: Why won't my Posi-Trac lock up?
thevenin2 04-07-2010, 02:27 AM My rear axle limited slip, just lets it slip?!
Here's the deal. When I go around a left or right
sharp corner in the rain, then get on it, both tires should spin,
then I should fishtail like in the dodge with the AAM 11.5" rear and
limited slip. But I don't. The light tire (inside) just spins and I go no
-where. Is this how everyones is? I am considering a Lok-Right budget
locker in the rear to take care of this. Any feedback please??
monkey62803 04-07-2010, 09:39 AM I have a similar problem so I'm not trying to hyjack your thread. I have just about gotten stuck twice now with my '08. Once in the snow and once in the mud. I was in 4 LO and only 1 front wheel was spinning. Do I have a problem or is this normal??
BHoward6.6 04-07-2010, 09:47 AM First, fill in your sig, you could be driving a 72 dodge dart for all we know.
Next, do you have the G-80? To find out, look in your glove box on a sticker for the code. If you dont see G-80, your a one wheel wonder.
The G-80 will only engage when it detects one wheel is spining 100 rpm faster than the other wheel and under 25 mph.
The front axle does not have any locker or limited slip devices at all.
TheBac 04-07-2010, 09:53 AM G80 explained:
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177007&highlight=G80
and
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=209199
From what I gathered, the G80 clutches disengage around corners, acting like an open diff.
monkey62803 04-07-2010, 11:54 AM First, fill in your sig, you could be driving a 72 dodge dart for all we know.
Next, do you have the G-80? To find out, look in your glove box on a sticker for the code. If you dont see G-80, your a one wheel wonder.
The G-80 will only engage when it detects one wheel is spining 100 rpm faster than the other wheel and under 25 mph.
The front axle does not have any locker or limited slip devices at all.
So you're saying that it's normal for the front wheels to slip---1 spin and one not spin? It just seems like my '08 sucks in the slick stuff vs. my old trucks.
BHoward6.6 04-07-2010, 01:14 PM So you're saying that it's normal for the front wheels to slip---1 spin and one not spin? It just seems like my '08 sucks in the slick stuff vs. my old trucks.
Yep, unless you install a traction device in the front, front axles are a one wheel peel.
Bigred118 04-07-2010, 03:18 PM Any suggestions on a limited slip for the front? Are there any drawbacks?
monkey62803 04-07-2010, 08:11 PM Any suggestions on a limited slip for the front? Are there any drawbacks?
You read my mind........
BHoward6.6 04-07-2010, 09:03 PM Any suggestions on a limited slip for the front? Are there any drawbacks?
Sure, ~ http://www.alligatorperformance.com/locker-rd51-front-locker-89up-03up-dodge-2500-3500-ring-gear-p-3342.html ~
Nope, no drawbacks.
Kota4bye 04-07-2010, 11:51 PM Sure, ~ http://www.alligatorperformance.com/locker-rd51-front-locker-89up-03up-dodge-2500-3500-ring-gear-p-3342.html ~
Nope, no drawbacks.
Except the price tag.:eek:
AlligatorPerformance 04-07-2010, 11:58 PM Except the price tag.:eek:
You gotta pay to play, good parts ain't cheap :D
thevenin2 04-08-2010, 12:09 AM I'm going to put a Lok-Right locker in my front diff (if available). And in the rear too. I have ran one in my jeep crawler for over 10 years, no problem unlocking around corners on dirt or whatever. When you get on the trottle, it locks, and I have never broke one. If you do front and rear, you will be locked up with all wheel drive, makes a huge difference. Easy too install too, real easy.
Bigred118 04-08-2010, 09:39 AM Any non air styles out there? I have never had a locker but I was told that they have more issues than the electric style?
Kota4bye 04-08-2010, 11:36 AM You gotta pay to play, good parts ain't cheap :D
Agreed, and realistically that price will double with installation.
I'm going to put a Lok-Right locker in my front diff (if available). And in the rear too. I have ran one in my jeep crawler for over 10 years, no problem unlocking around corners on dirt or whatever. When you get on the trottle, it locks, and I have never broke one. If you do front and rear, you will be locked up with all wheel drive, makes a huge difference. Easy too install too, real easy.
