If you have ever had a PMD issue on any vehicle, including Hummer H1's that has the GM 6.5L Turbo Diesel that resulted in an accident, stalling or no start, please contact me. I have iniciated a NHTSA investigation with Bruce York and it appears it may lead to a huge recall, maybe one of GM's biggest. I almost crashed several times from failures on steep hills and windy roads drving my AM General H1 Hummer and lemme tell you, losing steering, power and brakes on a downgrade two lane steep windy road with your family is not fun. Please visit www.pmdfailures.com (http://www.pmdfailures.com) and also I have several very good attorneys that will be pursuing this. Stanadyne and GM and AM General ALL KNEW ABOUT THIS ISSUE but did they disclose this serious safety issue when you bought your truck? Have they come up with a reliable fix? NO!!!!! They need to once and for all fix this issue or buy your truck back, period!

Laurence Kaplan
America Search And Rescue

just about everybody had some problem with PMD when it goes out

Great, give me names and numbers and people please contact Bruce.York@dot.gov at NHTSA and give him details AND COMPLAIN. I am agressively pursuing this and will force GM / Stanadyne and AM General to fix the issue or pay for the issue. All parties have known about the SAFETY ISSUE since 1994 yet still sold vehicles knowing that they will stall. NOT COOL!

Interesting.Does that apply to outside US owners ?

I am sure it does. Email me at ***removed*** and Bruce York at ***removed*** and complain. Once and for all Stanadyne needs to fix the 500 million BAD PMD's out there before there is a serious accident. I have never had an accident in my life and the last few months I have almost caused two very bad ones when my PMD failed and get this, the NEW VERSION 3 GRAY PMD failed within two weeks of installation of another bad PMD/Pump. I am under disclosure to discuss issues prior to November of 2009 but please provide contact information and complain to the NHTSA!!!!!!! This time this PMD ISSUE WILL NOT BE MADE QUIET! TOO MANY ISSUES FOR TOO LONG. Buying a truck and not being told about a known safety issue IS FRAUD, NO MATTER WHAT WAY YOU LOOK AT IT!

Forum Moderator - PLEASE LEAVE THIS THREAD ON FOR A WHILE - THIS INVOLVES A HUGE SAFETY ISSUE AND I WANT TO SHARE SAFETY INFORMATION. This thread will most likely be watched by the NHTSA and Media.

Thank you,

Laurence J. Kaplan
America Search And Rescue

They extended the warranty to 120,000 miles and 11 years. Now you want them to do more? Geez, no wonder new cars and trucks cost so much.

Yes true DP, but I think what makes nvrescue so upset, is that GM and Stanadyne did not offer a true cure to the disease... even if they know how...

First, I want a fix, not a band aid by replacing it with the same faulty product THAT WILL FAIL AGAIN and that warranty DOES NOT apply to my H1 that has gone through 4 injection pumps only to GM vehicles. As mentioned I have already lost brakes down a hill and one failure almost made me have to hit parked cars versus hitting a car full of kids. Sorry, I am a very safe driver of 30 years WITH NO ACCIDENTS and this scared the you know what out of me and IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED! If you are happy with replacement defective parts more power to you, me I want a SAFE FIX for everyone!

Might want to get your info right on the site. In huge letters you list the years as 92-04. the electronic injection wasn't born until 94. If you want to be taken seriously, it helps to get your information correct.

Lastly, you want a fix? It's an electronic component. It hates heat. Guess what's in the engine bay? Heat and lots of it. Remove it from the engine bay and put it on a heatsink so it can shed the heat it creates and problem solved. Will it stop all failures, no. It's an electronic part, they fail, that's life. There's not one product out there that has 0 failures, period.

Actually it was developed in 1992 as per direct request by GM and an enourmous amount of pressure was put on Stanadyne to get it done hence why issues arose, not enough time to test and get the issues out of it. I believe you are right that first issues arose in 1994. My source is High Ranking GM ex employee now with AM General who gave me the history of GM PMD issues since he was part of it.

If you want to be taken seriously, it helps to get your information correct.

+1

And you might want to consider removing email addresses from public view, or at least munge them...they way you are posting them (in plain view, unmunged) all you are doing is serving up a nice fresh email address for the spambots to scoop up and inundate people with heaps of spam. Those on the receiving end might not be very pleased.

I have trucks with 300K on them and still going, and I have 3 trucks that cost over $100,000 each that have less than 100K miles on them that supposedly are the best of the best and they fail constantly due to the PMD issue and I am supposed to think that is OK because it is an electronic component? I am supposed to accept that I can kill someone at any time from a KNOWN STALLING ISSUE NOT FIXED Sorry, I just can't accept that. Hell, would you say that on an airplane with a component that causes the jets to stop and the plane come down? Same principal!

