I have a SWB 6’ bed, what are you guys paying to have the LineX sprayed in?

410$ over the rail here!

$500 for 8' bed and rear wheel wells on the dually:eek:

Had mine done last saturday morning, $470 for over-the-rail shortbed. Plus they did a half-ass job so it needs to go back to get fixed. Major overspray on the front of the bed, only half way sprayed in the stake pockets, and the passengers side is not straight where they masked it off. Had the same shop spray my '95 Chevy a couple years ago and they did a great job, but this time I saw they had some young punk-looking kid whose face was all pierced up doing the work. Maybe he partied too hard friday night... :mad: Also, be sure to print out the $20 coupon off of Line-X's website to save a few more dollars.

Get work done by LINEX shop. Having it done by a mobile LINEX shop at the dealer or some where else usually cost more.

$409 OTD. 6' bed and over the rails.

Turbotug,
Where in Phx did you have it done?

They want $459 here (Not over the rails).

Drew

I give 359.00 here for a short box OTR. Best looking job I'd ever seen and very pleased. Not sure if thats his normal price or what, but judging by whats being posted, I got a hell of a deal

My Stealership asked $400 as part of a new vehicle purchase. I went to the LineX dealer and he did it for $350 OTR. I have had 3 veh. done by this guy and all turned out great. Sounds as if $350 is doing good - no taxes here though.

My boss got his CC SB 4x4 shot by Linux for 200 bucks. I don't know if it was over the rail but I will find out. We do a lot of business with them so it may have been a thank you job but I was told I get the same deal. Too late for me as mine is done over the rail and I paid 410. :eek: :eek: :mad:

Mine was about $450 for the short bed over the rail. When I had it done, they had a coupon on their website for $25 off. I went and looked but can't find it now. First purchase on every truck I get now.

Paid $430 under the rail for a short bed last week.

I paid $425 for mine a couple years ago for OTR. I also had them take of the tailgate guard and spray linex there to match the old plastic guard. It looked awesome and was free.

$400 under the rails - My local dealer did a 1st class job.

If your truck has LineX (or somethig similar) can you go back and have "chips" or wear points filled in? There are a couple spots in mine that look dug out. What do you think this would cost?

Thanks

If your truck has LineX (or somethig similar) can you go back and have "chips" or wear points filled in? There are a couple spots in mine that look dug out. What do you think this would cost?

Thanks
I think that is part of the warranty. Line-X claims a "life time", but I have yet to test what that means.

Dealer that sprayed on my Line-x said they would repair any chip/scrap/pop-off that might happen. He said he has only had to do one repair and that was on a 5-wheel spray job that took some rugged abuse. He said this warrenty was good at ANY Line-x dealer nation wide. Just need to have my warrenty with me. I too have yet to need it but nice to know if I do.

Ah..but this is a used truck. No warranty info included when purchased. I'll just have to let my wife take it up to the LineX dealer (Ziebart) so she can sweet-talk them. Thanks for the info guys.

Gotta admit, this spray in liner is tough stuff.

I'm a LINE-X dealer.

The warranty states it's only for the original owner. But, I can tell you that most dealers, including myself, don't care if you're the original owner or not, they're going to fix any LINE-X bedliner if it has a problem.

The warranty is a written nationwide lifetime warranty. You can view the warranty on at the LINE-X website. Look on the left side of the screen. www.goline-x.com

LINE-X non-fading color matches:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/123Gone/silver6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/123Gone/red1.jpg

I got the dealer to do it on my new '05 2500HD SB, I went over the rail and I got them to do it for $350. (most of the other dealers would only go to $395.)
My 04 HD had the same liner and it was $380 from the LineX guy. (Irvine, CA) It pays to call around, the closest LineX guy to me wanted $460, drove 10 minutes and saved $80. (there are a lot of guys doing liners in So Cal though)

The problem with my new truck is that LineX over-sprayed my whole truck, dumb Censored 's! When I picked it up it looked great but felt like crap, now the dealer has to buff out my whole truck. I'll wait a few weeks and then bring it in for a free detail ):h

Yea, he must be a new dealer...lowers the price, does a crappy job. You get what you pay for.

The Chevy dealer is the one that lowered the price. (they still made money on it) As for the over spray, ever seen the guys that work at the Linex places? (who actually do the work) Not exactly brain surgeons ;)
What do you expect for $7 an hour!

ALL Linex companies will lower their price, in So Cal the car dealers ALL pay under $300 for the liners. (then they add $495+ to the price of the truck) Anyone can work a deal with those liner guys, go in with CASH and talk to the owner.

