Will the Denali have any improvents to suspenion or anything else because of the Denali package? I know the Sierra 1500 comes with hydraulic body mounts and such.

all of the HD crew cabs have hydraulic body mounts I think, regardless of denali package or not.

But otherwise, the Denali HD suspension is the same as the regular HD. The Z71 package is an option on the Denali too, same as the normal HD trucks.

So is the hydraulic body mounts about the only difference besides trim?

So is the hydraulic body mounts about the only difference besides trim?

ALL HD's, even the base models, have hydraulic body mounts (crew cab).

So yes, on the HD trucks, the Denali package is trim/interior options only....they dont get any special chassis/powertrain/suspension options. :)

ben

well I almost bought a Denali 1500 today. I want a 400hp gas engine. But my dealer told me he has 3 Denali diesels in route. Should be here by the end of the month. I did not buy anything yet...

well I almost bought a Denali 1500 today. I want a 400hp gas engine. But my dealer told me he has 3 Denali diesels in route. Should be here by the end of the month. I did not buy anything yet...

Is the temptation of a new Denali soooo great that you're willing to take a 1500 gasser over a new LML? Or are you no longer interested in a Diesel?

i think its gunna be a big hit everyone likes the luxery of them now the power is there too what more can u ask

Is the temptation of a new Denali soooo great that you're willing to take a 1500 gasser over a new LML? Or are you no longer interested in a Diesel?


Price is my big thing, I have no real need for diesel except for the fact I can run a truck all day long and the I like having the "HD" parts and build. I am going to wait to see the Deanlis HDs though. I think a Cognito lifted Denali Duramax would be just awesome!

Denali HD will be hot.

money comes and goes class and style have to be earned haha

Ben,

Do you know why the z71 package on the Denali is $100 less than on an slt, but specifies 35mm shocks instead of the 46mm that come on a z71 slt?

Oh, and I think the Denali HD should come with a clean hood instead of that ugly piece of recycled plastic they are putting on the 2011 trucks. If I buy one, that would be the first thing to be removed.

Ben,

Do you know why the z71 package on the Denali is $100 less than on an slt, but specifies 35mm shocks instead of the 46mm that come on a z71 slt?

No idea on that one... :confuzeld:

As for the shock absorber things, I think the Z71 package on a denali is identical to the Z71 package on a non-denali, so im guessing thats a misprint or something...?

ben

Oh, and I think the Denali HD should come with a clean hood instead of that ugly piece of recycled plastic they are putting on the 2011 trucks. If I buy one, that would be the first thing to be removed.

I know, that is unbelievable! The first time I seen that plastic on any of the models, I thought, what a cheap piece of shit to put onto such a nice truck.

You have to wonder what goes through the minds of some of these designers:duh:

In many ways I'm liking the look of the Silverado better than even the Denali--I just really want cooled seats on whatever I buy. Does anyone know if the cooled feature will be optional on top end ltz models?

In many ways I'm liking the look of the Silverado better than even the Denali--I just really want cooled seats on whatever I buy. Does anyone know if the cooled feature will be optional on top end ltz models?
It was never offered to me when I placed my order.

In many ways I'm liking the look of the Silverado better than even the Denali--I just really want cooled seats on whatever I buy. Does anyone know if the cooled feature will be optional on top end ltz models?

That's the exact dilemma that I find myself in -- I really want a black Chevy, but they are not offering the cooled seats in anything but the Denali. :mad:

I think a Cognito lifted Denali Duramax would be just awesome!


I'm with you on that!

I wonder who will be the first to develop a lift?

for some stupid reason if you get heated/cooled seats it deletes side impact airbags and side curtain airbags...you can only get side airbags/side curtain airbags with the heat-only (and base model) seats.

Cooled seats are nice, but if I were buying a new truck id rather have good side impact protection and just deal with heated-only seats.

ben

now if they would just offer Tri-coat paint colors on them like dimond white peral........

^^^ or some of the pearl blue colors available on the Yukon denali

What's the sticker price on a '11 Denali with the diesel? Does it crack $60?

Got to be real close. What is a King Ranch?

Am I correct or has Ford taken over the most expensive. It was always GM but it looks like Ford caught up a bit.