Actually it was developed in 1992 as per direct request by GM and an enourmous amount of pressure was put on Stanadyne to get it done hence why issues arose, not enough time to test and get the issues out of it. I believe you are right that first issues arose in 1994. My source is High Ranking GM ex employee now with AM General who gave me the history of GM PMD issues since he was part of it.

Don't know about your luck with PMDs but i got ~150K miles out of my factory PMD. I've had a Heath unit on my truck since then. I"m now at 190K miles.

Instead of demanding they "fix" it, fix it yourself with the solution that's been found to work. It's been over 15 years since the DS4 came out. It's now extinct save for the 6.5s on the road using it. GM doesn't care anymore. Hell they didn't care much when it was new obviously.

Stanadyne isn't the onyl supplier for PMDs. Dtech/flight systems/etc makes a much more advanced and properly built PMD, that stanadyne refused to make. Now stanadyne has come out with "the answer to all PMD issues" by copying Dtech's design. :rolleyes:

As for it being developed in 92, dont' know. Never looked that far into it.

Also what in the world are you driving that's worth $100K+ that's got a 6.5TD powerplant? If you want a permanent solution to the PMd problem, it's called a DB2 and mech injection. Problem solved, again. What you want is a hand out. you want someone to fix what can't be fixed. Electronics hate heat, period. Move it out of the engine bay and it'll last much much longer. That's the fix that you are so graciously demanding.

Dave is right. For Gawd's sake go buy yourself a heath PMD isolator and forget about it. We've known how to cure that little problem since 1994 when the PMD was first put on a GM production vehicle.

NOT issues arose in 1994. It was first USED in 1994.

BTW - replacing your IP when it's a PMD issue isn't very cost-effective. Just sayin'.

7 posts, all in this thread. Too bad you didn't look on any of a dozen websites before spending thousands to not fix your truck. Heck, even Steaksauce would have helped you out.

Dave is right. For Gawd's sake go buy yourself a heath PMD isolator and forget about it. We've known how to cure that little problem since 1994 when the PMD was first put on a GM production vehicle.

NOT issues arose in 1994. It was first USED in 1994.

BTW - replacing your IP when it's a PMD issue isn't very cost-effective. Just sayin'.

7 posts, all in this thread. Too bad you didn't look on any of a dozen websites before spending thousands to not fix your truck. Heck, even Steaksauce would have helped you out.

ROFLMAO!! Oh Jim, I've so missed your humor here. :D

I am all for that, already have relocated it with accurate diesel relocation kit, that is not the point here and by the way I have had 2 Gray PMD's fail already. The fact of the matter, this whole PMD is a safety issue and GM will care because they are still well within recall and that is about to happen. They should be double punished for NOT CARING! Sorry if my persistance to make it safer for people offends you but I save lives for a living and I do care and I see a HUGE issue that seems to constantly be brushed under the rug and I am SURE there has been accidents or deaths and am sure there have been lawsuits made quiet to avoid possible recalls. I have already put the US Government on notice and if they do not act and force GM and Stanadyne to answer and fix this properly and someone in the future gets hurt from a PMD issue it will not look to good for the NHTSA.

recall is 11 years, 120K miles. It's well known. Most 6.5Td are out of the warranty by either age or mileage by now. That's life.

Still sounds like you want a hand out for a part GM already recalled by the hundreds of thousands. Hell GM gave you a $1000 brand new injection pump WITH the replacement PMD. what more do you want, a written apology?

How many other vehicles stall out on the road due to a faulty part? hundreds of thousands. Hell in the days of carbs stalling wasn't grounds to go ape sh!t and demand things, it was just muttering "damn it" under your breathe and you restarted the vehicle and went on your way. Now restart you truck, fix the damn thing, and be on your way like the rest of us have done since 1994. That's really all there is to it. I've had my pickup stall many times. Bad PMD, bad ign switch, and bad optic sensor all in 3 years. You can still steer, and you can still stop. So here's an idea. Why not steer to the side of the road via armstrong steering and stop the vehicle.

FYI: The last three IP's were not paid for by me, just abor on 2 of them! Even new ones failed within weeks with new GRAY PMD in the desert heat. This post is out there for people that want to get the problem fixed and not on their dime and to make it safer for everyone what I think is funny is Stanadyne states the PMD runs hotter by 51 degrees (I have email from them) on a FSD Cooler. I am well aware of the NON STOCK RELOCATION FIX and have 3 H1's all of which have issues with PMD. as far as my H1's, the right fix is to go Mechanical but will not adhere to emissions!

