Uh oh
Well now isn’t this just absurd, look what just found its way to DuraBurb!

Step right up my friend you are the next contestant on the Duramax Suburban show!
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/2010%20Duramax%20Suburban/c5a3d4fc.jpg

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/images/smiles/eating_popcorn.gif

that is bad ass! keep it up

cool

It looks so innocent in that pic, to think you're gonna rip her apart and put the big bad DURAMAX/ALLISON in it. Waiting to see pics of this one:).

Yea, you know its one thing to rip apart a 10-15K SUV, its a little unnerving to rip a 30,000.00 SUV apart but it was inevitable and there are several more lining up so this may become the mainstay SUV for us here at DuraBurb.

O.k. Guys heres todays news
Body off, these SUVs are as different as they are the same. underneath they are very similar
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/2010%20Duramax%20Suburban/8b50c3af.jpg
11.5 rear went in today too. swapped all the brackets to make it clean. This will be a TowPro version and the only way anyone can safely pull 12,000lbs with a GMT900 SUV.
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/2010%20Duramax%20Suburban/57174f79.jpg
Allison came back from the shop, this donor had a forklift hole in the pan (from CoPart of course) and we aren't taking any chances with a high profile SUV like this so it went out for full inspection and set up as a "red" series, Alto red clutches, some kind of line boost kit and a few other improvements that I don't understand so I'll not elaborate.
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/2010%20Duramax%20Suburban/5160729b.jpg
Monday we will put it together and swap it in.
Stay tuned

Looks good. That Burb looks just like the wifes Tahoe.... hummm... will they do Dmax conversion on Tahoe's??

Sure, like this?
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=360293&page=2
I say that like I know what the heck I'm talking about:D, I haven't done the GMT900 Tahoe yet but in the next few weeks I'm sure one will be coming in.:cool:

Subscribed! This is gonna be good :D

Waiting for the video :D

Will be keeping an eye on this one.

Well guys, here is the latest, had customer work to do to this week too so it has hindered progress. As of now the 6.0L (the only engine offered by GM in the 2500 SUV) is out and as you can see here the LMM is in. Bolt up is still the same in the new frame series but wiring is all new, will be interesting. I’ll try and get the fuel, exhaust and drive shafts in next then its time to set the body. All the 2500HD Silverado front clip parts are on the way, that wasn't cheap let me tell you, it cost 700.00 just to peace together the front bumper.
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/d18d19a8.jpg

Is that truck going to get an emission exhaust (dpf) or a 4"?
Ryan

Yes Ryan, This will be a OEM Stock, U.S. wide emission compliant Duramax Suburban. DPF and all, What the owner does with it is up to them.

what do you do with the gassers engine ?

wow you're putting a 2500HD front clip on?? How come? I like the -900 tahoe/burban front clips 10x better than the -900 silverado HD front clip..

JMO though.

Ben

Hey F.B.I., they get sold on eBay or locally, the donor trucks are so tore up they cant be rebuilt as gassers.

Ben, I understand your plight and I have the complete flawless hoe/burb clip here at the shop for a P/U. I think it would be pretty trick. We are doing the HD clip because as you can see here that is how GM had it set up. Ours will just be white and a 6.6L vs 4.5L:cool:
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/2010%20Duramax%20Suburban/f19f6fb2.jpg

Slick, I'd love to see one on the road.

Well I don't want to get anyone too excited but this is it with the body set checking clearances, it all looks o.k. It will get our trademark de-rake starting @ 2” in the front and working back to the stock position in the rear. The underside of the GMT900 SUV is surprisingly similar to the 800. The DPF is tough to work with as it consumes a lot of valuable exhaust run real estate but we’ll work that out and stick a DPF back 5” pipe on it along with, oh I don’t know, a 6” tip? Or is that a little to much? I don’t know we will just have to see.
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/64f3a765.jpg
Everything seems different under the hood and retaining the SUV nose will require a few extra parts but that isn't an issue for this build.
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/1ee4c5c7.jpg

nice

Man o Man I can't wait to see the finished product. I like to have one of these...

wow you're putting a 2500HD front clip on?? How come? I like the -900 tahoe/burban front clips 10x better than the -900 silverado HD front clip..

JMO though.

Benme too, it would look slick on a truck....

Well???

