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yurs78 03-23-2010, 12:16 PM Didn't take long for them to make their move. I can't wait to see how this will all end.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/03/sources-ford-plans-power-increase-for-power-stroke-v8-diesel.html#more
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Crap I just saw this posted on another thread, sorry. The biggest thing I hope to come from all of this is the fuel economy war to pick up. It really feels like the deisel pickup guys have taken it hard in the rear end over the last 8 years. They come out with the duramax and there is finally something that can tow great and still give you good economy on a cheap fuel (at that time), it's a winner all the way around.
If the ford does put down those kind of numbers for fuel economy it really makes the initial purchase price easier to swallow. I hope this makes GM think about the 4.5 again. If the larger 6.7 can AVERAGE 28 mph on a 1,900 mile road trip (one editors trip from phoenix to chicago), then mid 30's is no problem for the 4.5 with a similar engine design. I think our best days are ahead of us boys; looks like I may buy a new diesel after all!
diesail 03-23-2010, 12:25 PM I'm still waiting for Ford to take up GM on it's Tug-A-War challenge.
LETHAL WEAPON 03-23-2010, 12:42 PM How much are the 2011 Ford/Gm trucks gonna cost with all the emissions requirements 55k-65k with a $1000+ truck payment................Better start calling your LOAN OFFICER
stump_breaker 03-23-2010, 01:32 PM I'm sick of the HP/TQ wars. How about GM stating "yea, we only got 350HP and 650 FT LBS TQ but we also get 30mpg in a one ton dually". Who do you think would win then?
yurs78 03-23-2010, 04:13 PM I'm sick of the HP/TQ wars. How about GM stating "yea, we only got 350HP and 650 FT LBS TQ but we also get 30mpg in a one ton dually". Who do you think would win then?
EXACTLY! I'd have no trouble paying $40,000+ for a truck that will last me for almost 300,000 miles and average 25-30 mpg it's entire life.
That is plenty of power to get the job done. Anything more is to get up the hill faster and burn more fuel. (not very necessary but really fun.)
theunderlord 03-23-2010, 04:15 PM It's all just advertising bullshit guys. Y'all know that.
GMC2500HD 03-23-2010, 04:49 PM It is all pure hype and really boils down to preference no matter what the tabloids say...
chevyman_2000 03-23-2010, 04:54 PM what they predicting for fuel millage now? 15? 16? MPG...
chev.
socal2ks 03-23-2010, 07:48 PM what they predicting for fuel millage now? 15? 16? MPG...
chev.
I dont see how adding 10hp will drop the trucks MPG by 8-10
chevyman_2000 03-23-2010, 08:15 PM so your saying that they are getting 23-26MPG?
chev.
zach45 03-23-2010, 09:31 PM there is a new ford driving around brooklyn ny... i seen it twice.... its copper and says all new 6.7 power stroke on the top of windshield
powerdog 03-23-2010, 11:09 PM I'm still waiting for Ford to take up GM on it's Tug-A-War challenge.
Would be awsome I'll watch the IFS break :idiot:
LETHAL WEAPON 03-24-2010, 08:27 AM Would be awsome I'll watch the IFS break :idiot:
And GM calls them HD's.......Hahahaha what a joke
jmqualls 03-24-2010, 09:22 AM EXACTLY! I'd have no trouble paying $40,000+ for a truck that will last me for almost 300,000 miles and average 25-30 mpg it's entire life.
That is plenty of power to get the job done. Anything more is to get up the hill faster and burn more fuel. (not very necessary but really fun.)
Just saw in a 2011 diesel truck Chevy release that it has a 36 gal tank and goes 680 mile. that = 18.8 mpg
yurs78 03-24-2010, 10:30 AM Just saw in a 2011 diesel truck Chevy release that it has a 36 gal tank and goes 680 mile. that = 18.8 mpg
I think that's a step in the right direction for GM but not good enough compared to what Ford is doing. Every one of us has babied the truck for a short distance and I've never seen more than 24 mpg from a stock duramax.
"Ford recently invited journalists to test-drive the new Super Duty in Arizona. During the program, Ford challenged these reporters to a contest to see who could achieve the best fuel economy while driving a the Ford-built 6.7-liter Power StrokeŽ V8 on an 80-mile stretch of surface roads and highways. The winning media team on the first round achieved 29.2 mpg and the second an astonishing 34 mpg! Three-person media teams drove from Buckeye to Glendale, Arizona, in an F-250 or F-350 with 1,000 pounds of payload."
From here:
http://www.thefordstory.com/green/journalists-squeeze-2011-ford-super-duty%C2%AE-for-impressive-fuel-economy/
IMO those are incredible numbers for something around 9,000 lbs rolling down the road, that's one fat pig throwing down those numbers. I don't care how hypermilled the miles are I've never heard of another truck doing this AND being willing to publish the results on the internet.
Sorry for beating a dead horse but I think credit is due. Especially since it should make all of our lives better. Come on GM bring back the 4.5 for fall of 2010!
mightymax222 03-24-2010, 10:49 AM its easy to get those numbers behind a tow truck. ;)... :D
stump_breaker 03-24-2010, 10:58 AM [quote=yurs78;3779680]
From here:
http://www.thefordstory.com/green/journalists-squeeze-2011-ford-super-duty%C2%AE-for-impressive-fuel-economy/
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I just read that report. Those are not real world numbers. The 34 mpg guy was drafting off of other people. Excitement turned to disdain when I realized it was just another gimmick...
Someone posted he was driving 50 mph on open highways. I don't know where that come from. Maybe the twitter link I can't access at work?
powerdog 03-24-2010, 01:42 PM If any HD truck can get 18+ they have a seller ;)
1953drtelco 03-24-2010, 01:49 PM Actual test data showed that the trucks were being pushed by an out of control Toyota with a stuck accelerator.....There is no possible way a truck of that weight and size can achieve those numbers in real life driving situations....
yurs78 03-24-2010, 02:28 PM All agreeable points. I'm very interested to hear what the real world numbers come back some time in May or June from the first people that get them. (they're being released in April right?)
I'd expect the numbers to be closer to the 28mpg highway that was achieved on the 1900 mile trip, still very respectable.
chevyman_2000 03-24-2010, 06:04 PM What I don't understand is whenever I went to look at the new diesels (all the way back to 01) they never posted fuel millage for them. Why is that? As for the above On any trip over 100miles I get an average of 23MPG and on shorter trips it's about 18.
chev.
Carl Lassiter 03-24-2010, 06:49 PM What I don't understand is whenever I went to look at the new diesels (all the way back to 01) they never posted fuel millage for them. Why is that?
chev.
Because the EPA regs do not govern vehicles above a certain weight rating. These 3/4 and 1 ton rigs are all effectively classed as commercial.
Brad92 03-24-2010, 07:39 PM Yep, they figure if you are gonna buy an HD truck, you want power and capability and fuel efficiency isn't as big a deal.
chorizosdmax 03-24-2010, 08:44 PM you guys are jumping the gun the link said they may up the numbers in the futher
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