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charles hays
05-31-2005, 07:03 PM
just wondering how some of you guy's truck run with the tts extreme?

charles hays
05-31-2005, 07:13 PM
just wondering how some of you guy's truck run with the tts extreme?heres the rest of my post.
trying to see how it performs in a 04 lb7 ec lb 4x4 dually?
also all pros and cons if any?would like to here from all with extreme
not just dually's.
thanx for any comments in advance.

p.s. i have sc3 tranny

Howling
05-31-2005, 07:22 PM
EXTREMELY WELL :D

We have an extreme on our race/pull truck and one on a dually as well.The power is unreal.

IBDMAX'IN
05-31-2005, 07:39 PM
Just look at my sig. I love the Extreme, Super Diesel runs a long bed dooley crew cab and his truck is capable of 11's in the 1/4 mile. Trust me, if you invest in a Extreme you'll rock almost every d-max on the street in your area.

Con's...........hope you have lots of money for tranny upgrades because your going to need it!!!!

supatrucka
05-31-2005, 08:23 PM
Just look at my sig. I love the Extreme, Super Diesel runs a long bed dooley crew cab and his truck is capable of 11's in the 1/4 mile. Trust me, if you invest in a Extreme you'll rock almost every d-max on the street in your area.

Con's...........hope you have lots of money for tranny upgrades because your going to need it!!!!So are you saying that the SC3 won't handle the extreame. dave

IBDMAX'IN
05-31-2005, 08:31 PM
So are you saying that the SC3 won't handle the extreame. dave

Ooops, didn't see the SC3 at the bottom, I think that he should be fine with the SC3 depending on what kind of power he's putting down and how he uses it on a regular basis. Super Diesel has a EXTREMELY fast dooley and I think that ATS came up with the new Extreme tranny just for his truck!! The dooley's are heavy and with the big power the Extreme will put down I would at least say get a Co-pilot to compliment the SC3. The co-pilot has been added to many suncoast tranny's with lots of luck, and seems to make a good combo with either the ATS or the Suncoast.

Not knocking Suncoast, they make great stuff and Joe Webb will take care of him regardless.

TheMonkey
05-31-2005, 08:57 PM
Just look at my sig.

ibd'n-

help me out here.... i look at your sig and salivate.

and here comes the help i need. don't be offended, your time is fast as all hell, and i would LOVE to just feel a run like that... but what in the world is needed to go sub 12? sealevel? or is there another add that you are thinking about? i would have thought that (ats/co + tts extreme + nos) < 12. help me understand.

thanks, scott.

dozerboy
05-31-2005, 09:30 PM
Don't you need a lift pump to get all of the power out of the extreme?

Howling
05-31-2005, 09:41 PM
ibd'n-

help me out here.... i look at your sig and salivate.

and here comes the help i need. don't be offended, your time is fast as all hell, and i would LOVE to just feel a run like that... but what in the world is needed to go sub 12? sealevel? or is there another add that you are thinking about? i would have thought that (ats/co + tts extreme + nos) < 12. help me understand.

thanks, scott.

Ats/co+tts+nos+lp+no fear=11.49 at 117 but that was last year

noreaster
05-31-2005, 10:06 PM
Did you guys top that yet this year?

TheMonkey
05-31-2005, 10:30 PM
Ats/co+tts+nos+lp+no fear=11.49 at 117 but that was last year

:eek: gulp :eek:

seriously though... the lp made the difference? is there also luck involved? i don't want to be a nerd, but if you could have 100 theorhetical runs that were identical in circumstances, how wide of a range of times could you expect? dare i say standard deviations?

noreaster
05-31-2005, 10:55 PM
don't forget to add a lift pump on there. I don't know for sure, but LP is equivlent to bigger injectors, cause of the more flammable gasses in the cylinder.

GMC-2002-Dmax
06-01-2005, 01:07 AM
So are you saying that the SC3 won't handle the extreame. dave

Mines doing just fine with around 23K miles and 60++trips down the 1/4 mile........

:cool:
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Burnin Mad Max
06-01-2005, 01:25 AM
Do you daily drive it or is it for weekends and the strip only? I'm thinking about the SCIII or an ATS.

Oh, yeah and Michael Crook is a piece of she-ite!!!:offtopic:

GMC-2002-Dmax
06-01-2005, 07:59 AM
Do you daily drive it or is it for weekends and the strip only? I'm thinking about the SCIII or an ATS.