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to hell with emissions. my DB2 blazer burns perfectly clean til i stomp it, and that's with a N/A diesel.

Your problem is as follows.

Desert heat + engine heat = death of PMD. Hell engine heat in general kills the PMD, it doesn't need the deserts help. You can live in a freezer and the engine bay heat will still kill the PMD.

The solution is as follows

Remote mount outside of engine bay. That way you'll have just Desert heat, instead of heatsoak in the engine bay.

The fix is to relocate it. I will not say it again, I'll just shut this broken record down.

It's your choice to take our advice or not. I'd suggest you take it though. It'll save you money in the long run, or perhaps even in the short run.

GM started using the DS pump in 94. Really does not matter when it was created.

I don't really pity anyone with a Hummmer either. Most over rated vehicle on the road. Anyone with a diesel in that heavy bucket of scrap iron gets what they deserve. Glad they were discontinued.

PMDs can fail from other sources to. Maybe yours has issues that are causing them to burn out.

For the umptinth time, MY VEHICLE(s) ARE NOT COVERED UNDER GM WARRANTY SINCE THEY ARE AM GENERAL yet it has the GM 6.5TD ISSUES. No I want GM to find a safe fix for everyone, I am done responding it is becoming a tit for tat, over a safety issue. I dont care if its 20 years old or 1 year old, there are millions of vehicles with this issue, maybe when a relative of yours or yourself or some kid you see gets killed by an inexperienced driver that has a stallingfailure happen and does not know how to stop his or her vehicle and plows into a mother with her kids you may take another attitude. Just because there is an aftermarket temporary fix does not make it right or safer. It may extend the life of a poorly designed component. Personally, I think the controller should have been designed to be inside the vehicle like some PCM's.

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For the umptinth time, MY VEHICLE(s) ARE NOT COVERED UNDER GM WARRANTY SINCE THEY ARE AM GENERAL yet it has the GM 6.5TD ISSUES. No I want GM to find a safe fix for everyone, I am done responding it is becoming a tit for tat, over a safety issue. I dont care if its 20 years old or 1 year old, there are millions of vehicles with this issue, maybe when a relative of yours or yourself or some kid you see gets killed by an inexperienced driver that has a stallingfailure happen and does not know how to stop his or her vehicle and plows into a mother with her kids you may take another attitude. Just because there is an aftermarket temporary fix does not make it right or safer. It may extend the life of a poorly designed component. Personally, I think the controller should have been designed to be inside the vehicle like some PCM's.

Some have done it. They still fail at times. It's a piece of electronic equipment that creates massive amounts of heat.. Nothing you can do will create a perfect track record. PCM's don't create that kind of heat.

We've given you the fix. Don't like it, for sale signs are cheap.

Have a great night everyone, again PMDs are already relocated on all of them, that again is not my point. Don't hate on the Hummers, they are used for saving lives!

Duramax uses fuel to cool it and then has to put a cooler on the fuel returning to the tank.

I understand where you come from.

Are you aware of the relocation outside the engine hood?

A lot of people out there including Accurate Diesel are doing the intake relocation. That is still "neighbor" not "remote".

Heath was the first with this idea or may be the first with the commercial implementation of this idea outside not intake by using common sense. Although supplier like SSD still insist that this is not the right but the record speaks for itself.

My suggestion to you is probably ask GM or AMG to pay for your relocation unit from Heath. Otherwise, the lawyer will be the one who makes the money. LOL!!!

Duramax uses fuel to cool it and then has to put a cooler on the fuel returning to the tank.

wow, never knew it got that hot....

:welcome2: to site.


Glad you can take our punisment forum tonight. You might just be O.K. after all.

OK, last comment, I do appreciate the suggestion about outside. AM General even flew out to deal with this, the master mechanic at the GM Hummer who by the way is very sharp could just not find a good place in the H1 Hood area to mount the FSD cooler except under the hood catch above the lift pump. He wanted to try and find a way to mount inside the fan shroud but was not able to, wheel wells are out of the question and same with battery area. If you know H1's I am willing to here some ideas and by the way, I will most likely switch to same setup as military h1's (Mechanical IP and lift pump) except 12VDC solenoid.

Duramax has what looks like a small oil cooler underneath the truck on the drivers side.. I suppose it could get hot enough that the fumes could ignite if exposed to open flame.

There are some coolers out there with a 12 volt fan on them.

