OK, I have just read every post on here about lifts. I am still not sure.
So, if you have one or have had one please give me your insights. If you don't know or have only heard rumors please don't respond. :blahblah: I am looking for real info. I want to get my lift done soon. Thanks!

I am leaning more towards Pro Comp or the RCD. I know there are many others, probably better ones but I don't want to drop huge cash on this lift. (I don't think the ones I am talking about suck, do they?) I will only off road on trails, on the way to a nice place to fish. ):h I won't jump it, rock climb or anything like that.

I don't like the lifts that kick the stock tire track out, I think RCD does? Pro Comp does not?
4 Wheel Parts has the Pro Comp kit for $1192 right now, $1298 w/ MX shocks. ($1568 for the kit with the EXP reservoir shocks)
The cheapest the RCD kit comes is $1343? They seem to be pretty much the same. What are the pros and cons?

So, please give me your thoughts on ride, quality, etc. I don't want the T-bars cranked, don't want them touched.
I was thinking of running a 35 x 12.50 x 17 on like a 17x9 rim? (still need to shop the rims and tires)

Post pictures if you have them or email them to me: aquaelvis@comcast.net

Another thing, how will a 6 inch lift w/ 35's effect other stuff on the truck. Rear end, tranny, drive shefts, etc? What other problems am I going to run into and how do I fix them? (don't care if the speedo is a little off)

I put on a pro-comp 6" lift about a month ago, and so far I love it. 35x12.5x18" tires and the thing rides awesome.

No major problems with the kit at all. The install was pretty smooth, just hot as hell outside. I upgraded to the mx6 shocks and mine was like 1500 shipped. The shocks are really nice. For everyday driving I leave them on the soft setting and the truck rides far better than stock.

I called pro-comp and got excellent tech support. The only thing that I found could be a down fall, and this would be with any kit RCD or Pro-Comp, is that if you have autotrac your F#$cked. Pro-Comp sells a drive shaft kit for the AutoTrac 4 wheel drive crap and that kit is another 800 bucks and you have to pull apart your front diff.

Overall the install took myself and a friend about 2 days to do it. Got the front end aligned after the install was done, and now it's my daily driver. It's definately a head turner.

Thanks Kappa, did you have to do anything else? Rear end? Drive shaft? POst some pics! :ro)

I have owned two RCD lifts and had very good results, although they do widen your front tire track width. The RDC lift is a spindle type lift meaning the front diff is only dropped 3 1/2" to 4" and the rest of the lift comes from new, longer spindles. The upper control stay's in the stock location and the lower control arm is moved. I believe with the procomp lift, that it is a full drop kit where the front diff is dropped the full six inches along with both control arms. This extra dropping of the front diff is the reason the new front driveshaft is needed for those with autotrac. The RCD doesn't need it. Both kits are pretty complete. I like the quality a little more on the RCD and I don't like the customer service with ProComp. If I had to chose again I would get the RCD and over look the wider front track width. What are the down sides of widening you footprint besides looks?

Just my $.02,

Chris

Other than looks I don't think the wider track is a big deal. I am just not a fan of tires sticking too far outside the fender. I like them to follow the line of the stock flares.
If there is a reason to go with RCD over Pro Comp or another lift I might over look that and try to get rims that set in a little more.

Here is a stupid question; how do you know if you have Auto Track? Is it easy to know? I don't remember seeing anything on the truck or on the sticker. But I bought my truck sight unseen so I could have missed something if I was not looking for it. (like auto track) I have what I thought was just a standard 4x4, the dash controls have 2, N, 4 up and 4 down.

OK, I just found a picture online with the "auto 4x4" button for the autotrac. I don't have that on mine. :cool2:

I keep seeing things like "6-9 inch lift" and "4-6 inch lift" Are these 2 (PC and RCD) lifts full 6 inch and do they mess with the t-bars at all??? I don't want a 4 inch lift with 2 inches of cranked T-bars.
Still waiting to hear from the guys with 35's about how they like them. Gas, ride, tranny mods, rear end, etc.

OK, I have just read every post on here about lifts. I am still not sure.
So, if you have one or have had one please give me your insights. If you don't know or have only heard rumors please don't respond. :blahblah: I am looking for real info. I want to get my lift done soon. Thanks!

I am leaning more towards Pro Comp or the RCD. I know there are many others, probably better ones but I don't want to drop huge cash on this lift. (I don't think the ones I am talking about suck, do they?) I will only off road on trails, on the way to a nice place to fish. ):h I won't jump it, rock climb or anything like that.

I don't like the lifts that kick the stock tire track out, I think RCD does? Pro Comp does not?
4 Wheel Parts has the Pro Comp kit for $1192 right now, $1298 w/ MX shocks. ($1568 for the kit with the EXP reservoir shocks)
The cheapest the RCD kit comes is $1343? They seem to be pretty much the same. What are the pros and cons?

So, please give me your thoughts on ride, quality, etc. I don't want the T-bars cranked, don't want them touched.
I was thinking of running a 35 x 12.50 x 17 on like a 17x9 rim? (still need to shop the rims and tires)

Post pictures if you have them or email them to me: aquaelvis@comcast.net

Check my sig--my set up is about what you're talking about. I have the pro-comp. It rides good & haven't had any problems with it. I get offroad 2-3 times a month & it runs good in the dirt. The 35's will make it a bit of a dog off the line. Some people here have put 4.10's in to get over that, but most just add a tuner. I did the V/A & had the tranny built--still may go for 4.10's. Do a search on re-gearing & tuners--you'll find a lot of info.

The RCD will give you 5.5" of lift without touching the torsion bars. The bars are usually turned to give the extra half inch lift. Can't see how this would hurt anything.

Not sure about the other kits but most probably arethe same.

I don't mind a little tweak of the t-bars but I am gun shy because I ruined the ride on my 04 HD. (it looked good though)

:rant: Here is what I seem to be finding...
When you call a local shop and ask about lifts, they bad mouth the Pro Comp and try to sell only lifts that companies like 4 Wheel Parts do not sell. (like RCD or Trail Master) The only cross-over lift I can see them both selling is the Fab Tech 8 inch lift.

It seems to me that the smaller, local off road shops might have a little envy for the big retailers. Neither wants to sell what the other does. It might have lot to do with the programs and prices those lift companies are giving to their large sellers, VS the little guys.

I know when I had a retail swimming pool store in So cal I hated the brands that sold cheap to large chains because they killed my profits. Yes, In many ways the big chains sold crap and dropped the ball on service but they had me on the price! I knew how the big chains could sell their stuff for nothing, they were getting sweet deals from the manufacturer. Thus, I resented them and had nothing nice to say about them.
All the indy pool stores in that area did the same, none of us liked Hayward pool equipment, it was the "junk" that Leslie's Pool Supply (large chain) sold for pennies. (you get what you pay for right? not always)
In reality, it was not bad equipmet, in 10-20 years you might see the quality between what I sold for 50% more and what you could buy from a chain store. A pump from them for $400 would do eveything the normal homeowner wanted it to just as well as the $650 one I wanted to sell them. The resentment came from the companies selling their pumps to Leslies for $200 and to me for $400... so we all switched to another brand of pump and tried to sell them for more, because it was "better". The bottomline is that if I could have bought those pumps for $200 I would have sold them, maybe not to all customers but to most. (some people don't feel good about what they bought unless it had the biggest price tag)

Back on topic... ;) I found something interesting. I went to Wheel Parts and looked at what those guys drove. I saw lots of Pro Comp and lots of Fab Tech. (all the 6 inch kits on employee trucks were Pro Comp) I find that telling, these guys get great deals on their lifts and free install, some even get better deals from the company sales reps. (sales rep from X brand comes in and sees a new truck, he will kick that guy a bonus to use his lift, better for business) With that said, why do these guys have Pro Comp? If it is junk, they would know. They install several a day. It would seem that if Pro Comp had the kind of trouble that the small, indy shops say they do, wouldn't the guys at 4WP's use another lift for their own rigs?
I found that very interesting, I just talked to a guy who works there with the PC 6 inch lift, 35 x 12.50 x 17's and he loves it. He could have tried to sell me on other lifts, I was very interested in the Fab Tech 8 inch kit. His advise was to use the same kit he did. With lots of inside knowledge he still went with a Pro Comp.... interesting.

So, I am still thinking about it but for about $2100 out the door (install, tax, alignment, adj shocks) the Pro Comp lift seems like a good deal. They want $700 for install and alignment. I need to figure out what I want and what rim/tire combo to run and then grind on the price.
:ro)

...No, they dislike pro-comp because pro-comp has consistantly proven to be a ****ty lift whether it be on a jeep, dodge, powerstroke, chevy, whatever. Pro-comp is also owned by 4wpw, a company not known for its honesty or professionalism...such as them buying idler arms from the chevy parts dept and reselling them with a 200% markup as "HD idler arms" then having them warrentied through chevy when they ****ed up. Some ignorant people will always be brand loyal with everything whether right or wrong, but then...there are plenty who have been there and done that many times and know what's up...

