What is the benefit of buying a 06 to 07 Chevy over Ford or Dodge? What makes the Chevy so much better? What are the weak links in the Chevy and has anyone have and major problem with their D-max. Thanks guys.

Fords have problem-prone engines if you get anything but the 7.3 but are the best looking truck IMO prior to the latest body style. They also have horrible fuel mileage. Dodges have crappy transmission and a crap truck although I like the newest changes to the body. The Cummins is tops. They still need a transmission fix though. GM's have their problems as do any manufacturer but are overall balanced better in mechanics and looks. By the 06 era GM had worked out most of the bugs. That is what made my decision for me.

Powerstroke = Disassemble truck to work on motor.
Cummins= Truck will fall apart around motor.
Duramax= Just a little of both.

Powerstroke = Disassemble truck to work on motor.
Cummins= Truck will fall apart around motor.
Duramax= Just a little of both.

A true un- biased opinion

What is the benefit of buying a 06 to 07 Chevy over Ford or Dodge? What makes the Chevy so much better? What are the weak links in the Chevy and has anyone have and major problem with their D-max. Thanks guys.

Duramax.... My experience was perfect up until all 8 injectors took a dump at 150k miles on my Loaded 05 CC/SB with perfect maintainence and care, cost me $5 grand so far and it still is broken... I have a sour taste in my mouth that just wont go away because of that, that shouldn't happen with what these things cost!!! Truck is fine while that warranty is protecting you! But after that, think about selling it, because repairs are hard to do and they are expensive!!! Engine wise at least!!! I NEVER thought I was going to have a problem with the duramax it was SO great up until now, but this has proved me wrong. JUST something to think about.

Duramax.... My experience was perfect up until all 8 injectors took a dump at 150k miles on my Loaded 05 CC/SB with perfect maintainence and care, cost me $5 grand so far and it still is broken... I have a sour taste in my mouth that just wont go away because of that, that shouldn't happen with what these things cost!!! Truck is fine while that warranty is protecting you! But after that, think about selling it, because repairs are hard to do and they are expensive!!! Engine wise at least!!! I NEVER thought I was going to have a problem with the duramax it was SO great up until now, but this has proved me wrong. JUST something to think about.


You say all 8 injectors went out, cost you $5K to get them replaced and it is still broke? How do you know the injectors were the problem to start with?

You say all 8 injectors went out, cost you $5K to get them replaced and it is still broke? How do you know the injectors were the problem to start with?

TESTED AT INJECTION SHOP, HIGH PRESSURE PUMP IS ALSO BAD.

sounds like you need a dealer working on your truck that isnt full of idiot mechanics.

TESTED AT INJECTION SHOP, HIGH PRESSURE PUMP IS ALSO BAD.

If this is the case I really doubt it is the trucks fault. Sounds like someone put something in your fuel or you got some REALLY bad fuel. You don't fail an entire fuel system for no reason. Fuel is what lubricates the injectors and high pressure pump. If you had too much gas or water in your fuel it would thin it out and it wouldn't lubricate the system properly.

K so back to Why buy a D-max over a Cummins or Powerstroke???

I have owned all 3 and Duramax is the superior truck. Ford makes a good truck but puts a shitty engine and transmission in it. Cummins makes a good motor but puts it in a shitty truck. GM makes a good truck and puts a good engine in it back by a good transmission.
Simple as that. Every truck will have it's problems. GM just has fewer problems than the competition.

I like the GM because as a daily driver, the IFS rides better.

Had one Dodge/cummins it blew up on me at 167,000 miles. Three trucks running Duramax engines since then nothing has blown up since I unloaded the Dodge with the comeapart oops cummins.

Thanks guys I was really leaning twds the 06/07 6.0 Ford and after reading nothing but bad things on the Ford I said forget it. My LLY was a good truck to me, suspension not so great but thats a easy fix. So on the hunt for a 06/07 LBZ. Once again thanks for the imput.

whatever you do...DO NOT get a 6.0 ford. Anything but that

1LTREATR is right... the Ford P/S 6.0 is the worst motor to come out this decade. "It's fine if you do this, replace that, strengthen this, and that, and then that, and then pray."

1LTREATR is right... the Ford P/S 6.0 is the worst motor to come out this decade. "It's fine if you do this, replace that, strengthen this, and that, and then that, and then pray."


LOL thats funny ):h thanks man

Funny...but oh so true.

So dodge is out for sure they are just so ugly. Anyone have anything good to say about the FORD 6.0, or is it all bad???