PMD will spike 250 degrees in about 15 minutes with out a cooler. Over 250 and it turns to toast

OK last last one, Hummer thought about underneath that issue came up as well. Also, just last week 2 more H1's came into Winkel Hummer (Reno) with stalling issues. we are ony 5-10 people as of now bs'n around, there are millions of these issues and most people are not as knowleageable as you or me concerning PMD's and most people would probably crash in a bad situation should they stall out losing brakes, steering and power. The bottom line is there is an issue, a lot of the techy guys know about it, sure there are aftermarket fixes, I think some are good too, sure you can just get rid of PCM, EFI, PMD, get a mechanical fuel pump and TCM but why should you even have to in the first place? This issue has been known yes since 1994 (dmo vehicles had on since 1992 and had issues) or earlier, why should a 2002 or 2004 vehicle have the same problem a 1994 vehicle had? ESPECIALLY IF IT POSES A SAFETY CONCERN? Especially if the manufacturers are well aware of it. That is my only point.

is the 250 degree thing true? Hummers engines run hot and around 225 a lot. I would be interested where you got that data? Normal is around 210 and I have seen as low as 195 with hood scoops, special exhaust and aluminum radiator

anything over 210 is head and block cracking territory. I've never been able to get either of my 6.xs that hot, and i'm not nice to them at all.

Unfortunately H1's run hot all the time. HMMWV's same thing. There is a flexalite (I believe that is fan I have) aftermarket setup as well. That is why mechanical I believe is way to go, they also run cooler.

I burnt up my share on the test stand. They start to smoking and you can smell them starting to burn up. This is with no cooler or pump to take the heat away.
If you don't have a source of cooling the PMD will get extremly hot.

Out side air must be below 170 degrees so under hood is out of the question for proper cooling. Fuel in the injection pump takes the heat away on the pump installed ones. But we all know that just does not cut it.

Here is a link to the fuel cooler on Dmax http://startingautos.com/fuel-system-desrciption-duramax/

If you know H1's I am willing to here some ideas and by the way, I will most likely switch to same setup as military h1's (Mechanical IP and lift pump) except 12VDC solenoid.

This IS the only true fix. BTW, you do not need to change to a mechanical lift pump.

I am not sure about H1 but most of us are putting FSD cooler (PMD on a big heatsink) in the bumper. If you check Heath Diesel website, there are a lot of info on how they do it. NEVER put it inside the hood.

If you have 3 vehicles with this problem,, and they all cost over 100 grand,,, pissoff!
you got more money into vehicles, then 15 members here combined! You have more than enough money to make it safe for your family! If someone kills someone else in Your vehicle,, than your posting info here, is enough for another lawyer to take all your stuff.
4-F*#@-sake,, fix your chit. and move on! Hell buy a 10 ft extension cable and remote mount that bastard in the rear bumper! tryin to get GM or AM to fix this issue is like pissin in the lake to watch it rise!

Hey guys, I had to jump in here and on the other site. My BF usually posts in here too but my father almost crashed cuz of the PMD issue in his GM Diesel PU. I would have been so sad if my dad died because of a defect that should have been fixed. Everyone in here says GM knew about it.......Why the F did they not do nething????????????? If this guy is truly trying to force them to make a wrong into right,,,,,,that aint a bad thing.........Hey nvrescue I went to that link you posted and noticed search and rescue at the bottom and went there and saw hummers on the website,,,r those the ones you are having issues with? they fckn rock,,,nice rides. also do you do sar? If so, kudos to you ;)

One more thing, the guys that are being so brutal over this, just ignore them ;) too many haters in this world. My BF is a diesel expert and he drives a rckn modified Diesel H2 with a DMAX in it and has a smokin rock crawler we go out in the weekends with he tells me the PMD issue is a big F* up of GM and if they get their a** reamed over it, they deserve it. He personally thinks the maker of the PMD is really responsible, Stanadyne? neway, don't stop your mission you sound like you have a cause and a passion for it and their must be a true reason why and I dont think it's money.......

OK, since people like to insult BUT NOT READ, the Hummers are for LIFE SAVING, The HUMMERS HAVE BEEN PMD RELOCATED IN THE BEST SPOT POSSIBLE. Let me tell you what we had to do to finally rule out everything since Stanadyne insisted their BRAND NEW PUMP WAS NOT THE CAUSE:

