Hey guys, I'm considering buying a truck that I've found. Its a 2009 CCSB, 4x4, Duramax. It has about everything that I want except remote start. Is every newer truck wired for it from the factory, or if it doesn't have it, it isn't wired? Just wondering how much I'd be looking at... I would like to have a GM remote start just so it has that "from the factory" look to it.

I wanna hear your guys thoughts. Is the GM remote start even worth it? Or should I just get aftermarket? I don't need alarm or anything, just remote start. I would just like to have that factory look, even though the only thing you see is a remote fob.

if it isnt factory you wont see the wiring anyways so it doesnt matter. i wouldnt waste the money on the factory ones. get an aftermarket. price depends on what features you want. range etc. definetly get a 2 way. bout $500

It all depends on the RPO codes you have listed in the glove box as to what you need to do to add factory remote start and new key fobs. If you have RPO code AP8 then it is ready and you need different key fobs and some programming. Check with service dept for the cost.

Brian

I am going to look at a Duramax tomorrow. Its a 2007 CCLB LTZ but it doesnt have the remote start like my gasser does. I am probably going to go with a two way aftermarket and looking around I found this site. It looks like a good unit. Up to a one mile range, and it has the turbo timer that the factory doesnt have. Just my $.02

The factory remote starters are junk. Get an aftermarket like Astrostart. My brother installs Astrostart and he just informed me that they are coming out with a satellite remote start that works through the Verizon network. You download an application for your phone and you use your phone to start your truck. No ideas on cost yet. I guess Viper also makes a system like that.

I am going to look at a Duramax tomorrow. Its a 2007 CCLB LTZ but it doesnt have the remote start like my gasser does. I am probably going to go with a two way aftermarket and looking around I found this site. It looks like a good unit. Up to a one mile range, and it has the turbo timer that the factory doesnt have. Just my $.02


I could be wrong, but I thought part of the LTZ upgrade was a convience package that included remote start feature as well as others. I've never seen a LTZ without remote start? Chris

Is there an on going issue of battery run downs with this option on Duramaxs.? Just alot of guys with dead batteries on top threads and not many answers but they seem to mostly have this option and it must suck alot of juice sitting off waiting for a signal to start or gaurd the truck. I can't believe there are that many weak alternators or loose wires really. Just have to wonder when cold weather hits and now this is all over topics.

Bought my truck used last Febuary it did not have remote start on it but had the wiring and had dealer install factory remote ond programing for about $200 and has worked great so far. Good luck

For all '07.5 and newers...


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4024435&postcount=3 for identification of what's in the truck and what can be added.

And, here to get "list" pricing http://www.gmaccessorieszone.com/GMC/2010/Sierra/Remote%20Start/?tx_gmshopb2b_pi1%5Btype%5D=gm


All of which I listed here http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=391310&highlight=remote+start




AND, for those who say the factory remote start sucks, KMRA:p::p::p:. We rely on these trucks to earn our paychecks, and the OE remote starter has never let me down on ANY in the fleet. Plus, not having to argue with the dealer about the fact that the it couldn't be the remote start ****ing up the PCM/ TCM is priceless.


PS (KMRA....Kiss My Rosy Ass)

:bsmeter:The factory remote starters are junk. Get an aftermarket like Astrostart. My brother installs Astrostart and he just informed me that they are coming out with a satellite remote start that works through the Verizon network. You download an application for your phone and you use your phone to start your truck. No ideas on cost yet. I guess Viper also makes a system like that.
Yeah or you can get the Onstar App for your phone and start the OE remote starter using it.


The factory remote starters are JUNK.How is it junk???

For 99% of the world, a truck doesn't need to run on remote for more than 20 minutes:rolleyes:, or even 10.
For the rest of the world, a a remote starter doesn't have to work from a mile away, or even a city block away:rolleyes:.
Hell, no wires are harmed during the install of the GM kit:rolleyes:.
And, it is serviceable at any dealer in the vast network of GM dealers on this planet:rolleyes:. And....

So, what makes a factory remote start system, that has never failed on any of MY trucks, JUNK???:slapface::deadhorse:
Prove it to me.

After the Onstar App, I'm very happy with the factory Remote Stater.

:bsmeter:
Yeah or you can get the Onstar App for your phone and start the OE remote starter using it.


How is it junk???

For 99% of the world, a truck doesn't need to run on remote for more than 20 minutes:rolleyes:, or even 10.
For the rest of the world, a a remote starter doesn't have to work from a mile away, or even a city block away:rolleyes:.
Hell, no wires are harmed during the install of the GM kit:rolleyes:.
And, it is serviceable at any dealer in the vast network of GM dealers on this planet:rolleyes:. And....

So, what makes a factory remote start system, that has never failed on any of MY trucks, JUNK???:slapface::deadhorse:
Prove it to me.

They may not be junk but they are definitely inadequate for us in the north.
It just sucks a$$ when its 40 below for 20 to 30 days in a row. Start your truck in the morning once , twice then run out side and start the truck again.
At that temp it takes near 30 mins to get any heat in the cab.
Myself I would rather start it once and be done. I have the factory remote starter and plan on getting the viper smart start.