A lot of other work this week, sorry. I did manage to finish the fuel system and get the 4" muffler delete pipe done, that 5" stainless tip looks nice hanging out the back of the Burb:D. There just isn't any room for a muffler and with the CAT & DPF I'm not so sure its necessary anyway. I'll tie the two tanks together today and then we can set the body. Getting everything for 2500HD front clip proved to be a chore to say the least:(, half the parts that showed up were for a 1500:mad:!!! You can buy the hood at wrecking yards (not available aftermarket yet) but no one supplier has all the bumper stuff. Dear God I had to go through 4 venders to hunt down all the bumper stuff alone. What a PITA! All that is at the paint shop and should be ready next week some time. I'll get some pics up by the weekend.

I would love to have that thing!!! How much?

I wonder what Cali woudl say if I took it in for our new smog laws?

You would have a tough time......

Actually dezl, there is some sort of provision in Ca. Check with your DMV, because there are a ton of Dmax H2's running around over there and they are the same 3/4 ton 6.0L SUV.
Price tag? This is for DuraBurb Sales so high bidder on eBay this month gets it.

I'll start the bidding off at $50!

chev.

$100

50 is about what we have in it, less labor.
Zeros have no value so they are irrelevant, right?

O.k. here is a quick update this is a shot looking down on the frame at the fuel system, the cooler sits under the ABS unit as in the 800 series
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/2010%20Duramax%20Suburban/ab6ed587.jpg

Due to the shorter body of the burb we delete the muffler with a Diamond Eye 4” or 5” DPF back pipe, It dose need to be slightly modified to fit but it works great.
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/2010%20Duramax%20Suburban/7b051217.jpg

This allows you to cut and position the exit pipe for perfect tip placement, looks really sharp and still retains the fresh air scavenging to limit soot on the body.
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/2010%20Duramax%20Suburban/5a829e6e.jpg

Well now on to body placement and wiring.

All I can say is you guys do amazing work.

Ryan

Actually dezl, there is some sort of provision in Ca. Check with your DMV, because there are a ton of Dmax H2's running around over there and they are the same 3/4 ton 6.0L SUV.
Price tag? This is for DuraBurb Sales so high bidder on eBay this month gets it.


Interesting, I wonder what would happen. We (in CA) have new smog laws, I wonder what will happen to the H2's with the Dmax motors. Im will call the DMV and see what they say.

You ever put a duramax in a 98 2500 chevy? That or a cummins is what im gonna replace the 6.5 with if it goes. It would be sweet to have a lb7 duramax/zf6 98 truck.

You ever put a duramax in a 98 2500 chevy? That or a cummins is what im gonna replace the 6.5 with if it goes. It would be sweet to have a lb7 duramax/zf6 98 truck.
TheFermenator did in his 96 Suburban. Ask him about it.

This is such a sweet build.

Subscribing

You ever put a duramax in a 98 2500 chevy? That or a cummins is what im gonna replace the 6.5 with if it goes. It would be sweet to have a lb7 duramax/zf6 98 truck.

It's not easy, I'll say that much.

Yea Fermanator knows that GMT400 territory oh to well, No we don't build on anything but the GMT800 & 900 platforms for the sake of efficiency, that’s what keeps the cost down. My sales guy says we get calls every day for cars and all kinds of stuff but you have to stick to one segment, for all the improvements in the 03+ or 07+ you would be way ahead of the game to sell your 90’s era burb and go newer. Given the option to do it all over I believe that’s what Fermanator has said he would have done too…..right

Hey Dezl let us know what you find out over there in Ca.

In other news we just got a set of prints on the new LML trucks and they finally received Stabil-a-track. So we can now offer that too on the 900 platform SUV’s, how about that and it only took 1,2,3,4,.......10 YEARS! Well now we just have to wait on some poor unfortunate driver.

That just sounds so wrong

I would have stuck with my 6.5 if I had it to do over again. Even a brand new OPTIMISER longblock, new IP, and an A TEAM turbo would have been cheaper than the DMAX swap. Then again it wouldn't have been unique either.

Yea Fermanator knows that GMT400 territory oh to well, No we don't build on anything but the GMT800 & 900 platforms for the sake of efficiency, that’s what keeps the cost down. My sales guy says we get calls every day for cars and all kinds of stuff but you have to stick to one segment, for all the improvements in the 03+ or 07+ you would be way ahead of the game to sell your 90’s era burb and go newer. Given the option to do it all over I believe that’s what Fermanator has said he would have done too…..right

Hey Dezl let us know what you find out over there in Ca.

