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handcannon
04-25-2010, 04:46 PM
Spent the morning searching the web for Autometer, Isspro and Glowshift gauges and searching on this site for info and feedback on Glowshift gauges. I found concerns from several years ago about Glowshift and would like current feedback. I need some real world info (not "I heard about" type of info) on Glowshift gauges. Autometer and Isspro have their reputation already and a pricetag to go with it. I like what I see on Glowshift's web site but you know how advertising hype is. I have a limited amount of funds for gauges and if the feedback is good for Glowshift I can get more gauges for the money. I've got 6 different gauges picked out that I can afford if Glowshift's reputation is good enough.

Any good company will on occasion have a product problem, but it is how they approach that problem that can make or break customer satisfaction. I am interested in Glowshift product problems or design glitches and company problems. Also, if you have good things about Glowshift I am interested.

Thanks
Don

mbp1971
04-25-2010, 05:08 PM
Spent the morning searching the web for Autometer, Isspro and Glowshift gauges and searching on this site for info and feedback on Glowshift gauges. I found concerns from several years ago about Glowshift and would like current feedback. I need some real world info (not "I heard about" type of info) on Glowshift gauges. Autometer and Isspro have their reputation already and a pricetag to go with it. I like what I see on Glowshift's web site but you know how advertising hype is. I have a limited amount of funds for gauges and if the feedback is good for Glowshift I can get more gauges for the money. I've got 6 different gauges picked out that I can afford if Glowshift's reputation is good enough.

Any good company will on occasion have a product problem, but it is how they approach that problem that can make or break customer satisfaction. I am interested in Glowshift product problems or design glitches and company problems. Also, if you have good things about Glowshift I am interested.

Thanks
Don
i ordered a tach for my gasser, a diesel pressure fuel gauge, and a turbo boost gauge from glowshift. the tach seems fine, have not tried the fuel pressure gauge, the problem with the boost gauge is that it reads to 60psi and my turbo only builds about 9 psi, so you hardly notice the needle move.

Crazy
04-25-2010, 05:08 PM
i got glowshift pod and gauges n/p yet with it the pods had to little trim make it fix right but no biggie good ppl talk to also if haven any problems and they do back there stuff up

handcannon
04-25-2010, 08:06 PM
the problem with the boost gauge is that it reads to 60psi and my turbo only builds about 9 psi, so you hardly notice the needle move.

I was wondering about that. I wish they had a bigger variety of measuring ranges. I did find a 35 PSI boost gauge in the 7 color line, wish it was maybe down to 25 PSI. I also found a vac/boost combo gauge that was down to 30 PSI. The one I am concerned about is the fuel pressure gauge. They don't have one that has a max of about 15-20 LBs. Everything is way higher than that and I'm concerned that 3-7 LBs will hardly wiggle the gauge.

Thanks for your reply.
Don

handcannon
04-25-2010, 08:10 PM
i got glowshift pod and gauges n/p yet with it the pods had to little trim make it fix right but no biggie good ppl talk to also if haven any problems and they do back there stuff up

Having to trim the pod a bit doesn't concern me. I'd expect some trimming to be needed since it is a moulded plastic part. Knowing they are good about supporting their product is a big plus.

Thanks for your reply.
Don

10second
04-25-2010, 08:49 PM
I am not sure on glowshift, but when I was younger and on a budget I ran VDO boost and egt gauges in various turbo cars, never had a problem. $25 for the boost and $130 on the egt.

funtoy
04-25-2010, 09:19 PM
Have glowshift diesel fuel pressure gauge and it works perfect for me.
Check it after installing with a liquid filled gauge and they read the same.
It also helped me find out fuel cap was cause of fuel pressure dropping.
[Could not read other gauge under hood while driving.]

funtoy
04-25-2010, 09:29 PM
Have glowshift diesel fuel pressure gauge and it works perfect for me.
Check it after installing with a liquid filled gauge and they read the same.
It also helped me find out fuel cap was cause of fuel pressure dropping.
[Could not read other gauge under hood while driving.]

handcannon
04-25-2010, 09:55 PM
funtoy

What's the measurement scale on your gauge? 0-30? Glowshift 7color series has a 0-30 LBs gauge but I was concerned since 5 LBs is only 1/6th of a 270* scale. Is that 1/6th going to show much movement?

Don

revx1000
04-25-2010, 10:22 PM
I just picked up a set , Pyro , fuel pressure , boost/vac and trans temp

The pod had to be cut to fit (no big deal)
They IMO look kinda cheap now that i have them mounted . The different lights is not really that great .
You can not dim them along with your dash lights so at night they can be hard on the eyes
The boost gauge wires do not have a plug end on them so when installing I cut them short and add termial ends so if I ever have to pull the pod off you can unplug them. not a big deal but , all the other gauges have a plug end on the wiring harness. Cost factor I guess !!!!

not sure at this point weather I having problems with pyro , showing some very high egt numbers. changing exhaust in the next week or two and will know then if the gauge is working right or not.

I had shipping issues with them they sent it via ups and I was charged another 36.00 by ups . When called them they said that is ups not them I had paid the frieght on the invoice. The lady there (glow shit) said next time will have to use a different shipping company , I said no fear there will be no next time !!!!

As the old saying goes " You get what you pay fore " .

If i was in the market to buy again I would spend the extra dollars.

My two cents !!

funtoy
04-25-2010, 10:29 PM
That is the one,0-30 7 color. Have found over years the bottom half will be correct on a higher gauge. Can read it very good and you will have plenty movement in 0-12 lbs.
Had two pumps on mine for a while,because it would just die at random. Even with two pumps. After installing gauge inside had 15 lbs. pressure,drove and watch till pressure drop to zero. Thought ever thing was working good,so took fuel cap off. Had read abouut some people having that problem.Never thought it could be me but it was.
Pressure jumped back up to 15 lbs. Then came home and made a fuel cap like i wanted and never died again.

WickedDiesel
04-26-2010, 09:04 AM
I have the trans temp, boost (0-30), and egt guages and the only complaint so far is that i had to trim the pod to fit around the lower part of the pillar around the dash to make it fit. Everything seems to be reading right and i am gonna verify that soon just to make sure. My Egt seems to be working just fine only time mine climbs up to 800 or so is when i floor it and take off up to 70 or so rarely ever goes up over 400 unloaded on the freeway or cruising on the streets.

handcannon
04-26-2010, 12:29 PM
I just picked up a set , Pyro , fuel pressure , boost/vac and trans temp

They IMO look kinda cheap now that i have them mounted . The different lights is not really that great .
You can not dim them along with your dash lights so at night they can be hard on the eyes

I had shipping issues with them they sent it via ups and I was charged another 36.00 by ups .
As the old saying goes " You get what you pay fore " .


Can you explainwhat you mean by "look kinda cheap"? Is it "plastic" looking?

Were you not able to hook the lights into the dash lights for dimming?

Was the shipping problem because of having to go across the line from USA to Canada? In the past year I shipped a loaned tool into Canada and was surprised at how much I was charged for shipping through USPS. Here in the states I would have paid about a third of what I was charged to ship across the line.

I have 6 gauge functions I want to cover (I don't like the factory guages) and that would cost me over 1k with Autometer and close to that with other brands. With Glowshift I can cover the 6 easily, but I don't want to spend the money if the gauges won't meet my expectations. That is the reason for this thread.

Thanks for your reply.
Don

handcannon
04-26-2010, 01:06 PM
funtoy
Good to know the gauge is sensitive enough to show the low pressure that the 6.5 system has. Glad you found your fuel pressure problem.

funtoy and WickedDiesel, thanks for your replies.

Another question:

For those that have the 3 gauge pillar pod.
Was yours the generic pod, or the one designed to replace the stock pillar cover, and how much trimming was needed to make it fit?

My wife has been known to accuse me of being OCD. I'm just a frustrated perfectionist.

Don

WickedDiesel
04-26-2010, 01:09 PM
Mine was the pod on their website for the three guages plus the three guages. It fit over the stock one since mine goes up the a pillar and stretches a little back on the roof but the pod end at the top of the pillar i had to trim the bottom of the pillar where it goes between the dash and the door moulding just to get it to fit still tight but not that bad. Dont know about yours since it is a different year.

handcannon
04-26-2010, 01:17 PM
WickedDiesel
Qiuck reply!! Thanks. That is the same pod/kit I am looking at. I don't mind having to do a little trimming, just curious.

