: Winter Cover
bigdog 01-07-2004, 12:27 PM I have a 2003 Sierra with a Duramax and today I was trying to put the winter cover on it. I'm not sure what the snaps at the top are supposed to snap around and the little J hooks on the bottom don't seem to be able to grip anything. The Dmax supplemental manual mentioned something about pins but the instructions that were actually in the cover did not (nor does the cover have any pins). I'd like to put this thing on being it is getting cold now but it does not seem to fit on there. Any tips/tricks to getting it on there?
Thanks
Idle_Chatter 01-07-2004, 12:37 PM The snaps go under the plastic push-pins that hold the black plastic radiator shroud down. You pry up the center portion with a flat blade screwdriver and then the whole fastener can be removed. Reinsert the fastener through the hole in the snap base (snap up) into the shroud and press down the center pin to relock. The hooks on the bottom and sides contain soft metal and are "bendable" and must be pre-contoured to use (mine were just flat tabs the first time). The first fitting can be kind of tough, and is really difficult to accomplish in the cold. A heated garage really helps, but the best idea is to toss the cover into a dryer for a couple of minutes and then quickly fit it while warm and flexible. I start with a bottom corner, move across the bottom and then up both sides stretching and centering the cover and bending the hooks as necessary for best fit inside the grill edge. Snaps are last and outside to center works best. Don't be afraid to readjust the hooks as necessary to get a smooth and centered fit. After the first fitting and use, it's a lot easier and the snaps can stay on the shroud under the hood year-round. Edited by: Idle_Chatter
rtquig 01-07-2004, 12:38 PM The J hooks clip around the grill. If I remember correctly, I had to bend them they are flexable. You also have to put the snaps in the first time in the plastic above the grill where the hood closes. Just did mine this morning, used it about 2 months last winter. The snaps stay on after the initial install. Good Luck!
bigdog 01-07-2004, 04:51 PM I looked at the snaps and didn't see any hole in the tab there where that plastic pin could go through. Unfortunately the instruction sheet that came in with the cover was sparse and also not printed that well so hard to even read it.
Thanks
bigdog 01-07-2004, 04:53 PM The bottom J hooks didn't seem fall into a place where it could bend around something, nor did the flaps that go next to the headlights stay in place.
Idle_Chatter 01-07-2004, 05:05 PM Wow, that doesn't sound like mine, Bigdog. Mine had nice holes punched in the fuzzy snap backings and fit like a glove. Are you sure that you got the correct year and type (GMC/Chevy) cover? I'd check with your dealer and have them swap or verify the stock number.
bigdog 01-07-2004, 05:21 PM It was in the back of the truck so I assumed it was the right cover. I will ask them tho as maybe they did screw up??? It does say GMC on the grill portion of it tho.
HisDMAX 01-07-2004, 05:37 PM BigDog
Mine didn't want to stay in place either the first time I installed it. I needed to stretch it a bit while putting it on. I like what Idle_Chatter says about the dryer and am going to try that for a better fit. I think a little heat will help.
I am not clear on the above info. Do you have both pieces of each clip? There should be an ancor that fits in where the fastener pins are located above the radiator. The ancor fits in and the male half of the snap screws into the ancor. I think you might be able to install it without the snaps if you don't have both pieces as a decent portion is under the front edge of hood. I had to get the bendable hooks in place and then bend them once positioned. I don't know how diff. the GMC is mine is a Chevy. Hope it goes well I know it sure is getting colder here.
Mike
Mine didn't have anchors that go under the plastic tabs. The parts with the snaps on it also had the other half on the same pieces. I had to fold the ends in the form of a j and hook them and then snap one piece to the other- it's just a way of tightening it up after everything is hooked. The bottom piece is trickier to fit as it fits tight The dryer idea and heated garage is a good one for the first time. The triangle in the middle is to be cut out if you have a front license plate so the cover will slide around it. I didn't cut mine out- I found it will go on covering the plate if you warm it up enough- just that you take a chance if you're in a location where the front plate is supposed to be visible, like I am!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif
JohnnyO 01-07-2004, 06:09 PM With the cover,you should have also received a bag of screw in snaps that you mount to the front top frame. You have to remove plastic covers on the top of the frame to put them in. A screw driver or butter knife removes the old covers easy. The new ones pop in then with a philips screw driver tighten them. Once you this the first time you can leave them there.
Now, To put on the cover:
First, have all the NARROW Bottom felt flaps bent the shape of a loose "J" Like a fish hook. I made the bends in the middle and it fits well. You want a loose "J" so it can hook the frame.
I found it's easier to start from the bottom. Lay the cover with the outside facing down on your bumper. Then slide it under the grill lift up and pull forward a bit. The "J's" will hook on the underneath of the grill. You may have to help the "J's" a bit to catch. It easy to put your hand in and make sure the J's caught.
Next is the side felt flaps. Just bend these into more of a "C" shape the slide in between the grill and the headlamps. It's a tight fit so it takes some stretching.
Then snap the top.
