Drove an '06 Duramax Today

BOBC
08-04-2005, 03:40 PM
I was at my dealer for an oil change today and noticed he had two '06 2500 HD Crew Cab 4wd with Duramax and the new 6 speed Allison. One was a base truck and the other an LT2. I took the LT2 for a run around town and down the interstate.

Compared to my '05 3500 Crew Cab the '06 had lots more power at least in take off. For instance, holding the brake to 1500 RPM and flooring it when releasing the brake results in a lot of wheel spin on the '06. I don't even get a chirp when I do that with my '05. Of course, the 3500 may weigh somewhat more and the tires are larger on the 3500. Still seems the '06 has quite a bit more pep than my '05.

At a steady speed ot 70 on the interstate the '06 is turning 1800 RPM. My truck is at 2000 RPM at the same speed. I would think that would help in unloaded fuel economy.

Bob

MonkeyMuscles
08-04-2005, 04:07 PM
I'm not trying to start anything here but that bugs me. Brand new truck on the lot that will be someones truck someday and it was already brakelocked. I am hoping someone will have the truck I am looking for on a lot somewhere but then again after reading stuff like this it makes me think I should just order the truck and hope who ever is unloading the car carrier has some respect and doesn't do a quick burnout.

DSengineer
08-04-2005, 04:07 PM
All reports so far seem to indicate the 06 has more get up and go than the 05's. I don't think anyone however has been able to provide any explanation as to why that is. They are rated the same HP/TQ as the 05's and the only difference between the 5spd and 6spd is the additional overdrive gear. Thanks for the report.

jermstyle
08-04-2005, 04:29 PM
Brand new truck on the lot that will be someones truck someday and it was already brakelocked.

:badidea:

Scotty Seelen
08-04-2005, 04:31 PM
Has anyone bought a 2006 and tried the 1/4 mile with the g-tech yet?

jermstyle
08-04-2005, 04:34 PM
Just a thought… Has anyone checked the gear ratios in the new Allison and also in the rear? If they changed the gearing up a bit to compensate for the added over drive gear that would defiantly give it a little more ‘pep’ off the line.

I think five shifts is enough for me.. go 05’s!

BOBC
08-04-2005, 04:35 PM
I'm not trying to start anything here but that bugs me. Brand new truck on the lot that will be someones truck someday and it was already brakelocked. I am hoping someone will have the truck I am looking for on a lot somewhere but then again after reading stuff like this it makes me think I should just order the truck and hope who ever is unloading the car carrier has some respect and doesn't do a quick burnout.

I would in most cases agree with you and am not suggesting this as what the normal test drive should consist of. I am working on what I think is a performance problem in the '05 I have. Both the dealer and I have wanted to see how this would work out. The '04.5s seemed to perform like the '06 I drove today did. It seems to be the '05s that have somewhat decreased performance at least on take off.

Right now I think I paid for some horsepower and torque I didn't get in my '05.

Bob

DSengineer
08-04-2005, 05:19 PM
Just a thought… Has anyone checked the gear ratios in the new Allison and also in the rear? If they changed the gearing up a bit to compensate for the added over drive gear that would defiantly give it a little more ‘pep’ off the line.

I think five shifts is enough for me.. go 05’s!

According to all the GM press release info that I have read 1-5 gears are the same as the 5spd Allison. The 6spd only adds an additional overdrive. Rearend ratio is still 3.73 on the 06'. Therefore the 6spd tranny should have no advantage over the 5spd on takeoff or under acceleration.

BOBC
08-04-2005, 05:42 PM
According to all the GM press release info that I have read 1-5 gears are the same as the 5spd Allison. The 6spd only adds an additional overdrive. Rearend ratio is still 3.73 on the 06'. Therefore the 6spd tranny should have no advantage over the 5spd on takeoff or under acceleration.

I believe that is correct from what I have read. The extra gear is supposed to be another overdrive. Seems to work that way since at 70 MPH, the '06 was turning 200 RPM less than my '05. That may put the truck into a better engine speed for lightly loaded highway driving and show some improved fuel mileage. I doubt that I would often see 6 th gear pulling the loads I pull with my truck. I don't even see 5th gear all the time towing now.

