thanks DANE @ madjack!!!! this pan is HUGE! i took pics, just gotta upload them. theres some floating around if you search. Comes with all new hardware, and i ordered a new spin on filter, along with a new pan gasket just to be on the safe side. juts wanted to thank dane FOR THE PROMPT SHIPPING!!! AND FREE BY THE WAY :) JUST GOTTA GTE SOME CASH FOR SOME TORQUEDRIVE!! btw when is ppe gonna make oil pans???

Man you really like draining the fluid out of that trans. What's that like 3 times in the past week ? Haha

Now all we need is the new PPE differential cover.

haha drained it to do the shift kit. then got it worng, had to drain it again. thhhheennnn drained it again to put on the deep pan lol

What's it like an extra 4 qt capacity?

What's it like an extra 4 qt capacity?

Yes that is correct 1 gallon added to the sump. Then the PPE pan has 1 1/4" deep fins on the inside of the pan to really pull heat from the fluid. The heat transfer on this pan is the best on the market.

The PPE pan is well engineered. It has big fins inside and out and the use of the factory gasket is a big plus in my book. You also don't need a filter lock becuase of all the internal fins. The only issue is it probably hangs too low for anyone doing serious off-roading, which is the price you pay for 4 quarts extra and big fins. On the plus side it is very thick and the fins add strength, so it would probably require a big hit to crack it.

yea it might hang a little low for offroading in the woods, but sand or mud id say youre okay...

Sledhead- was it a big pain to get the fitting on the cp3 inlet, or have you had yours out of the truck for work?

yea it might hang a little low for offroading in the woods, but sand or mud id say youre okay...

Sledhead- was it a big pain to get the fitting on the cp3 inlet, or have you had yours out of the truck for work?

I did it in the truck. Wasnt that bad if I remember I unbolted the alternator, a/c compressor, and the t stat housing. The worst part was getting the hose back on to the new larger fitting. I think I may try to run some larger fuel hoses one day if possible.

The PPE pan blows away the Mag pan hands down. With the Mag pan your filter will fall out without a filter loc.

sledhead- since ive got an airdog, what u think about me eliminating the fuel filter, taking the line from the filter inlet, and running 1/2 flexible line all the way to the cp3?? and unbolting the tstat would allow me to change it!!

I deleted my oe filter no problem. I just removed both lines and the filter then looped some new 1/2" fuel line. I'm not to sure how you would run the line from the airdog to the cp3 because fuel flows through the FICM to cool it. The cp3 inlet is maybe like a 3/8" line.

yea it might hang a little low for offroading in the woods, but sand or mud id say youre okay...


Yeah, I pretty much came to the same conclusion. Since mostly use mine off road to haul my trailer in and out of campgrounds, I am not too worried about hammering it hard on a rock, which is probably what it would take to damage that pan.

pics of the setup???

drove a couple hundred miles yesterday, and with outside temps 35*-65* the temp gauge never hit above 150 while doing 70 mph. in town i saw i hit maybe 155, and that was with dexcron fluid...im happy with the pan so far!!

drove a couple hundred miles yesterday, and with outside temps 35*-65* the temp gauge never hit above 150 while doing 70 mph. in town i saw i hit maybe 155, and that was with dexcron fluid...im happy with the pan so far!!
So you don't need a filter lock with the PPE pan?

They say you don't need a filter lock because the inside of the pan has deep fins that hold the filter in place

inside the pan, the fins extend up into it 1.25 inches... then below it, the fins are quarted inch...so the internal fins dissapate heat to the external fins, and also hold up the allison deep filter :):) they say the internal fins help against sloshing too

Very good info on the PPE trans pans guys! Greatly appreciate all the first hand comments! Good to see everyone is happy with the PPE pans!

So you don't need a filter lock with the PPE pan?

That is correct you do not need the filter lock with a PPE deep pan. :thumb:

The PPE pan has a filter lock fin cast inside the pan that won't allow any type or brand of filter to fall out.

The pan is pretty heavy duty, way stronger than the stock tin unit.

I need this pan!! I saw it in a magazine today.

Hauling a camper and towing a Jeep on a trailer, the trans heats up pretty good at slow speeds while climbing steep mtn passes. This pan will surely help some.

Truck is bone stock 2009, and for a period of about 20 minutes, the temp was up around 215..... BAD BAD BAD I'm sure.

I have a deep Allison pan ill probably dump for sale and run the ppe when I build my
Tranny.

does this PPE pan differ in depth than the Mag hytech pan? does it hang any lower than the mag unit?

does this PPE pan differ in depth than the Mag hytech pan? does it hang any lower than the mag unit?

