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Diesel Tech
01-14-2004, 11:27 AM
Here are some photo's of the old LB7 ECM and the new LLY ECM. You will see in the photo's how we get started with developing the code by disassembling the ECM and traceing out the circuts.


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/4DD_ECU4.jpg





http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/8C1_ECU2.jpg





http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/2DE_ECU3.jpg


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/3BC_ECU1.jpgEdited by: Diesel Tech

DIESEL 5
01-14-2004, 11:48 AM
ummm, very interesting


Is that a coke can in the second picture http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

Ray403Dmax
01-14-2004, 11:53 AM
Good thing the ESD police aren't checking you out, as electronics on paper and carpet is a no-no.

sdaver
01-14-2004, 11:55 AM
HOPE THATS MY EXTREME ECU YOUR WORKING ONhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

DIESEL 5
01-14-2004, 11:59 AM
Hey,


You wait in line dude http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Stern Smile.gif

Mackin
01-14-2004, 12:04 PM
HOPE THATS MY EXTREME ECU YOUR WORKING ONhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

Tugging on Supermans cape .....

Are you sure Superman your gonna jump on the other side of the fence ??

Lone Ranger http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif

DIESEL 5
01-14-2004, 12:07 PM
Mac,


I like your new signature http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Up.gif


Sdaver,


Come and join us here on the "Left Coast" http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif

OC_DMAX
01-14-2004, 12:10 PM
LB7 vs LLY - Probably 3 times the processing power in half the volume (a guess), Moores Law at work here.

Diesel Tech
01-14-2004, 12:21 PM
Good thing the ESD police aren't checking you out, as electronics on paper and carpet is a no-no.





Was wondering if anyone would notice, I just couln't find the proper lighting to take the pictures anywhere else. I'm not to good with the camera so I had to send the pictures to Nick and have him make them pretty so I could post them, thanks Nick.

hoot
01-14-2004, 12:53 PM
Looks like Dr. Pepper to me.

Thanks for the great pics! Interesting stuff. Smaller and most likely more powerful.

DMax_Doug
01-14-2004, 12:55 PM
I guess this means your LLY has arrived???


Doug

MonteCarlo31
01-14-2004, 01:35 PM
Ok you got my interest peaked, I am getting a 04 LLY Regular cab and am hoping to have mods by the time I buy in late april early may, any chances????



Lenny

Ray403Dmax
01-14-2004, 07:39 PM
Sorry, I forgot to say thanks for the photos. It's always slick to see how time shrinks things while still adding functionality. Now if they could just reduce the LLY engine by the same proportions. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Diesel Tech
01-14-2004, 08:06 PM
It's nice that things continue to get smaller but it's to the point my old eyes are having a hard time traceing everything out so I hope it doesn't get much smaller! As far as when I'm done with perfomance mods on the LLY I don't know. We already have the exhaust done but the code may take awhile. So far I know that there is twice the memory as before and a different processor used in the LLY unit. So I've got plenty of work for awhile.

BIG DIPPER
01-14-2004, 08:51 PM
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/Z21_Optimism.jpg

sdaver
01-14-2004, 09:27 PM
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/645_beavis.jpgdude that had to hurt........which one?Edited by: sdaver

Mike L.
01-14-2004, 09:59 PM
BIG DIPPER


You are a bad man.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif Try that on the nazis on the page.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif. NOT http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

GMC-2002-Dmax
01-14-2004, 10:14 PM
Where is my delete key http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


It is pushing the envelope, but I see no nudity, as long as Steve doesn't mind you hi-jacked his thread http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif





Thttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gifNY

Tank
01-14-2004, 10:27 PM
That's greathttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

Mike L.
01-14-2004, 11:01 PM
Tony


I see pure nudity. lol Think Mac might hammer the DIPPER? Maybe if he stops laughing.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

flhrciblueice
01-14-2004, 11:03 PM
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/Z21_Optimism.jpg


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


That's a good one dipper!

nwpadmax
01-14-2004, 11:34 PM
In the good old days, when the talk turned to how much smaller our microprocessors are getting with age, someone would throw in some almost naked chicks to make us feel better. Visual therapy, if you will.


Now we have cartoons with gender-questionable animals having what appears to be an unmentionable encounter.


