O.K. I would like to know how much diesel is where you are at. I am apauled at the price of fuel here. For the last 2-3 months its been at $2.49 per gal. And as of yesterday its jumped to $2.69 per gal. Here in Southern AZ.

Tell me how much it is where you are So I can quit crying or get more pissed.

:rant:

Here in norway it is just under 2$ a litre (0.26gal)

edit: Make that 1.7$ a litre or 6.54$ a gallon

Here in minnesota diesel is $2.34 and gas is $2.24. Why is diesel more than gas I thought diesel took less refining.

here in Alberta :
Diesel - depending on the station 75 to 85 cents CAD a litre thats $2.45 US a gallon
Premium 92 octane $2.91 US a gallon down from $3.22 US a month ago
Diesel still beats gas by far

In Western Oregon, about $2.62-2.70/gallon. Yikes.

Chicago, 2.60 a gallon

I saw $2.89 yesterday here in Long Island. It was more than premium gas. But there is a large fluctuation in diesel prices from station to station here, which doesn't make any sense. I've also seen $2.69 near me, same brand, different location.

I filled up for $2.22 a gal on the highway today, gas is .20-.30 less. Fryer grease? still free.

Vancouver prices.... Diesel .92 liter = approx $2.76 USD per US gallon
Reg gas 1.04 liter = approx $3.12 USD per US gallon
Yikes.......................

$0.97 per liter here. Where is it going to end?!

I had been paying $2.17 in Muskogee, OK for some time, but 2 nights ago all fuel jumped .10 across the board. I bought this truck a year ago and replaced my 350 with this 6.5 cause diesel was so much cheaper and a month later, diesel jumped .30 overnight and gas didn't go up!!!! Now I kinda wish I still had "ole faithful" back cause it got the same gas mileage as this diesel gets. I think gas around here is 2.19, but I don't pay much attention to it anymore.

Heck, as many soybeans as we grow each year, I wish I could find a cheap way to turn them into biodiesel. Several thousand dollars just to set up a contraption thingy to make it from what I hear.

My heart bleeds for you. I filled up at the truck stop yesterday at $2.69/Gal and this morning it's $3.01!!! Censored

I just bought a brand new horse trailer a couple of months ago to pull my horses around with, but at this point I think I am going to take them out of the trailer, tie on a rope, and pull the truck and trailer with the horses!!!! At least that will be cheaper seeing that I have a nearly unlimited supply of hay.

Just gotta figure out how to get air conditioning on the horse....hmmmmm.

Milwaukee, WI

2.69 /gal

Jumped 15 cents on Wed.

Seriously though, I also thought it was supposed to be cheaper in the summer, and more expensive in the winter in proportion to reg gas.

On July 26th it was $2.63 a gallon in Long Beach, WA

The local retail biodiesel pump has remained steady at $3.10/gallon for the last 4 months. I pumped a couple of tankfuls through the Tahoe - it ran quite well. At this rate, it may soon be less expensive. They are also putting in a refinery in Portland, so it is possible the supply may increase.

Sincerely,

Rob :)

Yesterday in Crescent City, CA...$2.79 pg. -:t

I Havent checked today yet. It has been that for months here. Even when gasoline dropped, diesel remained at $2.79. I'm just glad that the diesel gets better gas mileage than my Jeep, or it would not make sense to keep it. :rolleyes:

So I make it a point to go to Brookings, OR (18 miles north of here) for one thing or another, and get it for $2.64 pg.

O.K. I feel a little better. It still sucks though. Its a major bummer when you invest all the time and money into your diesel and only to have the bummer of high fuel prices slap you in the face. I remember when diesel was $.75 a gal. and that wasnt very long ago. Something has to change....

http://www.frybrid.com/sub.htm

Photos of a 6.5TD Suburban with conversion system. It doesn't look like a '96 to me, though. It it likely a '94. What do you guys think?

Sincerely,

Rob :)

It's about US$ 5.35/gal here; gas is about 5.86/gal. SVO is 3.28/gal.