Price on Denali 4x4 Diesel from my dealer:

Here is a 2011 GMC Sierra Denali Crew Cab 4x4 Diesel 2500HD Truck we have in transit. This truck should be here within a couple of weeks. Sale Price on this Denali is 59,655. We can secure this truck for you with a deposit if you prefer. Please let me know...

It says it has a high idle switch?!?!?!

Price on Denali 4x4 Diesel from my dealer:

Here is a 2011 GMC Sierra Denali Crew Cab 4x4 Diesel 2500HD Truck we have in transit. This truck should be here within a couple of weeks. Sale Price on this Denali is 59,655. We can secure this truck for you with a deposit if you prefer. Please let me know...

It says it has a high idle switch?!?!?!

So what?:confused:

Is that sticker price, or OTD price?

Sticker I bet.

So does this mean I can high idle it up when ever I want?

Sticker I bet.

So does this mean I can high idle it up when ever I want?

Yep! It was an option on the 2009's too. It's nothing but electronic programming and can be added after the fact. IIRC it uses the cruise control switch.

Yep! It was an option on the 2009's too. It's nothing but electronic programming and can be added after the fact. IIRC it uses the cruise control switch.


Nice thats how I could high idle whenever I wanted on my Dodge.

What's the sticker price on a '11 Denali with the diesel? Does it crack $60?
build one (http://prod3.gmautobuilder.com/BuildYourOwn/GMC.byo?year=2011)

I just built one on the GMC website. A stripped down denali is $55,435 and a loaded one is $61,546 (both diesels of course). I also noticed that you cannot add the towing mirrors from the factory and the fact that you cannot have heated/cooled seats with side impact airbags sucks.

Well, towing mirrors will be a necessity. I have been tossing the idea of selling mine with stock wheels on it and just buying a Denali. I always said to myself that they should build one of these, and the interior options are unbelievable! Who knows though. I will have to drive an LML first.. I cant wait to see these trucks hit dealers!!

for some stupid reason if you get heated/cooled seats it deletes side impact airbags and side curtain airbags...you can only get side airbags/side curtain airbags with the heat-only (and base model) seats.

Cooled seats are nice, but if I were buying a new truck id rather have good side impact protection and just deal with heated-only seats.

ben
Who needs 27 airbags? ):h

I also noticed that "bose" is not part of the audio systems?

I also noticed that "bose" is not part of the audio systems?

the denali has it standard obviously. Its a true 5.1 surround system with a center channel speaker in the upper dashboard etc..

Just saw a new denali at a hunting show in austin, tx Looked under it and the torsion bars seem to have a lot more adjustment then the previous model, happy to see it since I always put the big pipe bumper on it, this way i can get it back to its original height.

Who needs 27 airbags? ):h
Indeed. Unless it's a big rig (in which case, you're dead anyway), a side impact will likely mean someone's going under your truck, or smacking right into your frame, which is pretty strong as I recall.... ;)

-bZj

Indeed. Unless it's a big rig (in which case, you're dead anyway), a side impact will likely mean someone's going under your truck, or smacking right into your frame, which is pretty strong as I recall.... ;)

-bZj

ok maybe, maybe not. But still if someone t-bones you thats some seriously nasty whiplash and a guaranteed smack in the arm/head by the door/glass. The truck wont deform as much and wont buckle like a car would (because as you said, its higher up and cars would most likely hit the frame rather than the door), but the force still wrenches on your back/neck just the same.

Think about it this way. In a frontal collision you've got airbags and 5+ feet of body/fenders/frame/crumple zones to absorb the impact. The door/window is close enough that you can move a couple inches to the side and be sticking your head outside the window. And you're telling me you dont care about having/dont need some form of supplemental side impact protection??? :eek:

not to mention if its summer time and you've got your windows down, side curtain airbags keep your head/arms/whatever inside the vehicle...especially in a rollover.

As far as accident avoidance and frontal crash, the gmt-900 tahoes/suburbans/escalades/etc are basically the safest SUV's on the road. (next to the volvo XC90) They passed frontal/rollover/rear/offset-front tests with flying colors. Side impact ratings were not horrible, but they werent great. So even with a tall vehicle and strong frame, thats proof you still need good supplemental impact protection.