Don

WickedDiesel
04-26-2010, 01:35 PM
And as far as revx1000 is concerned with the lights i understand where he is coming from, the instructions just say hook up 12v, accy, and ground but there are two accy, wires on some of the guages, i have yet to try to see if one controls the lights but even if it does and you hook it up to the dimmer it may not work very well considering they are LED and they react differently than normal bulbs. If i have time i will try it tonight and see but as of now the lights stay on and with the black or white 7 color they dont need to be on all the time like the tinted ones do, so i am hoping that these are just universal instructions for all of their guages. We will see though.

And it must be that he lives in Canada that the shipping got all screwed up, I didnt pay for shipping and it took a max of maybe 3-4 days for me to get them, again probably cause of the border issue there.

Crazy
04-26-2010, 03:26 PM
ok i got my guages hook up to my dimmer switch

i also had trim bottom of the pod to fit dash

WickedDiesel
04-26-2010, 03:41 PM
Do they actually dim with the dimmer?

handcannon
04-26-2010, 09:25 PM
And as far as revx1000 is concerned with the lights i understand where he is coming from, the instructions just say hook up 12v, accy, and ground but there are two accy, wires on some of the guages, i have yet to try to see if one controls the lights but even if it does and you hook it up to the dimmer it may not work very well considering they are LED and they react differently than normal bulbs. If i have time i will try it tonight and see but as of now the lights stay on and with the black or white 7 color they dont need to be on all the time like the tinted ones do, so i am hoping that these are just universal instructions for all of their guages. We will see though.

And it must be that he lives in Canada that the shipping got all screwed up, I didnt pay for shipping and it took a max of maybe 3-4 days for me to get them, again probably cause of the border issue there.

As far as what revx1000 brought up, these are some valid concerns. If you are one of the people that like to turn down the brightness of the dash lights, having bright lights right in your peripheral vision would be bad. It sounds like he could be a victim of poor install instructions provided be Glowshift. I personally like my dash lights at full bright MOST of the time, but do need to dim on that rare occasion. I am very interested in the outcome of this dimming dilemma.

I was warned about the possible "crossing the border" shipping costs headache when I returned the borrowed tool and was able to avoid that, but was still surprised at the expense. This is what I am thinking happened to revx1000, and he got caught in the middle.

Crazy

Good to know you were able to hook up to the dimmer switch. How well do they work? Can you describe how and what you hooked up to?

Thanks for chiming in here!
Don

revx1000
04-27-2010, 11:18 AM
Can you explainwhat you mean by "look kinda cheap"? Is it "plastic" looking?

Were you not able to hook the lights into the dash lights for dimming?

Was the shipping problem because of having to go across the line from USA to Canada? In the past year I shipped a loaned tool into Canada and was surprised at how much I was charged for shipping through USPS. Here in the states I would have paid about a third of what I was charged to ship across the line.

I have 6 gauge functions I want to cover (I don't like the factory guages) and that would cost me over 1k with Autometer and close to that with other brands. With Glowshift I can cover the 6 easily, but I don't want to spend the money if the gauges won't meet my expectations. That is the reason for this thread.

Thanks for your reply.
Don

Yes the "plastic" look to them IMO

When i installed the boost/vac gauge I needed to turn it slightly in the pod maybe 1/8 inch when i tried turn it the face plate turned on the gauge , not a big deal but to me it showed the quality of them. Like I said before, you are getting what you payfore . Lot of people have them and are happy with them. For me next time i will spent the extra $ and get IMO a better quality gauge . Not trying to start any bashing here. just my opion look hard before you buy !!!!!

Last night was with a buddy in his truck (dodge) he has the autometer pack sorry to say but they look alot better IMO

Do the looks make the gauge work better "NO" But remember every time you get into your truck and start it, where is the firist place your eyes go

IMO if they look cheap you will wonder if they are reading correct. Yes dollars add up, I too have a budget and wish list and now on my wish list is a gauge pack !!!!

I'am showing high EGT's right now not sure if it is the gauge. I'am ordering a 4" diamond eye today and hope to have it on in the next week or two. If it is still showing high after that they (glow shift ) will be hearing from me !!!!!!

