I was just woundering if there was any problems with running marked diesel, other than being against the law..

Nothing wrong whatsoever, until you get caught. Of course, I wouldn't want that dye going though my injectors...

never know it could lube them and make them last longer:grd:

Some off-road diesel has a higher sulfur content, supposedly, so if your truck has a cat the high sulfur load could mess with that. Otherwise, no problems except the inordinate fine imposed if the "man" sees red in your tank.

what is a "marked Diesel"?

what is a "marked Diesel"?

Off-Road Diesel

I was just woundering if there was any problems with running marked diesel, other than being against the law..

While at the fuel island of our local Farmer's Co-Op, a tanker pulled up and filled both the regular diesel and off-road diesel tanks. I asked the driver was there any quality difference in the two fuels.

His response was no... both fuels come from the same fuel distributor/supplier and the only difference is the dye. He also said that the new high tech diesel farm machinery needs high quality fuel to run properly. Made me think of getting some yellow cans for my own off-road supply.

He then reminded me that using dyed fuel "on-road" was illegal. Oh well, a 40 to 50 cent per gallon discount sounded good while it lasted.

:o:
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The fines that can go along with this are to steep to even do it.. Although it is cheaper if you purchase from the correct places and can get it, here in Texas if you get caught they fine you 10K... They can take your truck and suspend your license if they feel like it... Not a good idea IMO...

Seriously newbies, how about you read through the forum just one tiny little bit? This same subject pops up every single week. How many times can we say same fuel, big fines, your decision?

Maybe I'm being harsh, but seeing this same subject in a new thread every other day is beginning to irritate me.


And to respond to one thing:

Nothing wrong whatsoever, until you get caught. Of course, I wouldn't want that dye going though my injectors...

It's just dye, not very much even. A small amount of it colors a lot of fuel.

We have several tractors with over 12000 hours on them with off road fuel... I can't see how it would hurt it. Neither have had injectors done or injection pump.

_nar_

The injector comment was for ifetchen's sake... Said tongue in cheek, though I guess that didn't come across in the original post.

The "problem" with newbies is that they are NEW. Might not understand that there is a search function, or how to use it effectively.
As a community it takes patience to welcome the new members with the same old questions. But I think those members who find it irritating to see the same old questions should just skip over those topics. Leave it for someone else to respond to those same old questions.
As for cheeky's question, I noticed that everyone who replied is from the USA, yet cheeky is from BC Canada. He might be looking for assurances specific to diesel in Canada, and I have no idea what the fine level and likelihood are for the infraction up there.
I'll stick with the on-road stuff myself. But I have to wonder why someone hasn't "invented" an additive that will break down the off road dye and make it easier to cheat. As diesel prices continue to climb, I suspect more and more people are tempted to cheat the government of the tax portion of diesel fuel.
Jim

Now, lets see. If we didn't go over the same topics from time to time we wouldn't have anything to talk about. I started over on the the ********** forum before this was started. There are very few new topics posted that I haven't seen. There are a lot of early members on this forum that very seldom post. I will not tell you what I think of the search engine. Give the new guys an answer or skip the topic. Later! Frank

PS: I did not sensor the name above. It seems this forum is turning into what folks didn't like about the other forum. Now I see why some of the original members here aren't posting.

Huh? Censor me? For sticking up for the new guy?
I'm missing something here.

No, Frank was not talking about you..he was talking about the link that is censored (the one he posted).
No worries man

The site you mentioned censored this site so this site decided to censor them. I wont go into any more politics than that.

whats hard about putting "dye" into the little part that says search? I found numerous hits. If there is something that makes it difficult for a noob to navigate or you see some way for the search feature to be used please let the mods know frank. It will make life easier on everyone. No flames intended :)

In my experience on previous boards, it comes down to two things:
1. They don't have the time to spend an hour going through all the old threads.
2. Asking questions is the only way to interact with members since they don't know anyone yet and don't have the knowledge to respond to other people's questions.

To the people who have been around awhile, they seem like stupid questions, but to people new to the site, it's vital information. I have used the search feature to look up a couple questions I have had, but I don't spend a great deal of time doing it because I like the direct interaction with the members. I don't know enough about diesels yet to answer a whole lot of questions, so if I looked everything up and never asked questions, no on would ever know who I was. After I have been here awhile, you will see that I am willing to help anyone with problems even if I have already helped several people with the same problem. I have detailed repair instructions with pictures that I put together and have emailed to over 50 people on how to replace ball joints on a Dakota. I guess what I am saying is that if you see a thread that says, "What kind of mileage can I expect from my Duramax?" Just go down to the next topic and resist the urge the ream the new guy. If no one answers the question, they will get the message.

No flames taken. Later! Frank

:rant:
Interaction is good. But actually reading through and learning something is good too. I read for a couple months before I ever posted. I didn't want to look foolish for repeating things that had been beaten to death. Now most times I leave threads alone like your example of mileage. But when people ask the same question that they could have read that very same day in another thread, then that is too much. I hit new posts the day I saw this one and read another thread already talking about red fuel. Then I saw this one and I'm thinking "wow they can't even bother to post in the current topic about the exact same subject" and I wrote an irritated post. I mean come on guys, yes we need to interact and discuss things to learn anything, but can't we put a tiny bit of effort into it? :exactly: At least look through the first couple pages of new posts and see if the subject you want to discuss is being talked about already. It only takes a minute and then feel free to start a new thread. :thumb:

Good point nar. I guess I forgot a third option: 3. Too lazy to look through recent threads.

I usally search a topic as you might notice, I only have 40 posts, and I login here at least once a day. The only reason I did this topic again was for some quick one to one answers. I did a quick welding job for my buddy and in return he paid me with either GAS,GRASS or ASS . I pick the gas:) {marked diesel]. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to screw anything up. I love this site there is tons of useful info and you sure can find some great deals in the classifieds. Thanks Again for the help.:ro)

I assume since you didn't choose A$$, that your buddy is not a female? If it is a guy, I would think twice about going camping with him for even offering that in the choices.:lol:

NO he's Not like that :) But Like most of us he wanted a job done cheap. And for a 2 min job for a full tank of diesel which cost about $100 bucks cnd or $83 bucks usd, I wasn't going to turn it down, Unless it would screw somthing up in my truck. Thanks again for the info.

Pretty sad state of affairs when "Gas" is worth more than "grass".. :)

Pretty sad state of affairs when "Gas" is worth more than "grass".. :)

I guess it relative to the individual. To me, 'gas' has always been worth more.:D

I guess it relative to the individual. To me, 'gas' has always been worth more.:D
But to a horse, a good quality alfalfa would be worth alot more.

The "problem" with newbies is that they are NEW. Might not understand that there is a search function, or how to use it effectively.
As a community it takes patience to welcome the new members with the same old questions. But I think those members who find it irritating to see the same old questions should just skip over those topics. Leave it for someone else to respond to those same old questions.
As for cheeky's question, I noticed that everyone who replied is from the USA, yet cheeky is from BC Canada. He might be looking for assurances specific to diesel in Canada, and I have no idea what the fine level and likelihood are for the infraction up there.
I'll stick with the on-road stuff myself. But I have to wonder why someone hasn't "invented" an additive that will break down the off road dye and make it easier to cheat. As diesel prices continue to climb, I suspect more and more people are tempted to cheat the government of the tax portion of diesel fuel.
Jim


Well not only is this question overplayed, it's also about illegal use of off-road fuel. No different than him coming on and asking "If I steal some money, is it cool as long as noone finds out?". Some people (people that don't fill their tanks with red fuel) get annoyed by it...