It's true that we are on the way back to horse and cart. I would run quite a couple of horses to death each day when cummuting, so I don't think it's cheaper yet, even with unlimited supplies of hay. But maybe they'll come up with genetically engineered horses that can sustain the usual average speed of 60kph soon enough.

Hm, I should register a patent on the idea ...

In Vermont it is pretty steady at $2.49/gal. Have seen it over $2.50 once in a while.

http://www.frybrid.com/sub.htm

Photos of a 6.5TD Suburban with conversion system. It doesn't look like a '96 to me, though. It it likely a '94. What do you guys think?

Sincerely,

Rob :)


Would this system be justifiable for short term driving? Say, like 8 miles one way. Or would this system be more for long trips.
I am seriously contemplating this because I am so fedup with fuel prices.....we have to look at the fact that maybe the fuel prices arent going back down.

It depends on how many miles you drive a year and on how much you could save. Going with SVO/WVO can result in having to do expensive repairs, and a conversion like the one on frybrid.com (they did a great job there, it seems) may cost you something between $500 and $1200, I'd guess.

You can have it for less, put the parts needed add up quickly. I'm doing about 630 miles per week, almost all of it cummuting, and I still don't use SVO because of the risks involved, though Diesel costs me about twice of what you pay.

With 8 miles only, the engine doesn't even get fully warm.


EDIT: I've just seen their prices, $1745 for a Suburban kit, hm. Some parts seem worth the money, but 120--200 for a heat exchanger is ridiculous.

$2.47 for Diesel, $2.21 for Reg. Boise ID

Northern California it just jumped today from $2.63 to $2.79/gallon. Last weekend it was $2.55/gallon. :rant:

Eastern Indiana, Richmond right on I 70 $2.23/gal, on into town for Bio-diesel (2%) $2.43/gal. Regular unleaded 2.17 to 2.30 depending on station...

$0.88 per liter here in Manitoba

$0.82 liter the last time i was home......... ALMOST 4 WEEKS AGO!!!

Not that i am bragging, but i saw 3.00 gal in so cal. I just heard the evening news explain the high diesel prices in cal are due to a refining plant stopping production in El Segundo (so cal). of course they did not say why it stopped....duuuuh. so they can charge more.....BIODIESEL is looking better...

$2.49 2 days ago in southern N.H. Mass. is about the same.
Mr. Lawnboy, you can make bio cheaper than you think but it takes a lot of researching what is written about it and you have to be careful with the chemicals. Quantum Mechanic and myself (and others I'm sure) have been blending in WVO with some success. I'll bet you can get away with some soy blending or wait and see how bad QM and I screw our trucks up:muahaha:

Yesterday - 2.49 - tommorrow . . . $2.80, do I here 2.82 - 2.82 do I here 2.90 - sold! to the sucker that wants to keep driving. . . . I gotta get some time for my conversion . . . You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Chinesse resturant in this town.

$2.25 this morning in Pasadena, TX South-east of Houston.

I might just think about yanking the diesel outa there and installing a nuclear reactor under the hood seeing that 1 rod would probably power that small of motor for like......7 years!!!!!

Oh Oh, I just realized I called Mr farmboy Mr Lawnboy by mistake. I apologize, especially because Mr Lawnboy doesn't like 6.5l GM diesels:mad:

HAHAHA....psst: just don't let it happen again!!!!!! J/K
mr lawnboy's loss is our gain....he might pass away a good 6.5 that someone is giving away and that is less competition for us to get ahold of it
I like these engines, just wish they didn't take so much modifying and money to make them pull like the "others"
makes it hard to convince the "higher power" in the house to spend money on a perfectly good running truck

Well, I drove by the stations in town today and I see that Diesel #2 has risen to prices between $2.99-$3.14 pg. :eek: Censored

I just filled up my Wrangler for $2.69 pg. of Regular Unleaded. I, along with many others, thought that diesel cost less to refine. Diesel prices are going through the roof here, while gas is staying relatively the same. Could it be that so many drivers have switched from gassers to diesels, and we had that much of an impact on the fuel market? I know in this area of Nor-Cal that hardly anyone ever buys a gasser pickup anymore. The only ones I see buying gassers are kids and younger folks that can't afford the additional 5+K for the diesel upgrade in their trucks.