For the 2010 model year they added much bigger/stronger side-impact bars in the doors, and added additional seat-mounted side impact airbags. The 2007-2009 half ton trucks/SUV's had side curtain airbags only. They didnt have any lower side-impact airbags to protect your arm/body.

It was only after they added strength to the doors and added midlevel side airbags that the side impact ratings improved to match the excellent frontal etc crash test ratings.

given the option Id rather have a sweaty seat than a broken arm or messed up back. :)

ben

ok maybe, maybe not. But still if someone t-bones you thats some seriously nasty whiplash and a guaranteed smack in the arm/head by the door/glass. The truck wont deform as much and wont buckle like a car would (because as you said, its higher up and cars would most likely hit the frame rather than the door), but the force still wrenches on your back/neck just the same.


As far as accident avoidance and frontal crash, the gmt-900 tahoes/suburbans/escalades/etc are basically the safest SUV's on the road. (next to the volvo XC90) They passed frontal/rollover/rear/offset-front tests with flying colors. Side impact ratings were not horrible, but they werent great. So even with a tall vehicle and strong frame, thats proof you still need good supplemental impact protection.




ben




100% Agree GMT-900's are the safest things on the road, my wife is living proof of it....

Was involved in a multi-truck accident on the highway....was in the left most lane stopped for a traffic snarl and was rear ended by an 18 wheeler and T boned on the passenger side by an F450 Flat bed, launched her truck in the back of an Acura MDX....

All 3 trucks that hit her were obliterated, including the semi and had to be hauled off on a hook.

She opended the door and walked away...:)

I just wish there more structural integrity in the A-pillar / windshield header area.


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu137/Goneboatin/Crash%20pics/IMGP0205.jpg

I just wish there more structural integrity in the A-pillar / windshield header area.


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu137/Goneboatin/Crash%20pics/IMGP0205.jpg

IIRC you rolled down a highway going pretty fast...ive seen some rolled GMT-900's and none of them looked near this bad. The steep pillar angle/windshield rake of the GMT-900's theoretically might make the roof weaker than the GMT-800's, but still nowhere near as weak as the FORD superduty roofs. Those are flat-out dangerous...

Perfect example of why I am so glad that GM made stabilitrak available in 2009 and standard on the new 2011 LML's.... rollover accidents like the above will be cut down by a HUUGEEE margin.

^^^^ Violently Agree! Unless your driving an M1 Abrams with active body armor there will be limits.

IIRC you rolled down a highway going pretty fast...ive seen some rolled GMT-900's and none of them looked near this bad. The steep pillar angle/windshield rake of the GMT-900's theoretically might make the roof weaker than the GMT-800's, but still nowhere near as weak as the FORD superduty roofs. Those are flat-out dangerous...

Perfect example of why I am so glad that GM made stabilitrak available in 2009 and standard on the new 2011 LML's.... rollover accidents like the above will be cut down by a HUUGEEE margin.


I think why it turned out so bad is because I didn't roll, I got airborne after bouncing off the guardrail and landed on the roof/door edge then slid for another 300+ feet, but either way I did walk away was OK. I hydroplaned at 70 mph, I would hope that traction control would help prevent something like this happening.

I was at a job where one of my moron workers rolled a water truck down an embankment, it was a heavy duty Ford 10-wheel chassis, but the cab did not have any more added structural supports than a regular truck and that cab collapsed right down to the dash too.

So unless they start adding I-beams or high strength tubular steel A-pillars, we can just hope that we don't encounter a situation that we'll have to rely on the strength of the cab to protect us in an accident.

I've always wondered why trucks with a GVW of over 8600 lbs aren't required to have the same occupant protection that the lesser 1/2 ton trucks do. It wasn't until the GMT-800's came out that the 3/4 and 1-ton trucks got airbags and it wasn't until the 2011 models that these same trucks got the side airbags the 1/2 tons have had the last few years. I would figure all road-going trucks would need the same protection, even if it was offered as an option - it's the same cab, so why can't they do that?

