Well I made the mistake of buying the PDM that mounts on the intake. After reading a lot of posts of how this is not good I have decided to remote mount it. I am looking for some ideas on where to mount and what I need to mount it besides an extention cable. I do have a rigid mount Western plow frame so I don't know if that will interfere with mounting. Thanks in advance.

behind the front bumper is where i see them alot. anywhere away from the heat.

I would be curious as well since I just bought a new truck with the PDM mounted on a nice heat sink mounted on the intake. While everything that I read in these forums says that a Heath type relocate is the best, has anybody with the proper PDM mounted on a good heat sink on the manifold ever had it fail? Here are some pictures of the one on my truck:
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=106395&d=1264943999
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=106397&d=1264944030
Hopefully this isn't considered hijacking this thread, I was going to write a thread about this today, and this thread seemed pretty much the same already. If it should be relocated, does anybody know the source of a longer wiring harness?

I would be curious as well since I just bought a new truck with the PDM mounted on a nice heat sink mounted on the intake. While everything that I read in these forums says that a Heath type relocate is the best, has anybody with the proper PDM mounted on a good heat sink on the manifold ever had it fail?

All the time, just search it. It is still in the hottest place, it is even hotter than the IP. See, heatsink have to dissipate heat but if the ambient is hotter than itself, the heatsink will absorb the ambient heat and pass it on to the PMD/FSD. Hence, the FSD/PMD failure once again. Simple thermodynamics. In the pics, even the radiator hose is in a heat protector sleeve. Don't you think that is a hot place? Sometimes, we have to put common sense.

By the way, does not mean to criticize. That is the nicest looking heatsink but the coating does not help in heat dissipation. If you already have it then use it. Bare aluminum silver color is still the best. Just FYI.

If it should be relocated, does anybody know the source of a longer wiring harness?

Yes, pmdcable made good reliable one. You can google it. There are a lot of other sources, too.

As far as location, some people also mounting it in front of the radiator behind the grill above one of the smaller oil cooler.

Yes I had the FSD intake mount setup on mine when I purchased my truck last Oct. It started failing on me 2 weeks after I bought the truck.

I purchased the 6 ft cable off fleabay & moved it out into the cooling nostril along with a new Dtech #9 resister & PMD from pensicola ebay store, no problems since I moved it. It's hard to see it in the nostril unless you know it's there. It's in the wind now...

I mounted mine behind the front bumper.

here's where I mounted mine. You can't see it unless you know where it is.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j94/JeepRocks86/Suburban/106_3664.jpg

I've seen 8' and 6' harnesses. Is 6' enough or should I go with the 8"?

6 will get it done

I have mine mounted where the washer fluid tank goes on early years behind the battery due to my truck being a 97 plus I bought the DIPACO PMD and it can be mounted back on the pump if you want stock look havent had problems since.

i mounted mine on the passenger side frame just behind the front skid plate. its worked great for me so far

Thanks for everybody's advice on this. Since my PMD seemed to be mounted on a pretty decent heat sink already and is working fine, I just ordered and extension cable to relocate the PMD and heat sink to the front bumper area. Then, since I will be doing some driving out in the middle of nowhere a long ways from home (across South Dakota on I-90) I ordered a new Dipaco PMD as a backup. Since I didn't need a new heat sink, the extension cable and PMD were under $200 including shipping. Also, as a result of what I read on this forum, I did not buy them from Edam on Ebay like I would have, instead I bought from Pensacola Diesel - thanks for everybody's help and advice!

Can You Tell Me Dose The Remote Pmd Have To Be Earthed Or Not

No ground needed.Are you aware that a conductive paste needs to be applied between the FSD & the heat sink. Radio Shack stocks the conductive paste. OMG I mentioned an un authorized source.I can already feel the heat from hell!!

The conductive paste is also called Heat Transfer Compound. One of the famous brand is Arctic Silver 5. RadioShack should have it or any electronic store like BestBuy or Sears should have it also. I have also seen it in OfficeDepot. It is the same one used in our computer CPU heatsink.