It's really was very easy and fast after the first time. It's not as hard as it sounds.
Pictures:
Picture of the bottom:
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/B95_bottom.jpg
Side:
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/EF6_side.jpg
side-top
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/2Z9_sidetop.jpg
Top:
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/C21_top.jpg
Edited by: JohnnyO
dieselman 01-07-2004, 06:24 PM Thanks for the info. I didn't receive the bag of screws and snaps and the dealer didn't have any, even on the new trucks so we're going to try and order the kit (at his expense).
MaineMax 01-07-2004, 07:05 PM Is there anywhere else to buy a cover besides the dealer?
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/CAF_2004_0107cover0001.JPG That was a chevy with the snaps. mines a 2003 GMC Sierra so it should be the same as yours. It however only has the 2 snaps at the top so if your's has more it's different. Heres a pic with the top edge of the cover folded back. Good luck!
HisDMAX 01-07-2004, 07:20 PM MaineMax someone was selling one I don't know if it is still avail. but
Check here
http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2901&PN=11 (http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2901&PN=1)
BigDog
Looking at the posts/pics from Johnny O and Army. The covers are very diff for the Chevy and GMC. It looks like the GMC has the "J" hooks with snaps on them. The Chevy has the fasteners to remove and the ancors to install.
dieselman 01-07-2004, 07:44 PM Army,
I can't seem to find the J hook with snaps. Were they attached to your cover or am I not looking at something right on the cover? The female snaps are on the top where it goes under the hood.
JohnnyO 01-07-2004, 07:56 PM Looks like there are two different styles. This is good to know if you are buying one.
2003 Silverado has snap fastners that screw in:
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/8FC_snaps.jpg
Yea dieselman- they are attached to the underside of my cover- they wern't a J to start with, I had to bend them as you do with all the other tabs. Looks like I should wash under my hood- JohnnyO 's looks a lot cleaner than mine!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif
Idle_Chatter 01-08-2004, 07:48 AM Yep, looks like my 2001 Silverado has a different system. My snaps are on a fuzzy "tab" with a hole that goes under the radiator shroud fasteners, no screws. Sorry if I mislead or confused you.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif I've used my grill cover every winter since purchasing the truck in 2001, but have never used the bumper cover. It seemed more trouble that it was worth, especially since I have a front plate. Have weathered several winters in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New York and now Ohio and the grill cover alone has been more than enough.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gifEdited by: Idle_Chatter
Coghlin 01-08-2004, 09:04 AM I just finished putting on my cover. It is exactly the same as army's. The snaps are just for tightening up the cover after you have it all fitted. In Ontario, Canada we have to display the front plate. This was easy. Just take off your front plate and holder. Take an exacto knife and cut the stitching for the front plate hole. Put on the cover and put the license plate bracket back on. I also put my cover in front of my garage heater before I put it on. It fit real well. I was surprised. It sure makes a difference. I couldn't even get the transmission temp to read and the engine temp would only get up about half way. I think that my fuel mileage has also increased now that things can get up to temperature.
JMPDMax 01-08-2004, 09:25 AM BigDog:
I have the 2003 Sierra too. To install the cover (after bending the flat tabs into a 'J' shape), I just push in the flaps next to the headlights and hood the top 2 corner pieces (the ones next to the flaps). Then I hook the top two (the ones with the snaps). Then I start at one side and hook in the bottom ones. To do this I put my index finger on each side of the tab and push it under and up. They attach to the back edge of the grill. The last step it to snap the top snaps to the tabs.
The Sierra grill cover DOES NOT need extra hardware (no screws) and no piece of it stays behind when it is removed.
I put on a cold cover (20 degree weather) the other night with no problems.
Later
bigsky1 01-08-2004, 09:55 AM Bigdog.
JMPDMax hit it on the head for a GMC. Chevy is way different and if it says GMC on the front of it you have the right one. Throw out the bumper cover and just put on the top. I have used that down to 40 below zero. When you take it off this spring and find all the sand/salt/gravel that got behind it has rubbed and scratched your grill buy yourself an aftermarket cover like the cloudrider from maxpower.
SteveEdited by: bigsky1
bigdog 01-10-2004, 10:39 AM Thanks to everyone who posted info and pics on how it went on. I did confirm I have the correct one as the dealer did get it to go on finally. Of course then it warmed up that day so had to take it off. But atleast I know it fits and will use it next time.
What do you use to clean it? It said not to use anything like armorall
I just wash mine at the carwash.
MICKD 01-11-2004, 03:30 PM The GMC and Chevy are very different covers. Different grill design. Use mild soap and warm water, The material that is used will shrink alittle if you wash it and leave it laying around. If you can put it back on the truck to let it dry you won't have shrinkage. The backing on the covers is not a woven back, but what is called "fur-back" (in the upholstery trade)just keeping it clean will give you years of service. you can use a protectant on it if it gets hard or brittle, you can use a non-solvent/alcohol/silocone, base cleaner such as Vinylex, made by Lexol leather and vinyl products. Good Luck http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif
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