According to the dealer technician, my Banks aftermarket system caused an overheating problem in my '03 turbo, and fried the seals/bearings, causing an oil leak that resulted in oil blasting through the exhaust system. He claimed it's a non-warranty repair ($3k) since the aftermarket equipment caused the problem.

He may be right..... or not.

Opinions?

Exhaust system? If so BULLCHIT.

If it was a Banks tuner, and you had the pyro/backdown feature, BS again.

theres a turbo on ebay for 900 take a look i dont have a link though

Arguing with the dealer will do no good. Most dealers won't sweat an aftermarket exhaust, but you apparently hit a bad one. If they do not know that a better flowing exhaust is BETTER for the turbo, then they don't know much about cars/trucks either.

You REALLY need to explain things in detail if you expect assistance from members here.

Need more info here.

The IHI has a pretty darn tough center section. It would be a rarity to 'cook' one.

Fuelling mods?
Exhaust?
Need more info.

Actually, I had the Banks Stinger TLC, which includes the air filter, muffler, OttoMind TLC programmer, BigHead Wastegate Actuator, and stainless exhaust.

The tech claimed the BigHead was opeining the wastegate too late, and causing the overheating condition. It sounded plausible, but I didn't have the resources to argue. So I'm going to pay the $3k to fix the turbo.

Was getting ready to seel the truck anyhow - this solidified my decision. Getting an '05 under the "employee cost" offer. In retrospect, if I do Banks again, it will just be the exhaust system.

Your in good hands here. Got Juice? is our resident IHI turbo blowing up expert. ):h

You don't have much of leg to stand on if you left the system on when it went to the dealer. Even if it didn't cause the turbo to fry, it's an easy out for them. I'm sure the bighead and airbox were the first things they saw.

When I lost the turbo, the dealer tryed to tell me it was the air intake, then the Banks monster exhaust, then the box. (Which was the box to the X-Monitor gages!) They ended up fixing it, but now without a huge argument. If you had a Banks 6 gun they won't cave, and you will have to eat the cost. But before you pay $3,000+ for a factory replacement, look into the ATS 5000.

I think i would pay 3000 and get an aftermarket turbo before I paid that for a stock one.

Your in good hands here. Got Juice? is our resident IHI turbo blowing up expert. ):h

Me? Blow up a Turbo?

Nahhhh... never happen:rolleyes:

Actually, I had the Banks Stinger TLC, which includes the air filter, muffler, OttoMind TLC programmer, BigHead Wastegate Actuator, and stainless exhaust.

The tech claimed the BigHead was opeining the wastegate too late, and causing the overheating condition. It sounded plausible, but I didn't have the resources to argue. So I'm going to pay the $3k to fix the turbo.

Was getting ready to seel the truck anyhow - this solidified my decision. Getting an '05 under the "employee cost" offer. In retrospect, if I do Banks again, it will just be the exhaust system.

Ok, here is the deal, go to a wrecker and get a shadetree mech to install the used charger.

With the banks system you have, there is NOT ENOUGH FUEL to surge the turbo..... stuck actuator or not!

I ran 100+HP of fuel with a Juicegripped(TM) gate and no issues..... the problem came later at 150++++ of fuel.

Dealer is full of:knight: on that one.

However, seals are more likely to fail from not cooling down the turbo after running hard. You should shut off only when 350F or under on an LB7 IMHO. Once you shut the engine down, fresh lubrication stops. Coked shafts and worn seals can happen quite easily from the hard coked oil deposits.

Me? Blow up a Turbo?

Nahhhh... never happen:rolleyes:


Just blow up dates...right? :lol:

Might be good to discuss matters with Banks. One pays a premium for Banks products and they claim to design at the system level adding power with reliability.

I think Banks would just say he didn't let the turbo cool down.
That sucks man.

Just blow up dates...right? :lol:

Ryan, let's leave mommy out of it ok>?:joke: ):h

First, who installed your Banks stuff? Second, did they know what they were doing? IF the WasteGate is adjusted improperly it is possible to run too much boost causing a possible turbo problem. If it was installed and adjusted properly (the wastegate) then I would say they are just trying to get out of a warranty issue. Definitely call Banks and don't take no for answer...unless of course the install was messed up, then get your checkbook out. I have the same kit (TLC) on my '01 for about 1.5 years now and no problems.
JP

Ryan, let's leave mommy out of it ok>?:joke: ):h

That's just wrong so wrong.:ro)

That's just wrong so wrong.:ro)

What Can I say?):h

I crossed the line into the USA?):h

J/K

I could have fun with that for hours.:ro)

What Can I say?):h

I crossed the line into the USA?):h

J/K

I could have fun with that for hours.:ro)

Leave your dolls out of this man...):h

Good luck man, this is not the only horror story I have heard that deals with many grand worth of repairs due to a Banks System. There are many other stories of guys using Banks equipment and having serious problems and losing their entire engines.

I know that this thread is a little old, but I am new to this forum. I know that banks says that they will cover a repair if it was caused by there product and the factory warranty won't cover it. But there is a law that states that a dealer cannot void a warranty automatically because of aftermarket parts(used to work for dodge dealt with this one before). The dealer has to prove beyond any doubt that the damage was caused by the power adding kit, and in that matter BANKS warranty should cover the damage.

I happen to know someone with a few spares...

Banks will stand behind the products they sell. Period. I have upgraded three trucks. Had problems with a 97 Ford 7.3. Took three months but Banks was right and Ford reimbursed me $3,145.00

I concur that it could be EGT too high when shutting down. It takes about a minute to get below 400 idling after cruising speeds. Get a pyrometer and install it directly into the exhaust manifold. Not at the turbo outlet. Good insurance.

Did you have the egt guage? - You would certainly know if you overheated it - it's hard to miss the red line. The dealer sounds full of it - I've had great luck w/my six gun/duramax - if you scream loud enough, gm should pay.

I've had more to look at the law regarding the addition of power adding items, the magneson-moss act states that a manufacturer cannot void your warranty because of the addition of power adding items unless they can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the add on parts caused the failure. Dealerships always try to get you, so remember the squeaky wheel gets the oil.