2.22 gal, exit 1 on I-95 in GA. Cheapest I've seen, I filled her to the brim.

That settles it!!!!! I'm moving to Georgia:muahaha:

Chevron in Henderson, Nevada (trip from Reno to Vegas) $3.21/gal.. I didn't have a digital camera to take a proof pic but I am glad I filled up in Tonopah at $2.67

Chevron in Henderson, Nevada (trip from Reno to Vegas) $3.21/gal.. I didn't have a digital camera to take a proof pic but I am glad I filled up in Tonopah at $2.67
NFW!!!! you're kidding-:t -:t

Nosir.. I wish I was... Here in Reno it's $3.01.. I am putting the Copsycle back on the road TOMORROW. Not a Gixxer but a KZ-1000P is not to chabby either!

Not a Gixxer but a KZ-1000P is not to chabby either!
Always liked the kawis myself. Dad has a 1000J that has been in the garage for 10 years. What a waste:(

Great Falls, MT

#2 $2.51.9 -$2.60
Unleaded 85.5 octane $2.30
88 Octane $2.40+
:sheephump

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/07/AR2005080700888_pf.html


washingtonpost.com
Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes
By Michael D. Tusiani
Monday, August 8, 2005; A15

Automakers are eager to sell you a diesel-powered vehicle. One of their responses to the rising price of gasoline has been to tell American motorists they can keep their large, powerful vehicles and at the same time save on fuel by buying a car or truck that burns diesel instead of gasoline. The new energy bill establishes a tax credit as large as $3,400 for diesels, matching the break allowed for hybrids.
Diesel-fueled vehicles do afford somewhat better mileage and may not require as much maintenance as gasoline-burners. But now and for years to come, the U.S. refining industry simply cannot produce enough diesel fuel to accommodate a significant increase in the number of vehicles that burn it.
At this year's auto show in New York, a DaimlerChrysler executive responsible for research and technology cited the success of diesel-engine automobiles in Europe while suggesting that these vehicles could gain a 5 to 10 percent share of the U.S. market. He made those comments at the introduction of a Mercedes-Benz station wagon scheduled to land in America in 2006. He did not mention, however, that because of the popularity of diesel-powered autos, diesel oil prices in Europe are soaring as demand pushes past the amount refiners can make.
European governments, working with automakers, have persuaded their citizens to replace gasoline-powered cars with diesel. They set tax rates to render diesel fuel cheaper than gasoline. But oil companies had no reason to invest in additional equipment for diesel production. Demand for diesel therefore bumps against the limit of supply. The marketplace will remedy such a situation, but it will be slow (because building new refining equipment takes time) and painful (because high-cost fuel hurts the financially weak the most).
Refineries can be equipped to make either a high yield of diesel or a high yield of gasoline, but not both. European refiners built their equipment before governments started manipulating the fuel market. To date, they have declined to scrap money-making gasoline production units worth many billions of dollars and replace them with even more expensive diesel hardware. But the market flirts with inducing such reinvestment. On a pretax basis, diesel has become much more expensive than gasoline in Europe. In five years European refineries may complete the construction of equipment to significantly increase diesel oil output. But in the meantime, Europe will have to import ever larger quantities of diesel -- that is, if it can find supply. Europe has raised its diesel quality standards to such a high level that very few refineries in other parts of the world can manufacture an acceptable product. Interestingly, the United States can. During a few months last winter, U.S. refiners quietly shipped diesel to Europe. Due to our own demand, that could not continue.
These exports undoubtedly raised U.S. prices while they lasted. In this country, we burn diesel mostly for commercial transportation. As our economy expands, we will need more fuel for trucks and locomotives to transport goods. In 2004 trucks and other diesel-burning vehicles required about 150,000 barrels per day more than in 2003 -- a one-year increase of almost 5 percent. If America continues to prosper, this commercial use of diesel will keep growing. Like their European counterparts, U.S. refiners have not seen any reason to invest in greater diesel production. In fact, they have a strong disincentive to build diesel-making equipment: Unless refiners can increase crude oil processing capacity, which seems unlikely, making more diesel will reduce gasoline production. Furthermore, they have gasoline production hardware that has only recently started to make solid profits for them as the price of gasoline rises.
For diesel-powered autos and light trucks to achieve a market share of 5 to 10 percent, American motorists must be compelled to buy 800,000 to 1.7 million of them per year. We do not have the spare diesel production capacity to cope with the additional demand that would produce, and we will not have it for quite some time.
Give U.S. refiners about 10 years and they might significantly increase diesel production capacity. It would take about that long to plan new projects and run the regulatory and litigation gantlet. Until then, a motorist buying one will have to compete for expensive diesel fuel in an increasingly tight market. In the meantime, diesels do not increase American motorists' practical choices. If the energy bill had given us new sources of diesel fuel, it might have done some good. As it is, that $3,400 tax credit could just tempt Americans to make a mistake.
The writer is chairman and chief executive of Poten & Partners Inc., which provides brokerage and consulting services to the oil, gas and maritime industries. He is a senior fellow at Columbia University's Center for Energy, Marine Transportation and Public Policy.
© 2005 The Washington Post Company
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Today it jumped up a bit. Sign said 2.54, pump still said 2.49. Gas just went up to 2.55 for 87 Octane. Grand Rapids Michigan