Oh, yeah and Michael Crook is a piece of she-ite!!!:offtopic:

The only time I do not drive in the Xtreme is if there is snow........this winter I used the 80 or 120 when roads were clear and dry..........when I sent my ECM in for an Update to TTS I used the HOT OJ on LEvel 5, once my ECM returned from TTS I went back to the Xtreme and that is what I use daily....

Last time at the track I made 24 runs within 6 hours and some were 3 minutes apart.

Two things you need to remember about the Allisons..........they are not indestructable and the rebuilder makes all the difference in the world..........because if something is not within spec or is missed you just wated your time........

If you want a Co-Pilot you can put one on a SC-III or just get the whole kit from ATS, your choice............I am quite happy with my SC-III but with a Co-Pilot the shifts are a night and day difference. I will be adding the Co-Pilot to mine very soon as well as a possible TC change.

T:cool: NY
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hdmax
06-01-2005, 09:42 AM
Just look at my sig. I love the Extreme, Super Diesel runs a long bed dooley crew cab and his truck is capable of 11's in the 1/4 mile. Trust me, if you invest in a Extreme you'll rock almost every d-max on the street in your area.

Con's...........hope you have lots of money for tranny upgrades because your going to need it!!!!

A tid bit of information you elected too leave out! SD`s truck don't run 11`s without a lot of help from other power enhancing items. Like NOS, Water/meth, Propane, and a few other goodies more then likely. His truck would be lucky to break into the 12`s with the extreme. And the tranny seems to hold up fine with just the Extreme for everybody`s truck that I have read about. It`s the other things that break SD`s tranny, not the Extreme alone.
So stop trying to be a Politician, tell it all, or nothing, as you just fuel the fires when giving half a truth. ;)

duramaxedout
06-01-2005, 11:00 AM
A tid bit of information you elected too leave out! SD`s truck don't run 11`s without a lot of help from other power enhancing items. Like NOS, Water/meth, Propane, and a few other goodies more then likely. His truck would be lucky to break into the 12`s with the extreme. And the tranny seems to hold up fine with just the Extreme for everybody`s truck that I have read about. It`s the other things that break SD`s tranny, not the Extreme alone.
So stop trying to be a Politician, tell it all, or nothing, as you just fuel the fires when giving half a truth. ;)

:blahblah: So the work ATS and Suncoast are doing for the Alli's is pointless then right? You can put the 200+ HP Extreme to the stock Alli and you won't break it or Limp it???? Not sure what threads or planet you are reading from but you might want to spend a little more time in here learning about the Extreme's capabilities and the carniage it can cause to the Alli.
Here is your half truth...what other box do you know of that you don't need to stack and you can put down consistant 12's??? So why not add NOS/Prop and bring home 11's?
Extreme all the way!:ro) IBDMAX'IN for Governor it is then!

J M B
06-01-2005, 12:24 PM
...and if you are worried about the wait, then don't. I ordered mine in the first part of May and recieved it 1 1/2 weeks laterhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

Jason

hdmax
06-01-2005, 02:40 PM
:blahblah: So the work ATS and Suncoast are doing for the Alli's is pointless then right? You can put the 200+ HP Extreme to the stock Alli and you won't break it or Limp it???? Not sure what threads or planet you are reading from but you might want to spend a little more time in here learning about the Extreme's capabilities and the carniage it can cause to the Alli.
Here is your half truth...what other box do you know of that you don't need to stack and you can put down consistant 12's??? So why not add NOS/Prop and bring home 11's?
Extreme all the way!:ro) IBDMAX'IN for Governor it is then!
No one is talking about a stock tranny holding 500 rwhp numnuts!
It was ask about the Extreme, and the answer was it could run 11`s with a crew cab dually, It ain't gonna happen! :blahblah: :blahblah: yourself

The Guy has or is getting a Suncoast L-III tranny upgrade. So where the hell you getting your info ********? Try learning to read before you make a stupid reply! :blahblah:

IBDMAX'IN
06-01-2005, 03:47 PM
No one is talking about a stock tranny holding 500 rwhp numnuts!
It was ask about the Extreme, and the answer was it could run 11`s with a crew cab dually, It ain't gonna happen! :blahblah: :blahblah: yourself

The Guy has or is getting a Suncoast L-III tranny upgrade. So where the hell you getting your info ********? Try learning to read before you make a stupid reply! :blahblah:


Ok, NUMNUTS,I wasn't trying to imply that super diesel's truck could run 11's on just the extreme, gee what a stupid comment that would be. I was trying to comment on the fact that a Dooley was CAPABLE of making a 11 second pass WITH the Extreme. Try not to make silly assumptions before you speak....................NUMNUTS!!!!