Bob

DSengineer
08-04-2005, 06:10 PM
Did you have a chance to test out the new "manual mode" on 6spd If so how well does it work?

BOBC
08-04-2005, 06:31 PM
Did you have a chance to test out the new "manual mode" on 6spd If so how well does it work?

No, I did not try that out. Was sort of "on a mission" to compare the new truck to mine and forgot to check out that feature. I noticed that now there is only the tow haul mode without the overdrive off mode that my '05 has.

The dealer is really mad at GM over the '06 I drove. He had ordered it with almost every option available and it somehow came in with the standard mirrors.

Bob

RAPIDRYAN
08-04-2005, 06:32 PM
Manual Mode Is Pretty Neat,also The Low End Grunt Comes From The Redesigned Turbo Which Now Builds Boost A Whole Lot Sooner.the 06 At 75 Is Only Turning 1900rpms And With Steering Wheel Controls It Showed On A 100 Mile Road Trip Right Around 21.2 I Think Gm Did A Great Job.

beretzs
08-04-2005, 06:35 PM
How much of the RPM difference is because of the tire size difference between a duallies 215 tire size to a 2500 245 tire size. Must be an inch or two of difference. Not sure, still a newb studying the new trucks. Scotty

chevman
08-04-2005, 07:15 PM
Hard for me to believe this story after driving our 05 3500 duramax and the slow take off it had until 1600 miles. I almost was disappointed in the beginning but it runs great now. chevman

nct
08-08-2005, 01:24 AM
maybe u just got use to it?:muahaha:

chp777
08-08-2005, 02:37 AM
i have to agree with chevman mine was a dog when i got it but now it's getting better mpg and getting faster still not what i would think it should be i have the edge but haven't installed it yet i hope it is as good as i have been told the off the line sucks tho i have to figure out how to get more from a start

Wasted Income
08-08-2005, 12:38 PM
I'm not trying to start anything here but that bugs me. Brand new truck on the lot that will be someones truck someday and it was already brakelocked. I am hoping someone will have the truck I am looking for on a lot somewhere but then again after reading stuff like this it makes me think I should just order the truck and hope who ever is unloading the car carrier has some respect and doesn't do a quick burnout.

I agree! :exactly: :badidea:

When mine came off the hauler, the only other person than me to drive it was my brother (who's a tech at the dealer), who did the PDI and put on the 10 miles that the dealer requires before delivery.

Kurt W.
08-11-2005, 12:50 PM
The dually's come with 215's factory? WTF ! Guess there are not any 0-60 times out yet are there?

thefermanator
08-11-2005, 01:48 PM
If your worried about someone brake locking the vehicle before you get it you should be. I have a friend who is a mechanic for allied(major car hauler company) and he tells me stories all the time about driving new vehicles when they come off the train and get loaded onto the haulers. If your really worried about it wait for the new to wear off of the 06's, once a car has been out for a while they don't want to play with them anymore. As far as the tire's go the 215/85/16 is the same height as the 245/75/16, ther within 1/2 an inch of each other(measured it myself before on the same brand tires). And I am not certain as to this one or not but my uncle just bought a new 05 3500 with the 6.0 in it and when I drove it to Boston and back to Florida I noticed that when it hit 245 hours on the engine hour meter the truck instatntly gained more power and the milage went from 12.5 before to almost 15 after that point. I think GM is building in a break in period into the PCM to reduce the power early on to prevent people from doing brakelocks:eek: and such on new engines.

Montana Mike
08-11-2005, 05:45 PM
All reports so far seem to indicate the 06 has more get up and go than the 05's. I don't think anyone however has been able to provide any explanation as to why that is. They are rated the same HP/TQ as the 05's and the only difference between the 5spd and 6spd is the additional overdrive gear. Thanks for the report.

The reason 06's have more get up and go than the 05's with same HP/TQ is, the 05's are detuned in first and fith gears so the 5spd can handle the TQ. The new 6spd is improved and can handle the HP/TQ.;)

Kurt W.
08-11-2005, 06:05 PM
All reports so far seem to indicate the 06 has more get up and go than the 05's. I don't think anyone however has been able to provide any explanation as to why that is. They are rated the same HP/TQ as the 05's and the only difference between the 5spd and 6spd is the additional overdrive gear. Thanks for the report.