In other news we just got a set of prints on the new LML trucks and they finally received Stabil-a-track. So we can now offer that too on the 900 platform SUV’s, how about that and it only took 1,2,3,4,.......10 YEARS! Well now we just have to wait on some poor unfortunate driver.

That just sounds so wrong


Well with the new smog stuff they check engine light would have to work ETC.

I am going to call the DMV monday and get some info. DMV's are closed today...damn deficit!!!

Yea Fermanator knows that GMT400 territory oh to well, No we don't build on anything but the GMT800 & 900 platforms for the sake of efficiency, that’s what keeps the cost down. My sales guy says we get calls every day for cars and all kinds of stuff but you have to stick to one segment, for all the improvements in the 03+ or 07+ you would be way ahead of the game to sell your 90’s era burb and go newer. Given the option to do it all over I believe that’s what Fermanator has said he would have done too…..right

Hey Dezl let us know what you find out over there in Ca.

In other news we just got a set of prints on the new LML trucks and they finally received Stabil-a-track. So we can now offer that too on the 900 platform SUV’s, how about that and it only took 1,2,3,4,.......10 YEARS! Well now we just have to wait on some poor unfortunate driver.

That just sounds so wrong

Eric... 2009/2010 LMM's had stabilitrak too. ;)

my buddy's 09 EC/SB LMM has it and its awesome.

ben

Oooo Sweet, I’ve already seen those at auction I'll have to check that out, Thanks!

I guess GM marketing figures that the market is too narrow of a margin to go into production of a 2500 'burb with a Duramax? I think they are really missing the mark on this one. Great job guys. I've seen your offerings on Flea Bay in the past and truly a work of art.

I'm subscribing too! this is awesome.

Thanks Guys,
Still waiting for the color matched hardware from the paint shop but dash is in, most of the wiring is done and the tow mirrors are on, I'll snap off a few pics today if I can get the fenders and hood back. The cowl is different too, even the wiper arms. Every little detail counts, this one has to be 100% in every way possible.

oooooo I cant wait!!!

Oh good grief!! The painter went a-wall, had to get a family member and a poe poe out there to get my stuff back. Off to a new painter stuff should be ready next week sometime. Now it just sits.:( I think I’m goin’ fishing:)

Ya that makes it all better:D

that sucks

that sucks

How does it suck? The man was fishing!

chev.

How does it suck? The man was fishing!

chev.


i bet he would have rather been putting those freshley painted parts on the suburban than fishing

Yea rather be boltin' this sucker together. Its tying up the shop and other SUVs are lining up. I'm so far behind now that as I look forward all I see is behind.

So how did the fishing go>? Any pics?

chev.

A good sunburn and plenty of scrap aluminum to support the green effort. I should at least get the fenders Wed.

Eric... 2009/2010 LMM's had stabilitrak too. ;)

my buddy's 09 EC/SB LMM has it and its awesome.

ben


What is so Awesome about it Our G8 has it and It is never on I'm not a dumbass that needs a computer to make sure I can drive

Even If it is for safety in bad wheather I doubt it works correctly because GM builds the worst performing ABS I have ever seen

What is so Awesome about it Our G8 has it and It is never on I'm not a dumbass that needs a computer to make sure I can drive

Yeah well 99% of the other drivers out there ARE dumbasses and dont know how to drive. This is why stability control is great and why the govt is requiring all vehicles under 10,000lbs GVWR to have it standard in the next year or two. Electronic stability control is one of the best things to ever happen to bigger cars and trucks/SUV's. I really dont care how "good" a driver you are (Ive had formal high performance driving/racing instruction/experience, so I consider myself a "good" driver too), if you are driving along at 50mph and a deer jumps out in front of your dmax, you would be an idiot to try to swerve around it. You cant beat physics; if you make an abrupt maneuver like that in a big truck, you are going to lose control and potentially rollover. Stability control gives you the ability to swerve around anything at any speed in a big topheavy truck and still maintain control/avert a rollover.

And if you are really too big of a man to admit that there ARE situations where you WILL lose control of your big truck, then PRESS THE BUTTON AND TURN IT OFF.

