Im sick of paying transport companies to haul my cat th460b telehandler. it weighs about 25,000lbs. i want a 2500hd dmax but i know thats not gonna cut it. so what are my options?

MDT.

Mark

Probably looking at a Kodiak at a minimum.

Probably looking at a Kodiak at a minimum.

:exactly: 25k telehandler + trailer is definitely kodiak territory, possibly semi after you get a large enough trailer

get a peterbilt :)

I would get a used class 8- less money than a new 2500 or 3500 and much safer for that load!

:exactly: 25k telehandler + trailer is definitely kodiak territory, possibly semi after you get a large enough trailer

Kodiak only has a 26k GCWR iirc so they're out...hell the new 3500 dually would be a better bet with a rating of +28k.

That said, any pickup is gonna struggle with a 25k load as the trailer will weigh a few thousand on top of that and then there's passengers, tollbox etc..

Closest you'd get is a 08+ F450 PU with a GCWR of 33k but even then you're gonna be over and the 6.4 will struggle for sure on hills

best advice is get the teleaid weighed so you know EXACTLY how much it is and then weigh the trailer too or do them together but you have to know FOR SURE...if it is a genuine 25k then you're gonna need something bigger than a PU...I tow 23k inc trailer right now and I'm close to my GCWR

-Rob

Kodiak only has a 26k GCWR iirc so they're out...hell the new 3500 dually would be a better bet with a rating of +28k.

That said, any pickup is gonna struggle with a 25k load as the trailer will weigh a few thousand on top of that and then there's passengers, tollbox etc..

Closest you'd get is a 08+ F450 PU with a GCWR of 33k but even then you're gonna be over and the 6.4 will struggle for sure on hills

best advice is get the teleaid weighed so you know EXACTLY how much it is and then weigh the trailer too or do them together but you have to know FOR SURE...if it is a genuine 25k then you're gonna need something bigger than a PU...I tow 23k inc trailer right now and I'm close to my GCWR

-Rob

You could always look for an older C5500 or C6500. The GCWR can be much higher on those trucks. The next limitation may be the trailer rating, are there gooseneck trailers rated more than 25k? What about the gooseneck hitch/ball, isn't the B&W good for 30k?

In the end it may be cheaper to find a used Peterbilt and go from there, knowing you won't be close to your rated capacities and have power to spare.

Just go buy a used class 7/8 tractor, a flatbed trailer, and do it right. Used class 8 equipment can be had for a song so long as miles and cosmetics aren't near the top of your need-list.

Anything else will be marginal at best, probably more expensive, and dangerous at worst.

according to the spec sheet, it ways 23,148 pounds

http://www.ritchiespecs.com/specification?type=Lifting+%26+Material+Handling&category=Telescopic+Forklift&make=Caterpillar&model=TH460B&modelid=94448

I pull my cat th 83 with an 01 dodge dually with a 50 hp Vanaaken chip. check it out on youtube. Best truck I ever owned!

I love to see things like this... makes me laugh!!!

my suggestion is just pay your sub hauler and be happy... just part of the cost of doing business my friend! you WONT save money doing it yourself!! trust me. its what I do for a living!!

believe me, a couple hundred per move is totally worth not having the headache of being a registered motor carrier and all the associated cost that comes with it!!
if you think your lowbed guy is putting the screws to ya on the bill, just find another guy and compare!!

...and don't think that by going with an (overloaded) MDT that you're going to escape licencing and regulatory fees - you'll still need a CDL (the only think you might save on is the airbrake endorsement) and your truck will still need to be registered as a commercial truck the same as a class-8 setup.

After you've done all that and somehow manage to cobble together a MDT setup that will actually handle that weight, expect to have a huge target painted on your truck as every DOT and super-trooper in your area pulls you over at ever opportunity to see that all your ducks are in a row.

So...get a class 8 setup of your own and do it right, or continue to pay someone else to do it. Depending on how often you move the equipment one may be cheaper then the other, but you'll have to has that out yourself.

Get a used single axle tractor and a fifth wheel trailer with beavertail/ramps. Get a trailer with 17.5 or 19.5 tires. This will be the least costly long term solution plus will be decent in city traffic /jobsites.

Framing Contractor or Masonary Contractor?

I have a Terex SS842. Weighs in at 22,500 lbs. There isn't a gooseneck out there that I have been able to find with that kind of weight capability. I hire to have mine hauled. One trucker came in here one day to haul it for me. His low boy had a cheap wood deck floor. I believe the guy had just done it himself. I warned him of the wieght of the unit. He seemed offended of my warning him. Once on the trailer you could hear all of the wood cracking. He had to get some metal straps and lay them side by side under the tires to hold the weight. These lifts are not light. In my opinion when it comes to hauling them, you need to be big or go home. Too much at stake... for me anyway.

I have a Terex SS842. Weighs in at 22,500 lbs. There isn't a gooseneck out there that I have been able to find with that kind of weight capability. I hire to have mine hauled. One trucker came in here one day to haul it for me. His low boy had a cheap wood deck floor. I believe the guy had just done it himself. I warned him of the wieght of the unit. He seemed offended of my warning him. Once on the trailer you could hear all of the wood cracking. He had to get some metal straps and lay them side by side under the tires to hold the weight. These lifts are not light. In my opinion when it comes to hauling them, you need to be big or go home. Too much at stake... for me anyway.


thats what we refer to as a gypo ("jip-o") trying to do the job for less by cutting corners... he probably had a pine deck since the Apitong that we use is super expensive and some guys thing the cheap shit from home depot will work just the same LOL!! love it makes me laugh!!