Just ordered the Denali everthing but nav and step bars 52500 before tax with supplier pricing and 1500 rebate. Hopefully by the time it gets here the rebate will be bigger and if the Toyota rebate is still going it will be real cheap for me.

Can I get a deal like that?

Can I get a deal like that?

yeah you just have to get a supplier pricing code and get your dealer to agree to it. It took a little bit for my dealer to agree I had to put him against another dealer in a nearby city to agree to the price. At first he only wanted to give 3% over invoice.

The Denali I saw was a gasser had a sticker of 51,200. Loaded with a sun roof.

Can you order it with roof marker lamps? I have not seen that as an option on the website..

Just ordered the Denali everthing but nav and step bars 52500 before tax with supplier pricing and 1500 rebate. Hopefully by the time it gets here the rebate will be bigger and if the Toyota rebate is still going it will be real cheap for me.


Are you sure it truly has everything? Protection Package, Roof, Rear entertain, side air bags, ......the MSRP on the one I built was $63,314 w/nav. $10K off is an AWESOME deal. Congrats.:D

I paid the same for my '09 which truly has every option GM made, with a sticker of $59k.

The Denali I saw was a gasser had a sticker of 51,200. Loaded with a sun roof.

The sticker on the one I ordered was right around 59k with a duramax sunroof heated/cooled seats power rear window and z71

Are you sure it truly has everything? Protection Package, Roof, Rear entertain, side air bags, ......the MSRP on the one I built was $63,314 w/nav. $10K off is an AWESOME deal. Congrats.:D

I paid the same for my '09 which truly has every option GM made, with a sticker of $59k.

No you're right it didn't have any of those options except for sunroof.

No you're right it didn't have any of those options except for sunroof.

Still a good deal:D for the baddest truck on the planet.

I just checked the gmc website and I didn't see the option for the power rear sliding window anymore. Does that come standard with the Denali?

ok maybe, maybe not. But still if someone t-bones you thats some seriously nasty whiplash and a guaranteed smack in the arm/head by the door/glass. The truck wont deform as much and wont buckle like a car would (because as you said, its higher up and cars would most likely hit the frame rather than the door), but the force still wrenches on your back/neck just the same.

Think about it this way. In a frontal collision you've got airbags and 5+ feet of body/fenders/frame/crumple zones to absorb the impact. The door/window is close enough that you can move a couple inches to the side and be sticking your head outside the window. And you're telling me you dont care about having/dont need some form of supplemental side impact protection??? :eek:

not to mention if its summer time and you've got your windows down, side curtain airbags keep your head/arms/whatever inside the vehicle...especially in a rollover.

As far as accident avoidance and frontal crash, the gmt-900 tahoes/suburbans/escalades/etc are basically the safest SUV's on the road. (next to the volvo XC90) They passed frontal/rollover/rear/offset-front tests with flying colors. Side impact ratings were not horrible, but they werent great. So even with a tall vehicle and strong frame, thats proof you still need good supplemental impact protection.

For the 2010 model year they added much bigger/stronger side-impact bars in the doors, and added additional seat-mounted side impact airbags. The 2007-2009 half ton trucks/SUV's had side curtain airbags only. They didnt have any lower side-impact airbags to protect your arm/body.

It was only after they added strength to the doors and added midlevel side airbags that the side impact ratings improved to match the excellent frontal etc crash test ratings.

given the option Id rather have a sweaty seat than a broken arm or messed up back. :)

ben
I'll take my chances. I'd rather not have to pay the premium (even if its standard)...:cool:

you pay MORE for getting the heated/cooled seats (and deleting side airbags) than you do for adding side airbags to a truck without heated/cooled seats.

On any 2011 HD truck (work truck, LS, LT, LTZ) side airbags are like a 300 dollar option I think. The cooled seats are MUCH MUCH more expensive than that.

Id rather pay 300 dollars and have side airbags and deal with a sweaty seat than pay 1,000+ dollars and have a cool seat, but no side-impact protection.

JMO.

im not sure why cooled seats makes side airbags N/A on the HD trucks. On the half ton trucks/SUV's you can get the cooled seats with side-airbags. Maybe a supplier issue??? IE, maybe GM can only get so many of the cooled seats with side-airbags (because its a really exclusive option on only the most expensive trucks/SUV's, so GM probably doesnt want to buy a whole lot of the cooled seats with SAB)...so they save those super-exclusive seats for the half tons and SUV's, which are actually gov't rated for side-impact protection????

thats the only thing I can think of.