To add a view unauthorized supplier. I don't think any of our vendor wants to add a $5-$10 item in their offering portfolio competing with RS or BB.

The ground (earthed) of the PMD should still be on top of the IP. Never ever.... want to move it to any other spot despite what some vendor said to do.

No ground needed.Are you aware that a conductive paste needs to be applied between the FSD & the heat sink. Radio Shack stocks the conductive paste. OMG I mentioned an un authorized source.I can already feel the heat from hell!!

maybe you should step away from the oven and let the wife finish cooking dinner ;)

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I Did Not Know About The Conductive Paste What Is It For What Will It Do If I Have Not Got It On

I mounted mine on the skid plate behind the license plate, as high up as I could get it. It works awesome! Six-foot harness and the Flight Systems PMD from Pensacola diesel, about $300 cheaper than the Heath. Not dissing the Heath, but I feel very very happy since I rigged mine. All I've read says DO NOT MOUNT IN ENGINE COMPARTMENT. The wind flows freely through my heat sink fins...

I am ready to mount my new generic flight systems PMD, that I ordered from Pensacola Diesel along with an extension harness, behind my front bumper. I have an existing stock PMD mounted on a heat sink on the manifold. My plan is to remove the stock PMD from the heat sink, reuse the existing resistor, mounted the new PMD on the old heat sink and mount everything behind the front bumper. My question concerns heat transfer compound, the PMD came with a thin flexible pinkish color gasket that the instructions say must be used under the PMD. Does this gasket take the place of heat transfer compound? If not, where do you put the heat transfer compound, between the PMD and the gasket, between the gasket and the heat sink, both??? The instructions with the PMD don't say to use heat transfer compound, they just say to use the gasket. The existing PMD looks like it is mounted on the heat sink with a thick adhesive pad that probably takes the place of heat transfer compound.

I am ready to mount my new generic flight systems PMD, that I ordered from Pensacola Diesel along with an extension harness, behind my front bumper. I have an existing stock PMD mounted on a heat sink on the manifold. My plan is to remove the stock PMD from the heat sink, reuse the existing resistor, mounted the new PMD on the old heat sink and mount everything behind the front bumper. My question concerns heat transfer compound, the PMD came with a thin flexible pinkish color gasket that the instructions say must be used under the PMD. Does this gasket take the place of heat transfer compound? If not, where do you put the heat transfer compound, between the PMD and the gasket, between the gasket and the heat sink, both??? The instructions with the PMD don't say to use heat transfer compound, they just say to use the gasket. The existing PMD looks like it is mounted on the heat sink with a thick adhesive pad that probably takes the place of heat transfer compound.

That pinkish thing is their version of heat transfer compound. Either one.

No problems here, I used the pink rubber gasket that cam with it...

IME be sure the resister seats all the way down into the PMD plug hole and verify both ends of the 6 foot extension cable to assure the wire colors are in the same locations on both ends...don't ask!

Thanks for the replies on the "gasket". The wires on the extension cable are all pretty much the same color. I think that I will hook it up to my manifold mount PMD first to verify operation of the harness before I touch the PMD - thanks.

Before you hook up the PMD, make sure it is mounted on the heatsink. Never hook up a PMD without it mounted on the heatsink properly. Sorry for the repetition.

I never received any transfer past or gasket with my pmd and heat sink. Is it totally necessary?

Before you hook up the PMD, make sure it is mounted on the heatsink. Never hook up a PMD without it mounted on the heatsink properly. Sorry for the repetition.

Hows that? I mean what will happen to it if you zip tied to to the grill? Not that I ever would, just like to understand...:confused:

Hows that? I mean what will happen to it if you zip tied to to the grill? Not that I ever would, just like to understand...:confused:

You need the heatsink to give the surface area needed to cool it. The PMD itself doesn't have enough surface area. Someone some time ago tested one without a heatsink and it got amazingly hot in a very short amount of time and was smoking in less than 3-5 minutes, IIRC.

