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JASON 4X4
03-14-2010, 06:25 PM
1. Describe the problem you are having in detail:
With diesel the truck on 1st start of the day would have some white smoke. When I would drive it would have alot of hesitation almost like a miss between 1500 and 2000 rpm if I slowed down it would smooth out and if I step on it, it would get up and go. The truck does this even when it is at temp. Has the engine got warmer it would be less noticable but still there. Almost every time when I shut the truck off and go shopping I restart the truck it runs fine for the rest of the day

I switched over to biodiesel about 150 miles ago and all the problems have gotten worse. I have alot of white smoke on start up and the engine looks like it wants to jump out of the truck. After about 1 min the truck smooths out and idles fine with no smoke. If I step on the gas I get no power and alot of white smoke. I let the truck idle for about 10 to 15 min and I can drive it but it will act just like it does on diesel.

I let the truck idle untill it was up to temp and it wouldnt hold 2000 rpm
after I drove the truck it would hold 2000 rpm

The truck has never stalled and runs fine down the highway

I replaced the injectors, air filter, thermostats, and pmd about 5000 miles ago because of the problem. I replaced the fuel filter about 600 miles ago and just replace the after market filter 200 miles ago mounted before factory filter.






2. Year of truck/engine.1999
3. Odometer reading (indicate miles or kilometers).150508
4. Indicate the model number on the Injection pump (starts DS4 or DB2......).dont know
5. Indicate if you know if it’s a 1500, 2500, 2500HD, 3500, 3500HD.1500
6. Do you have an EGR on the engine? (An F or an S engine code 8th VIN digit)f
7. Air Filter condition (visual check).good replaced 5000 ago
8. Fuel filter condition (freshly changed, mileage since changed).new 600 miles ago
9. Location of PMD/FSD (http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39436)? (ex. on pump/remote over intake, behind bumper).
1 1/2 year old with about 5000 miles on it mounted on front skid plate
9a. If remote mounted, describe wiring harness (homemade or purchased from which vendor). purchased off ebay 1 1/2 years ago dont know vendor
9b. Indicate the location and condition of the FSD/IP grounding wire.there is a wire on the injection pump screw
10. Outside Temperature (C or F). ___70f__ °
11. Service Engine Light while running?- on/off/intermittentno
11a. Service Engine light does glow during start/cranking/bulb check: yes
12.Have you scanned for engine codes? yes
12a. List exact results on engine codes (http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/dtc.php).none
13. Condition of Battery terminals (removed, cleaned and tightened).good with bolt mod done
14. Known condition and age of Batteries.7 months old
14a. Are batteries a matched set of same age?yes
15. Condition of Major Grounds (http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157085) (removed, cleaned and tightened) cleaned about 1 1/2 years ago one to passenger frame has a spot that is frayed alittle[
16. Does engine crank, or "turn over"?yes
16a. Does engine start and run?yes
17. If engine does not start- Crack injector line (http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2188140#post2188140): do you have fuel? na
18. Does your Wait To Start light come on?yes
18a.Number of seconds WTS light is lit.about 5 sec
19. Engine Cranking speed (if you have an accurate tachometer).truck starts fine
20. Are you experiencing Stalling?no
20a. Describe the event (upon startup only, down the road, hit a bump, etc...)on start up and going down the road
20b. Do you notice loss of dash or instruments?no
21. Check turbo inlet and air filter for obstructions.fine
22. In a no-hot start, pour a bottle of room-temp water on the injection pump. Does it start now?n/a
23. Lift pump test (http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39350) - Describe results.works fine
24. Upon cold start, does the radiator hose get hard quickly? no
25. Upon cold start, do you have excessive white smoke? yes
26. Do you have excessive cranking time before the engine starts? no
27. Have you used the block heater? Does it affect engine starting? (only try for starting problems).does not smoke as much
28. Are all glow plugs in proper working order (http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39182)? new 5000 miles ago just did voltage test on all wires then did amp test on all plugs

29. During hard acceleration, do you have excessive black smoke? no
30. Do you have any unusual exhaust smoke issues? white at start up on diesel and utill it warms up with biodiesel
31. Turbo check out (http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39368) - pass
32. Indicate fuel that you are using: Bio-Diesel, #2 Diesel, SVO/WVO, other had problem on diesel then switched to bio and it has been worse biodiesel passes water and soap test is under 41ppm
32a. If running Veggie Oil fuel setup, indicate details of your conversion (homemade or packaged system).n/a
33. Are you using any fuel additives? If so, please list.no
34. Upon unscrewing fuel cap, do you have a large vacuum formed in the tank? i can hear air but i dont know if it is vacuum or pressure i did pull the diesel cap apart and the one way vent worked fine
35. Do you have oany service history available that might pertain to the problem you are having?no
36. Please indicate any modifications to the vehicle that might help us diagnose better.home made turbo master but had the problem before
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jetech1
03-15-2010, 03:08 PM
Possible leaking injectors

JMJNet
03-15-2010, 04:03 PM
What kind of new injectors did you put?

JASON 4X4
03-15-2010, 06:55 PM
i dont remeber what comapay i bought them from but it is one of the vendors on this site
they were remans not brand new i think they were delphi

JASON 4X4
03-21-2010, 10:21 AM
replaced the injection pump with one from another truck i have and the problems are all gone