Not available for 2001 and up Chebbies. I run one in my K5 on my D60.
thevenin2 04-08-2010, 11:52 PM Well that sucks Lock-Right is not available. Anyone with a mechanical locker suggestion? Maybe a Detroit.
Myfirstdmax 04-09-2010, 12:18 PM I am no expert at this but a quick google and I found Lock-rights are available, unless these retailers are incorrect, the front is the same as a chrysler 9.25 inch and the rear is a dana 70 (11"), if you have the one with the bolt in axles in the rear. Just google it and you can find a lot of options out there. I am not sure if the lockrites will just slip in the rear if you have a posi, you may need to source an open carrier, I have not been into my rear so I dont know what it is, sure somone else here does though. FWIW, most of the manufacturers void the warranty if you have larger than stock tires, even though I thought the whole point in a locker was to make bigger tires get a better bite.
deeds 04-12-2010, 03:28 PM The rear end is not a Dana 70. It is an AAM 11.5
20052500HD8100 04-13-2010, 12:51 PM You guys be careful putting a traditional locker or limited slip in the front diff. It will make the front end slide through corners much easier (understeer), and it can be downright scary. I would recommend an eaton e-locker or ARB air locker so you can switch between open diff (safe for driving) or locked up for max traction.
The OEM G80 "locker" in the rear diff is a total POS and I hate it. They commonly break, and they never work right either. I will be getting a detroit tru-trac limited slip for mine. Expensive but sooo worth it. The Diesels and the 8.1 gassers have the AAM 11.5" rear.
Myfirstdmax 04-13-2010, 11:43 PM I am just going by what I was told when I bought hub bearings for the rear wheel hubs, they cross ref the GM numbers and said they were for a dana 70, I knew its and 11.5 inch and much bigger than a dana 60.
thevenin2 04-15-2010, 08:17 PM You guys be careful putting a traditional locker or limited slip in the front diff. It will make the front end slide through corners much easier (understeer), and it can be downright scary. I would recommend an eaton e-locker or ARB air locker so you can switch between open diff (safe for driving) or locked up for max traction. The OEM G80 "locker" in the rear diff is a total POS and I hate it. They commonly break, and they never work right either. I will be getting a detroit tru-trac limited slip for mine. Expensive but sooo worth it. The Diesels and the 8.1 gassers have the AAM 11.5" rear.
That's what everyone use to say back when rock crawling was young in the 90's. I have a Lock Right in the front of my Jeep, a Spool in the back (use to be a Lock Right) and I have awsome traction with no problems turning on snow covered tarmac, sand, packed dirt, river beds (dry/wet), mud, and any other terrain possible. I do not have a pushing problem (under steer) at all on a light weight jeep. I think it's just a myth perpetuated by the air/electric locker companies to further their product and justify their high costs. I remember everyone paying shop to install their gear sets and very high priced ARB's, and for much less I bought gears, Lock Rights, and tools to do the job.
Bartman432 04-15-2010, 09:43 PM When I did my rear gears, the installer put in a Dodge posi unit that is mucho better than the G-80 unit. Mine will lay posi marks all the time on straightaways and light cornering. On hard turns it opens up. I wish I knew the exact make/model they put in. All I know is that it works. I spent $1,700.00 for the new 4:10 gear, posi unit, and Mag-Hytec differential cover.
thevenin2 04-16-2010, 01:06 AM When I did my rear gears, the installer put in a Dodge posi unit that is mucho better than the G-80 unit. Mine will lay posi marks all the time on straightaways and light cornering. On hard turns it opens up. I wish I knew the exact make/model they put in. All I know is that it works. I spent $1,700.00 for the new 4:10 gear, posi unit, and Mag-Hytec differential cover.
My 2004.5 Dodge diesel with an 11.5" AAM rear axle is much better than the Chevy. I will lay solid 2 tire rubber for a football field, and fishtail around corners and what ever else I want. I still believe a Lock Right will be way better cause it's guaranteed locked up under drive line torque. I was just at the dunes last weekend, aired the bald BFG All-Terrains down to 30 psi front, and 20 psi rear, and I drove all over the dunes, even 1/4 way up the face of Sand Mountain. I could have probably made it up, but I didn't want to chance rolling it or something. But, I would still like all wheels locked, and Lock Rights will do that.
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