1) Change Accelerator Pedal (Already knew voltage was fine in the 3 positions)
2) Ran Clear Tubing for AIR
3) Did Fuel pressure test
4) Replaced Fuel Selector Valve (Even though tested good)
5) Replaced BOTH FUEL TANKS and BOTH HAD DEFECTS IN THEM (Buldge and other with broken slosh guard)
6) Replaced ALL fuel lines
7) Replaced Lift Pump (3 Times)
8) Checked ALL wiring from PCM to Injection Pump and added new Diaelectric Grease
9) Removed ANY Emergency equipment inside H1 to ensure NO EMI
10) Ran bypassed fuel from external tank
11) Replaced Ignition
12) Changed Crankshaft Sensor
13) Changed Oil Pressure Switch
14) Changed PCM

We had to do these to rule them out. I knew it was the injection pump but Stanadyne was throwing a fit swearing it was not the NEW PUMP WITH THE NEW PMD. Keep in mind we have gone through 4 Injection Pumps so far on the 2002 and 3 on the 1999. Finally, after the last stallout I cussed out Stanadyne and told them to overnight me a pump. They said "Just because we will send you another NEW pump, most problems will go away just by unplugging it and reconnecting it....." GUESS WHAT, wtf do you think we did with the frigging wire harnass inspection!!!!! The minute we installed the NEW PUMP WITH ANOTHER GRAY PMD TO REPLACE A NEW PUMP WITH GREY PMD AND RELOCATED IT, ALL ISSUES WENT AWAY. THE shuttering and stalling then starting driving 10 feet and dying were symptoms that started two weeks after NEW PUMP AND PMD.

I had to ABSOLUTEY VERIFY WITH 100% CERTAINTY THAT IT WAS THE PMD'S. It also helped that during stalling, we finally had a spare PMD and connected it for brief periods and the issue went away temporarily. AM GENERAL stated to pour cold water on the PMD when we stall out. WOW that is a great answer. AM General even flew out and they did discover the tank issue and thought that was the cause but NOPE!!!

OFF THE RECORD AM GENERAL TOLD ME TO CONVERT TO MECHANICAL BUT THAT THEY WILL NOT SANCTION IT!

So the conclusion is, millions of people purchased diesel trucks under the assumption of reliabilty and NO SAFETY ISSUE when GM, Stanadyne and AM GENERAL sold them KNOWING OF AN UNSAFE CONDITION, SORRY THATS BS, FRAUD, NEGLIGENCE AND COMPLETE DISREGARD TO THE PUBLIC'S SAFETY. Anyone that says otherwise is NOT EDUCATED, wise or concerned for people. FYI: New vehicles despite last year of 2004 were still sold in 2007/2008. Overstock or unique vehicles like Hummer H1's. A friend of mine has a 2004 model and bough it a few years ago NEW! recalls can go back unlimited years but manufacturers are legall responsible for 10 years so 2000 and up are covered and I will tell you on an issue like this, if they dont cover all, they will definately have legal issues beyond relief. I hope GM, Stanadyne and others do go down for IGNORING PUBLIC SAFETY and PROFITING FROM IT!!!!!!!

Thank you Kayla for the nice post.......PM me if you like.

Thank you Kayla for the nice post.......PM me if you like.

Hmmmm......don't see that happening any time soon considering You and Kayla are on the same computer. Not to mention I just drop kicked "Kayla" from the site.

I think we've caught us another SteakSauce. :hehe:

...tzzz how pathetic:rolleyes:

OK, since people like to insult BUT NOT READ, the Hummers are for LIFE SAVING, The HUMMERS HAVE BEEN PMD RELOCATED IN THE BEST SPOT POSSIBLE. Let me tell you what we had to do to finally rule out everything since Stanadyne insisted their BRAND NEW PUMP WAS NOT THE CAUSE:

1) Change Accelerator Pedal (Already knew voltage was fine in the 3 positions)
2) Ran Clear Tubing for AIR
3) Did Fuel pressure test
4) Replaced Fuel Selector Valve (Even though tested good)
5) Replaced BOTH FUEL TANKS and BOTH HAD DEFECTS IN THEM (Buldge and other with broken slosh guard)
6) Replaced ALL fuel lines
7) Replaced Lift Pump (3 Times)
8) Checked ALL wiring from PCM to Injection Pump and added new Diaelectric Grease
9) Removed ANY Emergency equipment inside H1 to ensure NO EMI
10) Ran bypassed fuel from external tank
11) Replaced Ignition
12) Changed Crankshaft Sensor
13) Changed Oil Pressure Switch
14) Changed PCM

We had to do these to rule them out. I knew it was the injection pump but Stanadyne was throwing a fit swearing it was not the NEW PUMP WITH THE NEW PMD. Keep in mind we have gone through 4 Injection Pumps so far on the 2002 and 3 on the 1999. Finally, after the last stallout I cussed out Stanadyne and told them to overnight me a pump. They said "Just because we will send you another NEW pump, most problems will go away just by unplugging it and reconnecting it....." GUESS WHAT, wtf do you think we did with the frigging wire harnass inspection!!!!! The minute we installed the NEW PUMP WITH ANOTHER GRAY PMD TO REPLACE A NEW PUMP WITH GREY PMD AND RELOCATED IT, ALL ISSUES WENT AWAY. THE shuttering and stalling then starting driving 10 feet and dying were symptoms that started two weeks after NEW PUMP AND PMD.

