My 2004 Ford 6.0 King Ranch 4x4 is in the shop, new head gaskets and heads. I have owned a 99, 01 and 03 Ford 7.3. This new 6.0 engine is having alot of problems. I NEED HONEST HELP!

Should I sell and get a Duramax and what kind of problems are the 05 Duramax having? I pull a 10k fifth wheel. I need a truck that I can trust!

Thanks

You would be a brave man to hang onto a 6.0L after warranty expires IMHO.

I don't know about the next Gen. PS or DM But some of the older DMs and 6.0 PSs are POS!! Especially if you mof them!!

Now is the best time to buy a GM truck, employee discount.

Get a duramax

ROFL.... I would guess you already have your mind made up asking that question here. All you will get is support on the idea. The next question is do you get the current model at GMS pricing or wait for the 06 and enjoy the higher power at the expense of being a beta tester. :ro)

Once you drive a duramax, you wish you never owned anything else:cool:

Why not tuff it out until the 07 Twin Turbo Ford Powerstroke comes out? Supposed to have 700ft. lbs of torque and 350+ HP:ro)
Not trying to bash the D-max or anything, Its a good motor with a awsome tranny.

BTW,I'm new here & look forward to reading. I own a 77 3/4 ton Chevy, Waiting for a Cummins repower. I won't tell what our other truck is:rolleyes:

I was in a similar quandry (but I was moving from a healthy 7.3PSD), then again the '07 PSDs may have infant mortality probs. too (based on recent history). I chose to switch brands and the current sale is a lot of incentive to do so. I saved about $8k over what a well discounted '05 Ford (similarly equiped) would have cost.

Some here have reported some heat issues on the '04.5s and '05s. And I notice GM is making substantial changes in cooling for '06, so my guess is that might be something you'd have to deal with. Most seem to be fine and/or get a bigger tranny cooler and they're good-to-go.

I haven't put a big load on mine yet, so no personal experience from me other than I have seen higher than expected tranny temps up slow/steep grades when not in tow/haul (but the truck was empty too).

Good luck, these deals are real...

I also came from a Ford(V10) , my Chevy has a way nicer fit and finish. No wind noise like the Fords and way more power than my old gasser. I tow about 10K and have never had issues running hot(trans or motor) as some others have experienced. Awesome truck.

My 2004 Ford 6.0 King Ranch 4x4 is in the shop, new head gaskets and heads. I have owned a 99, 01 and 03 Ford 7.3. This new 6.0 engine is having alot of problems. I NEED HONEST HELP!

Should I sell and get a Duramax and what kind of problems are the 05 Duramax having? I pull a 10k fifth wheel. I need a truck that I can trust!

Thanks

:exactly: lol!!sorry...had to

Either go back to a 7.3 or get a Duramax

Duramax's are good in my opinion, my 02 LB7 has 100K on it is well maintained.

You might try getting Ford to buy the vehicle back given all the problems with the 6.0's. They've bought back several hundred, you might get lucky. This way you won't take it too much in the shorts on a trade. ;)

The Duramax is a strong platform coupled with the Allison. Numerous guys on the DP tow very heavy with their light duty trucks. At 10k lbs you shouldn't have any problems. Good luck! JJ :)

TXaggie88- Post back as soon as You decide . I sort of in the same boat. I own an03 6.0 psd . So far no problems . BUT! I just don't like the way Ford is dealing with the folks that are having problems . And upon hearing that Mother Ford is coming out with an entirely new engine ,well, it doesn't make me feel any more confident in their support of the 6.0 . I've Looked at both GM and DC. My nod goes to GM . I'm waiting to see what changes (if any) the do for the 06 models . Good luck ,and hope we can both find a truck we trust . John

Have friend with a PS. He seems to like it and has not had any problems in about 40k miles. I got the Dmax for the Allison. Let me tell you IT WORKS! Came down the mountain last Monday. 20,650 scaled weight and it would never let me get above 40 on a 6% grade. Going up the same grade on Friday Nite I had to back out at 50 to safely make the turn I knew was comming up.

I just traded in my Ford F-350 with the 6.0. I also had the leaking head gasket problem. Its just that ford kept saying there is nothing wrong with my heads, but they sure were quick to replace the coolant resivior and caps. I'm not brand loyal so I tend to tell it like it is. Ford is way better looking, has more room, more power,and rides better. GM is more comfortable, has more wiz bang gagetry,handles better turns tighter, but tends to run hotter ie coolant, EGT's, and Transmission.( No I havent hooked a trailer to the Dmax yet). Ford will run about 130 mph with speed limiter removed, has higher RPM range. GM turns about 3200 RPM at 95 MPH. GM needs either bigger tires, higher gearedrear end ie. 342. or a taller overdrive gear, or maybe a combination of all three. Overall I think the duramax is a tougher engine. The 6.0 only has 10 head bolts per head. although the 6.0 bottom end is very beefy. please forgive the long speach and improper grammer and spelling. I am a mechanic not an English teacher.

Only get the Duramax if you don't really mind sitting on the side of the road in the summer. Read the over heating thread and then ask your self if you want a new Duramax-:t -:t -:t
Get a dodge, I personally will sit on the side of the road before I get a dodge, but that is my choice not my advise.
Dan

I have had two f-350's before my gmc. I am not a total brand fanatic like some. My fords were great trucks with very little mods. But I honestly have to say even with some small issues with my 05. I am really sold on the GM. If you drive one with moderate upgrades you will not go back. To date I have converted two guys over from Fords with letting them drive my truck with only an edge, banks and intake. My truck has smoked and out pulled every one of my friends Fords. dont take my word for it I am not near as knowlegable as all the guys on this site but thats my opinion.

p.s. I pull a 33.5 ft. fith wheel with a 97 jeep wrangler inside. total weight I guesstimate at about 14k and I can keep up with traffic up any hill.

I just bought a 05 DMAX and thought it had an overheating problem but figured out that it was actually an ill fitting front bra. There is also a plastic flap that is supposed to direct airflow through the slots in the bumper that was folded back the wrong way, you guys with heating issues might want to check that one out.The fit and finish not to mention all the bells and whistles (options) available for the Chevy put it in a class all its own. You guys will be crying in your beer when you hear what i paid.
05 4x4 DMAX/ALLison Dually (Victory Red)
DVD - Rear entertainment system
Sliding rear window (I have since put a matching red shell on it w/ the carpet kit/sofa bed)
Factory sunroof (1rst year avail)
Bose snd system w. subwoofer(rocks!)
XM
steering wheel controls for sound system
On star
every other option available
$42,500 out the door, bought in TX.

I receieved a $16,500 tax credit for the seeling price of my old truck (TX. thing) and only got this deal because a high school freind of my bro's owns the dealership. I also had to order it but was given a 05 Dodge /Cummins as a loaner so it was painless...When the dealer survey arrives in my mailbox, you can imagine the rave review I will give the dealership. The truck stickered @ $50,500!!

I just drove my friend up to minnesota two weeks ago to pick up his new 06 6.0 PSD. Its in the shop right now for a possible rear main seal leak and losing a large amount of oil. The thing is there isnt any oil drips on the ground just a little seepage at the back of the motor. I dont think he just has problems with the rear main seal it could be head gaskets or something. If theres nothing on the ground that doesnt explain where 2 or 3 quarts of oil went. His truck only has 2500 miles on it and is only two weeks old.

Also, on this trip i rode in his truck a little bit at IRP (DHRA event) in the 95+ degree weather. At idle his A/C would not keep up, it would pretty much blow warm air. My trucks A/C has never gotten warm when idling on me, always blows cold and keeps the cab cool.

Granted my duramax had a few minor issues when i first got it, exagerrated by the fact that my dealer is incompetant and i wouldnt let them keep the truck overnight. But there was nothing ever mechanically wrong with my trucks motor, my issues were programming. My truck now has 18000 miles on it and is running awesome. On that trip I got my highest ever mileage, 20.7, which I am really happy with.