Who ever said they were the same, the 06's have much more HP/TQ.

DSengineer
08-11-2005, 06:28 PM
Who ever said they were the same, the 06's have much more HP/TQ.

I suggest you read through some of the GM press releases listed in some of the other posts. If you had you would know that early 06's are still LLY motors with the same ratings (310HP/605TQ). The new LBZ motor with higher figures (360HP/650TQ) that I assume you are referring to are not being produced until 4th quarter of 05 (October).

Someone (can't remember who) pointed out that the revised LLY for 06 has a new turbo that spools up faster. THis is what most likely is attributed to the reports of the 06's having more get up and go. Yes the 6-speed has higher ratings but I don't think anyone has confirmed that torque management has been removed from 1st gear but I could be wrong.

Kurt W.
08-11-2005, 06:42 PM
Soooooorry! I assumed he was talking about the LBZ. This is in the LBZ section. :confused:

funtoy
08-13-2005, 05:13 PM
Drove a 2006 today,have read all I can find on them.Still can not say where or why but it is a much stronger then my 2005 bought 4 Sept. 2004.

Like the 6 speed Allison
Like the new Grey
Like the price about $3000.00 sticker less than 2005
Wife wants new Airstream Trailer,so will go look at them.
Told her it sure would look good behind that grey truck.

RICKYY
08-13-2005, 07:33 PM
Wonder when we will start seeing some 06's out here in SoCal?:(

redeagle313
08-13-2005, 08:20 PM
Drove a 2006 today,have read all I can find on them.Still can not say where or why but it is a much stronger then my 2005 bought 4 Sept. 2004.

Like the 6 speed Allison
Like the new Grey
Like the price about $3000.00 sticker less than 2005
Wife wants new Airstream Trailer,so will go look at them.
Told her it sure would look good behind that grey truck.

Hey, I could not agree with you more! I am thinking '06 too, steel gray or silver birch. And our charcoal gray '05 does look good hitched to our Airstream.

TxDoc
08-13-2005, 10:43 PM
Wonder why they show the LLY as "on hold until further notice"??
Stealth Gray is on hold, also.

2006 GM (USA) Truck Production Start Up Dates:

GMC
GMC Sierra 1500 Pickups 6/27/05
GMC Sierra 2500/3500 Reg/Ext 8/1/05
GMC Sierra 2500/3500 Crew 7/17/05

Chevrolet
hevrolet Silverado 1500 Pickups 6/27/05
Chevrolet Silverado 2500/3500 Reg/Ext 8/1/05
Chevrolet Silverado 2500/3500 Crew 7/17/05

Lead Times and Production Holds:

Sierra 2500 6 - 8 Engine, 6.6L V8 diesel (LLY) is on hold until further notice.
Emissions, CFF, LEV (VCL) is on hold until further notice.
Steel gray met (16U) is on hold until further notice.
Stealth gray met (46U) is on hold until further notice.
Sierra 3500 6 - 8 Steel gray met (16U) is on hold until further notice.
Stealth gray met (46U) is on hold until further notice.
Engine, 6.6L V8 diesel (LLY) is on hold until further notice.
Emissions, CFF, LEV (VCL) is on hold until further notice.
--------------------------------
Silverado 2500 6 - 8 Graystone met (16U) is on hold until further notice.
Alternative fuel, conversion pkg. (KL5) is on hold until further notice.
Snow plow prep package (VYU) is on hold until further notice.
Vortec Max performance package (NHT) is on hold until further notice.
Blue granite met (46U) is on hold until further notice.
Hybrid propulsion - electric, parallel (HP2) is on hold until further notice.
Engine, 6.6L V8 diesel (LLY) is on hold until further notice.
Silverado 3500 6 - 8 Graystone met (16U) is on hold until further notice.
Blue granite met (46U) is on hold until further notice.
Alternative fuel, conversion pkg. (KL5) is on hold until further notice.
Engine, 6.6L V8 diesel (LLY) is on hold until further notice.