IBDMAX'IN
06-01-2005, 03:53 PM
And the tranny seems to hold up fine with just the Extreme for everybody`s truck that I have read about.

So stop trying to be a Politician, tell it all, or nothing, as you just fuel the fires when giving half a truth. ;)

What tranny are you refering too, sounds like everybody's truck, well who's everybody????

SO STOP TRYING TO BE A POLITICIAN, TELL IT ALL, OR NOTHING, AS YOU JUST FUEL THE FIRES WHEN GIVING HALF A TRUTH!!!!! :flipa:

IBDMAX'IN
06-01-2005, 04:13 PM
ibd'n-

help me out here.... i look at your sig and salivate.

and here comes the help i need. don't be offended, your time is fast as all hell, and i would LOVE to just feel a run like that... but what in the world is needed to go sub 12? sealevel? or is there another add that you are thinking about? i would have thought that (ats/co + tts extreme + nos) < 12. help me understand.

thanks, scott.

I was hoping to break into the 11's with the current power setup I run, Extreme + Nitrous. When I ran the 12.391 I ran that with my truck in raw form, I plan on clamping the springs, making some traction bars, adding the SD Center link, and doing some more weight reduction. With all that I'm hoping to crest into the 11's. If not then I'll just throw on a couple of goodies I have waiting and see how low into the 11's I can get!!!

and if you add a tranny upgrade, tts extreme, lift pump and a shot of nitrous then you will easily be into the 12's. Keep in mind I'm still running stock exhaust with muffler removed, stock intake, stock motor and still run 12.3's with just a program and nitrous for power!!!

Don't worry, I'm not affended by your comment at all, I'm more than willing to help people go faster and improve the breed, some people just piss in my wheaties when they start in with stupid attacks on fellow members.

ecc_33
06-01-2005, 04:29 PM
how long is the wait on a tts chip

TheMonkey
06-01-2005, 04:35 PM
wade-

this thread left me cross-eyed. i couldn't follow how it spun out of control.

for the most part, we are all rooting for eachother. if you want sub 12, i hope you do it, and i look forward to hearing about it. sounds like you have a few easy improvements.... including dropping down to a reasonable elevation!

by the way... i shared your very sweet pics of you vs. the vette to my friend with the m3. left his jaw on the floor. i think i lost my chance at ever racing him. so.... i guess i beat him without even upgrading my tranny yet!

IBDMAX'IN
06-01-2005, 05:14 PM
wade-

this thread left me cross-eyed. i couldn't follow how it spun out of control.

for the most part, we are all rooting for eachother. if you want sub 12, i hope you do it, and i look forward to hearing about it. sounds like you have a few easy improvements.... including dropping down to a reasonable elevation!

by the way... i shared your very sweet pics of you vs. the vette to my friend with the m3. left his jaw on the floor. i think i lost my chance at ever racing him. so.... i guess i beat him without even upgrading my tranny yet!

:lol: The power of intimidation!!!!

That's funny that he won't race you anymore, glad that I could be of some service!!!

The elevation is definently a killer, even though the truck runs with the N20 it's still hard to make good runs with such thin air. If you ever need any help in the power dept just let me know and I'll be more than happy to help you or anyone else that needs a few pointers.

Back on topic, I still think that the extreme is the way to go, no stacking, no pulling over to switch programs, just flip a switch and let the monster out!!!

hdmax
06-01-2005, 08:40 PM
Ok, NUMNUTS,I wasn't trying to imply that super diesel's truck could run 11's on just the extreme, gee what a stupid comment that would be. I was trying to comment on the fact that a Dooley was CAPABLE of making a 11 second pass WITH the Extreme. Try not to make silly assumptions before you speak....................NUMNUTS!!!!