Northwest Washington State-----$2.86 per. Gal. :rant:

I live 75 miles north of San Francisco - Diesel is $2.95, Gas is $2.55, $2.65, and $2.75 at one of the "cut rate" stations. Might be a few cents less at the local Costco but they only sell regular & premium gas, no diesel.

I paid $2.85/gallon yesterday, this pig took $75 to fill up. Hey, I am all for $3/gallon fuel, which is approximately 33% higher than when I bought the pig at the end of May. I just want a net 33% reduction in *****inng traffic to go along with it. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be happening either. I too may have to break out the FZ1 and hit the commuter lanes and run the gauntlet on the way into work. I will be packing my .45, so if I get cut off I will be bustin' some caps!

The company I work for has been working on permitting a new refinery (Arizona Clean Fuels) for years near Yuma, Arizona. They got some of the major hurdles cleared, but now they have to bring in some heavyweight investors to make it happen. Nevertheless, it will be 2010 before they turn out a gallon of fuel.

Hasn't been a new conventional refinery built in the US for 30+ years.

Out!

hey thats not bad
i was down there in april
and i paid over 3 a gallon in pheonix az
and in cali
average was 2.40 everywhere else then


now its a high price is 2.40 good is 2.30
michigan

I paid 2.499 this morning in the company truck at a truckstop where we fill up. But at Walmart across town, they are selling it for a freakin 2.12!!!! Don't ask me how they are so much cheaper on diesel, but that is what is on the sign. They sell gas for about 2.49.

update here in my area; yesterday 2.27 at the citgo.

Diesel's only 88.9c up here! Oh wait, thats Canadian (Monopoly) Money, and litres too.

Let's see, 1 gallon is ~3.785 litres

so 88.9c x 3.785 = $3.36 CDN / US Gallon.

and 3.36 CDN = $2.81 a gallon!!!!!

HOLY CRAP, thats the 'cheap' place too! Its as high as 95c ($3.02 US/gal) some places!!!!

$3.09/gal Average around Reno. Thank heavens for the free JET-A I get.

SVO, WVO, biodiesel, kerosene, etc. are all sounding better and better all the time!

Here in Montréal it's $1.00/liter, the only advatange I see is that it's easy to count :badidea:

Daniel.