SilveradoHD
08-14-2005, 03:21 AM
My new '06 sport red Sierra 2500hd was mfd date 7/2005 so it must have been an early production run...

BTW, gmfleet.com shows that Chevy granite-blue and GMC stealth blue are NOT available in crew cab. Beige and green are also not available in crew cab.

As for fender flares on a crew cab, ONLY white, silver, graystone/steel gray will have painted wheel flares. All other crew cab colors have black wheel flares. If your equipment group is "work truck" then ALL colors get black wheel flares.

-Stuart

dmaxlover
08-14-2005, 10:45 AM
According to Truck Trend, the horsepower and torque is 360/610

PFlorenzano
08-22-2005, 03:59 PM
Brand new truck on the lot that will be someones truck someday and it was already brakelocked.

That is the one in many reasons why I'm special ordering my truck, not to mention you get the exact options that you want for the money that your are spending.

BlueOx03
08-22-2005, 08:57 PM
That is the one in many reasons why I'm special ordering my truck, not to mention you get the exact options that you want for the money that your are spending.

If a little brake lock scares you, don't buy one at all. Ever heard of shake down testing? They take these rigs and run the $hit out of them before they leave the factory.

I don't know why you guys make such a big deal out of it, if you're ever bought a car or truck, new or used, chances are someone's ran the $hit out of it, maybe even wrecked it...

ski1
08-22-2005, 10:30 PM
ox, not true man. the preproduction or test vehicles early in the run get this, customer vehicles do not, unless after delivery to the dealership.

darrentpi
08-22-2005, 11:23 PM
I'm not trying to start anything here but that bugs me. Brand new truck on the lot that will be someones truck someday and it was already brakelocked. I am hoping someone will have the truck I am looking for on a lot somewhere but then again after reading stuff like this it makes me think I should just order the truck and hope who ever is unloading the car carrier has some respect and doesn't do a quick burnout.I agree, bugs me as well. That is why I( never buy used!

hd90rider
08-23-2005, 03:20 AM
not even a LBZ !!!

epitaph
08-23-2005, 05:05 PM
not even a LBZ !!!
:iagree:

congrats on the truck tho

RichLockyer
08-24-2005, 02:49 AM
Wonder when we will start seeing some 06's out here in SoCal?:(
I just bought one Saturday.

Now I'm curious, but I'm pretty sure I have the LLY as I remember seeing 310hp on the paperwork. Gonna have to check the engine code.

Edit: Okay... got the window sticker and all it says is 310/605.
Is there a build date coded into the VIN?

Scotty Seelen
08-24-2005, 07:35 AM
The LBZ isn't going to show up in the 2006's until around the first of the year.

MonkeyMuscles
08-24-2005, 09:51 AM
The LBZ isn't going to show up in the 2006's until around the first of the year.All the write ups say the fourth quarter which will start October so I'm sure we will see the LBZ before the first of the year.

redeagle313
08-24-2005, 06:50 PM
Very late September or early October is a good bet for the LBZ's to start showing up on dealer lots.

DuramaxKid
08-24-2005, 11:05 PM
If you order your trucks you don't have to worry about this lil problem.

DuramaxKid
08-24-2005, 11:13 PM
I also drove a 06 crew cab the other day and I could tell alot of differance on take off and the new tap shift on the gear lever is cool. Plan on ordering mine next month. Does anyone like the 2 new colors?

so_clean_HD
08-30-2005, 10:45 PM
you guys drive TRUCKS.. you wanna drag race buy a corvette like me!
its a truck made for towing and long trips. if you wanna fast 1/4 mile buy a sports car.
trucks are made for off road not to be drag raced..

Kurt W.
08-30-2005, 11:19 PM
you guys drive TRUCKS.. you wanna drag race buy a corvette like me!
its a truck made for towing and long trips. if you wanna fast 1/4 mile buy a sports car.
trucks are made for off road not to be drag raced..

Not todays trucks buddy, times have changed !:ro) :grd:

kazuaki
08-30-2005, 11:27 PM
you guys drive TRUCKS.. you wanna drag race buy a corvette like me!
its a truck made for towing and long trips. if you wanna fast 1/4 mile buy a sports car.
trucks are made for off road not to be drag raced..