I had to ABSOLUTEY VERIFY WITH 100% CERTAINTY THAT IT WAS THE PMD'S. It also helped that during stalling, we finally had a spare PMD and connected it for brief periods and the issue went away temporarily. AM GENERAL stated to pour cold water on the PMD when we stall out. WOW that is a great answer. AM General even flew out and they did discover the tank issue and thought that was the cause but NOPE!!!

OFF THE RECORD AM GENERAL TOLD ME TO CONVERT TO MECHANICAL BUT THAT THEY WILL NOT SANCTION IT!

So the conclusion is, millions of people purchased diesel trucks under the assumption of reliabilty and NO SAFETY ISSUE when GM, Stanadyne and AM GENERAL sold them KNOWING OF AN UNSAFE CONDITION, SORRY THATS BS, FRAUD, NEGLIGENCE AND COMPLETE DISREGARD TO THE PUBLIC'S SAFETY. Anyone that says otherwise is NOT EDUCATED, wise or concerned for people. FYI: New vehicles despite last year of 2004 were still sold in 2007/2008. Overstock or unique vehicles like Hummer H1's. A friend of mine has a 2004 model and bough it a few years ago NEW! recalls can go back unlimited years but manufacturers are legall responsible for 10 years so 2000 and up are covered and I will tell you on an issue like this, if they dont cover all, they will definately have legal issues beyond relief. I hope GM, Stanadyne and others do go down for IGNORING PUBLIC SAFETY and PROFITING FROM IT!!!!!!!

So, dude, what do you want to do. Raving and ranting here ain't going to get you closer. We simphatize with you. Tell the AMG engineer to join us or just check the FAQ to solve this 15 yrs old problem. Or go sue them now. The lawyer will make the money anyway and you won't get nothing, not even a solution.

Kayla is a real person just trying to show support for some of the negative people, she provided real contact information to moderator but he banned her. Kind of wrong since friends of friends post on here all the time. Someone supporting me on a good cause gets the shaft. Tisk tisk

And the moderator here got me banned on another site for what speaking up on a serious safety issue and having a few supporters. THATS JUST PLAIN WRONG no other way to say it. I have a hundred people that will be posting on here soon, most know the severity of the issue, some have Diesels with PMD issues, others are mechanics, are they going to not be able to support a serious safety issue, let me know, we will start another diesel site that will not show favoritism and allow insults but not positives!

I totally agree that it is a safety issue. Besides the stalling issue. A bad PMD can and will cause unexpected acceleration. This happened to me in a parking lot and i damn near backed into a car. I did not drive my truck till I replaced/relocated PMD. I have seen other posts here and on other boards of people complaining about the same thing.
I do believe GM knows about the problem but could care less.
Good luck getting any money or a recall from them.
GM has been immolating people in the old saddle gas tank trucks for years and never have done a recall. Even tho asked to do so by the NTSB. They (GM) just have been quietly paying 10s and 100s of millions in wrongful death/injury suits. Out of court of course, to keep it out of the press. Rather than recall all the trucks and fix the defect..
Maybe if you are hurt or killed because of a PMD failure. You or your surviving family can get money out of GM. But dont expect them to do a recall or engineer a fix for the problem. I support your cause but dont think you will get what you want from GM. They just dont care about a few people running around in older trucks.

Thanks for the positive reply. The Truck Stop just slandered myself and friend. We have valid RENO and SF addresses. Hell they are on the America Search And Rescue WEBSITE! If anyone knows the moderator on The Truck Stop he not only slandered us but made fun of a Federal Investigator's name with NHTSA. If this is supposed to be a fair and impartial forum, why would someone ban a friend supporting me and me with legitimate post? I am very real, believe me, so is Steve Russo with SFPD GF Kayla Hayes. So what she posted support. Her dad did have an issue, why do you think we are pushing this safety issue. Bruce York is a REAL NHTSA investigator. The Truck Stop moderator modified my post and called him Bruce Dork. NOT COOOL!

I am on here for a serious issue, I have been insulted, why are those posts or people banned. I HAVE NOT INSULTED ANYONE! I am guilty of asking a friend to lend a hand with support. I totally admit that. So what, am I supposed to believe that people on here dont know each other and friends post on the same post.