Fair enough, but the question still remains... if they are junk, why do the people who sell them (and see all the unhappy customers) still put them on their own trucks?
The people who work there would all use other lifts if these were crap, right? I know if I saw problems on products I sold, those would be the last things I put on my truck!
And... I see lots of shops selling special Torsion "keys" under many names, all the same thing you can buy at a GM parts counter for half the price. :eek: That is just business.

I ordered the Pro Comp lift from 4wheelparts on Monday. I went full out and got the 6" kit with dual shock hoops and reservoir shocks. From what I've read, the guys who have them love them. There's alot of people that bad talk pro comp, and I did think they had problems with their earlier kits. My reasons for going pro comp over rcd was that it's a true 6" drop which means flat cv angles and the ability to crank it up to an 8" lift, and the stance remains the same. You can also use factory wheels with pro comp, and not RCD. Not a big deal, but still good. The downfalls I see with the pro comp is that the install requires welding....thats about it. The rear add-a-leaf/block combo will produce axle wrap, but thats pretty much the standard with all kits. You can upgrade to Deaver springs later down the road for about $600, which will improve the ride.
Since my t-bars are cranked up 1.5" now, I'm going to take it up to a 7.5" kit and put 37x12.50's on 17x8 (4.5 BS) wheels. I've read the 4.10's will work with this no problem, but the 4.56's would be preferred. That could always be taken care of later down the road.

here goes.... only problem I've seen with PC 6" kit is the subframe holes need a little "help" with a pry bar to install onto truck frame, other than that no problems...yet. Our shop usually does the rancho 4", goes right in with no "help", with this kit we use 35" tires on 8 and 9" wheels, usually only about 3 turns above stock on the T bars. I do most of the work and I've gotten the rancho kit down to just a bit over 3 hours install time, last one was 3hrs 10 min to be exact, helps to have a shop,all needed tools and a lift. My truck has the rancho 4" and 35 PC M/T's, 35K miles so far and not a problem, even hauls gooseneck with 4 show cows all over the Southeast.... check sig

shoulda mentioned this.... all trucks with rancho 4" kit and 35's are HD's, 1500 needs at least 6" for 35's.... and 17" wheels, 16's will not work less you are into grinding brake calipers

aquaelvis just make sure you get the SD tie rod sleeves, and the Cognito Pitman/Idler supports. Either lift should be pretty good, both are pretty high quality. Im currently in the process of shopping/saving for a lift. Im leaning towards cognito though.

I got the Pro Comp with 17 inch M/T Classic 2 wheels on 35 BFG mud terrains. The truck rides as good or better than stock in my opinion and I got the basic shock from pro comp (i am not sure what there called, i just know they were the cheapest. Around here everybody is either got RCD, fabtech, or Pro Comp. In my opinion Pro Comp is the only way to go. The fabtech and the RCD push the front tires to far out, expecially the fabtech. No joke on a 315-75-16 the tires hang out 6.5 inches past the fender flares and that is with a offset close to stock. Like i said no complaints Pro Comp is easy to install and cheap. Its a win win situation in my opion.

I am currently running a ex cab as well as a crew cab. Both have RCD 6. I will not crank the bars. I measured the top of the headlights of the crew before and after the install. I got exactly 9" of lift between the tires and lift. I think the expanded track with looks good. It is a personal opinion howeve. The crew rides 100x better than the ex cab.

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Well, I decided on the lift and tires. All the parts are being ordered in and will be installed next week.
I went with the 6 inch ProComp w/ Helo Maxx8's and 35x12.50x17 muds.
Can't wait to get it done, will post pics when it is finished.
:ro)

Well, I decided on the lift and tires. All the parts are being ordered in and will be installed next week.
I went with the 6 inch ProComp w/ Helo Maxx8's and 35x12.50x17 muds.
Can't wait to get it done, will post pics when it is finished.
:ro)

Did you get the deal that is out now ? Like $150 of the kit and $150 of installation ?