Even If it is for safety in bad wheather I doubt it works correctly because GM builds the worst performing ABS I have ever seen

You are basing your opinion what, your G8 that you own and your truck's antiquated 3-channel ABS setup??? And what else? "I doubt it", what an ignorant statement to make about something you have no experience with.

You havent driven an HD with stabilitrak so you know what that means? Your ASSumption and opinion doesnt mean jack shit. GM doesnt "make" the ABS systems. So if you want to complain, go talk to Bosch, Kelsey-Hayes, or TRW. BTW Bosch INVENTED/pioneered electronic stability control back in the mid 1990's on the mercedes S-class, so I wouldnt blow it off as if "GM didnt put any R&D into their stabilitrak and probably went with the lowest bidder"

The GMT-800 stability control that was put in the escalades and many 04+ tahoes was primitive IMO and NOT very smooth, but it did the job OK and Im sure saved many soccer moms from putting their tahoes and suburbans on their lid.

The GMT-900 light duty truck/SUV stability control and most recently the 2009+ stability control that goes into the HD trucks is very well done IMO. Its smooth, the operation/intervention is transparent, and it doesnt overreact. I have personal first-hand experience with a stabilitrak-equipped duramax's on poor road conditions and I love it, I wish they had implemented it earlier on the HD's.

JMO.

ben

stabilitrak that went into the GMT-800 SUV's. As I said, IMO it (GMT-800 SUV stabilitrak system) wasnt that smooth, and looks kinda crude, but the fact is under the exact same conditions and maneuver, it averted a rollover...no if's and's or but's about it. You can protest it/argue it all you want (and maybe even say something stupid like "oh well If I was driving I could have done that maneuver w/o stability control and w/o rolling over"), but the proof is in the video I think. :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr0_UDCRk00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nss5EUAScag

I have not had an issue with the G8's ABS but the one in my truck sucks even before the lift I have driven a 2500HD with Stabililtrack but I Didn't drive it like a sports car either.

I am sure it helps in emergency manuvers but it wont turn a 2500hd into a camaro or defy physics it will break individual wheels to keep you from losing control.


I cant say that is awesome because I have never used to correct a driving situation. In the G8 when it is left on it just kills the fun:D

Very very cool videos Ben. Ill take traction control any day......

well it took some time but here are the smog laws for diesel conversions....straight from ARB

http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/07_AutoRepair/Engine_Change_Guidelines.html

http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/02_SmogCheck/Referee_Centers.html

but the one in my truck sucks even before the lift

as I said, the 3-channel kelsey-hayes setup on the non-VSES HD trucks is, as far as I know, basically a 12+ year old base design/technology and its origins date back to the mid-late 1990's when the GMT-400 HD's got 3-channel ABS...MTU alum would be able to weigh in on that much better than I would though.

Its not really "bad" IMO, I think the ABS in the duramax's works fairly well, for what it is...it is only a 3 channel system so it cant brake the left/right rear wheels individually, and you are asking it to do quite a bit of work controlling/stopping a 7,000+lb pickup truck that has a pretty awkward front/rear weight/brake bias. The ford/dodge ABS systems in their HD trucks arent any better IMO.

Interestingly enough, Kodiak's/TopKicks actually DO have a true 4-channel system though, but In the medium duty GM trucks ive driven Ive never braked hard enough to engage the ABS so I dont know if it works any better than the 2500/3500 3-channel setup.

I have driven a 2500HD with Stabililtrack

of course you have. And with no way to prove if you are fibbing or not, I guess I have no choice but to beleive you. :)

I am sure it helps in emergency manuvers but it wont turn a 2500hd into a camaro or defy physics it will break individual wheels to keep you from losing control.

Yeah no kidding, thats the whole idea of stability control and how it works... Did you think it worked by turning on an anti-gravity device and relying on hopes and dreams to prevent you from losing control?

ok I will stop derailing eric's thread... :o:

Very cool, looks good.

O.K. now that we are done with the ABS issue lets get back to the 2010 Duramax Suburban.

Parts came back from the paint shop, what a beautiful job! With the fenders on we started the bumper assembly (54 bolts in all), finished wiring and put the ECU into learn mode.
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/2010%20Duramax%20Suburban/819fbe1b.jpg
Yea thats sweet! Gota love seeing a Duramax Allison Badge over a suburban logo.