2.45 speedway gas station whitmore lake michigan it was a steady 2.43 for about 3 weeks and went up 2 cents over the week end i never let it get below a half a tank

Was 2.41 on Friday in Worland, Wyoming, Saturday it jumped to 2.56-:t but on a brighter note, we snagged 200 gallons of wvo on saturday:eek: running 25% blend right now and looking to increase it until the temp start to fall.

2.67 in Boise ID today. 2.31 for unleaded.

Steady at $3.10/gal for diesel, $2.79/gal for unleaded. Now running mostly JET-A with 2 cycle oil for lubricant along with PS. Will the anal raping never end??

$2.40 / gal here east of houston, texas.

Just heard on news radio that we as americans should quit complaining about the fuel prices because we have it cheaper than the fuel wars in 1981.
Gimmee a break! ....then he went on to say fuel was even cheaper than laundry detergent or milk. -:t

I dont know about anyone else, but I buy laundry detergent and milk about every few weeks and I have 2 kids. And yet my truck requires about $60 a week if I drive her easy.

We need fuel prices to come down, or else cost of living raises need to go up. IMHO

:help:

...or else cost of living raises need to go up. IMHO

:help:

[rant on]

I'm all for that! (since this has turned into a big whining thread) My property taxes just went up an extra $800 per year, and my health insurance went up $50/mo at the beginning of this year too. My raise this year certainly didn't cover these added costs, let alone the increased costs of natural gas for heating the house or fuel for our cars. I'd estimate I'm clearing $100~$200 less per month this year than last year.

I thought a guy was supposed to get further ahead as time went on? God knows I busted my ass this year to pass my engineering licensing exam to advance at my career. I sure as hell think I should be better off than last year, but that isn't the case cuz of the rising costs of everything on the planet.

[/rant off]

Here is my fix for diesel prices.

Hey, any of you guys notice that gasoline is back on top of diesel again by about .10 for regular unleaded. I've been in central texas, prices along the highway are now $2.50 or more a gallon.

From what I have heard there is no shortage of gas, oil, or diesel, but a bunch of A**holes in the futures markets around the world and other cartel artificially inflating the prices. I lived in Europe for a couple of years and over there they pay about $6+ something a gallon, but that is mostly taxes because everyone in the world pays the same for a barrel of crude oil. What a scam!

Delaware pricing so far - diesel is hovering around reg to mid grade pricing. (Back to where it usually was with regard to gas pricing)

I have a 275 gallon fuel tank for my boiler - that I don't think I'm gonna fill this year. I'm soooo thankful for my heat pumps - way cheaper to operate right now as compared to dino fuels.

From what I have heard there is no shortage of gas, oil, or diesel, but a bunch of A**holes in the futures markets around the world and other cartel artificially inflating the prices. I lived in Europe for a couple of years and over there they pay about $6+ something a gallon, but that is mostly taxes because everyone in the world pays the same for a barrel of crude oil. What a scam!

It's a scam alright. Just part of living in george bush's america.

It's a scam alright. Just part of living in george bush's america. No dangling chad on your voter tickey? eh?

You know ya are getting really close to needing to move this one to the OT area.

HAHA you guys got it easy!! $3.09 here in So-Cal. Next town over has a station selling Diesel for $3.29/gal!!!:eek: Reg unleaded is $2.71/gal. It really sucks when a full tank lasts you about a week. Its over $90 to fill up!!

$2.65/gal here in central IL. Unleaded just passed diesel in the last couple weeks. First time in a long time I have seen it higher.

For the most part I get away with biodiesel I make in my garage that costs me $0.80/gal. Bug I can't keep up with my demand, so I still have to fill the pockets of the greedy from time to time.

And what's with that energy bill passing giving billions in subsidies to the oil companies even through they are taking home billions a year in pure profit. Let's fund some alternative fuel research and stop digging for more crude. Just my opinion though.