The cost of material is very little. Linex is a good gig, too bad the franchise agreement they make you sign in nuts! I guess that is why they are in so many lawsuits with their dealers. -:t I was very close to opening a shop, a little research killed that idea.

So, how much cost do you think there is?

The spray itself may not be all that expensive per truck, but the spray rig is very expensive. I know the guys here in Baycity Mi, Do a hell of a good job. Also they own,and operate the store. I've watched them do two of my trucks now,and I couldn't ask for a more thorough job.

Well, I'm a LINE-X dealer, I know exactly what what everything costs. Funny how people think LINE-X is cheap, probably because most of the other brands are cheap (because they use inexpensive 100% polyurethane that comes out of an unmarked barrel). The LINE-X product is expensive, probably the most expensive out there. Why, because of what it's made out of and where it comes from. You can buy a Lexus or a Hyundai, both will get you across town, it just depends on how you want to take the ride.

aquaelvis: Sounds like you should have spent more time doing your research.

$400 OTR, with LineX

Truckdaddy, I have a whole file full of notes, that was when I was in CA, now I am up in WA. I was talking to the Linex dist in CA about getting a franchise up here. All that stuff is packed away.
I don't remember the numbers off the top of my head but they were pretty low. Low enough for me to give NICE deals to the dealerships up here and still make money. The equipment is not cheap, I think it was like $6k for a spray rig all decked out. There were also used ones for $2k. (taken back from dealers who could not keep up with Linex's franchise agreement)
I have 100's of pages in those files, copies of franchise agreements, copies of lawsuits, notes from my attorney and others, etc, etc, etc.
My post was not a slam on linex, I had linex put in my truck AGAIN. I just pointed out that there is money there to knock off the price, and if you are a dealer... you know that better than I do.
Of course the material is just one part, there is over-head, etc, etc, etc but with high over0head there usually comes high traffic. (high dollar real estate is in high dollar areas)
Linex is a kick ass liner, much better than most. On the business end, it is not an agreement I would sign. (nor would any of the 3-4 lawyers I spoke to) If you are a dealer, you know what has been going on. (for years! did they ask you to sign the new contract, or was that before your time?)
If you are a dealer and you stay in their good graces, you are OK. God help you if that changes.
Anyway, sorry you got your wads in a bunch, I was just telling it like it is. There is money in liners... PERIOD. Why should that bother you? Are you worried that more people will ask for deals? Won't be able to buy as much Linex product as last year :badidea:

OK, no flames. I guess my idea and your idea of a lot of money are two different things. I have to spray a lot of trucks to earn a decent profit. Sure, most LINE-X dealers can and will discount, but LINE-X is most likely THE most expensive bedliner out there and we can't spray the product at some of our competitor's prices and develop a viable business.

I would not sign the standard franchise agreement either. I had my attorney change some things and LINE-X agreed to most of them. I agree that you need to stay in their good graces. That benefits the public as well as other LINE-X dealers. I'm glad corporate has a method to shut down operations that are not up to the agreed upon standards.

It sounds like perhaps your experience with LINE-X was several years ago. LINE-X has definitely evolved and has changed a LOT in the last couple of years. They hired some big guns, they have worked directly with Dupont to produce a new product called LINE-X Xtra, there are regional and local meetings now, they have a very generous co-op reimbursment program, etc., etc. For 2005, Entrepreneur Magazine ranks LINE-X #56 in the overall top 500 franchises and #1 in the automotive catagory. Frost & Sullivan is an international marketing consulting company that monitors the automotive industry for market trends, market measurements and strategies. Here are their market share numbers (based on volume of product sprayed) for 2004:

Line-X- 37%
Rhino- 26.5%
Ultimate Lining- 19.5%
Speed Liner- 4.2%
Everyone Else- 12.7%

For 2003:
Rhino- 31.5%
Line-X- 26%
Ultimate Lining- 12.3%
Speed Liner- 11.8%
Others- 17.8%

I was talking to the local guy (OTR $460) and he has been spraying for 13 years or something but has not purchased a franchise. He doesnt want to (Heck for a $400 price tag I want him to) but he says some of the chemists who developed the product origionally left when they got bought and started their own company? Ultimate? I cant remember.... anyhow he will not spray my door sills no matter what the money is like and won't discount... I dunno if I can swing them.... May get another Rhino...


Drew

P.S. No franchise means no national warranty!