How much with the Helo's and rubber ? (if you don't mind)

TIA

I worked a deal with them, I think I did OK.
We worked it as a package deal, don't know what the cost of the tires and rims alone were yet. (it will be on the invoice when I pick it up)
I got the package for $3770 plus tax, it came to $4100 out the door. (8.8% tax rate here) It worked out to be about $1000 less than they started at. I think the labor and alignment was $650 and $97.
That includes the lift kit with the adjustable MX6 shocks, rims, tires, install labor, alignment, etc. Would have liked to do the install myself but I am moving and won't be set up in my new garage for weeks. It was $650 and that got it done soon and no headaches for me. (and they cover any warranty work)
I am dropping it off small and driving it home big! I can't wait, it is going in this Wednesday... be finished Thursday. I also have my exhaust here waiting to be put on and my steps.
:cool2:

Awesome info, thanks alot for sharing, I'm trying to budget my lift as well. $4k, ouch, but has to be done.

Sounds like a killer setup, post a pic or three when you get it.

I got my truck back from 4 Wheel Parts tonight after the lift was installed. I LOVE it, looks great and drives great. I don't notice any change in ride quality and the truck is still very quick.
I'll try to get some pics posted soon but if anyone else is thinking of a ProComp lift, I give them a thumbs up. ):h

I'm in the process of installing the ProComp 6" lift right now. I've dropped trucks before, but this is the first time for me lifting one. I have moderate mechanic skills and so does my buddy who is helping. Whata PITA this kit is to install!!! I'm cutting and grinding all over the place!! Just when I thought I was done cutting and grinding, when I was putting in the new front crossmember drops, they didn't line up right, so more cutting and grinding. Whew, I'm exhausted.

And to top it all off, when I put on my Fabtech pitman/idler kit, I cut off my factory steering stabilizer mount. Now I can't use the new mount due to clearance and need my old one. I'm going to have to fabricate something up for that. I'd say the $650 for install is definately worth it! ):h

This kit better ride nice!!!! ;)

You hit the nail on the head... your situation is exactly why I spent the $650! Lots of people said this kit was hard to install. I asked the mechanic who did mine and he said it was easy. I wasn't going to chance it!
On the bright side... it rides great and looks KILLER! You will be very happy when you get yours done. The ride is stock or better.
:grd:

Nobody ever mentions the Trailmaster lift. I really like the ride and look of this lift on my black truck. It is grey and black and doesn't stick out like a sore diick. This truck rides and tracks well both on and off-road. Stable as hell in tight corners with no body roll or signs of sloppy suspension. I also believe that a lot of local 4x4 shops carry this and will install for under $2000. I think that is pretty good, since almost everyone else wanted much more for other lifts. The front tires do stick out about 1" further, but it isn't a big deal. Nothing some spacers can't cure out back.

You can see the lift in my link under my sig.

Out!

I got my truck back from 4 Wheel Parts tonight after the lift was installed. I LOVE it, looks great and drives great. I don't notice any change in ride quality and the truck is still very quick.
I'll try to get some pics posted soon but if anyone else is thinking of a ProComp lift, I give them a thumbs up. ):h


Nice to hear another thumbs up for ProComp. I've had mine for 2 years now not one problem. Rides and looks good.

http://dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5267&d=1118452074

I run a 6" Superlift on a DMAX/ALLY with 37's. The truck has been flown across gulleys and runs cross country in the desert regularly. No problems.

Unfortunately, the Superlift people don't have their s%$t together on the their traction bars and front stabilizers.

Hey aquaelvis, where's the pic's ??

LOL

I just moved today, need to unpack the digi camera. I will wash it and get some shots by Saturday. :D It looks cool, from my new house I can look out the windows and see it... I love this truck! ):h

The RCD will give you 5.5" of lift without touching the torsion bars. The bars are usually turned to give the extra half inch lift. Can't see how this would hurt anything.

Not sure about the other kits but most probably arethe same.

Actually, the RCD will give you 6" set at stock, that is why it is a 6" kit. You can crank them as far as 7.5 or 8" but your angles will suck. And the diff. is dropped 4.5"

I am new to this site and am still reading through all the posts. I am also new to the diesel world and am not completely up-to-speed on all the "tricks", but do have some questions. When I bought my new '05 I swore that I would not lift my truck. Now I am not so sure. I can't stand having those tiny little tires on that beautiful truck and I don't feel 265s are gonna cut it. I love the look of a nice lifted truck. My last truck was a '95 gasser with a 6" PC lift and 35" BFG Muds and I loved it, but there were a few things that I didn't like as well that I am not sure would happen with the powerful diesel engine. Okay, here are my concerns:

1. I have the 3.73 gears that come with the diesel power pkg. Would I have to regear with a 6" lift and 35" tires? I hated that sluggish take off on my gasser and even with a chip, intake, TB spacer, and exhaust it did not meet my expectations.