The fact that ford is already has a new motor in the works for 07 when they just introduced a motor in 03 wouldnt make me feel too good about owning a 6.0 PSD.

There is only one thing that the ford trucks have, that i wish GM would put in (and i think they will eventually), a rear power sliding window. I have a crew cab and in order to open the rear window i have to get out of the truck and get it from the back seat. That is the only thing that i think Ford has up on GM in the interior.

Don;t waste ur money on a POS DMAX, trust me my 04 6.0 will smoke a stock one no problem and pulls like a MOFO.........

Don;t waste ur money on a POS DMAX, trust me my 04 6.0 will smoke a stock one no problem and pulls like a MOFO.........
Let me ask you this.......do ALL you ferd guys live in dream world??? :rolleyes:

i have to ask the guys who are having problems with their 6.0 Fords this question. have you modded/chipped the motor? thats where the majority of problems are comming from, modded/chipped motors. thats also why it voids your factory warrentie when you chip your 6.0.
i have a 2005 F250 with the 6.0 and it has been flawless for 12k km now. not one issue with the motor or tranny. it is by far the best truck i have owned and i have owned chevy's dodges and fords.

Maybe you should test one out, might try towing with it etc......I have owned fords in the past and have not been too impressed with their longevity and quality. I definetly like the looks of the ford more than the chev/GMC and the fords parts are probably cheaper as well as suspension parts, but the DMAX and the allison tranny were the selling points with me! Personally, I would wait till Toyota launches it's diesel powered truck in 07 or 09....IMO

Buy a PSD cause they pull like a MOFO..? I don't know if I want anything that pulls like that. If your gonna buy a Ford, wait for there new motor and give it a year.

it'll out pull a DMAX straight up, bring your junk to TN and well see whos king of Rockwood Mountain

it'll out pull a DMAX straight up, bring your junk to TN and well see whos king of Rockwood Mountain
your ferd will pull straight up?

maybe you should put it against the space shuttle.....:lol:

Yeah, well whatever... furd boys...

What color is the sky on your planet?

This PSD smokes DMAXs and pulls straight up (huh??)- gotta be those tinted windows!

Boy, I'm having the opposite problem, I can't get my lb7 hot enough. Its almost impossible for me to get it over 190 in the dead of summer while towing. Wish I knew if the fan worked, because I never hear it either. Damn, I think I see frost on my valve covers...:p:

Well, as far as capacities go, the Ford is thousands of lbs. ahead of dmax's and cummins', both in hauling and towing (2005+). Also, the based on dyno results, the 6.0 PSD Ford produces the most HP/TQ at the rear wheels. So even though the 6.0 PSD is rated slightly less than the dmax/ctd, the efficient tranny produces more towing power than the other guys.

So in a stock configuration, the 6.0 PSD out tows everyone else.

On the other hand, the dmax's/ctd are easier to mod (though this is changing) and the 6.0L is being phased out.

I love my 2005 6.0 PSD...wouldn't change a thing and plan on sticking it out for the duration. At least until the 100k warranty runs out. ;)

Good luck!

No it is quite realistic actually. We do , however, make dumb decisions on occasion. LIKE BY A POS GM PRODUCT THAT COULDN'T HOLD FORD'S JOCKSTRAP ON ITS BEST DAY PULLIN!!! But if you like towin' slower or running at 245* definitely buy a new GM. They do ride nice though!! Thanks.....I feel much better now.:rant: Let me ask you this.......do ALL you ferd guys live in dream world??? :rolleyes:

Hmm... My bud's 04 6.0 and my 05 LLY can both pull his trailer over Donner pass at nearly the same speeds and nearly the same engine temps, get over your brand loyalty already! Admit it the 6.0 has it's problems, as does the Dmax and Cummins. You take what you get, right now the Ford happens to have more problems with the 6.0 than GM and Dodge have with their respective motors but that will change.

So did he ever trade?

William

Also, on this trip i rode in his truck a little bit at IRP (DHRA event) in the 95+ degree weather. At idle his A/C would not keep up, it would pretty much blow warm air. My trucks A/C has never gotten warm when idling on me, always blows cold and keeps the cab cool.