Drew, I'm not sure if your saying the guy is a LINE-X guy, but,

The original company was Burtin Corporation. They manufactured polyurethane foam spray and other products of the like. Later, they started the LINE-X branch for truck bedliners. Then, the original company made a smart move, they sold the company to BASF, which is a HUGE company and one of the very few companies that manufacture the raw materials needed for bedliner products. Part of the deal was that BASF only makes LINE-X for and will only provide LINE-X to the LINE-X corporate entity and will produce LINE-X according to LINE-X's specification. This was a smart move because of the BASF's raw materials aspect as well as their final product production capacity. I heard, and perhaps a Rhino dealer can chime in, that last year, Rhino had a problem obtaining raw materials and that they had to use a filler product that rendered some bad bedliners. Anyway, the Burtin family still owns LINE-X today.

Buy whatever makes you happy, it's good to have choices!

I was quoted $510 for OTR on a shortbed. Does anybody know of a place in eastern NY, Ct, or Northern NJ that can do better?

I'm getting mine done on the 16th for $495 OTR. They are color matching my truck for $150 more so it will look factory.

cruznis300: Can't wait to see pics!!!

Posted in another thread about Viper. Anyone know anything? I can get my truck done OTR for $299 with a Lifetime guarantee.

Yea, I think I am also on that other forum. Viper is a polyurethane/polyurea bedliner like LINE-X. However, the technical specifications are not as good as LINE-X's. I've seen Viper several times. If the dealer sprays a good job, Viper looks good when it's new. After about three months, things change. They may have a topcoat available now though. I know of a Dodge dealer that tried Viper (because it was cheap). The dealer did a bad job and the Dodge dealer ask Viper to come fix the truck. They never showed up. Interesting: Viper dealers do not have territories, it's a total free for all. Viper dealers can be right next to each other and the company doesn't care.

TruckDaddy,

The guy who runs the Viper shop here used to have 3 LineX dealerships. He says the products are almost identical with the exception being the dye they put in to keep it from fading too much. He says there is no need for a top coat. He says he has independent lab tests showing Viper has a higher PSI rating (1800 for LineX and 2200 for Viper) and a better elasticity (150% for LineX and 220% for Viper). I don't want to start any wars but what are your thoughts on this?

Thanks.

I sent you a PM first before I realized you posted here. I'll repeat the information below:

I have technical specifications of Viper VP-2200, their polyurethane/polyurea bedliner product. Tensile strength and elasticity are the least critical factors when comparing bedliners. Any brand that uses polyurethane and polyurea will have WAY more elasticity and tensile strength than is needed for a truck bedliner. The numbers are interesting, but go way beyond what is needed.
1. The tensile strength of LINE-X is 1,800 psi, Viper is 2,200. Tensile strength is pulling strength. All bedliner brands, including Rhino, LINE-X, Viper, Speedliner, etc. have WAY more tensile strength that is needed. Your literally talking one ton of stretch strength. Bedliners will NEVER be stretched to that capacity.
2. A better test of "strength" as far as bedliners is tear strength. Viper is 280 pli (pounds per linear inch) and LINE-X is 304 pli. The top three problems with bedliners that people incur are fading, tearing, and peeling (not stretching).
3. Elongation: LINE-X is 115%, Viper is 220%. Again, bedliners will never be pulled to their capacity. All bedliners have excellent elongation. A 50% elongation factor would be plenty for a truck bed. Remember, the application of the product is sprayed in a static host. (It virtually does not move).
4. Two important factors )(other than tear strength) when comparing bedliners is abrasion and temperature tolerance. Unfortunately, my Viper info does not show either.
5. Fading: To this date, I've never seen a Viper liner that had not faded. They fade faster than Rhino but they don't get as gray as Rhino.
6. Warranty: The Viper warranty is only with the dealer that sprayed it. LINE-X gives you a written nationwide lifetime warranty that is backed by LINE-X corporate.
7. Chemicals: LINE-X uses raw materials from BASF Corporation which is absolute top notch quality and you will not find anyone who would dispute that. I do not know where Viper gets or buys their chemicals from. Viper is owned by Polyurethane Sales & Service, LLC. You might want to find out from them.

Hey, buy whatever you think is best for you. It's good to have choices. LINE-X is a proven product. Right now, Ford, Nissan, and Honda are testing LINE-X for their trucks. Yep, I said Honda. They are having problems with their Ridgline composite beds. LINE-X sprayed 6 Ridglines for Honda Corporate last week.

GOOD LUCK!
Let me know if you have any questions.

Just had mine done last Saturday the 6th, 500 OTR 6.5 bed. Guess the prices are ALOT higher here on the east coast. Called around and that was the cheapest. Prices went into the 700.00 range!! Excellent job though, 0 complaints with the application. The guy who sprays there use to spray in a body shop so the lines/job are perfect, O overspray.
Line-X of Western Connecticut (http://www.linexofdanbury.com/)