With the front clip complete this is what we get
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/2010%20Duramax%20Suburban/42b5eed7.jpg
Tow mirrors too, the package is 100% complete
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/2010%20Duramax%20Suburban/96a48431.jpg
look under the hood prior to clean up
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/2010%20Duramax%20Suburban/aadf3283.jpg
Ya know I get a woodie working on this thing, is that normal? or O.K.?
This is the ultimate Excursion killer!

well this should go into the "fail blog" chronicles.

I don't know what happened, I went through "learn mode" like we do on all the trucks but this one doesn't work. Hmm,,, may be time for Tech II or EFI live.

Cant get a crank and Burb just sits there sayin' "service anti theft system", wont go into learn mode.

Any ideas on the LMM ECU learn process?

as a side note there is 1/4 tank of fuel but it doesn't show on the dash, no eng info on dash, seems weird.

dead in the water today

Eric

I am Not a Diesel Mechanic, however I may have a little info that might help. I've spent a lot of time on forums dedicated to kit cars that use late-model corvette engines and from what I've read, it looks as if something has triggered the BCM's anti-theft. If the steering column lock, for instance doesn't match; it'll think you stole it. I wish I knew more...

Eric are you getting any BCM Uxxxx loss of communications codes?

definitely need a Tech 2

Looks like your are going to have to do efi live after all. Although you might confirm the availability to handle the new models.

Looks like your are going to have to do efi live after all. Although you might confirm the availability to handle the new models.

EFILIVE will cover the ECM just fine all the wya up to the 2010 models I believe, but the TCM support for flashing stops at 08 for right now I believe.

Awsome what do they usaully run for$$$$.

Well 66,
these are too green for my wallet, 50-55K but by building them I get to live vicariously thru others.

I guess Tech II is for me, the BCM controls every aspect of these trucks from sunroof to rear window defogger and everything in-between. We don't mod trucks (efi live) just build them. When they are turned over to a customer (Oooooo its the "C" word DP Supervisor's!) The SUV is OEM as GM would have set it up, no anti-theft delete or overrides. Just pure GM.

Checked all the wiring over twice this afternoon and all checks out right. But still says "service security"

I'll let ya all know soon.
Eric

Well change of thought, as it turns out the security system failure is a common problem for the GM SUV & P/U line, bad news is the fix is to update on all moduals in the SUV or P/U. Presents a problem if your running a Dmax in a Burb, the Dmax won't run on a gasser program. So a shot of efi live to delete it is the safe bet.

Now how do we get paddle shift activated in the BCM, it controls that and Tow Haul now so we have to add that option to the BCM.

Hmmmmmmmmmm......:rolleyes:

How did you come to that conclusion that all the other modules would have to be updated? It seems like the diesel ECM should perform the password challenge and response with the Theft Deterrent Module exactly the same way as a gasser ECM.

Floriduramax1 has run into this with a customer too. It was a efi live tuned and heavily after marketed 08 1500 burb gasser. When it occurred the GM service dept said that they were going to have to update the entire truck which would wipe out his tune and render the truck inop but fix the anti theft, he shipped the truck back down here and took it to a dealer we know who is cool and they did the flash update. Then Floriduramax1 was able to jump in and reinstall the tune and everything was fine. This was the first occurrence of this sort of thing we had seen, in retrospect after now googling service anti theft and seeing all the people having this problem (even with updated software) it probably should have been removed to prevent a future occurrence. My knowledge on this aspect is very limited but I cant have a financially coupled guest having this sort of problem.

Now how do we get paddle shift activated in the BCM, it controls that and Tow Haul now so we have to add that option to the BCM.

Hmmmmmmmmmm......:rolleyes:

run a 2009-2010 suburban BCM (or BCM calibration).

In 2009 the tahoes and suburbans got the 6L80 trans (and thus they got tap-shift as well)

ben

Hey Ben,
Yea I was looking through alldata on the SUV and a print for the 6L trans shows a option for a tap shifter. I then was looking at a column pic figuring out the anti theft and noticed the gear selector arm had a paddle shift. My local GM store had no idea, never saw it they said. I'm going to probe some more.:cool:

Picked up floriduramax's efilive, (Big Props to him for helping a DP brother out), bought a license and going to shut down anti-theft and fire this bad boy up.

Hmmmm could throw a little tune to it while I'm in there.:rolleyes:

We are up and running, now on to the shifter.

I have been hoping Chevrolet would come out with a diesel 'burb. It was sad to see they canceled their in-house diesel program. It just goes to show you how stupid Detroit is. Or my personal theory, the government is not letting car manufacturers build diesels. Subaru was supposed to have one, Volvo is supposed to have one--it just never happens.

Or my personal theory, the government is not letting car manufacturers build diesels. Subaru was supposed to have one, Volvo is supposed to have one--it just never happens.

They build them....... Both of those companies HAVE and sell diesels regularly......... They're just not allowed to import them into the U.S........

Awesome build. Glad to see you finally got it running despite the holdup. Cant wait to see the final pics and the ebay auction link!

What you have done is awesome!! Liked reading it and looking at the pictures as you have gone through. Keep up the good work and hope to follow with the rest

subscribing !!!!

It's coming together nicely!

anymore updates?

st Nothing yet, this is the most challenging build yet and what’s worse is there are 2 more here to be built. Everything goes through the BCM and it isn’t a simple reflash I;ve tried a ton of VINs but I’m getting close and I’ll let you all know.

THE BOLD NEW LOOK OF THE DURAMAX SUBURBAN
http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/DuraBurb/51a8ca2f.jpg

that is sweet!!!!

go for a test drive, only for a few days and posting will end just goofing around.
http://www.youtube.com/user/DuraBurbinc#p/u

Nice work... now I need to bring the wifes Tahoe down.

Did you ever get the security system to play nice together? Or does the LMM require EFI to make it work?

Nope, totally different communication protocol, to build these you must have EFILive, TechII and a GM VIN subscription, (the number of modules and order of flashing them is incredible but it works). I will say that this was without a doubt the single most expensive and difficult SUV build yet. We will be cranking them out on a regular basis but it was one really tough nut to crack. That said the finished product turned out just beautiful and it’s all seamless.

Nope, totally different communication protocol, to build these you must have EFILive, TechII and a GM VIN subscription, (the number of modules and order of flashing them is incredible but it works). I will say that this was without a doubt the single most expensive and difficult SUV build yet. We will be cranking them out on a regular basis but it was one really tough nut to crack. That said the finished product turned out just beautiful and it’s all seamless.

If you're gonna do many of them, you might want to get an EFILIVE cable and a VIN stream then to program em. Or find a tuner that has a stream license and cut a deal with him. This would reduce the $100 per VIN cost.

Hmmm thats a great idea

Wish I were still down there so I could come and see it!!!

Here is the actual video link
http://www.youtube.com/user/DuraBurbinc#p/u/5/QDJw5O48ayg

You know John you need to just come down on a 2 week vacation and we can build one together.:D

:eek: i love it. How much???

Don't temp me. If you had offered 4-5 months ago I was free, not that I am complaining about having a job.

Unreal.......................................Love it

Beautiful work!

Thanks guys, it was with out a doubt the toughest but most rewarding build to date and it just go's to show that it can be done.

And its for sale! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160460959617&viewitem=&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D1&category=6155

Very cool burban! Would love to have do the swap on my parents 08 Suburban. Nice work! Best of luck with the sale! Only one question, why no fender flares on the front and only on the rear?

Those were the closest ones we could find to match up against the front clip.

Any reason why GM/Chevy wont produce the diesel suv.......but anyway that is a nice clean Burb

looks great wish I could afford to get one and have you do a diesel conversion

Yea jdugie, me too. At least I get to drive them a few days before they go home. Then its back to the ol' 2001 TDI Jetta, I shouldn't complain though shes about to clock 250K and still pullin' hard.

TDIGUY, I finally joined the forum after lurking for a few years. I have 2 TDI VW's and have been brewing my own bio for 3 years now. My post though is about my 04 quadrasteer Yukon XL. I tow a ton and cannot stand the 6 liter anymore. After searching for a supercharger I found a complete converison "kit" from a 06 duramax truck. After reading all the threads I have some hope I may actually realize a diesel in my truck. I long to be able to pull effortlessly like my Dad's 8 liter and pump my own fuel into my truck. If I ended up buying the setup (6500 and supposedly complete) how long would you need my truck? I also wonder about getting tags if I didn't move the vehicle location to a non deq area. Have you had any customers attempt this? I have seen the guy in CO do a duramax swap into a quadsteer but saw your posts on the rear end. Do you see a huge issue leaving well enough alone or will the torque kill my rear end? I am pretty excited to see if this can be done given your 50 hour estimate and what seems like a lot of gained knowledge after so many units done. Lastly what would cause the most concern about not having the total donor vehicle present?>

Brad

Rear end capability is dependant on power output and towing weight. If both are kept in check than just about any rear end will hold up. If you keep the 06 dmax stock and don't tow over 10k lbs, while being very conservative while towing, then your stock rear end will hold up. I have had my eye on that "kit" but can not justify another conversion right now.

