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jonekelly
03-06-2010, 06:54 PM
2003 Silverado 2500HD Diesel, short bed, crew cab

I did a search and read many of the other posts about replacing the idler and pitman arms. Realizing that this is going to be an ongoing issue, I decided to tackle it myself. I had to invest in a 2 arm jaw gear puller 4" for 23.49 at Advance Auto. I also have to buy a 1 5/16" wrench to get the nut off the power steering unit.

Idler arm was easy as I removed both the idler arm and the idler pivot assembly. I used a 2 arm jaw gear puller to separate the other end from the centerlink.

For the pitman arm, I don't recommend removing the power steering unit. Take a screw driver and slide the rubber seal above the pitman arm upward toward the power steering unit as far as it will go. Then use a Dremel to cut two slots about 1/2" apart. I used the one with the quick change end on it since these cutoff wheels are a bit bigger than the old style Dremel cutoff wheels. I took it as close to the steering shaft as possible. Once you do this, it is very easy to put a steel chisel in there and pry the 1/2" piece until the rest of the metal splits. The 2nd slot really gives it a place to spread as you lightly tap the chisel with a hammer. I hammered at an angle so I wasn't really trying to drive the chisel down into the slot if this makes sense. No need to go crazy and damage anything with the steering unit. I used a 2 arm jaw gear puller to separate the other end from the centerlink.

I used a MOOG pitman arm but I can say for sure it isn't as beefy as the stock one where it holds the balljoint that goes down into the centerlink. If it weren't Saturday and I could have waited till Monday, I would have gone to Chevy for a stock one. Since I don't offroad and only run stock tires, I am pretty comfortable with what I got.

I had the Cognito Motorsports idler/pitman kit and the idler pivot assembly. I decided to install the kit even though I read a few other having some issues with a broken MOOG pitman arm. It easiest to take everything off at once and then put things together on each side loosely before tightening everything down. Don't worry about getting your pitman or idler arms on wrong. There are either 3 or 4 slots so the pitman can only go on the same way the old one came off. You would have to be an idiot to mess it up...especially if you have a 3 slot unit. It doesn't matter about the idler arm at all.

Good luck, I think I covered everything. Again, I am not a master mechanic. This was not a hard project and I wouldn't hesitate to do it again. Total time for all this work was 4 hours including running back and forth to the garage for more tools...and keeping up with WVU/Villlanova basketball game. I am betting I could do it in 2.5 hours next time. Honestly, I wasted a bunch of time always having the wrong socket or not a deep enough socket.

BTW, my steering was really sloppy. I had my wife move the steering wheel back with all four tires on the ground while I watched for movement. It was obvious the play was coming from the pitman arm balljoint and the idler arm balljoint. After this, I jacked up each side of the front end to test the wheel bearings. Luckily, there was no movement when I tried to wiggle the wheel in any direction. With one front tire on the ground and the other in the air, I had about 1.5" of play when I wiggled the wheel. Hope this makes sense.

KEVINL
03-07-2010, 12:00 AM
good info


Thank You

mine needs it I just keep putting it off

P.W.
03-07-2010, 09:27 AM
Thanks for taking the time to write this up!


PeeWee

KevinsDMAX
03-07-2010, 09:55 AM
Jonekelly...how many miles did you have on your steering components? Are you tires much bigger than stock?

I have 86K and wonder if I need to do this as well, but I really can't tell about steering slop, but I only drive my truck so don't really know anything else.

Thanks
Kevin

jonekelly
03-07-2010, 02:20 PM
stock tires with 108,000 miles on the truck.

driver's side wheel bearing assembly went out at 50k.
passenger side wheel bearing assembly replaced at 95k even though it wasn't bad.

jack up one front tire and try to move it side-to-side. If you can move it like an inch then you definitely have something loose in the front end. I drove my truck about 30k with looseness in the steering. Ultimately, cupped front tire made me do this. It wasn't the end of the world driving with loose steering...but this sure does feel better.

My step-son lives in Wichita Falls. You ride a crotch rocket? If so, you might know him. He is in a big riding club that meets on Sundays at one of the Taco Bells.

KevinsDMAX
03-07-2010, 03:09 PM
No...I think I would kill myself, but I see them driving up and down Kemp Blvd. Really small world.

KEVINL
03-07-2010, 05:54 PM
When I jack up one wheel and try to check for play the only thing I notice is the centerlink rocks back

I cant really see any play at any of the joints at any of the joints themselves

jonekelly
03-07-2010, 11:12 PM
No...I think I would kill myself, but I see them driving up and down Kemp Blvd. Really small world.

Actually, he's gotten out of riding on the street. He only rides on tracks now in Oklahoma mostly. His bike isn't even close to be street legal now.

jonekelly
03-07-2010, 11:14 PM
When I jack up one wheel and try to check for play the only thing I notice is the centerlink rocks back

I cant really see any play at any of the joints at any of the joints themselves

Sounds like you are in good shape then. :-)

I just put 2 new batteries in too. 770 cca instead of the 675 factory. Definitely turns over way faster considering the factory batteries are 7 years old and wouldn't start the truck when it was 25 degrees out the other morning.

ACM
03-08-2010, 09:44 AM
I'll be doing this project for the second time in about 10,000 miles. been having a jangy feel in the steering and jacked up the front and found about a half inch of play on either side in the front tires. I was originally looking at upgrading with full set of cognito braces, moog idler/pitman arm, and a supersteer idler brace. I'm now doing more research and considering the Exaxt steering kit. Sounds like there are a few people on here havingh great success with it.

P.W.
03-08-2010, 06:58 PM
Yep! Just ordered my exaxt kit! Fix it right and be done with it. ;)



Pee Wee

KevinsDMAX
03-08-2010, 09:52 PM
With stock tires, do you think that most would be o.k. with just the Cognito support braces?

Kevin

P.W.
03-09-2010, 06:42 AM
Ya most would be fine with stock tires. But the stock system is known to be a bad design and I personally think the Cognito braces are a fairly crude way of fixing the problem and known not to be the most reliable, for strength. The main reason I went with the Exaxt steering system is because is works and has proven to last with strenght

For those with the braces please don’t take this the wrong way. I’m in no way trying to put down anything you may have, just stating my opinion.


Pee Wee