On that note, you can just plug one in for a very short amount of time for testing purposes only. Other than that, it must have some form of cooling.

That short amount of time is like a few seconds, less than 1 minutes.

PMD is like a CPU, it generates its own heat. Just read up on it, a few members have written a lot about how the PMD give up in stock location or on the intake.

That short amount of time is like a few seconds, less than 1 minutes.

PMD is like a CPU, it generates its own heat. Just read up on it, a few members have written a lot about how the PMD give up in stock location or on the intake.

I wouldn't say less than a minute, but I'd limit it to a minute at the absolute most.

Use the white lithium grease they sent you. I threw the pink pad in my box of spare stuff and slathered the grease onto the heat sink and screwed it on. The instructions said you could use either or, and my buddy who did this before said use the grease and make sure the PMD is snug to the heat sink.

Also... my dad told me not to handle the resistor with my hands. He says you can screw 'em up awfully easy. The directions that came with the Pensacola Diesel kit said to handle the resistor with the tips of a paperclip in those two little holes. So that's what I did. My dad also says you can't do with a damaged resistor, so I'd be extra careful or just order another one...

How do you mount the heatsink to the bumper?

Use the white lithium grease they sent you. I threw the pink pad in my box of spare stuff and slathered the grease onto the heat sink and screwed it on. The instructions said you could use either or, and my buddy who did this before said use the grease and make sure the PMD is snug to the heat sink.

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They didn't give me anything except the pink pad, so I guess that I will use that - I will be careful with the resister - thanks!

How do you mount the heatsink to the bumper?
I removed 2 bolts holding the lic plate 'bracket' and installed brackets & 1/4" coupler nuts to bolts and attachet the heatsink to them and replaced bolts (1/4") in the license plate bracket, You access this through the bumper holes (nostrils) . Route cable out of harms way behind the bumper & plastic sheilds.

How do you mount the heatsink to the bumper?

You can see pics of my bumper mount PMD/FSD install on reply # 17 in this post, not saying it's any better, just another way to do it.

Click>>> <<<<here (http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=355029&page=2)

Wherever you mount be sure that it has a good ground. I just layed mine (heath) behind the front grill to get the engine running and had all sorts of problems until I ran a ground wire to the mounting plate.

Wherever you mount be sure that it has a good ground. I just layed mine (heath) behind the front grill to get the engine running and had all sorts of problems until I ran a ground wire to the mounting plate.

Ground should stay on top of the IP.

My experience is that they do need to be grounded. I didn't and had constant problems until I grounded it, once I did the truck has been running great.

My experience is that they do need to be grounded. I didn't and had constant problems until I grounded it, once I did the truck has been running great.

Never touched my OEM ground, it's clean no issues here.

I purchased mine from BD diesel in Canada ( BC ) i think, and mounted mine in the opening of the bumper nostrel.I used the #9 resister and have had no trouble. I went the hard way and removed the intake and used the original PMD as iv been made aware from the previouse owner that it was recently replaced so i saved the $250 (american) and used my own. Alls well that ends well.

I removed 2 bolts holding the lic plate 'bracket' and installed brackets & 1/4" coupler nuts to bolts and attachet the heatsink to them and replaced bolts (1/4") in the license plate bracket, You access this through the bumper holes (nostrils) . Route cable out of harms way behind the bumper & plastic sheilds.

That is essentially how I did it as well. Once you put the license plate holder back on it hid the extra bolts. I mounted mine about 10 degrees off of horizontal with the heat sink facing up. That way the heat sink would help shield the PMD if moisture got in there and by laying it at an angle, moisture would help flush off any dirt that gets in on top of the cooling fins.

ok I just removed the intake cover and i dont see the injection pump or the pmd. How is this supposed to be a 15 minute install please help

IP is right behind the thermostat housing and the PMD is mounted to the IP. It is a 15 minute job if you leave the original PMD mounted to the IP and just plug in the extension harness to the original plug , then mount a new PMD

got it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hurray I like spaghetti

And I have cruise control again
She runs smoother and starts right up no hard starts
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