Whats The recipe for the garage brew Bio-diesel? $2.62 a gallon and rising near Madison WI.

There are whole forums setup on this whole topic. I think there server will crash here soon as they won't be able to take all the traffic when the word spreads.

There are whole forums setup on this whole topic. I think their server will crash here soon as they won't be able to take all the traffic when the word spreads. Check this out. (http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=14)

I suggest that all of us eat more fast food! In a small town the wvo supply isn't very good, and most of it is going to be in my garage soon):h Diesel just hit 2.619-:t

Just got back from Newfoundland Canada, $1.07 PER LITER :eek: . How's your sphincky now????

I had to take my truck to Turlock, CA this weekend. $3.21/Gal. Ow ow ow ow ow.

Now it's really bad:

12pm $3.149 cheap gas 2.899 diesel

Don't know about diesel, but unleaded just jumped 50 cents TODAY- now 3.05 a gallon!!!!!!!!!!1-:t

Diesel just hit 2.79 here today. Cheep gas went from 2.53 to 2.74 in a matter of half a day. I called the gas distributer in tucson and they perdict 3.00 within a week.

Yesterday for work I burned a quarter tank of diesel outa my truck.....and today I went and signed papers on a toyota truck.....guess I will be parking my 6.5 a little more for the smaller jobs I gotta do. It really is sad.

I heard on the radio Bush called for opening up the emergency oil reserves....I wonder what, if any effect that will have on prices.

Fuel has to come down or I need to get another line of work.

Diesel just hit 2.79 here today. Cheep gas went from 2.53 to 2.74 in a matter of half a day. I called the gas distributer in tucson and they perdict 3.00 within a week.

Yesterday for work I burned a quarter tank of diesel outa my truck.....and today I went and signed papers on a toyota truck.....guess I will be parking my 6.5 a little more for the smaller jobs I gotta do. It really is sad.

I heard on the radio Bush called for opening up the emergency oil reserves....I wonder what, if any effect that will have on prices.

Fuel has to come down or I need to get another line of work.

The issue, as I understand it, is NOT a lack of crude oil, although obviously the raw materials coming out of the Gulf has come to a stop. The problem is refinery capacity. The refineries in the Gulf have been damaged and shut-down, as far as I know (not a lot of reporting on that). We have not, as a nation, built a new petroleum refinery for the last 20 years! (We can easily take a look back in time to understand why this is...)

Refineries produce all kinds of petro-based products, including all the normal suspects, like gasoline, heating oil, lubricating oil, asphalt, diesel, LPG, LNG, etc. There are also things we don't think about, like plastics - which means clothing, packaging, medical devices, electronics, and more. We are so reliant on not only raw oil, but on the refining of the oil that this situation is very perilous.

Sincerely,

Rob

Went to $3.09 today in the Sacramento, CA area.

$3.00 in Charlotte, NC...CNN Money is predicting it go up to $4.00!!

The issue, as I understand it, is NOT a lack of crude oil, although obviously the raw materials coming out of the Gulf has come to a stop. The problem is refinery capacity. The refineries in the Gulf have been damaged and shut-down, as far as I know (not a lot of reporting on that). We have not, as a nation, built a new petroleum refinery for the last 20 years! (We can easily take a look back in time to understand why this is...)

Refineries produce all kinds of petro-based products, including all the normal suspects, like gasoline, heating oil, lubricating oil, asphalt, diesel, LPG, LNG, etc. There are also things we don't think about, like plastics - which means clothing, packaging, medical devices, electronics, and more. We are so reliant on not only raw oil, but on the refining of the oil that this situation is very perilous.

Sincerely,

Rob
Guess what? It's been closer to 30 years!!!!

Paid $3.15 last night here in Northern Nevada. Expect it will keep going up! :eek:

Hiya Minden! I paid $3.01 at the Petro in Sparks tonight. Ow ow ow..