Ummm...and Corvettes are made to be drag raced? :rolleyes:

RichLockyer
08-30-2005, 11:58 PM
Ummm...and Corvettes are made to be drag raced? :rolleyes:
I thought they were made to be looked at and putted around downtown by middle aged balding guys.


Waitaminnit..... that's me :lol:

Wasted Income
08-31-2005, 01:12 PM
you guys drive TRUCKS.. you wanna drag race buy a corvette like me!
its a truck made for towing and long trips. if you wanna fast 1/4 mile buy a sports car.
trucks are made for off road not to be drag raced..

Baaaaahahaa, tell that to some of the guys here who are running 10s, 11s and 12s, and still daily driving, towing, and plowing with their trucks.

so_clean_HD
08-31-2005, 08:34 PM
Baaaaahahaa, tell that to some of the guys here who are running 10s, 11s and 12s, and still daily driving, towing, and plowing with their trucks.

show me these trucks?? never seen that..
im just sayin people act like they dont drive trucks.. i love my LLY but i know what it was made for. its gonna be lifted and look clean not raced.
show me a truck that run 10s and is still used for towing and daily driven and ill shut up. until then it still a truck not a race car.

tdoggnasty
08-31-2005, 10:00 PM
Check out the 12 second crew video here. I am sure they would be happy to have you bring your vette out to the track.


www.bmdmax.com/download.html

nwpadmax
08-31-2005, 10:24 PM
show me these trucks?? never seen that..
im just sayin people act like they dont drive trucks.. i love my LLY but i know what it was made for. its gonna be lifted and look clean not raced.
show me a truck that run 10s and is still used for towing and daily driven and ill shut up. until then it still a truck not a race car.

OK, it's not a race car, but it is a race truck. :rolleyes:

Spend some time over in the drag racing section before speaking any more blasphemy ):h

TheBac
08-31-2005, 10:47 PM
Noobs......:rolleyes: How little that man really knows.....

I can think of 4 trucks right now that run in the 11's...

How many do you want in the 12's? I think there are about 12 of those.....

Heck, with a decent programmer and exhaust, you could get in the 13's

so_clean_HD
09-01-2005, 01:02 AM
so how many is that in 10's??? :exactly:
i belive high 11-12 but not in a daily driven truck..
im not tryin to be an ass.. im just sayin its a truck.. seem like there are to many people here that are only into making their truck fast.. when there are way more useful things the truck was made for.
my point is you want a fast vehicle buy a sports car. we have trucks not sports cars.. i like fast trucks but thats not why i bought my LLY.

so_clean_HD
09-01-2005, 01:04 AM
your link doesnt work.

SilveradoHD
09-01-2005, 03:18 AM
show me these trucks?? never seen that..
im just sayin people act like they dont drive trucks.. i love my LLY but i know what it was made for. its gonna be lifted and look clean not raced.
show me a truck that run 10s and is still used for towing and daily driven and ill shut up. until then it still a truck not a race car.

So you will only be impressed if someone has a daily driver diesel
that can beat a $1,300,000 McLauren F1 LM? Because we are
actually talking about some trucks that could beat a lesser car,
like a stock Ferrari F40 supercar. (The F40 can't run 10's either...)

Here's a list of reality, a 2500HD running 13's is faster than 95% of
everything on the road!

http://www.pr.streetracing.org/whats_new.html

Scotty Seelen
09-01-2005, 08:02 AM
Race truck, work truck, who cares what you do with it? I have yet to tow or haul anything with mine, yet.

TheBac
09-01-2005, 11:01 AM
so how many is that in 10's??? :exactly:
i belive high 11-12 but not in a daily driven truck..
im not tryin to be an ass.. im just sayin its a truck.. seem like there are to many people here that are only into making their truck fast.. when there are way more useful things the truck was made for.
my point is you want a fast vehicle buy a sports car. we have trucks not sports cars.. i like fast trucks but thats not why i bought my LLY.

