I didn't find anything about it in the threads so I'm asking here. Other than the added color, what is the difference b/w off-road and #2. I know it is illegal to run in your truck, but a farmer friend of mine runs it in his truck because he buys it 5,000gal at a time and it is strictly a farm truck. Just curious. Thanks

Nothing... Some guys will come on here and say some BS about it being different, but other than the color nothing is different. There is some pretty expensive farm equipment out there and the quality needs to be the same.

:exactly: what I found out when I was first "curious" about the red stuff and looked into it. (same stuff with a red dye added)

I think we should all collectively find a way to dye it back to normal and all save over $.25 a gallon!! Who's with me:lol:

no diff at all other than the color

Here in idaho. Red dye diesel (Farm fuel) Has a higher sulfer content. than regular #2 diesel. Gives about 1-1/2 mile increase.

Has anybody ever had a cop pull out the tester on 'em? I have never heard of anybody getting their tank tested.

Ok, someone should be able to figure out a dye to change the red to green, or what color is bio? Seems like if it is any color than red it would be hard to prosecute for off road. Besides they would have to see you fuel up at a off-road pump to have probable cause to search you.

Besides they would have to see you fuel up at a off-road pump to have probable cause to search you.


Not necessarily. It is a regulatory thing, so P/C is not required. Kinda the same as an audit.

They can ask you to check your truck at any time, anywhere. If you refuse it is an automatic $1,000 fine. (These are the rules in my state.)

a friend of mine got stopped comming across Indiana a while back. They weren't stopping Class 8 trucks, just the smaller diesels. He threw them a curve cause he was burning SVO. He was questioned him pretty close tho cause they wanted to make sure he was paying the road use tax.

As far as dying the off road stuff for use on the road; I believe that would be tax fraud. Besides a hefty fine it would probably get you an all male, very structured enviroment for a few months, maybe even years. You wouldn't have to worry about high fuel prices keeping you from getting to work to make license plates tho. If ya like that sort of thing, knock yourself out. Mike

A few years ago at the big Farm show in the capital of the state, they were checking tanks of farmers trucks as they were entering the parking lot. Many farmers were shall we say pissed ;)

The state boys were out last week end on I-35 working a red dyed fuel enforcement, they were checking every diesel truck they found, and they got 4 in one day. :badidea: It is a tax evasion with a 2000.00 dollar price tag on it. They also sit back and watch in the rural areas where you can buy off-rd fuel out of the pump. I heard they got a BMW or mercedes one day, cant remember which. I guess if you buy one you cant afford the fuel I know I couldnt. :mad:

Has anybody ever had a cop pull out the tester on 'em? I have never heard of anybody getting their tank tested.

I've never got "dipped" myself, but I've personally witnessed two checkpoints. Once on a four lane state highway, & once just down the road from a livestock auction. I think they were mostly after farmers, who have easy access to off-road diesel, but they were checking semis, too.

I've never got "dipped" myself, but I've personally witnessed two checkpoints. Once on a four lane state highway, & once just down the road from a livestock auction. I think they were mostly after farmers, who have easy access to off-road diesel, but they were checking semis, too.

and thats profiling and thats bad mmmkay?;)

I know somme guys that run offroad diesel. It is $$$ 2,0000 or more in fines if caught, but I haven't seen anyone busted. It is illegal to even use it in a farm truck.:blahblah: I could see the temptation of my 1000 gallon farm tank instead of road taxed. But my truck isn't a diesel anymore so I have nothing to worry about.:phatyo::phatyo:

Been dipped twice myself. Both times in Kalifornia, near agricultural areas.

I was clean both times. Took them about 15 seconds and I was on my way.

beerman

Where in CA? :eek: :eek:

;)

Where in CA? :eek: :eek:

;)

Once in Bakersfield, once in Ventura.

A few years ago at the big Farm show in the capital of the state, they were checking tanks of farmers trucks as they were entering the parking lot. Many farmers were shall we say pissed ;)

I've heard of similar situations like that too. They like busting people at the stock yards, wherever they can find a bunch of farmers.

Where in bakersfield did it happen? :eek:

Where in bakersfield did it happen? :eek:

Ironicly by some refinerys. Just North of Rosedale Hwy on some side streets. I was working on that RR crossing on Rosedale by the driving range.


beerman

The difference in the fuel depends on what state you are in. In California ALL #2 IS the SAME. However in Oregon there is #2 clear low sulfer , #2 low sulfer red and #2 high sulfer red.
The law states that red low sulfer #2 can be used in anything that is operated off road. The red #2 high sulfer dyed fuel can only be used in non-rolling stock, ie. generators, boilers, home heating, marine applications etc.
The law is rarely if at all enforced so many people burn high sulfer red in rolling stock.
For those that plan on using high sulfer on the road I would strongly caution against it. It is very easy to tell when it is being burned. The black smoke is much worse that low sulfer red or clear. Another indication is the smell of the high sulfer. It give off a very rancid smell. It also produces sulfer dioxide when burned. This is what is known as acid rain, bad stuff.
As for the law checking your tank, it is my understanding that the supreme court ruled that the law cannot single out persons or vehicles to check for red fuel. They must set up road side checkpoints to check everyone that drives through.
If you are pulled over for speeding and they request a sample you would then be in your legal right to refuse, so long as that right still exsist.
Hope this helps clear things up.
Marco. :blahblah:

Herd the local farmers say that the Neb State P was on country roads dipping tanks for farm fuel at one point. Most guys are carying pickup tanks to fill tractors now and just tapping them and keeping Highway in the main. Stagger there shutoffs so as not to mix the two. One of the guys I work with also said napa sells something that will take the dye out of a contaminated tank. ?

One of the guys I work with also said napa sells something that will take the dye out of a contaminated tank. ?
We are all ears!!! Lets hear it:ro)

Drywaller was partially right: California #2 is the same as his description of Oregon's. Don't run high sulfur though, it burns smokey, smells more acrid and has too much emulsified water. And there is no OTC way to clear up red fuel):h.