BACK TO THIS ISSUE, GM, Stanadyne and AM General need to step up to the plate. THE PMD IS A VERY SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE!

If my son posts on here uses my computer will he be banned. I will post later tonight from Reno, you here that moderator! Then you can let Truck Stop know they are TOTALLY WRONG and slandered innocent people with a cause! anyone that wants to contact me feel free (775) 622-7929 Reno cell and (415) 756-9005 SF cell, one is a 24 hour rescue line so act accordingly. I am tired of this whole BS attacking people that are posting on a forum to bring out a safety issue that can save a life. Truck Stop FYI is dam near liable for damages so I would make it right!

Man,why keep beating a dead horse.There's no need to get in a knot about.As far as GM is concerned these trucks are dinosaurs on the way to extinction.Do yourself a favour,Learn what realy makes these 6.5's tick and survive,get a D-tech PMD and stick it on a heatsink in the bumper or where ever,keep a spare PMD behind the seat(I got a couple good used ones for ye cheap,see it as a spare tire),and monitor your fuel pressure with a gauge.
Chances are you wont have to many issues after that.
Or get rid of that overpriced useless pathetic hummer POS and buy yourself a ford or dodge truck,that way we dont have to deal with ye no more on this forum.

Keeping on ranting about it wont get you much sympathy in this community,not from anyway.You wanna be safe,go live on a private island deep in cave.

If my son posts on here uses my computer will he be banned. I will post later tonight from Reno, you here that moderator! Then you can let Truck Stop know they are TOTALLY WRONG and slandered innocent people with a cause! anyone that wants to contact me feel free (775) 622-7929 Reno cell and (415) 756-9005 SF cell, one is a 24 hour rescue line so act accordingly. I am tired of this whole BS attacking people that are posting on a forum to bring out a safety issue that can save a life. Truck Stop FYI is dam near liable for damages so I would make it right!

Oh boy. I'm shaking in my boots. :rolleyes: I'm sure TTS is shaking in their boots as well.

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As for "doing the right thing" nvrescue, don't push it. Tell me how to do my job or "yell" at me again(caps lock is yelling) and i'll ban you as well.

Understand?

Those of us that have been around a long while know Mr. Steaky and how he posts, the words he uses, the spelling and grammar he uses(or lack thereof), and the fact that multiple newbie tend to support him from out of no where.

That certainly sounds a lot like you nvrescue. Especially the words "slander" and "libel" out of context.

I will let this dog and pony show continue for a little longer, just because i can use the laughs.

As far as being liable for damages. It seems your the only one whos continuing to fight for a fix, that's been given out. FOr your information, GM does the PMD relocation as well. They bolt it to the inner fender and use the fender as a heatsink. It's not the greatest relocate because it's still in the engine bay, but it's better than it being stuff in the valley. Now if GM is willing to do that instead of turning away, maybe they've researched the issue and found out that's the only fix. Ever think of that?

- Dave

After being threatened via PM and in public here by nvrescue(certainly sounds/acts like ol Steaksauce) he'll no longer be joining us.

All I can say is WOW!

good then,, I was just about out of Popcorn!:troll::homer::deadhorse::ban:

I have a '52 Chevy truck... and the fuel line keeps disintegrating on me. This thing is used for SAVING LIVES!!! I'm starting a "Recall the '52 Chevy pickup or people will die!" campaign... good Lord how can GM be so complacent for all these years??

I have a '52 Chevy truck... and the fuel line keeps disintegrating on me. This thing is used for SAVING LIVES!!! I'm starting a "Recall the '52 Chevy pickup or people will die!" campaign... good Lord how can GM be so complacent for all these years??

You are not helping the situation there Randall. :rolleyes:

wow you guys had fun last night.....

Man,why keep beating a dead horse.There's no need to get in a knot about.As far as GM is concerned these trucks are dinosaurs on the way to extinction.Do yourself a favour,Learn what realy makes these 6.5's tick and survive,get a D-tech PMD and stick it on a heatsink in the bumper or where ever,keep a spare PMD behind the seat(I got a couple good used ones for ye cheap,see it as a spare tire),and monitor your fuel pressure with a gauge.
Chances are you wont have to many issues after that.
Or get rid of that overpriced useless pathetic hummer POS and buy yourself a ford or dodge truck,that way we dont have to deal with ye no more on this forum.