Hi guys. I am new to this forum, so please excuse my ignorance concerning chevy products. Concerning hauling my telehandler, I really do pull it with my 01 dodge dually--(on youtube punch in "dodge dually pulling serious weight") and you will see my truck and my clip. My trailer is a 35' gooseneck with two 15,000 lb axles. B/c it is for personal use I do not have to register it with DOT.

On another subject I bought an 04 burb and a written off 04 duramax truck-- I am going to be putting the diesel in the burb. If you have any suggestions for me, please, I am all ears...

I am Canadian so perhaps the rules here for pulling are different than by most of you. Thanks for your time and please do be patient with me as I try to figure out how to use this forum. Thanks again.

Hi guys. I am new to this forum, so please excuse my ignorance concerning chevy products. Concerning hauling my telehandler, I really do pull it with my 01 dodge dually--(on youtube punch in "dodge dually pulling serious weight") and you will see my truck and my clip. My trailer is a 35' gooseneck with two 15,000 lb axles. B/c it is for personal use I do not have to register it with DOT.

On another subject I bought an 04 burb and a written off 04 duramax truck-- I am going to be putting the diesel in the burb. If you have any suggestions for me, please, I am all ears...

I am Canadian so perhaps the rules here for pulling are different than by most of you. Thanks for your time and please do be patient with me as I try to figure out how to use this forum. Thanks again.

Either you're breaking the law there and don't know it, or they're very different from here.

Either you're breaking the law there and don't know it, or they're very different from here.

He's breaking several laws and clearly doesn't know it. Laws are different up here, yes, but commercial regs still apply beyond certain limits or stipulations and a LOT of people are unaware of when they cross that line.

Clearly this is a case of such.

NO offense guys, but I am not breaking the laws. In my province, the provincial rules trump federal rules. I stopped at the scales and talked to the officers there and as long as my weight does not exceed the weight rating of the tires I am legal!!! I can even carry the machine with a 75 % road ban in the spring thaw!!

1/ What are you using the zoom boom for?

2/ What class of Licence do you have?

I do not use it for commercial purposes!! I will leave it at that! :) There is a reason I live in the West--and NOT leftist Ontario! :):) Government intrusion does not sit well with us here. I have a class 5.

I do not use it for commercial purposes!! I will leave it at that! :)

Uhuh. I'm all ears on what you use a zoomboom for that falls into non commercial use...because you know if you make a dime with it anywhere, any time you fall under commercial rules...right? That's what the smilie face is for?

There is a reason I live in the West--and NOT leftist Ontario! :):) Government intrusion does not sit well with us here. I have a class 5.

What province?

get a peterbilt :)

Hmm, I may even know someone w/ one for sale...........

(hint, hint: look below :cool: )

I have a Terex SS842. Weighs in at 22,500 lbs. There isn't a gooseneck out there that I have been able to find with that kind of weight capability.

Huh, a Big Tex 3XGN is one of many gooseneck trailers with a rating of 30,000 and Reese do a 30k rated GN too, works great mine is used weekly at over 20k on the site...trailer weighs 6,200-8,600k depending on length

-Rob

Huh, a Big Tex 3XGN is one of many gooseneck trailers with a rating of 30,000 and Reese do a 30k rated GN too, works great mine is used weekly at over 20k on the site...trailer weighs 6,200-8,600k depending on length

-Rob

If the trailer is rated for that weight... a trailer weighing at 8600lbs with a 22500lb unit is still over loaded. Finding a trailer may be possible... but you should pull it with a truck larger than a 3500.

If the trailer is rated for that weight... a trailer weighing at 8600lbs with a 22500lb unit is still over loaded. Finding a trailer may be possible... but you should pull it with a truck larger than a 3500.

Fully aware of that...that's why I included trailer weights too...never heard of a teleaid needing a trailer longer than 26' +5 so 6,200+22,500 means one is perfectly legal bud...:)

but yes, a 3500 (even the 2011 Duallys) aren't the best choice for such a weight unless you're on farm land

...and don't think that by going with an (overloaded) MDT that you're going to escape licencing and regulatory fees - you'll still need a CDL (the only think you might save on is the airbrake endorsement) and your truck will still need to be registered as a commercial truck the same as a class-8 setup.

After you've done all that and somehow manage to cobble together a MDT setup that will actually handle that weight, expect to have a huge target painted on your truck as every DOT and super-trooper in your area pulls you over at ever opportunity to see that all your ducks are in a row.

So...get a class 8 setup of your own and do it right, or continue to pay someone else to do it. Depending on how often you move the equipment one may be cheaper then the other, but you'll have to has that out yourself.

I agree, At work we pull a 17,500lb excavator with a dually duramax every day and we get brought to the scales regulary. Most of our work is in the city where you're starting and stopping... so we're on our 3rd set of rear tires on a truck with 20,000 miles on it