I bet in a year or so we will see the cooled seats WITH side-airbags available in the HD's. And probably standard side-airbags on ALL HD's in 2 years. I know they have been standard on the SUV's for a while, and I think as of 2010 model year, they are standard on ALL of the half ton trucks. When the GMT-900 half ton trucks first came out, side curtain airbags were only available on the crew cabs.

ben

How long until they make it so the entire cab fills with expand-a-foam instantly, like in Demolition Man? Air bags are so last century.

Being serious for a second, I did go to GM's website and price out a 2500HD Denali with the diesel and all the creature comforts. I was suprised it came in about $55k which isn't as high as I was expecting.
Im excited for the shootouts and reviews on these beasts!

im not sure why cooled seats makes side airbags N/A on the HD trucks. On the half ton trucks/SUV's you can get the cooled seats with side-airbags. Maybe a supplier issue??? IE, maybe GM can only get so many of the cooled seats with side-airbags (because its a really exclusive option on only the most expensive trucks/SUV's, so GM probably doesnt want to buy a whole lot of the cooled seats with SAB)...so they save those super-exclusive seats for the half tons and SUV's, which are actually gov't rated for side-impact protection????

thats the only thing I can think of.

I bet in a year or so we will see the cooled seats WITH side-airbags available in the HD's. And probably standard side-airbags on ALL HD's in 2 years. I know they have been standard on the SUV's for a while, and I think as of 2010 model year, they are standard on ALL of the half ton trucks. When the GMT-900 half ton trucks first came out, side curtain airbags were only available on the crew cabs.

ben

I think that you get side airbags but they aren't in the seat, they are in the headliner but I'll double check

I think that you get side airbags but they aren't in the seat, they are in the headliner but I'll double check

As far as I know the side curtain airbags in the HD trucks are only sold as a package with the seat mounted side airbags. So if you get cooled seats, you cant get seat-mounted SAB, which in turn deletes side curtain airbags.

In my last sierra denali (2009) the side curtain airbags were in the headliner. I know because they blew out when I was driving down the road when I hit a small bump at 42 mph.

:hehe:I remember that in demolition man. Its only a matter of time till thats what our vehicles are like.

I remember the good old days when there was no such thing as an air bag. Just huge hunks of metal compared to todays vehicles. The shear mass of the vehicle is what protected you. :hehe:

I remember the good old days when there was no such thing as an air bag. Just huge hunks of metal compared to todays vehicles. The shear mass of the vehicle is what protected you. :hehe:

Yeah right. Old cars were death traps. They may have been big and heavy. That doesnt mean they were safe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uOYKP-SYeE

Good old days? NO THANKS. Ill take modern technology any day... Big and heavy doesnt do you any good if it isnt designed to be crashworthy in the first place.

ben

In my last sierra denali (2009) the side curtain airbags were in the headliner. I know because they blew out when I was driving down the road when I hit a small bump at 42 mph.

corrosion in the SDM connector. There was a mandatory TSB about it a while back...the dealer probably never bothered to check yours....

Basically water gets in the SDM and shorts it out...and one or more of the SIR devices can deploy. Before you say "WELL JEEZE good thing it wasnt the driver side frontal airbag cause then I would have crashed!!", no, the airbag deflates a split second after it deploys. By the time you had even realized it deployed it would be limp/deflated and you would still be able to steer/see. :)

At the dealer I saw an 08 avalanche that that happened to. Except instead of deploying the airbags it was the passenger side seatbelt pretensioner that fired. Wow it is incredible how tight those pretensioners can yank the belts in a split second...on that avalanche you could "strum" the belt like a guitar and it would "twang"...it had been pulled that tight.

ben

:hehe:I remember that in demolition man. Its only a matter of time till thats what our vehicles are like.