I was not calling you names, just the one that jumped all over me, Lighten up mac!
If you notice on my post replying to your post I had a smiley face. I knew what you were talking about, I was just clarifing your statement a little more clearly! :eek: Besides, there are trucks running 11`s without the Extreme, does that mean a stock truck can run 11`s? NO!

Jim659
06-01-2005, 10:06 PM
I know that every time I ask for help you are always more than willing. I have the truck setup pretty good right now, and am going to dyno it this weekend. The Extreme has made a noticable difference, it should complement the co-pilot, Aurora 5000 turbo, injectors and studs that are going in the first week in July. Are those times going to count or do I have to give a handicap?:muahaha: :lol: The power of intimidation!!!!

That's funny that he won't race you anymore, glad that I could be of some service!!!

The elevation is definently a killer, even though the truck runs with the N20 it's still hard to make good runs with such thin air. If you ever need any help in the power dept just let me know and I'll be more than happy to help you or anyone else that needs a few pointers.

Back on topic, I still think that the extreme is the way to go, no stacking, no pulling over to switch programs, just flip a switch and let the monster out!!!

Diesel Dragon
06-01-2005, 10:18 PM
heres the rest of my post.
trying to see how it performs in a 04 lb7 ec lb 4x4 dually?
also all pros and cons if any?would like to here from all with extreme
not just dually's.
thanx for any comments in advance.

p.s. i have sc3 tranny


Here's my experience.

The Extreme rock's. I had a big VA box but it just didn't shift very well, the Extreme does.

You will need a lift pump, it may run alright without it but a pump will help a lot.

I was at the track last month and have same style truck as you and ran a 13.8 at 100 mph.
I did have traction issues and think if I had that straigtened out I could of been mid 13's.
With SD Nitrous I hit 13.2 at 104, again with a better 60' time I might of gotten into the 12's.
Don't forget our Dually's are heavy, mine weighed in at 8,500 lbs with me in it on raceday.

Tony was there with his 2500 weighing in at 7,000 lbs and running only the extreme he was running very low 13's. Oh so close to the 12's.

Around town the truck act's and drives normal, but stomp on it and the truck moves. A lot of suprised faces from people seeing a Big Dually haulin ass.

Turn around time for my order was very good, just make sure you have all the info submitted that needs to be.


I'm happy with my Extreme and would recomend it. :exactly:


My .02



Diesel Dragon

IBDMAX'IN
06-01-2005, 11:34 PM
I know that every time I ask for help you are always more than willing. I have the truck setup pretty good right now, and am going to dyno it this weekend. The Extreme has made a noticable difference, it should complement the co-pilot, Aurora 5000 turbo, injectors and studs that are going in the first week in July. Are those times going to count or do I have to give a handicap?:muahaha:

Watch out, it sounds like there is going to be a new sheriff in town and his name is Jim!!!

:grd:

Hey Jim, pretty quick I'll need to start asking you for power and racing tips........go get 'em'!!!!!!

Tell Danny that I said hey next time you see him.

Cheers, Wade

IBDMAX'IN
06-01-2005, 11:59 PM
I was not calling you names, just the one that jumped all over me, Lighten up mac!
If you notice on my post replying to your post I had a smiley face. I knew what you were talking about, I was just clarifing your statement a little more clearly! :eek: Besides, there are trucks running 11`s without the Extreme, does that mean a stock truck can run 11`s? NO!

Calling someone a politician..................:nutkick: :Wedgie: That was hitting below the belt either way you look at it!!! Next time you try to get your point across with me, your choice of words could use a little more thought, especially if you were trying to humor me on my vague post about the extreme ;) , it certainly didn't come across as a FUNNY post!!. And Duramaxedout is a personal friend of mine, he jumped your Chit because I'm sure he felt like you were on attack mode with me, just as I felt when I read your post.

No hard feelings, next time be careful who you call a politician........ around here thems fightin words!!! :)

fredw
06-02-2005, 12:55 AM
holy sh!t jim slow down, it is going to be hard to see you when you go flying bye:eek: :ro)



I know that every time I ask for help you are always more than willing. I have the truck setup pretty good right now, and am going to dyno it this weekend. The Extreme has made a noticable difference, it should complement the co-pilot, Aurora 5000 turbo, injectors and studs that are going in the first week in July. Are those times going to count or do I have to give a handicap?:muahaha: