Hey guys,


Another great site with loads of information. Fantastic.. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif - I have a question about the AFE stage II or any intake for that matter. If you change your intake but you don't do anything to the exhaust are your EGT's going to climb - You know, air in, but not getting it out..?


Thanks

I dont think it willl have a measureable effect, but I am not running one so cant answer for sure.

I was going to buy one but the vendor told me realistically getting a good aftermarket air filter would be just as, if not more beneficial than the AFE 2, unless you like it for the cool factor. For me, the money it cost was cooler than the Stage 2. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

And once upon a time, someone did a HP test with NO air filter at all and then with a K&N I beleive, and the difference in HP was neglegible. I can not find the reference to that though, so please dont talk bad about me for 10 pages! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Randy, you dont have a clue, your so stupid, http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif


Just kiddin.


I have heard that more turbo noise with the AFE

I run my OEM for up to 39,000 then changed to the Stage 2. I did not see any diffrence in the EGT's............untill the Quad! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


I don't know that the hp or ft. lbs. changed that much, but love that whine. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif Some say that it spools up faster.....I justs thinks you can just hear it better, so you think it is. You know like a lounder exaust!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


I will be going with a 4" exhaust to lower EGT's soon, I hope!


Edited by: cmadmaxman

can your really hear the turbo that much more? That would be enough of a reason for me to get the stage II! I miss the trubo whine I had on my dodge when I took the baffel out of the turbo. How about the "swiss cheese" effect? Know if you can hear the trubo more?


Mike

You will not see much if any more hp/tq with an air cleaner on a dyno. But in real world you may see 15hp more. On a dyno you are not forcing air into the engine, so it will not make much difference what type of filter you have.


Mike; The stage II AFE will make the turbo several times louder then stock.

Woooooooo Doggie ............ with the stage 2 the whine will be so loud you'll have your neighbors turnin' their heads.


If you want to hear the turbo, AFE stage II .......

Mike,
Good point about the dyno not "forcing air".

I will get a Stage 2 eventually, but it is down on the list behind a few "other" toys http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

If like hearing your turbo spool up then the afe is the intake for you. Even if it added nothing at all the sound alone is worth the price. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Up.gif

If thats the case sign me up! Im ordering tonight!!! Cant wait to hear that whistle!!! Thanks guys! Where is the best place to get em?


Mike

The Stage 2 does add a little turbo noise but you have to keep it clean to work the best. They are around $235.00








Con Haycock
208-431-0835
http://www.consperformancechips.com (http://www.consperformancechips.com)

what it looks like


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http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/86B_AFE_3_800.JPGThis http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/AFE_800.JPGis http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/AFE_1_800.JPG

Stage 2 does not come with the Blue pre sock it is extra


Con Haycock
208-431-0835
http://www.consperformancechips.com (http://www.consperformancechips.com)

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Your engine is TOOOOOO clean!

You need to move near the farms and construction where I am. Im lucky to keep a wash job for 24 hours because of the dust.

Yeah, way to clean Tony!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif Thanks for the pics Tony! How long does it take to install? How much do you hear your turbo Tony?


Hey Con guess Ill be ordering one of those! Ill give you a call tomorow!


Mikehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

Not long, I trimmed my box a little for the AC line at the Radiator support ,


I will get a PIC up soon.


Get the sock, put the filter in the box before you put the tube in.


Much easier


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Thanks Tony!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

With the proper tools, it can be done in an hour or less.

With the proper tools, it can be done in an hour or less.


Which in my garage means a large hammer and a lot of bandaids!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Thanks guys.. I didn't know if when I put mine (no gauges yet or exahust yet) if it was going to cause me any problems.


Thanks


Pete

Has anyone run one of these long enough to get an oil analysis and find out if in addition to looking good and permitting the turbo to whistle away they actually also filter the air?

TC

Has anyone run one of these long enough to get an oil analysis and find out if in addition to looking good and permitting the turbo to whistle away they actually also filter the air?

TC

Pick ME !!!!! I'll post it when I find it ....

Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif

Here goes .....

Mighty Max at 4200 miles Delvac 1 synthetic ..

All Ppm Wear elements

cu=5
fe=7
cr=1
pb=4
al=1
si=5
mo=0
na=3
ca=2622
sn=0
k=5
mg=455
zn=1366

Oil Condition Contaminations
w=NEG
f=NEG
a=NEG
st=14
oxi=5
sul=0
vis=12.8

Cats recomendation =>No problems .....

Those numbers look good. Do you have any comparison data from when you were using the Amsoil or factory filter?

TC

I have run mine more then enough to get an oil sample. But I haven'thttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif 18,000 miles or there about.

Those numbers look good. Do you have any comparison data from when you were using the Amsoil or factory filter?

TC

No I never sampled till I installed my AFE .... I too was concerened that with all the negative post on Gauze filters that I was taking a big chance in increased dirt inlet resulting in high wear metal count ....

Seems it isn't so ....

Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

How much of a difference does it make if you live in a dusty climate such as vegas? Would I have to worry more about dust getting in my engine? If all my driving is on the pavement, how often do I need to clean it?





Mikehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

Here is the last test I have with my OEM air filter. It was new at first of the last test. Test_08-14-03.zip (http://dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/Test_08-14-03.zip)


The middle test, I think, was from dirt in my Fomoto valve! Also George recomended that I change the air filter, and check for leaks. I'm hoping that I can get into the single digits. That is where it needs to be! The last change was cleaned good and taken mid way through the drain.


I put my AFE on at my last oil change but only have 2k on the oil so far. I do the oil change at 7k, and at that time I will be putting on the Ricor by-pass filter.Edited by: cmadmaxman

Put the AFE II on Saturday eve.. - Easy install.. and WOW does that Turbo sing now http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif - Thanks for all the info guys.

I've seen a WIDE range in price for the AFE Stage 2.....what price and where'd you buy?

Bought it off ebay for $269 Shipped. Somewhere on here though someone mentioned that a guy who comes on the board sells them for $239.. I found out after I orderd. Mackin was right when he said it makes it sing though... You can REALY hear it now http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif..http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

That was me



<DIV>Con's Performance Chips
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How much do you sell the boots (cover) whatever you call it, for? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Thanks

CDOOHAY


$239 Shipping Included???

cdoohay;


Do you sell the replacement filters for the stage II? and if so how much? I would like to have an extra one for when it is time to clean it. How about the cleaner and treatment?

Sock $40.00


Cleaning kit $12.00


Extra filter Stage 2 $42.00


All plus ship

Just installed mine last weekend. $213 off eBay.


Man I love the whistle!!!

cdoohay


I know that they probably dont sell em without the filter but if it was possible to work something out......How much would a stage 2 go for if you kept the filter? I just dont like the idea of cotton gauze and would stick a foam cone on there. Or use the factory box if possible?

Tony,


your install of the AFE looks good. I put mine on last weekend and it barely fit. Its on and works great, but I can't get my intake tube to bolt on to the box. (using the bolt with the big rubber washer). Do you have any tricks?


Thanks

jgriffin187


Keep everything loose until you get it started then tighten up

The sock costs as much as the filter?

$40 for one sock? Man; it`s against the law to seal!


That is just crazy!

Tony,


your install of the AFE looks good. I put mine on last weekend and it barely fit. Its on and works great, but I can't get my intake tube to bolt on to the box. (using the bolt with the big rubber washer). Do you have any tricks?


Thanks





Sorry I was away for a week........


It's like arm wrestling a gorilla...........No tricks really just fight with it and eventually you will win.


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Tony,


your install of the AFE looks good. I put mine on last weekend and it barely fit. Its on and works great, but I can't get my intake tube to bolt on to the box. (using the bolt with the big rubber washer). Do you have any tricks?


Thanks








Leave everything loose except the metal box .... You should be able to turn (twist) it on,in place ..... I've gotten quite use to it ...


Who has cleaned these filters with any success ?? I went and ordered a new Magnum Force element and sock while I experiment ....


