I'm wondering if a duramax with the big ATS turbo would be competitive in the run what ya brung class pulling if you were to use that turbo and compound it with another larger turbo? Say around 80 to 100 lbs of boost. I assume that nobody knows if the motor will handle this but it would be worth a shot I think. I have my uncle very excited to help me on this venture. My uncle and my grandpa were hot rod tractor pullers when I was a kid and they were 2 and 3 in the nation for several years. They built all there own intakes and ran 3+ turbos compounded and nitrous and he has the knowledge to plumb this system. Whatcha guys think? Good idea or bad. Does anyone have the turbo map for the stock turbo and the ats 5000? I am just thinking outloud so dont flame me please.

Whats the worst thing that could happen...lol...I say DO IT!!!!

The stock turbo can be over spead from the extra boost. You will need something with a little better breathing exhaust housing to be able to spool the Aurora properly (second in line on the exhaust feed). There is still 2 other problems that I am working on now as far as exhaust and intake are concerned though. The motor will take it, but it will need some help (as all motors do in this range).

i realize the stocker can be overspead but I was thinking of the 5000 in the stockers place and a bigger than a 5000 compounded with the 5000.

I would take massive amounts of fuel to spool the set up (what we have available today I don't think would do it). There is a ideal mach for the setup your talking about. Spool time on the 5000 is slow right now even with the TTS Xtreme and some extras. I don't think we have it maxed it yet.

I would think that the extra fuel would be obtainable. How about bigger fuel rails and a serious pump. I bet there are places who would be interested in workin with ya in the fuel department (scheid, columbus diesel?). As far as programming goes, plenty of places can get you programming for the fuel and air as soon as you get it figured out. Its just gonna be a long trial and error process but anything is possible.

My CP3 upgrade already is keeping 100% over size injectors at 24,000+psi with ease.

I am sure there are bigger cp3 units to be had. If not somebody could make one.....I guess my point is...I am sure it can be done, with time and $$$$$.

Yea. 25Gs I will build one (much larger capacity). Then there are many other problems to be tackled at the same time. Not a hot selling item I predict.

Definitely not a hot seller!! But to compete with the hot dodge trucks it will be a must. When I hear rumors about how much $$ goes into the true modified trucks it makes me want to .....-:t Hopefully someday we will get to see a true pro stock dmax lay it down.....:ro) I want to see a dmax go against the likes of mitchell and scheid and come out on top....when and if it will ever happen...only time will tell.

I'm working on a test mod puller truck now. It's a dmax as well. Not a very stock motor though. It is getting ugly expensive. You have twice the price because there are 2 motors (and ever thing else) being built (one back up).

What is the deal with the upgraded pump.....anything we want to let out yet? Nothing on the site.....price?

The NLDP truck is running it as well as some others. Price? It is pretty much brain surgery on the heart of the truck. I get head aches ever time I do one. Some parts are easy, some are....... well, I have to rely on 20+ years of tool making experience to complete it. This thing is built like a nuclear reactor. Very tough. It is very simple yet very genius designed. I just increase the efficency and make it flow a more.

The NLDP truck is running it as well as some others. Price? It is pretty much brain surgery on the heart of the truck. I get head aches ever time I do one. Some parts are easy, some are....... well, I have to rely on 20+ years of tool making experience to complete it. This thing is built like a nuclear reactor. Very tough. It is very simple yet very genius designed. I just increase the efficency and make it flow a more.

Amen to that. She definetely flows more fuel :ro) :ro)

I'm working on a test mod puller truck now. It's a dmax as well. Not a very stock motor though. It is getting ugly expensive. You have twice the price because there are 2 motors (and ever thing else) being built (one back up).

Awesome.......prolly gonna be next year before it is unveiled??
:ro) :ro) :ro)

lb7 or lly based?

dpower, pumps are the same, just the regulator is different

dpower, pumps are the same, just the regulator is different

Can you put an upgraded cp3 on an lly? I have been tossin around lookin into this plus injectors. I guess what I am askin is ...is this a cost effective addition at this point for an lly? I am also seriously considering adding the co-pilot to my suncoast lvl3 to firm up shift points. Any thoughts?

Cost effective? Depends on your budget. Quick math says your looking at 3500.00 plus install for a CP3 and injectors and the required pumps/plumbing.

Co-pilot....goes back to cost effective. Is .1-.2 tenths worth 1150.00 plus install labor?

Well...I am kinda just playin at the drag strip since I have been trapped in the land of no truck pulls. I only made one this year which is better than last.Good news is I am outta here in May and am headin north once again. I want to set my truck up to drag the sled like my old cummins ( surprisingly I don't miss that truck). The truck will still need to be streetable but will not be my sole source of transport. I have to be carefull right now cause if the truck breaks I am screwed. No place to work on it and no other truck and trailer to drag it with. In a few months I will be lookin to make the next jump performance wise. I may be re-locating to the Michigan area.....maybe you got a few tricks up your sleeve for a ready and willing lly? I guess what I meant by cost effective is....are an upgraded cp3 and injectors plus a co-pilot an appropriate next step...or are there other areas that need to be addressed first?

My CP3 upgrade already is keeping 100% over size injectors at 24,000+psi with ease.

how is it possible to run injectors that big
does it smoke horrible at a idle
does the smoke even clean up with the turbo and drugs

i take it the twins are gone off your truck super diesel

There is already a LLY with the CP3 upgrade on it out there (yes, it made a difference). You will be seeing more of it soon. ecc 33, I never had twins on my truck. Not working units any way. Just mock up stuff.

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ok i gotcha what kind of boost are you getting out of your bigger turbo
does it still smoke like a frieght train or does it clean the smoke up

she smokes at idle!!