I did the conversion and I'm paying around $3.20 for an american gallon in american dollars or $4.50 cdn for a canadian gallon (~4.5 quarts to the imperial gallon)

I spoke too soon.....about a hour after I posted yesterday, diesel went to 2.90 a gal and cheap gas went to 2.99. Jumped about 16 cents in hours.......Its actually the first time diesels been cheaper than gas in months.....BTW, I hate my new toyota I drove to work this morning. -:t

...I heard on the radio Bush called for opening up the emergency oil reserves....I wonder what, if any effect that will have on prices...

Bush only made the Executive Order to open the Strategic Reserves. The actual demand to do this was made by a host of Democratic and Republican Senators. Obviously, these dorks:duh: know that tapping the SPR won't have a meaningful effect on fuel prices, but at least their uninformed constituents think that it will. :crazy:

[WARNING! RANT APPROACHING AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED...]
:rant:

This is yet, just another band-aid on the symptom instead of addressing the real issue of refinery capacity (and the horrendous refinery permitting process). I guess in Washington, it is not about doing something to solve the problem, it is all about MAKING PEOPLE THINK that you are solving the problem.

Okay! I feel all better now. Could I have some more grape kool-aid, please?

Blame the RADICAL tree cuddlers. No new nuke plants or refineries in 30 years. We had it coming:rant:

Scratch that previous post of mine.......coming back from lunch, she 3.09 now. Nice!

Mine went up to 2.85 today. Regular is sitting at 2.99...for now. Actually thinking about a motorcycle (50mpg sounds nice), but it's still too damn hot here to do that. And I agree, if the tree huggers would pull there head out of there a$$, we could start drilling and refining our own oil and stop giving all of OUR tax dollors to the overseas market for something we have plenty of. I say screw it, do it anyways, and if they want to interfere......... I'll stop and let it go. I'm sure you can figure the rest yourself. :rant: :rant: :rant:

If we'd stop paying our farmers to "grow nothing" and pay a fair price for growing corn, sugar beets, etc., we could run 'em on ethanol and be free of foreign oil prices! Every manufacturer has an M85 platform.

I managed a fleet of which many were run on Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) for 17 years. There are Liquid Natural Gas (LNG) plants all over our area. The technology is out there. The problem is the oil companies run everything including the government. "A nation that runs on oil money can't afford to run short!" Therein lies the problem!

Diesel here just went from 89.9 cdn/litre ($2.82US/gallon) to 93.5 ($2.94US), and the guy working the station said gas would be up to $1.35 (4.24) tomorrow Diesel over $1.00 ($3.14). Yikes.

I'm going to start collecting all the fuel I drain out of injection pump cores to put in the truck!

:eek: This is a real joke when i left newfoundland and moved to alberta gas was 30 cents a liter cheaper, now a mere 3 to 4 cents in difference.Excusess out the yen yang make me even madder.We all pay and gov reaps rewards lard tundern jezus i guess the rich will always get richer and the poor get poorer.now hard to tell difference between routine or rutt.Trucking companys will pass the buck on to stores stores on to us .home heating will pass the raise on to us taxis and transit will pass on to us,but who do we pass on to when we ask for more money our employers laugh at us and say we cant afford that. well you can only take so much im looking foreward to the time to start laughing and saying united with the whole of north america.{EXCUSE ME SIR /OR MADEM YOU CANT CHARGE THAT MUCH CAUSE WE JUST CANT AFFORD IT ANYMORE) oh tonight in calgary diesel is 99 cents a liter at cheap spots, truck stops dont have the $ up any more meaning over a buck for sure. get out the black and decker cause the goverment is not finnished reaming the Censored out of ya yet.will i better have a drink of screach before i have a stroke.

$3.07 was the price of diesel yesterday....I wonder what it will be today???

[QUOTE=coor;684336will i better have a drink of screach before i have a stroke.[/QUOTE]


I hate to tell you but I'm sure nobody here knows what screech is unless they are from newfoundland. By the way, my cousins just called from there and said fuel would be $5.50 US by next week. Now that I think of it, pass the bottle!!!!