They may not be junk but they are definitely inadequate for us in the north.
It just sucks a$$ when its 40 below for 20 to 30 days in a row. Start your truck in the morning once , twice then run out side and start the truck again.
At that temp it takes near 30 mins to get any heat in the cab.
Myself I would rather start it once and be done. I have the factory remote starter and plan on getting the viper smart start.


A) If you start it the first time, pressing the start button again BEFORE 10 minutes run out, it will extend the run time to 20 minutes. BUT, that constitutes the TWO remote start attempts. Again, "I" can see no merit in more than 20 minutes.
II) The OEM unit (when upgraded or purchased as a 2way unit) will verify running, among other parameters.
3) The OEM will take control over Heat, Defrost, Heated Seats, Heated Mirrors, etc...when Digital climate control is present. If manual HVAC is there, it'll fire the HVAC at the last setting, yet still activate mirror heat, seat heat, and defog.
d) If "I" lived in that climate, "I'd" have a diesel fired APU installed.
V) If the GM truck ('07.5 and newer) has keyless entry, remote start costs less than $350 for the 2way system, requires no cutting of the harness, and cannot be "blamed" for other "gremlins".

GM designed the system for the 95th percentile, and you're just special enough to be the 5%.:p:

I don't hear anyone explaining why the aftermarket remotes run down batts. and get solved. Viper must use alot of voltage to protect and function on remote compared to factory systems. I don't have either just read the problem columns enough to see the trend of it. Alot must stay charged enough to work but after some point the truck won't start from low power in batts. on aftermarkets. True or False?

I don't hear anyone explaining why the aftermarket remotes run down batts. and get solved. Viper must use alot of voltage to protect and function on remote compared to factory systems. I don't have either just read the problem columns enough to see the trend of it. Alot must stay charged enough to work but after some point the truck won't start from low power in batts. on aftermarkets. True or False?


That's an isnstaller issue. They're power from the INADVertant power circuit, or feeding the INADVertant power circuit. It is rare to find an educated installer. Just another check mark for the OE setup.

So that's the first thing to check and fix if you buy an aftermarket remote/alarm on a Duramax it seems. I put that in the notebook because I've watched for the answer to this problem and it's never be stated in detail. Should be posted on here in front items to look at. Thanks......

I am part of the "factory remote is junk" crowd. In theory I am happy with all the options and capabilities of the remote, even in the cold Canadian -30 plus winters. 20 minutes is enough to warm the truck (when plugged in). However I have had problems with the remote since I got the truck. Too often I remote started the truck to only have it shut down 5 seconds after start up. No codes ever generated, been to the dealer several times for this, they could never figure it out, updated every thing they could still would fail occasionally. Not to mention when it would start and I would want to add the extra 10 minutes of run time the truck would shut down (don't think thats too good when its running at elevated idle) instead of adding the minutes. Can't wait for my Astrostart I'm getting next week!

My 2010 does the same thing, when I hit the start button while it's started to get the extra 10 min of run time it shuts the engine off.:mad::mad::mad:

I skipped a step when instructing on how to extend the run time. While running on remote start, press "lock" and, within 2 seconds, press "start" again.

Remote Vehicle Start
With this feature the engine can be
started from outside of the vehicle.
Starting the Vehicle
1. Aim the RKE transmitter at the
vehicle.
2. Press "LOCK".
3. Immediately after completing
Step 2, press and hold "START" until
the turn signal lamps flash.
When the vehicle starts, the parking
lamps will turn on and remain on
as long as the engine is running.
The doors will be locked and the
climate control system may
come on.
The engine will continue to run for
10 minutes. Repeat the steps for a
10-minute time extension. Remote
start can be extended only once.
Canceling a Remote Start
To cancel a remote start:
. Aim the RKE transmitter at
the vehicle and press and
hold "START" until the parking lamps
turn off.
OR
. Turn on the hazard warning
flashers.
OR
. Turn the ignition on and then
back off.

From here http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/pdf/owners/manuals/2011/2011_Silverado_Owner_Manual.pdf

:bsmeter:
Yeah or you can get the Onstar App for your phone and start the OE remote starter using it.The OnStar app doesn't work for anything but '11 & up.

Hopefully GM will rectify this once they get all the '10s of the lots....

-bZj

The OnStar app doesn't work for anything but '11 & up.

Hopefully GM will rectify this once they get all the '10s of the lots....

-bZj

Did not know that.......


When will the OnStar MyLink mobile app be available for previous model year vehicles?
Extending the mobile app to pre-2011 model year vehicles is currently under evaluation.


From here http://www.onstar.com/web/portal/pressrelease?articleID=6358806

Yeah, it's obviously a push to move the '11s. I'm really hoping the $50k+ I just dropped on my '10 counts for something. :) Is there any known difference in the OnStar system from LMM to LML?

I really want to start my truck from my phone. :D

-bZj