Hmm. Someone out there HAS to be offended.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

BIG DIPPER
01-15-2004, 06:11 AM
nwpadmax,


I believe Nick has started a complaint part to the bb.....I believe it is


www.SORRYBOUTYOURLUCK.com (http://www.SORRYBOUTYOURLUCK.com) http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Mackin
01-15-2004, 06:17 AM
What I see is a dog stuck in a trap and a fellow brother trying to pull his azz out out of the trap .... Why do you guys see it as anything different ??


It's all in the perception ....





Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifEdited by: Mackin

sdaver
01-15-2004, 07:00 AM
yea pull his azz out from the inside..........kinda like the undercurrent that flows hidden from the public eye

GPtimes2
01-15-2004, 10:23 AM
I'm not sure how clean your trying to keep things, but that ain't clean! It's not borderline and he ain't pulling or he would be standing a little farther away. I'am not intending that this be taken as a complaint. Only to say life is full of things that are found amusing an offensive at the same time and to add an oppinion as to how to label it. I apreciate and enjoy this site, and want to say thanks for letting me share my perspective. http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif

Mackin
01-15-2004, 11:10 AM
I'm not sure how clean your trying to keep things, but that ain't clean! It's not borderline and he ain't pulling or he would be standing a little farther away. I'am not intending that this be taken as a complaint. Only to say life is full of things that are found amusing an offensive at the same time and to add an oppinion as to how to label it. I apreciate and enjoy this site, and want to say thanks for letting me share my perspective. http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif





Haven't you heard of "choking" up ?? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


Steve Cole should be upset Dipper hyjacked his thread ...





None the less ,anyone feel slighted or offensed by the Wolf helping the dog out of a jam the way I see it lemme know ... It's you potty minds that see it perverse ...





Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gifEdited by: Mackin

Mike L.
01-15-2004, 12:52 PM
Mack


It's not Steve Cole that should be asked how he feels, it's the poor pooch that is being ( shall we say) helped.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

sdaver
01-15-2004, 03:25 PM
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/Z21_Optimism1.jpg

it has been reported this picture might be considered offensive
from my vantage point the fox is just helping the wolf outEdited by: sdaver

nwpadmax
01-15-2004, 03:40 PM
Hmm....that's MUCH better.....cartoon girl carrying a couple grapefruits http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Mackin
01-15-2004, 03:45 PM
Carefull carefull boys lets not


I see that citrus burning that puppys wounds once the Fox frees him








Edited by: Mackin

nwpadmax
01-15-2004, 03:48 PM
Oh yeah, almost forgot....


Dipper, I was being completely sarcastic.....keep em comin.


I heard there's another site for whiners..... www.getadoggonelife.com (http://www.getadoggonelife.com)


Hey Mac, remember that pic of the 2 gals you posted on that infamous closed thread, the one with the poor gal with her shorts all yanked up to her chest.....


I bet the other girl was just there to help her with that. What a good friend.


It is all a matter of perspective. http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Mike L.
01-15-2004, 04:06 PM
Just a question about my observation on Dippers cartoon. Why are the foxes toes dug in instead of his heels? You know, inquireing minds and all that.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Amric
01-15-2004, 07:05 PM
So back on topic.....Somewhat:


Diesel Tech,


Why is the TCM so much harder to program than the ECM? Ever thought of giving up the ability to control shift firmness, RPM, and torque convertor lockup?

Diesel Tech
01-15-2004, 11:43 PM
It's not that it's any harder to work on the code in the TCM. It has been more of a different problem with the 2001 - 2004 LB7 units. Since the shift firmness control is not controlled by the ECM but by the transmission itself we worked with TransGo and developted the trans upgrade kit and converter. We knew there was little to be gained in the TCM. The shift points are pretty good right where GM has them! Now that we have finished that development and everyone is useing the kit we help develop I know we did the right thing.


Now on the new LLY trans control is back into the TCM we will spend the time to figure out the code and do upgrades useing the TCM and see what it can handle that way. So there's alot of work ahead for our new truck but we will get it done.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Diesel Tech
02-02-2004, 12:49 PM
Here is what the insides of the ECM look like on the LLY.


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/975_lly_ecm_board1.jpg


NOw my old eyes are in for a bunch of work!