Talk about getting off on the wrong foot. You actually took the time to join a DMax enthusiast's website just to mock how your fellow DMax'ers enjoy their trucks? Wow. :badidea: Guess you should send a letter to the Craftman Truck Series, Baja Racing and the DHRA saying you don't approve of what they are doing, eh? Ya know, since those trucks aren't towing....:rolleyes:

You bought your truck for your purposes, they theirs. Don't come here and then start ripping the guys that go fast. Are they ripping you for pulling 20K? Hell no!

Why spend another huge chunk of $$ on a sports car when you can have both in your truck? AND have more fun watching other people's looks when the truck does something it's "not expected to do"!!!!

As for the 10's...I think, but am not sure, that the NDLP truck went high 10's. IIRC, it is still streetable. Are you now going to say "What about 9's?" :rolleyes: Any vehicle running less than 12.5's is hard to beat on the street, but where is the fun in stopping there? Pushing the envelope is where innovation is at.

You want a perfect example of a race/tow truck? Ask McRat and Kat. They tow their 10 sec Vette to the track, then RACE the truck!

You're still living in the '60s, when a truck was ONLY a truck. These new trucks have the capability to be both.

BTW, My truck worked hard and hauled trailers around in its previous life. It now carries my family. Are you going to find fault in that now?

:rant: over.

nwpadmax
09-02-2005, 12:23 AM
so how many is that in 10's??? :exactly:
i belive high 11-12 but not in a daily driven truck..
im not tryin to be an ass.. im just sayin its a truck.. seem like there are to many people here that are only into making their truck fast.. when there are way more useful things the truck was made for.
my point is you want a fast vehicle buy a sports car. we have trucks not sports cars.. i like fast trucks but thats not why i bought my LLY.

The point is, we're here to make power, whether that means flying down the drag strip, pulling a weight transfer sled, or whatever.

If you have a stock truck and you want to keep it that way, fine. I'll enjoy seeing you in my rearview mirror ):h

Maybe we should start a new section for the bone-stock crowd. The posts would probably be something like:

- put fuel in 'er today
- towed a trailer today
- towed a trailer today and lived to tell about it
- I changed my oil!
- It started on the first try
- washed 'er today

:D

1BADDMAX
09-02-2005, 05:16 PM
I drove one today also!! Pretty impressive. The manual mode is nice. I would definitely use it all the time.

Kennedy
09-03-2005, 09:58 AM
Did you have a chance to test out the new "manual mode" on 6spd If so how well does it work?

In my limited experience with the 06, I found the manual mode to be neat, but lacking. It will NOT force an upshift in my experience. Near as I can tell it is merely a "top gear selector" that can force a downshift (if it is within RPM range like clicking the makual selector down on the older vehicles. The top gear available gets "bracketed" 6 (5) 4 3 2 1 but you have no idea what gear you are actually in. It would be SO simple to alter this to use underscore and bracket or change light intensity and indicate what gear you are really in...


Oh yeah, when the fan clutch kicks in it sounds like you will REALLY know it. I did not get it kicked in, but it "came up" with the engine speed when cold and it definitely made some noise before it pumped out. I may be missing something, but I could not locate any wires to the clutch. I saw windows in the pulley, but no visible wires...

Slick
09-03-2005, 11:32 AM
Brief :offtopic: post, but I think its warranted.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31152&highlight=finally

Poor, Poor, Vettes. Didn't know what hit em.:muahaha:


Back to the '06s...

Brockway
09-05-2005, 09:59 AM
Sounds like a hurricane when the fan clutch kicks in.

Kennedy
09-05-2005, 10:13 AM
Check out the 12 second crew video here. I am sure they would be happy to have you bring your vette out to the track.


www.bmdax.com/download.html (http://www.bmdax.com/download.html)

That's www.bmdmax.com/download.html (http://www.bmdmax.com/download.html)

Anyhow, Bosch computer and all visible changes have been applied so it is going to run different. 15-20HP stronger from what I hear basically part way there. I consider it an lbz that will grow to be a LBZ mid model year. Few people know what the real differences (aside from tuning) really are.

As for the tap shift, it's neat, but gimmicky. It brackets the highest available gear, but does not indicate where you are. Basically from waht I can tell it is a manual downshifter/top gear selector. It appears to have no ability to force an upshift, but I have had very limited drive time.