I had picked up a engine temp gauge here in Canada (princes auto) It is made offshore , there house brand , It is not L E D light and for 22.00 looks as good or better than these from glow shift, has the dim on it too.

Shipping yes it has to do with the border but i have ordered and ship may parts from the states and never be back charged for frieght. When i talked to them it was like you are from Canada o well it's your problem . For anybody that ships from them to Canada, Do not use U.P.S.

handcannon
04-27-2010, 12:29 PM
Not trying to start any bashing here. just my opion look hard before you buy !!!!!

Last night was with a buddy in his truck (dodge) he has the autometer pack sorry to say but they look alot better IMO

Do the looks make the gauge work better "NO" But remember every time you get into your truck and start it, where is the firist place your eyes go

.

revx1000

Again, thanks for your reply and clarification of the issues you have with Glowshift. I appreciate your responses, and, yes, your opinion and experience will be a part of my decision.

Your comment about where your eyes go when you get in your truck is one I had not thought about. Adding some more parameters to my decision making process.

Don

bob87
05-13-2010, 01:09 PM
I'm looking into the Glowshift brand gauges as well.

Handcannon, did you end up buying gauges then? If so, what brand?

And, can anyone tell us how to hook up the dimmer feature on these gauges?

Thanks!!

handcannon
05-13-2010, 10:44 PM
I did go with the Glowshift gauges because of cost,kept me within my budget. They really don't look all that bad, but I might have prefered the Autometers if I'd had a chance to compare them side by side, but that is just me being picky. I don't have them installed yet, in the process though. It is taking me a bit longer because I'm being picky about the install, and taking pics as I go. I don't like the screw method of installing the pillar pod so I came up with a different way. I might do an install thread on the pillar pod and the gauges if I have the time (hunt-n-peck typing).

As for dimming the gauges, somebody on another thread, don't remember whether here or somewhere else, said that LEDs don't like to work very well with dimmers. I have no experience with that so I will have to wait and see.

Don

WickedDiesel
05-14-2010, 09:19 AM
Yes led's do not usually like to dim with the dimmer mainly because they will work with very little voltage so lowering the voltage may not do much of anything. I am waiting to see if crazy tells us how his turned out hooking them up to the dimmer before i take mine back off to rewire it. As said before glowshift gives you generic install instructions so one of the wires they say to hook to accy is actually the light wire, if it does not respond well to the dimmer and they are indeed too bright for you at night you can just wire in a resistor (which size i dont know yet but will test here shortly) to lower voltage enough to cause them to always be dim at night.

As for not having the lights on the guages on all the time i was working on my truck yesterday and was staring at the guages and it was kinda hard to read without them on, I only have the black 7 color guages not the tinted ones and it still was kinda hard to make out so i will probably wire up a relay to have them on during the day but dim with a resistor when the lights turn on at night.

handcannon
05-14-2010, 12:28 PM
Good info WD!. That goes along with what I was wondering about the LEDs. The switched 12V wire is the one I planned on experimenting with on the dimmable dash circuit. The black 7 color is what I also have. I'm almost useless when it comes to electronics so if you come up with some resistor info please post it up.

Don

handcannon
05-15-2010, 12:19 AM
Got most of the gauges up and running this afternoon. I connected the switched hot wire to interior dimmable lights, but no go. Apparently the switched wire to the gauge not only runs the LEDs, but also powers the gauge. With the switched wire hooked to a dimmable light power source the gauge would not power up until the running lights were turned on. With the gauge switched wire connected to a switched circuit the LEDs are on with the key, but it does make the gauge easier to see even in daylight.

So far I am liking the gauges. We'll see how it goes with a bit of time. I decided to order a water temp gauge and a second fuel pressure sender so I'm waiting for them to finish the install. The second fuel pressure sender is so I can see the fuel pressure before and after the filter manager. I am going to put a single throw double pole rocker switch beside the fuel pressure gauge so I can toggle between the two senders.

I also need to figure out a hookup for the tranny temp sender. I was looking at the tranny cooler lines coming out of the tranny but need some info before I go that route. Which of the two lines is the one coming out of the tranny towards the cooler? I want to put a tee in that line for the temp sender. I will also need to figure out where to put the water temp sender before that gauge arrives. Any suggestions?