2. I plan on towing in the future (M/C trailer, boat, 5th wheel). What are things I should consider, if any, for these applications if I lift it?

3. Do they make 35" tires in E load range? How critical is this? What kind of jack is everyone using in the event of a flat?

One last cut on the PC lift. I loved mine. I did do quite a bit of off roading (nothing crazy) with it and no problems. The only thing I really didn't like was that the paint started to come off after awhile and it didn't look as nice. After everything I have read, it seems that PC would be a good choice with the HD as well. Thanks in advance for all your input!

Dave
San Diego

hope i can help ya.
1. a towing/economy chip such as those from banks,diablo,tts,bully dog,edge.etc. will cure all those problems.
2. im going to do something around 8" to my truck and pull my drag car,friends boat,atv's.etc. my friend has a 6" suspension and 3" body lift and 37" toyo mt's and tows 17k lbs once a week.no issues for 2 years. but make sure you have a nice brake controller.
3. yes, toyo mt 315/75/16 (35's), and the other sizes in 35", have very high weight ratings.its very critical to have enough weight rating on your tires just for these trucks before you even load them with anything or tow. yes thats very critical.some 35" tires have ratings as low as 2900lbs. thats too low in my opinion.your truck with a lift,passengers and fuel will creep up within 85% or so of that weight.

Cognito and CST are lifts you should consider if you are going to tow heavy

I am new to this site and am still reading through all the posts. I am also new to the diesel world and am not completely up-to-speed on all the "tricks", but do have some questions. When I bought my new '05 I swore that I would not lift my truck. Now I am not so sure. I can't stand having those tiny little tires on that beautiful truck and I don't feel 265s are gonna cut it. I love the look of a nice lifted truck. My last truck was a '95 gasser with a 6" PC lift and 35" BFG Muds and I loved it, but there were a few things that I didn't like as well that I am not sure would happen with the powerful diesel engine. Okay, here are my concerns:

1. I have the 3.73 gears that come with the diesel power pkg. Would I have to regear with a 6" lift and 35" tires? I hated that sluggish take off on my gasser and even with a chip, intake, TB spacer, and exhaust it did not meet my expectations.

2. I plan on towing in the future (M/C trailer, boat, 5th wheel). What are things I should consider, if any, for these applications if I lift it?

3. Do they make 35" tires in E load range? How critical is this? What kind of jack is everyone using in the event of a flat?

One last cut on the PC lift. I loved mine. I did do quite a bit of off roading (nothing crazy) with it and no problems. The only thing I really didn't like was that the paint started to come off after awhile and it didn't look as nice. After everything I have read, it seems that PC would be a good choice with the HD as well. Thanks in advance for all your input!

Dave
San Diego

I said the same thing but went for it given so many have gone before me....
I noticed a subtle difference at take off, but got used to it. A tuner will more than make up the difference.
I tow a 33ft TT (9k lbs plus 1k of gear) and have no problems. Tows much nicer than stock, lots of power, hard to keep under 65mph.
Toyo Open Country MT is E rated. Good question on the jack. Some keep an extra 35 in the bed. I need the room. I think no more than a 33 can fit in the spare area. If you figure it out let me know ;) I'm thinking of adding a compartment somewhere underneath for a jack. For now it's blocks ;(

Remember, your 95 gasser, if the 350, was only 200ish hp and 300 ft lb from the factory. You are looking at 320hp and 610 ft lb with the diesel, I don't think ti will be a problem. If you get the predator or equivelant, you can install a 40hp or 65hp tune that will help out even more. Plus, the predator can change your tires size to adjust the speedo.

Awesome info, thanks alot for sharing, I'm trying to budget my lift as well. $4k, ouch, but has to be done.

Sounds like a killer setup, post a pic or three when you get it.

4 grand is a killer deal. I have 8k in my lift and wheels.....

Does anyone know of any websites that review the different lift kits? What is the big deal about CST and why are they so expensive?

Aquaelvis - when we gonna see some pictures of that newly lifted truck? Would love to see what the ProComp lift looks like.

Sorry for the delay, still have not had a chance to get any pics when it is clean. I just took a couple bad pics. I will get more this weekend maybe?
I still LOVE the lift... best $4100 I have spent in a long time!

very nice!

Beautiful! Damn, I wish I was lifted.

Aquaelvis - Beautiful truck! Looks like I will have to get mine lifted when I get back from the desert. Do the cops in WA give you a hard time because you don't have mud flaps on the back? When I lived there, they pulled me over and told me I had to put flaps on mine. I had a 6" PC w/ 35" muds. I look fwd to seeing more pics!

