction. When that happens the weight goes to the rear tires and they plant the front end back down. The truck looks like a yo yo going down the track and it is hard on parts. Trust me. ;)

I did try running last year without the torsions bars. It seemed like a logical idea because I have a six inch lift kit and I did not need them for tire clearance. I ran without torsion bar bolts, so why not get rid of all that extra weight? Well it turns out that the torsion bars work like a shock. The bars dampen the front end movement/bounce. My truck hopped around so I tried to limit the travel and that was worse. I put them back in and the truck pulled much better. The limiting straps do not work because when you pull the front end up and the straps tighten, the tires start to loose traction. When that happens the weight goes to the rear tires and they plant the front end back down. The truck looks like a yo yo going down the track and it is hard on parts. Trust me. ;)

I could see where it would do it with a standard shock, but a coil over would def help that.

stingpuller raced with qa1's on the front of his truck. torsion bars were MIA I don't think they would like hang weight though

My truck dont have torsion bars in it either....

I did try running last year without the torsions bars. It seemed like a logical idea because I have a six inch lift kit and I did not need them for tire clearance. I ran without torsion bar bolts, so why not get rid of all that extra weight? Well it turns out that the torsion bars work like a shock. The bars dampen the front end movement/bounce. My truck hopped around so I tried to limit the travel and that was worse. I put them back in and the truck pulled much better. The limiting straps do not work because when you pull the front end up and the straps tighten, the tires start to loose traction. When that happens the weight goes to the rear tires and they plant the front end back down. The truck looks like a yo yo going down the track and it is hard on parts. Trust me. ;)


really the limiting straps didnt work for u!! i pull more consistent with straps but i run t bars with no bolt and procomp 6 inch lift the truck felt more solid and it deff felt like it hooed alot better!! i dont know how your doing it tho, i set the truck up with the weight and everything, then i set my straps, i dont strap the front end down, if u do that u will hop, i just "limit" the amount of travel

My truck dont have torsion bars in it either....

you like or dislike?

Let you know in the spring Jeremy. Building it now. Only one leaf spring in the back too

pretty sure he limited the up travel on the front suspention, big difference.....um, yep...epic fail!
never mind seen mark posted lol

really the limiting straps didnt work for u!! i pull more consistent with straps but i run t bars with no bolt and procomp 6 inch lift the truck felt more solid and it deff felt like it hooed alot better!! i dont know how your doing it tho, i set the truck up with the weight and everything, then i set my straps, i dont strap the front end down, if u do that u will hop, i just "limit" the amount of travel

The benefit of limiting the front end travel up is that you are adding the weight of the tires and suspension parts that are moving into the weight of the engine and front of the truck. The problem is that if you get enough bite and have enough power to lift all of that weight you pull the weight off the front tires and they loose grip. By not limiting the front end travel you are allowing the tires to hang down and keep grip while the front is lifting. This is also why independent suspension is better than a solid axle because each tire is moving independently and finding the best grip possible.