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CanadianRigger
07-08-2005, 02:10 AM
Here's a couple of pics of the Kennedy IC i picked up today and some install work. Those power steering lines i mentioned a while back that go into the frame rail make things pretty tight there and the after market oil cooler lines leave no room either. Also the piping seems to be not quite right for things to line up and takes alot of fiddle dicking around to get things close, this might be just my unit being a 2000 though, all in all though it appears to be a good set-up, just friggen tight. I may have to make some adjustments later but i'm running out of time and want to be on the road by lunch tomorrow. One suggestion for this kit would be to label the pipes #1, #2, etc so a guy knows what goes where without doing the trial and error thing to get it right.

guybb3
07-08-2005, 05:59 AM
CR, I am seriously diggin that kawasaki green compressor housing:cool2:

Turbine Doc
07-08-2005, 07:26 AM
Hey CR make sure you do a serious inspection of tubes, the ones I got with my IC set (see my web link in sig) were FOD incidents just waiting to happen, maybe their QA has improved improved at Spearco

Also if you havn't done so already a bead of RTV at coupling joints would not hurt, as at higher PSI's the supplied tube clamps tend to blow off, I swapped mine for T bolt clamps eventually, got tired of them blowing off.

wi65td
07-08-2005, 08:38 AM
Well, that's two votes of questionable confidence, regarding the big Spearco IC install on a 6.5. CR had to fanagle the tubing on his install - fiddle dicking around was the phrase I believe he used; TD as I recall, ended up 'customizing' a goodly number of his IC tubes.

Anybody install a Turbo Technologies IC lately ?

jammingmcV2
07-08-2005, 09:36 AM
Anybody install a Turbo Technologies IC lately ?

.....mine will be here next week:cool:
decided to order a kit as opposed to a custom one.


jamminGMC:D

odee
07-08-2005, 09:42 AM
what kind of area are these intercooler? L,H,W. I'm wanting to try the same thing on my truck, but it's gonna have to be alot of custom work. Is the intercooler going to get enough airflow mounted flat like that?

CanadianRigger
07-08-2005, 09:49 AM
All tubes have a pretty good ridge on the ends so i can't see them blowing off, but who knows, no FOD anywhere, the kit seems to be a little different in design from your install, did you fabricate some of your tubes, i didn't change a thing and don't have time to either. One thing i don't like is a tube is squishing my lower rad hose! I'll have it finished up by noon today.

CanadianRigger
07-08-2005, 10:18 AM
CR, I am seriously diggin that kawasaki green compressor housing:cool2:

Its grabber green. Wait till you see the fan shroud, brackets and new grill.):h

nvmtnlion
07-08-2005, 10:21 AM
Congrats CR! Make sure ya tell us how it performs!

Firefighter
07-08-2005, 10:54 AM
Anybody install a Turbo Technologies IC lately ?

Mine is a Turbo Technologies IC. Tubing is tight, but fits. I haven't had any blow-offs yet either.

wi65td
07-08-2005, 11:09 AM
what kind of area are these intercooler? L,H,W. I'm wanting to try the same thing on my truck, but it's gonna have to be alot of custom work. Is the intercooler going to get enough airflow mounted flat like that?

Turbo Tech IC core is 18"w x7"h x 3"d
Spearco IC core is 25"w x 6 1/2" h x 4 1/2" d

The Spearco unit includes an air dam to reflect some of the air up into the IC. Not sure that the Turbo Tech has this, but surely something could be fabbed.

Check out the "Intercooler - Points to Ponder" thread for other info and links.

FWIW, I did a mock-up for an IC install on my truck last night. Built a box to simulate the IC. Added 2" PVC (2" PVC is ~ 2 1/2" OD) to the box to simulate inlet and outlet. Then I played with PVC tubing and fittings to try and mate things up. I'm pretty close. Just have to tweak a PVC fitting with some heat, and rotate the turbo housing. Once these are taken care of, I can 'roll my own' tubing and go from there.

gmctd
07-08-2005, 01:14 PM
Might wanna 'naturalize' that compressor housing - fan wash across that aluminum housing helps cooling chores required when compressing air.............

CanadianRigger
07-08-2005, 02:04 PM
IC should take care of that now.

Billman
07-08-2005, 02:27 PM
It's about time...

countrycoach
07-08-2005, 02:37 PM
I still have the plastic air dam under my bumper on my 6.5L and really like the clean look it gives the truck. With the spearco kit do I have to remove or modify that airdam? I have been holding off on the intercooler kits because I hate the way these trucks look without that airdam and I hate the way it looks with two big ugly holes cut in them!

gmctd
07-08-2005, 03:52 PM
Still, CR.............