Also there is a new element coming or now available that filters farther in dusty areas ....


Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

Anyone know if the intake tube is available without the airbox?

If your going were i think your going you gota post weather it works or not http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Always!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

I installed my AFE Stage 2 last night. At first I could not tell much difference. Power seemed about the same, and it was no where near as loud as I was expecting. Gas milage seemed up perhaps 1mph, but I won't know for sure until the tank is used up.


Then I went to the spot where I usually test my 0-60 (actually 0-72 - phone poll to phone poll). No power breaking, just hitting it from idle. Usually I get a little tire spin, then the boost comes up, and it hooks up and takes off. This time I was expecting similar results. I hit the gas, and the truck didn't move. It just sat there and spun the tires so fast it shifted into 2nd, and I was still sitting in the same spot. Cars were coming, so I backed out of it until I had traction back, and then went to 3/4 throttle. Same results.....Nothing but spinning tires.


Perhaps it is because the roads and my tires are colder now that fall is here. Perhaps I didn't gain any more peak horsepower, but I can say for sure that the spool-up time is greatly reduced, and you've gotta love that sound.


Even with the pathetic launch, I still hit 72mph by the second phone poll. Sorry no g-tech or here.

Amric

And Others .....

We personally tested the AFE stage II on the dyno ..... NO HP gain was yielded.... The only benifit is faster spool up which the seat of yours or others pants would say it's more HP but .....

AFE stage II user ,

Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

any news on the new element? Where to find? Any one seen any screamin deals on these lately?





Mikehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

I have the new filter. I got it here.


http://www.dieselmanor.com/afe/afe_gm_duramax.asp?I1.x=109&amp;I1.y=9

On the Refflexxion site, they have an Air Force one system part # 16206 for $289.00 This comes with a stainless tube which looks much better. The filter is the same as an afe.

What can anyone tell me about the pro guard 7 media? Is it worth the extra $$$? Hey Con, you selling these yet? Any info would be great.





Thanks,


Mikehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

On the Refflexxion site, they have an Air Force one system part # 16206 for $289.00 This comes with a stainless tube which looks much better. The filter is the same as an afe.

Gotta link ??

Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

What can anyone tell me about the pro guard 7 media? Is it worth the extra $$$? Hey Con, you selling these yet? Any info would be great.





Thanks,


Mikehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

I was told it is for duster climates .... It does reduce CFM but if you are driving a dirt road every day ,I go for it ....I wish I had the exact numbers ,I was told,but I can't remember ... It's some where around a 100 or more Cfm's lost .... But still considered a excellant flow ....



Mac

What can anyone tell me about the pro guard 7 media? Is it worth the extra $$$? Hey Con, you selling these yet? Any info would be great.







Thanks,



Mikehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif




I was told it is for duster climates .... It does reduce CFM but if you are driving a dirt road every day ,I go for it ....I wish I had the exact numbers ,I was told,but I can't remember ... It's some where around a 100 or more Cfm's lost .... But still considered a excellant flow ....



Mac


I am going to try one, hope it workes better than the stock AFE.


Cheers


Bear

Long time no hear mackin. Hope you been keepin this site under controlhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


thanks for the info. If I dont drive on dirt roads very often should I spend the extra?


Thanks,


Mikehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

Have you ever heard of two weeks two weeks two weeks. They are on back order Sorry I didn't get my order in soon enough

$40 for one sock? Man; it`s against the law to seal!


That is just crazy!



You can get the same thing direct from
Outerwears for ~$24.00. Shipping extra.
PN# WR25-22-7T

http://www.outerwearsracing.com/

Here's mine;
http://207.53.239.181/~terry/truck/AFE-Intake/

good luck,

T.

great to know about the outer wears!!!





Mike

Anyone know if the tube can be ordered without the airbox/filter?

Talk to cdoohay, you might be able to work something out.

Anybody using the Pro Guard 7 yet? Mine will be in tomorrow, just wondering how they are working.


Cheers


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