By the way if you live near the St. Louis area I might be able to help you out since I taught theTDIguy everything he knows:) :) :) (I only got him started, he know so much more than me now)

Yea the Q Steer is a Dana 60 but it is a 9.25 if I understand it correctly, we have put the Duramax against it without any issues so as Boise said if you’re aware and responsible it would be fine.

John I can’t thank you enough for showing me what I thought was true in the beginning and for encouraging me to forge thru the first Duramax 1500, I really had my doubts but you stuck in there as my cheering section. Now dozens of SUV’s later and the worlds first & only (for now), 2500HD NBS Suburban, I look back on those times with great appreciation.

The Padawan.

The student has truly surpassed the teacher.

:lol2: Ok John I'll take that

So who was the lucky winner on Ebay????????

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Dude that sucks, do peoople do it on purpose or are they hones mistakes?

Well there isn't any consequences if someone dose, thats the problem. If you screw up with Co Part they charge you a 10% no pay fee. I know I screwed up and missed a win, it cost me 960.00 for nothing but I tell you I won't make that mistake again.

How hard is a swap from a 01 extended cab dually dmax to a 01 2500hd 6.0 voretc burb?

There is no such thing as a 2500HD Suburban, but to answer your question, that is about the easiest swat that you can do. The engine sits in very nice, big job is fuel system and exhaust. Please read through this thread, http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148819 Pay close attention to the attached writeup on page 12.
This should answer most of your questions and answer all of the questions you do not have yet.

There is no such thing as a 2500HD Suburban, but to answer your question, that is about the easiest swat that you can do. The engine sits in very nice, big job is fuel system and exhaust. Please read through this thread, http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148819 Pay close attention to the attached writeup on page 12.
This should answer most of your questions and answer all of the questions you do not have yet.

You are right about the HD part, I stand corrected. Thank you so much for the link.

Yea Josh,
Like Boise said its a snap, you will have to do a little wiring for the TCM to put it on the class II buss and you’ll need to do a little for the cruise control. Nothin’ like the GMT900 nightmare let me tell you.

Yea Josh,
Like Boise said its a snap, you will have to do a little wiring for the TCM to put it on the class II buss and you’ll need to do a little for the cruise control. Nothin’ like the GMT900 nightmare let me tell you.


What does this mean exactly? :confused:

Getting ready to start a LLM swap on the old ladies GMT900 Tahoe. Looking at a doner truck in KY right now. Looks like by my measurements the front six body mount bolts will line up with a crew cab frame. Only problem will be shortening the donor frame's wheelbase enough to match the Tahoe's. Front of rear spring mounts will be under the Tahoe's rear door. Any pointers for me as far as ECM< TCM< BCM interface problems. Both vehicles are the same year and completely loaded.

Huh:confused:

Hey dude frames are totally different, 2500 is narrower, rear is formed completely different. Having built several I would be interested to see how you bring it together, start a thread and we can all jump in with you, a 2500 Tahoe would be cool. You’ll want to be careful of the energy management system on the GMT900 1500 SUV, and watch your front clip, the LBZ+ deeper rad wont fit without a wicked body lift, although if your doin’ a 2500 4x4 Tahoe a wicked lift would be the whole enchilada:cool:



Hey Josh just go to alldata and set up a DIY acct, and pull the prints for the SUV and the P/U and you'll see, there is a bit of a misnomer in that these builds are plug and play and that simply isn’t the case by a long shot but with both sets of body to engine diagrams you’ll be fine. You will be amazed at what you’ll learn just don’t get in a hurry, plan on 3 months or so if you have a day job and have fun with it.