I've posted this before but here goes again. I've farmed with my dad for about 15 years or since i was old enough to drive anything. We've owned a 7.3 f350 1ton, a 6.0 f250 and a 6.4 f250, you couldnt find more ford loyal people. We still own the 7.3, its a dog of a truck but it wont quit. The 6.0 was a complete piece of garbage. After about 100k on the clock it started smoking like a train and a set of injectors later noone could tell us what was wrong with it, good thing it was all warranty work. Oh did i mention gutless? That thing was so gutless i swear a team of donkeys could outpull it. Maybe we just got a lemon? Take that for what you will.

The 6.0 is the worst late model diesel engine available. For them to run right you automatically have to throw money at them for egr and head studs.

6.6 Duramax (best truck, motor, trans combo), 7.3 (workhorse not a race horse, won't do anything fast but will just keep running forever), 5.9 cummins (great motor in a piece of shit truck)...there are not other options.

K so back to Why buy a D-max over a Cummins or Powerstroke???

Personal preference really. Just depends on what you like about each in your own mind.


whatever you do...DO NOT get a 6.0 ford. Anything but that

Unless you want to change head gaskets and do the egr mod..

One of my buddys has a 05 Ram great engine everything else POS IMO. My other buddy has a FORD 03 7.3 awsome truck cant say anything bad about it. And another friend had a 06 6.0 nothing but problems crap power. Thats why I say Chevy IMO is the best hands down. Good Luck

For those of you bashing the Ford 6.0, most of you obviously have never driven one. Mine rips the tires through 45mph without power braking and no I have not replaced my head gasket or put studs in. All this engine needs is a $150 coolant filter than is very easy to install and the Achilles heel of the egr/oil cooler is gone.

No one builds out the tranny because it is already strong enough, people put 150 horse tunes without limping it or burning the clutches. Where I hear the Allison blows the clutches with minimal tunes. However, the torqshift does not have user selectable gears til 2011.

So really I had three gas Chevy's then now my 2006 6.0 with 116,000 miles. I will say the Fords interior is a little more bland, but no Chevy squeaks. Overall the truck is way more stout than a Chevy or Dodge.

I read on both Chevy and Ford forums and people do the exact same mods, egr delete / dpf delete and bigger exhaust. People have problems with the Allison, a $5,000 fix where powerstroke people do head gaskets, a 3,000 fix. For Dodge, I drove a 2010 last week. Better interior than past, though it seemed sluggish compared to my Ford and my brother's 2009 dmax. Which by the way he agrees my truck is faster than his. LOL

So, they all are good and bad, gotta find wat you like. And the 6.0 is not gutless.

For those of you bashing the Ford 6.0, most of you obviously have never driven one. Mine rips the tires through 45mph without power braking and no I have not replaced my head gasket or put studs in. All this engine needs is a $150 coolant filter than is very easy to install and the Achilles heel of the egr/oil cooler is gone.

No one builds out the tranny because it is already strong enough, people put 150 horse tunes without limping it or burning the clutches. Where I hear the Allison blows the clutches with minimal tunes. However, the torqshift does not have user selectable gears til 2011.

So really I had three gas Chevy's then now my 2006 6.0 with 116,000 miles. I will say the Fords interior is a little more bland, but no Chevy squeaks. Overall the truck is way more stout than a Chevy or Dodge.

I read on both Chevy and Ford forums and people do the exact same mods, egr delete / dpf delete and bigger exhaust. People have problems with the Allison, a $5,000 fix where powerstroke people do head gaskets, a 3,000 fix. For Dodge, I drove a 2010 last week. Better interior than past, though it seemed sluggish compared to my Ford and my brother's 2009 dmax. Which by the way he agrees my truck is faster than his. LOL

So, they all are good and bad, gotta find wat you like. And the 6.0 is not gutless.
Well I have driven a few 6.0s from stock to highly modded and yes...compared to a duramax they are gutless. No, they won't burn the tires off to 45 without power braking. You are making that up.

No, the trans will not hold a 150horse tune for long. The ford trans likes to slip so you can pour the power to it and it feels smooth (becuase it is slipping) but you are doing damage.

I have a very good friend that has just under $10K into his 6.0 stroker and that truck is SLOW compared to my old LB7 that is pretty much tune only. My truck is pushing 12s with about $4K in it for mods. He is still in the 14s with almost $10K into it. They have to spray to make any power. With nitrous he might run with me but the power your making all day everyday is the power your making. I can't stand the Ford guys that say their truck is 700horse. No, your truck is 450 horse and your hitting it with three stages of nitrous.