Don

94bluehd
05-27-2010, 12:49 AM
Hand....
Just curious, What pressure is the fuel pressure gauge reading??

CFH97ReD65T
05-27-2010, 01:14 AM
i have a pyro/trans temp/boost combo in my truck... and just like everyone else had to trim the pod a big but other than that i love them.. the colors look nice in the dark.. they are a bit bright ya but still look good i think. I have a 30 psi boost gauge and i think thats the lowest they make.

revx1000
05-27-2010, 01:24 AM
The hot line or out line will be the front line on the trans
you can trace them up to the front the "hot" line always goes to the external cooler 1 st then to rad .

Sump is the best place for the sender but you will have to remove pan to install. I too have the temp gauge not installed yet but want to do oil and filter service on the tranny and will install at that time .

I see you have the 4" diamond exhaust What are you reading for EGT , boost ??

my fuel pressure reads 5 psi at idle, 3.5 on hwy. 2.5 under load or hard acc.
have the sender installed in filter bleed (made mine own fitting)

duramaxgirlLB7
05-27-2010, 01:36 AM
hey guys, Ive had the glowshift 7 colour boost/pyro in my truck for about 4 months now. IMO they do not look cheap at all...if anyone has seen the interior of my truck, I am very picky that it all has to be perfect lol. The "smoked" look on them is wicked. My only complaint is the pyro is deceiving, it is at "0" at 400 degrees which sucks for cooling down trucks! I love the memory peak recall, espcially since I dont have data logging yet or anything!

handcannon
05-27-2010, 01:01 PM
Hand....
Just curious, What pressure is the fuel pressure gauge reading??

I am getting about 4 psi pre filter. I'm not 100% set up yet, too many things to do at once. Plans are to have senders pre and post filter with a switch between them to one gauge.

Don

handcannon
05-27-2010, 01:25 PM
The hot line or out line will be the front line on the trans
you can trace them up to the front the "hot" line always goes to the external cooler 1 st then to rad .

Sump is the best place for the sender but you will have to remove pan to install. I too have the temp gauge not installed yet but want to do oil and filter service on the tranny and will install at that time .

I see you have the 4" diamond exhaust What are you reading for EGT , boost ??

my fuel pressure reads 5 psi at idle, 3.5 on hwy. 2.5 under load or hard acc.
have the sender installed in filter bleed (made mine own fitting)

After doing a bunch of reading I have decided to go to the sump. I either need to find a weld in bung or get a high cap pan (my preference) that already has the bung ($140-#200, depending on choice). Just needing to see how my money is holding out.

I only had a couple days after gauge install before exhaust install so my readings do have some questions. Pre 4" 60 mph was about 525*, 70 mph was about 625*. Post 4" 60 mph is about 460-470*, 70 mph is about 510-525*.

I haven't watched the boost as much, however yesterday I put on about 70 freeway miles and noticed my boost at 70 mph was 5-6 lbs. The PO to my PO apparently did some towing as the intake snorkle was removed and modded, and a turbomaster put in place of the vacuum wastegate system. Pre 4" I have had the SES light come on numerous times if I pushed it too hard to get up to 70 mph (my Po says he had the same thing happening). Post 4" the SES light seemed to be more sensitive to hard acceleration and came on quicker (less backpressure allowing the turbo to spool up faster?). Yesterday morning I put on a boost fooler and have yet to have the SES come on. I haven't watched the boost as close but I don't think I've ever yet seen it over about 11 psi. I will be watching the boost closer now though.

Don

revx1000
06-09-2010, 12:34 PM
On the weekend the fuel pres gauge shot over to 30 plus and stays. it is the sending unit.

Called glowsh*t today about warranty and yes they will warranty this one. But I have to pay the frieght both ways back to them and shipping back to me. So the sender is 17.00 (new one ) plus 14.00 frieght = 31.00 or shipping both ways cost of 28.00 and no charge for the sender. Hell of a deal yes it is warranted but cost as much as to buy new one. Great warranty on paper anyway.

They claim the cause of the fail is vibration from the deisel engine. So they want the sender no where near the engine mount on a hose over on the fender, rubber mounted blah blah. Them off shore parts are not made the way they used to be LOL LOL

will see how this one last's and yes I got what i paid for and a warranty too !!!!!!!!