Think about how it might look with two big ugly holes in two pistons, CC.

countrycoach
07-08-2005, 03:57 PM
true, but I have been running this long with no problems, and I very rarely tow more than 7 or 8 thousand pounds (with the exception of last weekend with 14,000lbs behind me in tow). So I guess I will just take my chances than to mess up the nice clean look of the front of my chevy. I will try and take some pics soon and post them up so you can see why I don't want to mess it up. I have spent alot of time and money dressing up the front of my truck to make it look better and don't want to go slicing and dicing on it! lol

Firefighter
07-08-2005, 04:03 PM
CC, you must be a gambling man. Personally, I can't afford to risk a meltdown. I don't have the airdam on the front of my rig and IMO it looks fine.

countrycoach
07-08-2005, 04:06 PM
Sorry if I ofended anyone about the missing airdam or the holes in the existing one. It is just my opinon. I have never liked these model chevy trucks with out that airdam. It hads the frame and the suspension and stuff and cleans the front of the truck up alot. Once again no offense to anyone not running one. As a matter of fact I see alot of 6.5s not running them for some reason. Why is that? Every thing I have ever read said you get better cooling with it on! As a matter of fact just thinking about it, last summer I didn't have the airdam ( the previouse owner had taken it off ) and when pulling a load over a long distance my truck would start to heat up a little. Now ever since I put it back on it has yet to climb any!! And this summer I have pulled much heavier loads!

CanadianRigger
07-08-2005, 05:22 PM
Notice the crimped rad hose, i had to shorten the hose about 3/4" so the IC pipe didn't flatten it.

wi65td
07-08-2005, 06:53 PM
Interesting to see that they don't include the high quality, spring/constant tension hose clamps. I think I'd opt for them regardles of whether or not the tube ends weere rolled.

BTW, nice job - too bad about the 'contorsions'.

Firefighter
07-08-2005, 06:56 PM
I think that came out wrong.....I didn't mean to sound offended or upset. I went back and read what I wrote there and see how one would think that. Sorry for the miscommunication on my part:o: . I guess it's kinda hard to get the tone of voice in to keystrokes;)

Texas Diesel Guy
07-08-2005, 07:01 PM
Damn, that looks sweet CR, Turbo is on its way as soon as I get your custom pressure operated wastegate actuator done. Figured it would be a nice touch on the Stage 1 build you know ;)

bowtie
07-08-2005, 07:43 PM
Yes CR Nice job even the colored turbo housing, although I understand GMCTD's concern with it painted, Can't wait to see you and TDG's invention.
OH BTW TDG You ever find me one of those older manual wastegate actuators?

Texas Diesel Guy
07-08-2005, 08:01 PM
$#!+, Tomorrow, PM me your address, I'll write myself a note right now Bow.

bowtie
07-08-2005, 08:07 PM
:lol: :lol: OK Don't shoot yourself over it
PM on the way

wild willy
07-09-2005, 12:29 AM
CR the grill and hood look good. So do you think the hood helps or hinders the flow of air through the IC. Does the air get pushed back into the engine compartment from the windshield or does it get sucked out and over the top of the cab?

CanadianRigger
07-09-2005, 01:04 AM
If anything i'd think the hood would help the air flow up over the engine and out the hood seeings its being redirected by the IC now.

As to the clamps they seem to be holding their own so far..... continued under the 10...9...8 thread...

D.Camilleri
07-09-2005, 01:58 AM
As for your hose clamps, well I have a couple of hose clamps also on my I/C and one blew off last thurs night on my way to the mountains, towing my 26 ft camper with a CJ7 behind it.:eek: :eek: It sounded like a tire blew, scared the crap out of me, boost was at about 35 psi when it let go. I was only 10 miles from the house, so I turned around and went back home since I was tired and my brain wasn't working very well. I knew that I had very little boost and lots of black smoke, so I just turned off the fueling box and limped back home. With a good light, it only took 2 minutes to find the problem, hose clamp came loose and hose blew it out of the way. This is the second time in 40,000 miles that the clamp has come loose. Time for T-Lock clamps.

wild willy
07-09-2005, 11:35 PM
What made me ask was the cowl induction hood is supposed to direct air into the engine compartment so it can be used as a ram air on gassers. I suppose there is more air directed up into the engine compartment by the IC and it could exit up over the cab through the hood scoop/cowl. I was just checking it out. Thanks

wi65td
07-10-2005, 09:55 AM
Two questions: What are you using to measure IATs? A scanner or installed guage? Are the two brass/bronze fittings on the underside of the IC for - moisture drains?

Saw in the 10..9..8.. thread where your IATs were down around 96-135*F. Impressive drop from your sig line IAT of 300*F.

CanadianRigger
07-10-2005, 02:21 PM
Measuring IAT's with scanner, 2 plugs would be for turbo pre/post IC boost pressures.

quantum mechanic
07-10-2005, 03:26 PM
Did I miss the new IAT's? Just curious as to what your running now and what the boost is after the IC.

wi65td
07-10-2005, 03:45 PM
Did I miss the new IAT's? Just curious as to what your running now and what the boost is after the IC.

Believe that in CRs "10 . . 9 . . 8 . . " thread, towards the end, he posted some IATs in the 96*F to 136*F range. Having said that, from his latest post, sounds like the IATs are at or near ambient air temp. In simpler terms, the truck is not running - something went BANG! Unfortunate, the last thing any of us want on vacation is vehicle problems !

CanadianRigger
07-10-2005, 04:23 PM
Boost is after IC. IAT's are about 30Fto 60F above ambient so far as i can tell guessing at outside temps. Big improvement from 300F!