This is probably user error. The default power on state for the A/C is auto mode. And it's set at comfortable temp, probably 72 deg. It doesn't make the cab 72 deg, but it blows 72 deg air. On a hot day, you need it colder.

You need to manually press the cold button and adjust the air temp down to 60 deg. It works great! Brrrrrr! Even on the hottest days in idle.

No it is quite realistic actually. We do , however, make dumb decisions on occasion. LIKE BY A POS GM PRODUCT THAT COULDN'T HOLD FORD'S JOCKSTRAP ON ITS BEST DAY PULLIN!!! But if you like towin' slower or running at 245* definitely buy a new GM. They do ride nice though!! Thanks.....I feel much better now.:rant:
:blahblah: ummm......ok

Got ride of my 03 6.0 F250 two months ago for 05 3500 srw dm glade i did as nothing but trouble with the first one, Also f*** doing everything to avoid warranty issues. Love this truck and so far not issues and i pull a 14000 fifth wheel have not been in mountains yet but with 97 (heat index 107) and short 6 7 percent hill never above 200 on either trans or eng gages. fan kicked on a very few times. Only bug i have is fan coming on in mornings when i first start almost always. Other times it comes on when has set for awhile. but on those times it goes off maybe 30 sec. where as in Am minutes or 2 or 3 miles before it goes off. Does this tow or empty 65 on 90 deg in Am makes no diff.

ken

snoeproe

Never modded anything but it leaked oil from day one. they flashed it several times each time took Power and mileage away. Its favorite thing was to act up(stall out or go into super lag mode) stop turn off start back up was good to go. and the last straw was when they found the oil leak to be between the two lower half and ford tried to void warranty. Took big fight and having to force Ford, they finally read the black box history showing it fact never had a chip or after market program they fixed it. Turn out it was machine wrong at factory. this they new all along as i showed them the posting of all the ones from 03 and early 04 where ford bought them back. thanks to the internet and sites like these. It makes us all aware to whats happening. PS ford bought it back and I just smile and walked across the street with my check from ford and got my Chevy. and now i have the truck i first had with ford before all there deprogramming BS . sorry this is so long but that is my facts. (many other things that the 05' still have going ON. ASk this question to a Ford Master diesel tech DO you or woulfdyou own a 6.0l deisel. I know the answer. as I HAVE ASKED THAT QUESTION ALL OVER THE COUNTRY EVERYTIME I HAD TO TAKE IT IN BECUASE IT CRAPED OUT ON TRIPS. RESOUNDING NO!.)
ken

Only bug i have is fan coming on in mornings when i first start almost always. Other times it comes on when has set for awhile. but on those times it goes off maybe 30 sec. where as in Am minutes or 2or 3 miles before it goes off. Does this tow or empty 65 on 90 in Am makes not diff.
ken
Mine does this, too... makes no sense to me, maybe cycling the fan is suppose to help the engine come up to opperating temp quicker similar to the VVT closing in cold weather high idle to build backpressure? Must put more load on the engine to create heat quicker? This is somewhat annoying, but I consider it to be a very minor issue compared to some of the major problems that others have experienced with both the 6.0PSD's & DM's and their dealers.

txaggie88, best of luck on your decision to keep or bag the 6.0PSD... Most of us can agree that both the ford and chevy products are pretty solid in general, I think that customer service is the most important factor to consider. My dealership made a personal commitment to maintain complete customer satisfaction when I bought my truck, because they hope I'll buy my next one there someday as well.

-AJ

the fan on my truck comes on every morning... for about two miles. No big deal.

You knucklehead brand loyalty guys make me laugh...:cool: GM or Ford doesn't give a schiz.

I have a D Max, but have had a 6.0 PSD too..
The PSD had issues, but got better fuel milage. Toatlly awesome until it needed a tranny at 12,000. Just plain worn out.
Two other friends PSDs have had head issues..and left them on the side of the road.

I think this D Max/Allison will hold up better. But I'm still not raving about it.

I have not had a Dodge yet.. Old school proven engine, gets good milage, terrible auto trannys....