That does look good. What do you mean when it's clean, that looks pretty clean to me. I can hardly tell mine is white

No trouble with the law yet... fingers crossed. I had one follow me for a long time, thought for sure he was going to pull me over. I assumed he was waiting for another car to show up as we were out in the boonies. He ended up taking off. I thought I was screwed though.

I am doing lots of work at my new house and it is very dusty. It just makes it look clean (white) but it does not shine like it should. I like to get pics after it has a bath, then it sparkles ):h

Anyone know the deal with the CST lift? I been doing my homework and checked out the CST lift. They recommend putting the bigger leaf springs in the rear vice the blocks, but read an article that stated the springs were for a 1/2 ton truck. Why would anyone want to put 1/2 ton springs on a 3/4 ton truck? Am I missing something?

Also, a few people say that ProComp lifts suck however nobody states a reason. I am looking for reasons why not to buy a procomp. Can anyone give me any valid ones? CST looks good too, without the 1/2 ton springs in the rear of course. All this gives me a headache.

I just got pulled over yesterday, doing 76 on the freeway. (60 limit) I guess I took the off ramp at 72 and that really pissed him off. He did not give me a ticket, just a warning. He did read me the riot act about no mud flaps, gave me a warning for those too. :ro)

As far as all the lifts go it is "better" to get new springs than use a block. Maybe you read it wrong? I don't think any lift would tell you to use 1/2 ton sprngs. I had planned on using the blocks for now and ordering a new spring pack from Deaver later. I am happy with the blocks so far so I might just stick with it. On the highway it is fine, I do mild off road and so far it is fine. No axl wrap or anything.

As for Pro Comp, I found the same thing. Lots of guys saying they weren't good, but never a reason! What I figured out was that small indy shops can't meet 4WP's prices and are bitter. The result is that they bad mouth the Pro Comp. They want you to buy a CST or a RCD so they can make more. "Pro Comp sucks but we sell the good kits, only $1000 more" Most guys (myself included) will say, $1000 more for quality is nothing... and I agree. The trouble with that and Pro Comp is the quality IS there. Some people might say 4WPs don't do good install, blah, blah blah... the install is only as good as the guy doing it, NOT the company.
I had a truck lifted by an small off road shop years ago, Dependable Off Road in Orange County. I showed up after my truck was a day later being finished and found the lift being installed by a high school ROP student! That made me happy!
One of the trendiest shops in Orange County, Outlaw Off Road is the company that ruined the ride on my 2004HD. Funny thing, I spoke with 4WP's about what they were doing before they did it and those guys told me to use a spindle lift instead and to not use Outlaw. 4WP's was right on the money. I should have listened to them.
It is up to you, get what you like. The tire track width is the key. Do you want stock or kicked out, that will narrow it down. There are a ton of guys on here with all the lifts, all say good things. (for the most part) I don't think you can go wrong with CST, cognito, Pro Comp, RCD or ever Fab Tech. (I hear more trouble with fab tech and RCD than the others)
:grd:

Check out this article and see what you make of it. I am reading that he installed 1/2 ton springs. I could have missed something. What's the deal with the Deaver springs? Are these supposed to be top-notch?http://www.off-road.com/chevy/tech/duramax_pt1/ Sorry to hear about the law, but they are real ate up about that in WA for some reason. Could be envy or jealousy or both! At least you didn't get a ticket. Are you gonna put them on?

Yep, he says to use 1/2 tons. He also had to use air bags, now with dual foxes and bags this is a $4000+ kit, not including rims and tires. He sounds like an Orange County boy, don't know why he just didn't have Deaver make a new spring pack? Everyone I knew in OC used Deaver, they are a great company.
Like I said though, blocks are working better than I expected. I can't say I have had any trouble with them yet, not towing or off road. If I was out in Glamis and hit sand highway with some throttle I am sure there would be some problems, but the last time I did that I dented the rear of the cab with the bed! I won't be doing that anytime soon.
I think I'd keep my blocks over 1/2 ton springs ):h

Try the blocks, if you don't like them you can always order a sping set. Lots of the So Cal guys like to run without blocks (new springs) because it shows they spent more. They just refinance their house once a year to pay for all their toys.
If it looks good, rides good and performs good... why throw more money into it??? -:t

Hell no I am not putting flaps on my truck! If I get a ticket I will put some on, get it signed off and pull them off again. There is no way I am running flaps.