Keeping on ranting about it wont get you much sympathy in this community,not from anyway.You wanna be safe,go live on a private island deep in cave.

then he would complain about the d-tech going all toyota on him when it takes off like they tend to do

Oh Laurence was very real... And so were the threats he threw out to our VP of sales when he called on his little tirade screaming about how he is "going to bitch slap our company", also spouting off that he was a cop and that we had posted confidential information about a rescue.

Im not real sure... I might have missed it, but I havent seen information about a rescue and I didnt know this was a confidential discussion. Welcome to the internet Mr. Kaplan. Facebook is Public Domain... If we can see it then its Public. Your attorney will tell you the exact same thing when you go crying to him on Monday.

Stew

How many 6.5L H1's did you purchase before you realized they had serious safety issues? :confused:

Oh Laurence was very real... And so were the threats he threw out to our VP of sales when he called on his little tirade screaming about how he is "going to bitch slap our company", also spouting off that he was a cop and that we had posted confidential information about a rescue.

Im not real sure... I might have missed it, but I havent seen information about a rescue and I didnt know this was a confidential discussion. Welcome to the internet Mr. Kaplan. Facebook is Public Domain... If we can see it then its Public. Your attorney will tell you the exact same thing when you go crying to him on Monday.

Stew

Confidential!!! LOL!!! Does he realized this is the internet?

Wow, someone is quite detached from reality, I think.

A1 would never give out his phone number. All the sites the guy listed are his own. One just made a few days ago. > pmdfailures.com

sure looks a lot like A1 and he even has a link to A1

Not totally convinced it's him. But still doing research on it. :D

steak hunter #17

Hunt'n facts http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=323869&highlight=steak+hunter

Nah, this loud mouth gomer runs a pressure washing outfit.

Hmmmm......don't see that happening any time soon considering You and Kayla are on the same computer. Not to mention I just drop kicked "Kayla" from the site.

I think we've caught us another SteakSauce. :hehe:


Ole SteaksSauce liked to compliment his self the same way this guy does. Hmmmmmm?

The other loud mouthed gomer used to run a car wash until he got the hell fined out of him. Maybe he's downgraded? ):h

Ole SteaksSauce liked to compliment his self the same way this guy does. Hmmmmmm?

#19 reporting for Duty. :D

That's the one thing that tipped me off DP. The way he "thanks" himself is such a Steaky move.

wow,


























drama.....

If my son posts on here uses my computer will he be banned. I will post later tonight from Reno, you here that moderator! Then you can let Truck Stop know they are TOTALLY WRONG and slandered innocent people with a cause! anyone that wants to contact me feel free (775) 622-7929 Reno cell and (415) 756-9005 SF cell, one is a 24 hour rescue line so act accordingly. I am tired of this whole BS attacking people that are posting on a forum to bring out a safety issue that can save a life. Truck Stop FYI is dam near liable for damages so I would make it right!

I've banned them both Dave. Both were doing the same thing there as here. I also got hate mail:


I believe that my account was banned inappropriately. Real people posted. I asked for some support by a friend’s Fiancé who wanted to help out. She is very real and you banned her to. Let’s not start a discrimination or equality issue when the point is a safety concern. I ask on good faith to immediately correct this error. This matter will be escalated due to the severity of the issue at hand. Thank you.



Sincerely,



America Search And Rescue



Laurence J. Kaplan

National Director



America Search And Rescue

Region 1, California Division, Group S.F.

P.O. Box 170302

San Francisco, CA. 94117

(775) 622-7929 (24 Hour)



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Email 2: nvrescue@gmail.com

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Well, I just want to say thank you for the entertainment. It took me two crown and cokes to get through this and my smile got bigger on each page. I do understand the anger over the PMD issue as we all do, but lets face it, GM won't do anything about it, they don't care. Your right, they knew about it, ignored it and thats that. It's up to us to fix the mistake. The trucks are too old to push the issue now. You certainly won't get a recall out of them. You have a better chance of winning the lottery twice. Obama owns GM now, good luck.

For those just tuning in, lets recap:
nvrescue = :cry:

Moderator = :watch:


Moderator :boxing: + nvrescue :crazy: = :catfight:

Moderator: :ban:

nvrescue: :huh:

That was your picture story of the last 8 pages. My story ends for the night with this: :shots:
Goodnight my friends, and thank you for the entertainment: :beerchug:

The most important question never got asked: If this guy can afford multiple $100K vehicles, where can we all get employment applications?

First you gotta get the uniform:

http://imagesforum.doctissimo.fr/mesimages/4280053/doofy.jpg

Isn't that the moderator uniform?

so why we taking shots at the mod staff hmm?? this guy is a joke, and this thread has served its purpose...lets not give this guy anymore screen time.