Yes it does hang lower than a Mag-Hytec.

about 1/2" lower, this is due to the deeper cooling fins on the PPE pan.

No pan will cool like a trans cooler.

No pan will cool like a trans cooler.

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The part I like about the deep pan is that I am more comfortable running the fluid level a little lower than since there is so much extra capacity. This makes it easyt to avoid overfill.

The part I like about the deep pan is that I am more comfortable running the fluid level a little lower than since there is so much extra capacity. This makes it easyt to avoid overfill.

That makes no sense at all. If you know how to read a dipstick you will not overfill it. The dipstick depth does not change because you put a deep pan on.If the pan was 5 feet deep and the top level was low, you would set a code.

I am aware the dipstick postion does not change, but there is an extra four quarts or so above the intake. Instead of keeping it near the top of the hot full mark, I keep it more towad the lower middle range, so no codes set, easier to get the level OK, no worries about the actual reservouir being low. Is there a problem with this approach Mike?

Didn't know the Alli had a fluid level sensor. Good to know.

whats the point of having a deep pan, thern not filling it to the full capacity??? lol

Instead of having 4 additional quarts over max, I have 3.5.

sounds like that pan is worth every penny, wish I could find a used one
totally jealous

what somebody should do....is take an extra stock pan, cut off the bottom flat with a saw, then weld like a 2" strip of metal all the way around, then weld the bottom back on... homemade deep pan!! add a filter lock, and youve got youre own setup for the cost of a few hours fab time!!!

what somebody should do....is take an extra stock pan, cut off the bottom flat with a saw, then weld like a 2" strip of metal all the way around, then weld the bottom back on... homemade deep pan!! add a filter lock, and youve got youre own setup for the cost of a few hours fab time!!!

You should do this because it's so easy and then do a write up. When you are finished and have spent 500.00 dollars of your money with negative results; you will go and buy an Allison deep pan for 70.00. Hopefully you still have a trans that works.:rolleyes:

No pan will cool like a trans cooler.

Cooler on order, Thanks MIKE!! (called you Friday from WA State)

what somebody should do....is take an extra stock pan, cut off the bottom flat with a saw, then weld like a 2" strip of metal all the way around, then weld the bottom back on... homemade deep pan!! add a filter lock, and youve got youre own setup for the cost of a few hours fab time!!!

I'll give you the bennefit of the doubt and assume you are joking???

ON a 5 spd. what is the actual deg. drop of fluid temp with just the big pan? Thought it was said on other thread a better cooler is the ideal helper must be like Inglewood's.

If PPE had a o-ring seal similar to Mag-Hytec, they would of hit the jackpot. The gasket in between the case and pan doesn't fully allow the pan to fully integrate into the case, and help stiffen up the the entire housing. Maybe the case is plenty strong and a cast pan doesn't add or need rigidity, if this is the case, the above would be mute.

Just for the record, I've ran the Mag pan for about 7 years now, and never had the filter fall out. Not saying it can't happen, just never had the pleasure of experiencing it.

If PPE had a o-ring seal similar to Mag-Hytec, they would of hit the jackpot. The gasket in between the case and pan doesn't fully allow the pan to fully integrate into the case, and help stiffen up the the entire housing. Maybe the case is plenty strong and a cast pan doesn't add or need rigidity, if this is the case, the above would be mute.

Just for the record, I've ran the Mag pan for about 7 years now, and never had the filter fall out. Not saying it can't happen, just never had the pleasure of experiencing it.

You had the pleasure of running my measurements on the early Mag pan when Suncoast shit canned it because of filters falling out. The measurements have changed since then and they do fall out. I won't use them.

Mike why don't you have a shop here in Texas??? I would love to have you build my transmission for towing/performance. Do you know any shops that you would recomend in my area?

When can we see the pictures?

The gasket in between the case and pan doesn't fully allow the pan to fully integrate into the case, and help stiffen up the the entire housing. Maybe the case is plenty strong and a cast pan doesn't add or need rigidity, if this is the case, the above would be mute.


The stock Allison Gasket does have metal spacers molded into it to keep the rubber portion of Gasket at an exact compressed distance after fully tightening bolts , pan does make metal to metal contact with transmission once torqued properly.

These metal spacers should allow pan to transmission integration.

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Mike why don't you have a shop here in Texas??? I would love to have you build my transmission for towing/performance. Do you know any shops that you would recomend in my area?

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