Shew! 2009 2500 Duramax Suburban rolled out of the shop last night, I'll get pics up today, Nick @ Duramaxtuner.com is now doing all the tuning for DuraBurb and what a wicked fast tune he put on this DuraBurb. Everytime you hit the remote start it just makes ya smile.

Huh:confused:

Hey dude frames are totally different, 2500 is narrower, rear is formed completely different. Having built several I would be interested to see how you bring it together, start a thread and we can all jump in with you, a 2500 Tahoe would be cool. You’ll want to be careful of the energy management system on the GMT900 1500 SUV, and watch your front clip, the LBZ+ deeper rad wont fit without a wicked body lift, although if your doin’ a 2500 4x4 Tahoe a wicked lift would be the whole enchilada:cool:


I know the frames themselves are narrower on the Tahoe, but the front six body mount location appears to be in the right place after a rough measurement, give or take 1/2". I'll trame gauge it later today just to verify. I compared her 2009 2500HD to the Tahoe's floor pan. I'll be using the whole HD running gear and frame (shortened of course with the correct mounts attached) as the Tahoe's frame is junk after someone hit my wife. I'll also be using the HD nose so cooling stack fitment shouldn't be an issue. Maybe I'm way off base with my plan, we'll find out soon. I'm going after the donor this weekend. BTW the donor already has a 6-8" Fabtech kit on it, so atleast 35's are in the works. Where did you get the paint to match grill and bumper parts for the Duraburb? Are they 1/2 ton parts or AM? Also where did get the crimp on fuel line fittings. Thanks in advance, Bill

theTDIguy, Did you put the front clip of the truck on that suburban also? Looks great. Do you have pics of the build? I would love to see the entire deal.

Its all bolt on, very straight forward, you need everything though. Windshield wipers to front lower air dam. Paint to match is not available so its DIY and prepping isn’t cheap. I think we have about 4K in the front clip. The front bumper has 54 bolts and 17 parts in it alone:eek:!!

moving on to the DuraBurb version

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3961266#post3961266

those burbans are nice!

There is no such thing as a 2500HD Suburban, but to answer your question, that is about the easiest swat that you can do. The engine sits in very nice, big job is fuel system and exhaust. Please read through this thread, http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148819 Pay close attention to the attached writeup on page 12.
This should answer most of your questions and answer all of the questions you do not have yet.

Off topic but Boise, how do you get 21 unloaded in your Yukon 2500? That's unprecedented...

Shoot dowork82,
The 2009 Duramax Suburban shown here

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3961266#post3961266

gets 23 MPG so faithfully the owner says you can set your watch by it. But that definitely has to do with the fact that it was tuned by Nick@Duramaxtuner.com.

Well it must have been very very broke-in (broken) injectors. That is the only time we have had it on the freeway without a trailer, went 2000 miles round trip, stayed 21mpg the whole time, now injectors are puking diesel into the oil at about 1qt per 25 miles. Hopefully when I get new injectors I may see that 21 again.

Ohh sh!t, whoops, I thought you had a 6.0 in it, must've read over the fact you got an lb7. With the duramax in it, those mpg's are within reason, because I was gonna say, the best I've heard outta a 6.0 is the NBS HD's and they're getting about 17 at best on the highway

Yep, you can't beat the LB7 for milage. I can get a solid 19-20 with mostly around town driving IF I can keep my foot out of it. I've bumped 22 a few times now, but 21 is a magic number for highway milage. I'm sure I could achieve 23 if I drove it sainly for a full tank, but 750 miles+ of driving like a grandpa is tough.

Yep, you can't beat the LB7 for milage. I can get a solid 19-20 with mostly around town driving IF I can keep my foot out of it. I've bumped 22 a few times now, but 21 is a magic number for highway milage. I'm sure I could achieve 23 if I drove it sainly for a full tank, but 750 miles+ of driving like a grandpa is tough.

How are you liking the 3.42 gears?

How are you liking the 3.42 gears?

I love em. If I didn't have EFILIVE to change the shift points and lock-up though, I would hate em. As it is now I go into lock-up in 5th gear at 50, stock tuning wouldn't hit until 56. And the shift points were at just the right spots that at 30 it would cycle between 3rd and 4th alot, and 4th and 5th at 40. Some small changes via EFILIVE and all is well. Since I had 4.10 gears before though, the 3.42's made sense. I've towed upwards of 10K with it now and I could still pull out into traffic and keep up with most cars and pass a few.