No I did not do a burnout/powerbrake. I did that with a 2002 truck a couple times and the junk tires melted....:eek:

Brockway
09-05-2005, 10:18 AM
As for the tap shift, it's neat, but gimmicky. It brackets the highest available gear, but does not indicate where you are. Basically from waht I can tell it is a manual downshifter/top gear selector. It appears to have no ability to force an upshift, but I have had very limited drive time.

That's exactly right. It won't force an upshift and it also won't prevent a downshift if you floor it.

DURAtotheMAX
09-05-2005, 11:16 AM
So it wont upshift on command???? Whats the point of it then??:mad: In that case I guess my 2005 has the "tap-shift" feature as well!! Except instead of fancy +/- buttons I just move the gear shifter up and down...:rolleyes:

---Ben

RichLockyer
09-05-2005, 02:50 PM
So it wont upshift on command???? Whats the point of it then??:mad: In that case I guess my 2005 has the "tap-shift" feature as well!!
It will still prevent an upshift, but unlike the '05 (AFAIK), you can select any of the 6 gears as the upper limit. The selector has three positions... L, M, and D plus the tow-haul button.

DURAtotheMAX
09-05-2005, 06:42 PM
but thats what the 3,2,1 also does on the non tap-shift trucks right? Whatever number its in, it will shift thru all the gears and hold at whatever gear the selector is in until it hits the rev limiter. I can select any of the 5 gears as the upper limit on mine.
for limiting to first gear, put it in 1. for limiting to 2nd gear, put it in 2. For 3rd gear, put it in 3, for 4th gear, put it in "D" and hold the T/H button to lockout overdrive (in other words, limit it to 4th gear). And finally to go thru all the gears normally, leave it in D obviously. The tap-shift thing is really cool, dont get me wrong, but I think I would be more impressed with it if you could command an UPshift at anytime, like a true manu-matic. Obviously manu-matics wont allow you grab 5th gear at 20 mph and "lug" the vehicle, but on almost all of the manu-matics that I have used, they allow you to shift to the next higher gear at a large range of speed and RPM...

---Ben

RichLockyer
09-05-2005, 07:06 PM
From what I've felt of this '06, I can't ever imagine wanting to force it to shift sooner. I'm barely moving when I get the 1-2 shift. I really can't feel it, so I don't know exactly where the shift points are... I've concentrated to find that 1-2 is well under 10mph, and engine speed for moderately conservative around town driving never exceeds 2000.
75mph over the grapevine (6-7% grade) and it never dropped out of 6th.

The only problem with doing it "the old way" is that is is easy to miss a shift due to the way the shifter detent mechanism is set up. No, you're probably not going to overshoot and hit reverse, but it is very easy to go one higher than intended, or into neutral... neutral is the bottom step, and you have to pull the shifter to get out of it in either direction.

wkayl
09-05-2005, 09:33 PM
I drove an 06 D-Max today. :cool2: I have never driven or even ridden in one. As a matter of fact, this was the 1st time I have even stood beside one that was running. All I can say is "wow" they are quiet (my brother has a 2001 Dodge Cummings). Now the question is when next spring rolls around, do I order or buy off the lot? I kind of like the crew cab, but wife likes the looks of ext-cab better (it’s her truck to drive to work). Do I sell my truck outright or trade in (2001 Silverado 1500 with over 100,000 miles)? I know I will get better deal if I sell outright. I think I just may order and put mine up for sale and if it doesn't sell let them have it. As you can see from the picture, I need "more power".
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/409970/campersetup2.gif

Wasted Income
09-06-2005, 12:58 PM
show me these trucks?? never seen that..
im just sayin people act like they dont drive trucks.. i love my LLY but i know what it was made for. its gonna be lifted and look clean not raced.
show me a truck that run 10s and is still used for towing and daily driven and ill shut up. until then it still a truck not a race car.

Sorry to get off topic again boys...

I'm 90% sure that someone here was in the 10s with their Dmax.

I DO know for fact that Ratlover is in the 11s with his daily driven Dmax, and he plows snow with it in the winter...

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42594