I remember the good old days when there was no such thing as an air bag. Just huge hunks of metal compared to todays vehicles. The shear mass of the vehicle is what protected you. :hehe:

Well you had better pull your head out of your a$$.......and look at the video that Ben put up and look at the difference........just look at the footwell area of the bel air as compared the modern technology.....old school you would have broken legs;)

Well you had better pull your head out of your a$$.......

Where's the pot calling the kettle black smilie when you need it...

-Rob

You guys take things to seriously and get fired up so easily. I never said new technology was bad or it wasn't safer. Did I? I said in the past there were no such things as airbags and the more metal is "what" (indicated the past, not present) protected you. Car against car back then, chances are the heavier beefier car would win. I never said car then to car now. Its the same thing today if you take a duramax or a superduty and get into a crash against a smaller lighter car. I would not want to be in the smaller car.

So very mature for saying I should pull my head out of my a$$ for not understanding what I said. Maybe you should do the same. I love how people feel the need to prove they are better than someone else by just saying some rude comment. Especially when they don’t know what the context was. If there is any confusion of not understanding ask the question first to find out before making a comment.

Back on topic. The denali looks good.

I said in the past there were no such things as airbags and the more metal is "what" (indicated the past, not present) protected you..

in the old days "nothing" protected you. ;)

Sure they may be heavy with lots of metal up front.....but that doesnt mean anything without properly designed crumple zones etc...

On youtube there are old crash test videos from the 60's (actually, GM was the very first car mfg to do crash testing in the early 1930's, and GM was the first car mfg to make airbags available in cars in the mid 1970's) and you can see how big and massive they are, yet they still deform/collapse incredibly easily...

ben

corrosion in the SDM connector. There was a mandatory TSB about it a while back...the dealer probably never bothered to check yours....

Basically water gets in the SDM and shorts it out...and one or more of the SIR devices can deploy. Before you say "WELL JEEZE good thing it wasnt the driver side frontal airbag cause then I would have crashed!!", no, the airbag deflates a split second after it deploys. By the time you had even realized it deployed it would be limp/deflated and you would still be able to steer/see. :)

At the dealer I saw an 08 avalanche that that happened to. Except instead of deploying the airbags it was the passenger side seatbelt pretensioner that fired. Wow it is incredible how tight those pretensioners can yank the belts in a split second...on that avalanche you could "strum" the belt like a guitar and it would "twang"...it had been pulled that tight.

ben
The airbags knocked me out cold for a few seconds. I was coming up on the end of the road and had to turn left or right and woke up just before I got there. Had terrible pain in my neck for a few days. Side airbags deployed on both driver and passenger side and stayed inflated for about 20 min. actually. GM paid for the whole thing.

Be on the look out for a factory diecast of a black 3500 dually denali. The release date for these is yet to be released.

Just ordered the Denali everthing but nav and step bars 52500 before tax with supplier pricing and 1500 rebate. Hopefully by the time it gets here the rebate will be bigger and if the Toyota rebate is still going it will be real cheap for me.

Where might one find a supplier pricing coupon?:)

Where might one find a supplier pricing coupon?:)

Supplier discount is the same as Invoice! justa different way to say it :rolleyes:

I don't know why they don't just cut through the Crap an have one price period ,wait that would be to easy and they couldn't screw people that didn't know different :p:

I get the supplier discount through my company,BUT when the crap hit the Fan "Economy" GM gave it to anybody that walked in off the street !cause when I bought my 09 i held off telling the sales guy about it so i could use it as my Final Blow on the deal to get the price down ,but when I looked at the sheet he had it figured in already thats when he told me GM was giving it to everybody at the time,Guess he got in the final Blow LOL:D

Just a heads up about the Supplier discount,Not sure if it still applies BUT last i read/heard IF you have a Friend or family member that can get the Supplier discount they can Aslo Share it with you!

it's something new they just started doing or was doing about a year ago now!
may be worth looking into!

in the old days "nothing" protected you. ;)

Sure they may be heavy with lots of metal up front.....but that doesnt mean anything without properly designed crumple zones etc...

On youtube there are old crash test videos from the 60's (actually, GM was the very first car mfg to do crash testing in the early 1930's, and GM was the first car mfg to make airbags available in cars in the mid 1970's) and you can see how big and massive they are, yet they still deform/collapse incredibly easily...

ben

This is 100percent true