The 6.0 IS THE WORST LATE MODEL DIESEL ENGINE AVAILABLE. They hold the crown for the worst truck out right now. Non disputed.

Also, stock for stock an LMM will walk a 6.0. So unless your modded and your brother is stock then your making that up too.

Why don't you head on back to the Powerstroke forum and feed those guys your bullshit. They will probably buy it.

For those of you bashing the Ford 6.0, most of you obviously have never driven one. Mine rips the tires through 45mph without power braking and no I have not replaced my head gasket or put studs in. All this engine needs is a $150 coolant filter than is very easy to install and the Achilles heel of the egr/oil cooler is gone.

No one builds out the tranny because it is already strong enough, people put 150 horse tunes without limping it or burning the clutches. Where I hear the Allison blows the clutches with minimal tunes. However, the torqshift does not have user selectable gears til 2011.

So really I had three gas Chevy's then now my 2006 6.0 with 116,000 miles. I will say the Fords interior is a little more bland, but no Chevy squeaks. Overall the truck is way more stout than a Chevy or Dodge.

I read on both Chevy and Ford forums and people do the exact same mods, egr delete / dpf delete and bigger exhaust. People have problems with the Allison, a $5,000 fix where powerstroke people do head gaskets, a 3,000 fix. For Dodge, I drove a 2010 last week. Better interior than past, though it seemed sluggish compared to my Ford and my brother's 2009 dmax. Which by the way he agrees my truck is faster than his. LOL

So, they all are good and bad, gotta find wat you like. And the 6.0 is not gutless.

Kind of fishy for a first post?

Kind of fishy for a first post?

I figured I would get chit over that. LOL I have lurked for about two years and joined finally cause I might be buying a new dmax. The full story is like I said, I am a chevy guy, I wanted a 2006 dmax and they were 4k more than the powerstroke so I built mine for 1k, basically egr delete, custom 75 horse tune and 4inch exhaust with no cat.like I said, 115k miles and my wife just paid off her 2006 impala ss so I get my new vehicle. Ford is pretty proud of their new trucks so I am going Chevy again.

I am just trying to quash the myth the 6.0 was junk. 2003/2004 I wont argue but 2005 to 2007 are good. I get 18+ at 60 mph, just did that last night as proof. Bout 10 while towing my brick wall of a tow hauler, 8 through Montana.

And yes my brother's truck is stock and yes mine smokes his and yes mine will smoke the. 2010 Cummings and yes mine rips the tires through 45. I might video it. 300 ft tracks I have left, no joke. There are die hard powerstroke guys that spend piles of time custom tuning, that it what I have. Yes, if you hook an edge or banks up, the torqshift is toast. But the custom tune doesn't just dump fuel in when you romp on it, so the tranny doesn't fry.

So not trolling. LOL

I figured I would get chit over that. LOL I have lurked for about two years and joined finally cause I might be buying a new dmax. The full story is like I said, I am a chevy guy, I wanted a 2006 dmax and they were 4k more than the powerstroke so I built mine for 1k, basically egr delete, custom 75 horse tune and 4inch exhaust with no cat.like I said, 115k miles and my wife just paid off her 2006 impala ss so I get my new vehicle. Ford is pretty proud of their new trucks so I am going Chevy again.

I am just trying to quash the myth the 6.0 was junk. 2003/2004 I wont argue but 2005 to 2007 are good. I get 18+ at 60 mph, just did that last night as proof. Bout 10 while towing my brick wall of a tow hauler, 8 through Montana.

And yes my brother's truck is stock and yes mine smokes his and yes mine will smoke the. 2010 Cummings and yes mine rips the tires through 45. I might video it. 300 ft tracks I have left, no joke. There are die hard powerstroke guys that spend piles of time custom tuning, that it what I have. Yes, if you hook an edge or banks up, the torqshift is toast. But the custom tune doesn't just dump fuel in when you romp on it, so the tranny doesn't fry.

So not trolling. LOL

I hope thats true man, i really do. I cant wait to see this video, make sure you post it here. The only way our 6.0 would have "ripped the tires through 45" would be if the rear end siezed up while getting towed. :p:

I hope thats true man, i really do. I cant wait to see this video, make sure you post it here. The only way our 6.0 would have "ripped the tires through 45" would be if the rear end siezed up while getting towed. :p:

LOL ya, its true.

Really because of the reputation of the 6.0 you can get a 2006 king ranch wit way better leather than Chevy for 27k, add 2k in mods, and still 4k less than an equivalent 2006 dmax. But brand new I am still buying a dmax. LOL

LOL ya, its true.

Really because of the reputation of the 6.0 you can get a 2006 king ranch wit way better leather than Chevy for 27k, add 2k in mods, and still 4k less than an equivalent 2006 dmax. But brand new I am still buying a dmax. LOL

I dunno man, i think it just takes some shopping around. I bought mine for just under 40k, in 2009. Its a 2k9 and had about 1500 miles on the clock, pretty much brand new. LTZ LMM with everything in it minus sliding rear window and something else i forget. And thats Canadian currency too. Ford's around here are actually more expensive than that for the equivalent year. (to be fair it had just come onto the dealer lot about 3 hours previous) :P
But with the experience ive had with our 6.0 , Ford's got some proving to do to me at least, this 6.7 sounds promising though.

LOL ya, its true.

Really because of the reputation of the 6.0 you can get a 2006 king ranch wit way better leather than Chevy for 27k, add 2k in mods, and still 4k less than an equivalent 2006 dmax. But brand new I am still buying a dmax. LOL

My buddy went with your theory of buying the P-Slow over the D-max because it was cheaper and only need a few fixes, but the whole time he had it he complained about how slow it was compared to Chevy and MPG’s were crap. I will make a long story short. He had a LBZ and the fuse box was not grounded properly and kept frying all the computers on board. It was as dealer 5 times before they figured it out. After it was fixed it was fine but he didn’t want the truck anymore and ended up lemon law it and going with a 2006 6.0. I told him from the beginning not to by it, he get GMS discount at Chevy but was bitter and wanted a different truck that time around. He had 6.0 for 5 months and the heads started to lift and rear main was leaking like crazy. He couldn’t believe that what he had been reading in diesel mags was coming true, he was pissed. Needless to say he traded that if for another Chevy cause he didn’t want to drop the money back into the Ford lol. Moral of the story, you buy a truck with a problem your going to have problems. Plus it road like shittt. Glad to see you going with the Dmax, I loved my LLY now looking for the LBZ.

I figured I would get chit over that. LOL I have lurked for about two years and joined finally cause I might be buying a new dmax. The full story is like I said, I am a chevy guy, I wanted a 2006 dmax and they were 4k more than the powerstroke so I built mine for 1k, basically egr delete, custom 75 horse tune and 4inch exhaust with no cat.like I said, 115k miles and my wife just paid off her 2006 impala ss so I get my new vehicle. Ford is pretty proud of their new trucks so I am going Chevy again.

I am just trying to quash the myth the 6.0 was junk. 2003/2004 I wont argue but 2005 to 2007 are good. I get 18+ at 60 mph, just did that last night as proof. Bout 10 while towing my brick wall of a tow hauler, 8 through Montana.

And yes my brother's truck is stock and yes mine smokes his and yes mine will smoke the. 2010 Cummings and yes mine rips the tires through 45. I might video it. 300 ft tracks I have left, no joke. There are die hard powerstroke guys that spend piles of time custom tuning, that it what I have. Yes, if you hook an edge or banks up, the torqshift is toast. But the custom tune doesn't just dump fuel in when you romp on it, so the tranny doesn't fry.

So not trolling. LOL

Alright man I will give you a chance to prove youself...I'm calling your bluff. I want to see a video of your truck light the tires from a dead stop to 45MPH with no braking. If I see brake lights or any boosting you lose. That is what you said.

I have to tell you I have close to 500rwhp on tap with my truck and my will chirp the tires when the turbo spools from a dead stop with no brakes but wont break them loose. You have less power and a heavier truck so I don't see it happening.

My friend's 6.0 stroker has twins, built trans, fuel upgrades, sticks etc. and his won't do it. You must have a miracle truck. :rolleyes:

Man, no faith. Well if I get time I will show y'all, though being a 33 yr old CPA, not something I do every day.

My point is you can have a built powerstroke for 4k less than stock duramax (at least in my market) in 2006-7 years an no one can dispute a stock 2006 dmax can outpull my powerstroke. And it will be just as reliable if done right.

There are pros and cons of each, like all the squeaks everyone bitches about with the Chevys. People whine about ifs on the Chevys but ball joints on the Ford's suck. LOL and if I have my way, I will be driving a dmax soon! :p:

ill put my two cents in her ok out of all my buddys with diesel they all swear by ford all have 7,3s and cummins my buddys with the cummins has not had any major probs now the ford guys not one of them is on there stock tranny one just blew two injectors out the other oil pan rotted thru on the 7 3 u have to pull the motor to change the oil pan
the only huge problem i have had with my dmax is the water pump went out and yes its a beech to change yes my tranny is hurt but thats my own fault cause of not letting off in the 4 to 5 shhft driver error owel hand down d max win imo

Man, no faith. Well if I get time I will show y'all, though being a 33 yr old CPA, not something I do every day.

My point is you can have a built powerstroke for 4k less than stock duramax (at least in my market) in 2006-7 years an no one can dispute a stock 2006 dmax can outpull my powerstroke. And it will be just as reliable if done right.

There are pros and cons of each, like all the squeaks everyone bitches about with the Chevys. People whine about ifs on the Chevys but ball joints on the Ford's suck. LOL and if I have my way, I will be driving a dmax soon! :p:
Your an old man. ;)

Again, I have to disagree with you. I am the perfect example. I picked up my 03 for $9500 and have put about $4K into go fast mods. For $13.5K you won't find a Powerstroke that will run with me. The 7.3 is the only thing in that price range and it won't stand a chance. I am in college and am broke most of the time. If your talking performance on a budget here it is. Approx. 500rwhp, 1000ft/lbs tq and 12 second passes.

Your an old man. ;)

Again, I have to disagree with you. I am the perfect example. I picked up my 03 for $9500 and have put about $4K into go fast mods. For $13.5K you won't find a Powerstroke that will run with me. The 7.3 is the only thing in that price range and it won't stand a chance. I am in college and am broke most of the time. If your talking performance on a budget here it is. Approx. 500rwhp, 1000ft/lbs tq and 12 second passes.

Hey Carter44 can u give me some pro's and con about buying a 03 LB7, starting to look at them due to LBZ being to much cash.

lb7 have inje probs other then that they are the cheapest to build because of the least amount of emmissions crap u have to delete

Hey Carter44 can u give me some pro's and con about buying a 03 LB7, starting to look at them due to LBZ being to much cash.
After 2 LB7s that have been awesome I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.

Things to check for: pump rub, injector balance rates, front end tight, no tuner, no exhaust.

You want bone stock if you can find it. Make sure not to buy from a kid who has hot rodded it. The best trucks are the ones that are bone stock and owned by an old guy who babied it.

You can find them pretty cheap with high miles. I have 220K on mine and it runs great. Just shop smart and take your time. It's a buyer's market. You can find the deals if you look.

After 2 LB7s that have been awesome I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.

Things to check for: pump rub, injector balance rates, front end tight, no tuner, no exhaust.

You want bone stock if you can find it. Make sure not to buy from a kid who has hot rodded it. The best trucks are the ones that are bone stock and owned by an old guy who babied it.

You can find them pretty cheap with high miles. I have 220K on mine and it runs great. Just shop smart and take your time. It's a buyer's market. You can find the deals if you look.

He said it best. I miss my LB7. I have an 06 now and its not near the truck the 03 was...

What does it run to replace injectors with LB7 with over 120k miles, just so I have a idea. Thanks again

Your looking $2-3K. That is why I would recommend checking balance rates. Find the ones that have healthy balance rates with good stock injectors or the one that has recently been changed to fresh injectors.

Cool man good looking out thanks

The local dealership quoted my dad $6K to do all eight injectors in his 01. He got them done at a different shop (not a dealership) for $4K. So it might depend on where you live. Maybe the economy has something to do with the pricing. BTW this was less than a year ago.

i had a 2006 dodge 2500 with the cummins. I liked it, but the tranny didnt take much abuse. I had done alot to it performance wise and towed very heavy with it on occasion (across the scales at 43,000 lbs towed 50+miles) the motor was decent but i thought it rode rough.

I now have a 2010 2500 ltz and it is much better. very very comfortable. I didnt even bother looking at dodges or fords this time

brett

i had a 2006 dodge 2500 with the cummins. I liked it, but the tranny didnt take much abuse. I had done alot to it performance wise and towed very heavy with it on occasion (across the scales at 43,000 lbs towed 50+miles) the motor was decent but i thought it rode rough.

I now have a 2010 2500 ltz and it is much better. very very comfortable. I didnt even bother looking at dodges or fords this time

brett


Damn Straight Dodges have horrible interior and are VERY uncomfortable!!:saluteusa: