Let's see what your truck pulls, tows, or hauls. Here's mine. It's an 2007 Jazz 31' 5th wheel.

good looking rig. i sometimes carry around a couple of dogs and the occasional dirt scooter or dead critter. dont hook to anything very often.

Carter I love the dead critter comment......lol

There are 2 huge threads with pics like those. Here is one of them.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191266

My midget tractor, A.K.A. the lawnmower on steroids!!! lol Mahindra on a 24" Bumper pull! :badidea: Should have went gooseneck!!

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=99865

that truck looks great... :cool2:

toybox and a sandrail

prostitutes

Table food for daddy

i feel like a little girl; only thing i pull as of now is a 10ft flatbed holding either my farmall cub or polaris ranger. then again, some ppl dont ever tow with their diesels so i guess im not that bad. im about to get a double axle gooseneck for livestock at the ranch though if that counts.

moved to towing.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/charles.lindberg/images/Regal2.jpg

Weight about 12k unloaded.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=87451&d=1245890859

good lookin setups guys

Don't tow far very often, but here's what I pull..

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk3/HamsHog/Jayco%20G2%2031RKS/Campsite.jpg

Sometimes we tow a boat or car behind also.

My daily driver....

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/[IMG]http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv177/33outlaw/Coastal%20Stuff/IMG_2099.jpghttp://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv177/33outlaw/Coastal%20Stuff/IMG_2099.jpg

David

Just bought a 40' Fuzion Toy Hauler. 13k dry, 16.5k loaded. Haven't taken her out yet but it should be fun when we do.

Rarely tow, but when I do...

Both of my trailers in this pic.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/ADPLV/101_1248.jpg

Table food for daddy
http://rlv.zcache.com/nice_rack_tshirt-p235697332339275981qn1r_400.jpg



Also nice driveway you have there Chad :D

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b325/ricko21/14343_1262023398808_1476390061_3072.jpg

50ft kaufman dually low pro wedge trailer

can fit 3 vehicles on trailer but only had to pick up two that day

This was my main tow, sold it last year. Logged about 70K miles with it following me
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=17864&d=1161035282

Towing a few friends jeeps
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=98243&d=1253244987

Storing the toys for the winter
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=87582&d=1237784043

Hauling a light load
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=98241&d=1253244962

28' Haulin car trailer, extra height. I put everything I own in it usually (military DITY moves) and for a single guy, it works AWESOME. My 99 SS takes up most of the space/weight capacity. If I were more more furniture, I'd have to make a step up, but for now it works well.

BTW- I've towed this a few times. Hardest conditions= 02 2500HD with 175k miles, Colorado altitudes, 95 degrees, cruise control on 65 mph, A/C on, Edge on level 1- no problems! Even with hills, I think it downshifted to 4th TWICE. Weight was 19.5k overall (10 on trailer, 9.5 on truck). The Edge, the P3, and the airbags made it easy. I did this all while getting a hand calculated 10.0 mpg!

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=92195&d=1255053398

28' Haulin car trailer, extra height.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=92195&d=1255053398

Really nice set-up. I always admire the guys who have a truck that matches their trailer, that matches their collector car.

Thanks! I took it a step further than matching just exterior colors- my car and my truck also have the same tan leather lol! ;)

The joke among my friends is that I need to come up with my own logo in vinyl for the truck and the trailer.... "DB Motorsports" or something cheezy!

DB Movers :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/DB-Deutsche_Bahn-Zeichen.svg/800px-DB-Deutsche_Bahn-Zeichen.svg.png

13,000 lbs of fun !!!!!

I don't have any pics but pull BIG S**T. Last week was a 39ft 5'er GWV 22K , 36ft 5'er GVW 16K, and a 39ft TT GVW ?? real heavy droped to 7 MPG heavy. People need to ship more 20ft speed boats!

My car and my truck also have the same tan leather lol!

You, my friend, have an illness.

towed this earlier this year, not the right truck tho. LOL

http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad73/07blkLMM/JourneytoSouthDakota001.jpg
Not too heavy, 11,000# gross and I don't think I have been close yet.

Here's what I tow...

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=338988

rig is about 5300# and the trailer is probably around 1800#

http://www.houseofloy.net/smsmith/Rausch_Creek_092409/pic_0066.jpg

Here is what I currently tow around and it is for sale by the way. I am moving up to a toyhauler when it sells.

Depends on which toy I'm working on or playing with that day. I just realized that I don't have pics of most of them behind the dually, which has done most of the towing. I'll work on that.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i223/DrededSS/LiftedDiesel006.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i223/DrededSS/TNtrip.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i223/DrededSS/4x4tow002.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i223/DrededSS/Danville003.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h293/bentley429/DSC01574-1.jpg

These two loads are the only thing i've towed so far. Unsure of weights. I was moving the travel trailer for someone else, not mine..

http://76.14.196.180/%7Er5516a/04_Silverado/IMG_0265_01.jpg

http://76.14.196.180/%7Er5516a/04_Silverado/5th_Wheel.jpg

Here are a few things that i pull...one is more fun than the other though.

Oh yeah.....here is my dad pulling me home after breaking the front-end in my truck.:eek:

Here is a 650J LGP dozer i just moved from jobsite, Weight is around 19000lbs it was a load, but she pulled her just fine for 50miles.

Here is my truck and trailer. The trailer weighs a little over 12K empty.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc240/kot4bye/Thanksgiving%20at%20URE/DSCF6220.jpg

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp287/skiberger/100_0343.jpg?t=1260416997


http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp287/skiberger/100_0333.jpg?t=1260417060

This is what I tow.

http://brakeswapracing.com/ericwong/pictures/trailer/Pace[1].JPG

I cannot believe that I don't have more pics of my truck towing things....

Here is my '02 pulling my gooseneck trailer with 3 pallets of Pavestones. About 14,000# towed weight.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=103125&d=1260568296

here is a few pics

I like how the ford is ridin on the gooseneck pulled by a chevy!

I like how the ford is ridin on the gooseneck pulled by a chevy!


YEAH THATS MY FAVORITE PIC I GOT:D

a day in glamis.

Got a new toy hauler and it was to much for my 3/4 ton. Had to get a hauler for my toy hauler:). My wife is just shaking her head.

This is our new baby! Tows like a dream.

Those are very nice guys. Boatman, that thing is huge! Which model did you get? Jerry.

Here is mine towing a backhoe that weighed in at over 18,000 lbs. This is when we loaded it. Good thing I only went 100 miles with it. Oh well, the job had to be done.

Here is mine towing a backhoe that weighed in at over 18,000 lbs. This is when we loaded it. Good thing I only went 100 miles with it. Oh well, the job had to be done.

Just when I thought I seen it all! Get-R-Done!! :ro)

Depends on which toy I'm working on or playing with that day. I just realized that I don't have pics of most of them behind the dually, which has done most of the towing. I'll work on that.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i223/DrededSS/LiftedDiesel006.jpg







specs on the ss??? can't be a stock 454 ss... :D

http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx166/dieselboy04/100_9870.jpg

http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx166/dieselboy04/100_9870.jpg

Nice rides! Is that your SS?

Those are very nice guys. Boatman, that thing is huge! Which model did you get? Jerry.


Its a starcraft camper model is RockStar with 12' garage. So far we like it haven't had very long yet and have only about 5-6 nights in it. Pretty damn heavy to tow but does tow very well. Thanks for the props that setup set me back a little but thats what we do for fun as a family so can't put a price on that.

Nice rides! Is that your SS? Thanks,yeah she's mine. That was my first car. I bought her when I was 14 restored her to what you see now. she'll never be done tho cause there's always something I wanna do different. Kinda like my truck. But I enjoy every sec of working on both of em.

This is what i normally tow. When I don't have the small boat behind the 5er, I'll have a 14' trailer with the golf cart.

I also have a dove tail gooseneck equipment trailer that I haul my tractor on.

Halloween in Ocotillo 2009.

18 foot car trailer, 20 foot equipment trailer, 14 foot utility, 40 foot gooseneck, other misc trailers. I use my 95 1/2 ton for the 18 and 14 footer some times. Been at 38,6xxlbs with the 40 footer.

This is what I tow now:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=32422&id=1051773437&l=68b01b81df
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=756561&l=0e73dab4e6&id=1051773437
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=756566&l=6bbe54d67c&id=1051773437
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=779303&l=94066ea540&id=1051773437

I've just started a new company (www.moveitorloseitFL.com (http://www.moveitorloseitFL.com)), so there is no telling what may sit on that trailer. Just got a call from someone that wanted to move a 16 foot, 7,000 lb. dump bed 17 miles...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/roadkill500ho/DSC00766.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/roadkill500ho/DSC00765.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/roadkill500ho/DSC00773.jpg

My set up getting out of a Forest Service Campground. This is why I am a big fan of the Pullrite Superglide automatic sliding hitch....

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee2/map_guy/Duramax/LakeCreekmotorcycletrip006.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee2/map_guy/Duramax/LakeCreekmotorcycletrip004_edited-1.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee2/map_guy/Duramax/LakeCreekmotorcycletrip005.jpg

My daily driver....

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/[IMG]http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv177/33outlaw/Coastal%20Stuff/IMG_2099.jpghttp://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv177/33outlaw/Coastal%20Stuff/IMG_2099.jpg

David

what are you towing in that? sweet rig man

Glamis
http://www.norcaltruck.com/01_misc_pic/copter/Glamis%20w%20Trailer.JPG

Pismo
http://www.norcaltruck.com/01_misc_pic/copter/Pismo%20w%20Trailer.JPG

Glamis
http://www.norcaltruck.com/01_misc_pic/copter/Glamis%20w%20Trailer.JPG




You missed the nice 5.8 earth quick this year at glamis, CRAZY watching all the trailers swaying around in the dunes!! :eek:

My set up getting out of a Forest Service Campground. This is why I am a big fan of the Pullrite Superglide automatic sliding hitch....

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee2/map_guy/Duramax/LakeCreekmotorcycletrip006.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee2/map_guy/Duramax/LakeCreekmotorcycletrip004_edited-1.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee2/map_guy/Duramax/LakeCreekmotorcycletrip005.jpg


What is up with that ladder sticking off the roof like that?

What is up with that ladder sticking off the roof like that?

Factory foldable ladder. In storage position it raises up and against sidewall. Nice idea but a pain in the trees..... I've got a mod planned to reduce the height but still keep most of the ladder intact/in place.

My set up getting out of a Forest Service Campground. This is why I am a big fan of the Pullrite Superglide automatic sliding hitch....

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee2/map_guy/Duramax/LakeCreekmotorcycletrip006.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee2/map_guy/Duramax/LakeCreekmotorcycletrip004_edited-1.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee2/map_guy/Duramax/LakeCreekmotorcycletrip005.jpg

Have you cranked that around far enough to see where it would hit on level ground?

Have you cranked that around far enough to see where it would hit on level ground?

Lets just say you don't want to go that far but yes it will go more than 90* backing up easily without touching the cab. On flat ground hitch runs out of rotation before you can hit. One of great things is that with the 8.5-9" bedrail clearance plus the ground clearance of trailer I am not limited to flat ground:D My trailer is definitely not a freeway queen. The pictues are from a trip in a civilized campground with 12' wide roads. This hitch is the "cats meow" for tight maneuvers using a SB truck/FW trailer. It is an expensive hitch but after towing with it - I won't ever go back to a manual slider. No worries about getting into and out of fuel stations that aren't set-up for trucks. Right hand turns in traffic don't need 6 lanes either to avoid bruising the curb side trailer tires as I can go deep into intersection and cut the turn hard (Slowly of coarse) unlike a non-moving hitch set-up SB truck that needs to make a gentler arc turn.

:)

that is a hell boat, I'm guess with trailer you have to be in around 14k. What does it have for power? Blown?

that is a hell boat, I'm guess with trailer you have to be in around 14k. What does it have for power? Blown?

The truck is stock lly ... the boat has a pair of big chevys..yes blown 1000hp each..
:)

here is my truck and trailer 13k loaded and a small trailer for the atvs.

20,000 lbs of bales
17,000 lbs of 4020, post pounder and fencing supplies
12,000 lbs of cows and calves
Truck and trailer not included.

Hauled 12 8in by 8 foot fence posts + 2 5 1/2 in posts in the bed today. Me and my dad are building a gate/fence on our land. The rear squatted some, but it handled it well.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/4257527763_9eec0ba5a4.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2424/3850989546_364218e80d.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/2593040181_0e97ced515.jpg

Fortunately, down to two horses (two too many as far as I'm concerned) and the Honda 650R is now a KTM 505 XCF.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3349/3553548889_4708bab39e.jpg

Nice!

Gracias. The buggy is torn down as present as I'm redoing the suspension. Going a bit overboard. My days of VW power plants are at an end too. Hoping to get a V-6 Honda in there this Summer if the diesel pump at the station doesn't take it all first.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3319/3553231978_195f7ff9f5.jpg

Hauling cattle while I was home last month.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Dually%20Chevy/PIC_0095.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Dually%20Chevy/PIC_0096.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Dually%20Chevy/PIC_0097.jpg


Grandad riding shotgun at the Groesbeck Auction barn.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Dually%20Chevy/PIC_0098.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/DRAGOONRANCH/Dually%20Chevy/PIC_0099.jpg

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=181&d=1136605984

http://http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=105576&d=1264081537

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=105576&d=1264081537

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/thunder12345/IMG00110-20090701-2021.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/thunder12345/IMG00110-20090701-2021.jpg
Do you have an inside pic of that camper? I never seen one of those with a slideout.

Mine is an 1150 which they will strongly suggest having a dually for as it weighs 4000lbs empty and has a height of approx 10' to the roof line not including the AC, etc. The slide is a 24" full wall slide, My wife and I camp with our two boys and have plenty of room.

Heres a site with used ones and pics.
http://www.rvtraderonline.com/find/browse/truck-camper/make/arctic-fox

BTW, I usually off load it with the remote controlled jacks. One of the biggest benefits are the really large holding tanks for a truck camper

First pic without color, Second with some color...

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/96ss1664/03%20Sonic%2031ss/100_0861.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/96ss1664/03%20Sonic%2031ss/JimmyBoat010.jpg

Heres some pics

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=thumb&p=106246&d=1264730785 (http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=106246&d=1264730785)

heres my truck pullung my loaded down 12 yd dumpster. About 13,000 lbs

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/4257527763_9eec0ba5a4.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2424/3850989546_364218e80d.jpg



Nice taste in toys! I like the truck/camper and boat setup for obvious reasons. :) Sorry for the attachments....need to work on my picture posting.

Heres some pics
That goose is HUGE!! If I pulled that behind me at home, I'd get arrested just on principal!

Heres some pics

Nice, is all I can say. There are not many who tow that long or that much weight on here. What's that deck ~35ft?

these are great pics, I love looking at pictures of truck working. :)

LONG TRIPS!

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f81/bigdaddy650r/stockton033.jpg

SHORT TRIPS!

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f81/bigdaddy650r/DSCN1670.jpg

Nothing too big. I towed everything with my Ranger so this will be like nothing. 1st is my plow tractor, my Chaparral boat and the link is to my fathers boat. We always use my uncles truck to move it around during the beginning and end of season. No more!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDB1YZ4naTs

Nice taste in toys! I like the truck/camper and boat setup for obvious reasons. :) Sorry for the attachments....need to work on my picture posting.
Thanks man. Can't wait for the temps to warm.


Every time I see this thread listed, this pops uncontrollably into my head:
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/0/0f/THE_BEST.jpg

Talk about maxing out vehicle capacity.

27,400 is what I got on some cat scales outside of Sacramento. I towed my orange Jeep CJ 7 and a buddies 1964 Dodge M 37 out to Cali and back from North Carolina .

98048

27,400 is what I got on some cat scales outside of Sacramento. I towed my orange Jeep CJ 7 and a buddies 1964 Dodge M 37 out to Cali and back from North Carolina .

98048

I like that setup. Very nice.

Not sure on the weight, handled it w/o effort though.

the new setup

http://www.houseofloy.net/smsmith/Moab_2010/MoabUT2010_Steves/dscf0241.jpg

the new setup

http://www.houseofloy.net/smsmith/Moab_2010/MoabUT2010_Steves/dscf0241.jpg


whats the axles you got on that trailer ?

7K each and running 235-85-16 load range G tires. :)

that would be the goodyear tires ?

I have bridgestone duravis r250 rating at 3040 lbs and sometimes it is crushed !

here is what I currently haul

heres pics of my truck and trailer as of today freshly washed !

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/philippeneveu/100_0791.jpg


http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/philippeneveu/100_0790.jpg

A day at the track......

that would be the goodyear tires ?

I have bridgestone duravis r250 rating at 3040 lbs and sometimes it is crushed !

2 off brands and 2 goodyears (I forget the off brand right now)

This is our 24' Sunline travel trailer: http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd280/randy_the_hack/PA060177.jpg

Glamis
http://www.norcaltruck.com/01_misc_pic/copter/Glamis%20w%20Trailer.JPG

Pismo
http://www.norcaltruck.com/01_misc_pic/copter/Pismo%20w%20Trailer.JPG

You missed the nice 5.8 earth quick this year at glamis, CRAZY watching all the trailers swaying around in the dunes!! :eek:



whens the next trip to Glamis ladies?

whens the next trip to Glamis ladies?

Oh I defiantly see people telling you events coming up after you ask that way.....

Tow a Heartland Sundance 3300CK

http://www.controlconceptsllc.com/micky/untitled.bmp

this is what we tow

this is what we tow

sweet camper.

what's your total weight?

This is the trailer I tow GCW=30,800 lbs.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs444.snc3/25472_110366942320895_100000427691187_172626_83735 31_n.jpg

loaded with

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs444.snc3/25472_110366945654228_100000427691187_172627_35619 91_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs444.snc3/25472_110366958987560_100000427691187_172630_22345 04_n.jpg


We scaled at 17k total on the way home after burning a few hundred pounds in fuel, food and firewood. The D ranges were within 200 pounds of being beyond capacity... and that was on the way back. So Im sure it was over on the way down, pumped them to max and checked the temp every stop, worked great.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs444.snc3/25472_110366942320895_100000427691187_172626_83735 31_n.jpg

loaded with

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs444.snc3/25472_110366945654228_100000427691187_172627_35619 91_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs444.snc3/25472_110366958987560_100000427691187_172630_22345 04_n.jpg


We scaled at 17k total on the way home after burning a few hundred pounds in fuel, food and firewood. The D ranges were within 200 pounds of being beyond capacity... and that was on the way back. So Im sure it was over on the way down, pumped them to max and checked the temp every stop, worked great.

Looks like you need bags under the back. It's incredible what they do especially when towing alot of weight.

1TFROT- I have not weighed the rig yet. It is 12,500 dry...so I am estimating 14,500 when full of water, fuel and stuff.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs197.ash2/45978_1490784242132_1609784384_1170728_8044896_n.j pg

1TFROT- I have not weighed the rig yet. It is 12,500 dry...so I am estimating 14,500 when full of water, fuel and stuff.

wow, lighter than I expected. it's a biggun! :D

1TFROT- I have not weighed the rig yet. It is 12,500 dry...so I am estimating 14,500 when full of water, fuel and stuff.

Those Fusions are nice -with model did you get?

Bet ya a beer your way heavier when toys, propane, water, fuel station and gear are loaded. Believe that trailer has an 18K GVWR.

My little ol' 30 foot toyhauler in signature is right at 14K with only 3 dirt bikes / gear for three on a week trip dry camping.

Its a 2008 373. The GVWR is only 16K. We currently don't have any toys to put in it of any size...typically tow it empty except for fuel for the gen. I am not doubting its heavier than the 12,500 at any time:) it is big, but until I can get a dually for under $50K....I'll have to make due with my SWR 3500.

Its a 2008 373. The GVWR is only 16K. We currently don't have any toys to put in it of any size...typically tow it empty except for fuel for the gen. I am not doubting its heavier than the 12,500 at any time:) it is big, but until I can get a dually for under $50K....I'll have to make due with my SWR 3500.

You don't need a dually by the numbers (and not even the dually disciples can argue that), the 2011 3500 SRW trucks are rated to 11,500 GVWR with a payload/pin capacity of 4200 lbs in crew cab 4x4 form. Easily enough to handle the trailer, even if you're at max 16k trailer weight which sounds unlikely.

My little 30'
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=117091&d=1284577017

Allis Chalmers 7045 guessing around 16,000lbs.

Brought my trailer home this past weekend. Towed from Sault Ste Marie to Regina Saskatchewan. About 1400 miles.
111004

Here is my question.... How many people pulling that much weight actually have licenses to cover them? In Arizona any trailer weighing over 10,001 pounds is required to have a CDL. I am just curious as to how many are actually properly licensed... and combined truck and trailer weight over 26,001 lbs also requires a CDL. So who is actually legal?

*I am not the police or trying to cause people to incriminate themselves... I am just wondering.

In Arizona any trailer weighing over 10,001 pounds is required to have a CDL..

Where did you hear that?

Here is my question.... How many people pulling that much weight actually have licenses to cover them?


My license are for 25,000lbs. Which I know is more than the rating is for my truck.

Where did you hear that?

Arizona state CDL study manual. Just did a google search and this took 8 seconds to find, "A vehicle towing a unit with a manufacturer's GVWR of more than 10,001 lbs." In the state of Arizona is required to have a CDL.

If you go look it up in the actual manual ( you can do this online) it is found on page 11 of the CDL study manual.

Arizona state CDL study manual. Just did a google search and this took 8 seconds to find, "A vehicle towing a unit with a manufacturer's GVWR of more than 10,001 lbs." In the state of Arizona is required to have a CDL.

If you go look it up in the actual manual ( you can do this online) it is found on page 11 of the CDL study manual.

Are you sure that was Arizona's manual?

Can you post a link to where it said that?

It wouldn't fit any class of CDL that is listed in the AZ CDL manual.


The CDL is divided into three classes of license:

Class A: Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more) provided the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

Class B: Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess 10,000 pounds GVWR.

Class C: Any single, or combination of vehicles, with a GVWR of less than 26,001 pounds or a vehicle combination less than 26,001 pounds, but that either is designed to transport 16 or more passengers including the driver, or is used in the transportation of materials found to be hazardous for the purposes of the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act and which require the motor vehicle to be placarded under the Hazardous Materials Regulations (49 CFR part 172, subpart F and 42 CFR 73.)

http://mvd.azdot.gov/mvd/formsandpub/viewPDF.asp?lngProductKey=567&lngFormInfoKey=567

My license are for 25,000lbs. Which I know is more than the rating is for my truck.

You must be talking about your plates?

In Washington State there is an RV exemption that negates the need for CDL on RV truck/trailers and motorhomes.

Each State and Province is different on how they handle Commerce/Farm(AG) Commerce/Personal Use(RV). There is no one answer for all the states and provinces for a 10001# trailer behind a pickup....

It would be better if the "legality" questions/comments would go back to the other thread instead of polluting this thread.

Each State is different on how they handle Commerce/Farm(AG) Commerce/Personal Use(RV). There is no one answer for all the states and provinces for a 10001# trailer behind a pickup.....

Negative, besides CA I have to see a state that varies from the federal standard for CDL requirements. IF you have an example of one please post it up.

Negative, besides CA I have to see a state that varies from the federal standard for CDL requirements. IF you have an example of one please post it up.

I thought that PA was different but I don't have any links.


As far as the AZ CDL thing, I've never seen anything different than the post above that mirrors the fed rules.

http://mvd.azdot.gov/mvd/formsandpub/viewPDF.asp?lngProductKey=567&lngFormInfoKey=567

Go to the beginning of Section 1 (pg 9)

I thought that PA was different but I don't have any links.


As far as the AZ CDL thing, I've never seen anything different than the post above that mirrors the fed rules.

http://mvd.azdot.gov/mvd/formsandpub/viewPDF.asp?lngProductKey=567&lngFormInfoKey=567

Go to the beginning of Section 1 (pg 9)

PA is the same as the Fed.

PA is the same as the Fed.

Ok, I thought there was one other one besides Cali. If I find something I'll post it up.

http://mvd.azdot.gov/mvd/formsandpub/viewPDF.asp?lngProductKey=567&lngFormInfoKey=567 See page 11.

This is right out of the manual. "There is a federal requirement that each state have minimum standards for the licensing of commercial drivers.
This manual provides driver license testing information for drivers who wish to have a commercial driver license (CDL). This manual does NOT provide information on all the federal and state requirements needed before you can drive a commercial motor vehicle (CMV).
You must have a CDL to operate:
Any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating • (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more.
A combination vehicle with a gross combined weight • rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, if the trailer(s) has a GVWR of 10,001 or more pounds.
A vehicle designed to transport 16 or more passengers • (including the driver).
Any size vehicle which requires hazardous material • placards or is carrying material listed as a select agent or toxin in 42 CFR part 73. Federal regulations require a background records check and fingerprinting through the Department of Homeland Security when applying for the Hazardous Materials endorsement."I asked a DPS officer, and he confirmed it. It can also be found in the Arizona Revised Statutes section 28.

2011 Keystone Alpine 3500RE - 40ft. - 15,500lbs

http://images.rvs.com/13242/128651/100_1669.JPG

http://mvd.azdot.gov/mvd/formsandpub/viewPDF.asp?lngProductKey=567&lngFormInfoKey=567 See page 11.

This is right out of the manual. "There is a federal requirement that each state have minimum standards for the licensing of commercial drivers.
This manual provides driver license testing information for drivers who wish to have a commercial driver license (CDL). This manual does NOT provide information on all the federal and state requirements needed before you can drive a commercial motor vehicle (CMV).
You must have a CDL to operate:
Any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating • (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more.
A combination vehicle with a gross combined weight • rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, if the trailer(s) has a GVWR of 10,001 or more pounds.
A vehicle designed to transport 16 or more passengers • (including the driver).
Any size vehicle which requires hazardous material • placards or is carrying material listed as a select agent or toxin in 42 CFR part 73. Federal regulations require a background records check and fingerprinting through the Department of Homeland Security when applying for the Hazardous Materials endorsement."I asked a DPS officer, and he confirmed it. It can also be found in the Arizona Revised Statutes section 28.

Can you highlight where it says you need a CDL solely because the trailer is over 10k?

If you did need one what class would you need?

Did you see the flow chart in the book?

You don't need a CDL if the trailer is over 10K only if the trailer is over 10K and the combined weight of the truck and trailer are over or capable of being heavier than 26,001 pounds. We have several CDL drivers for work (all vehicles are DOT compliant) and have been throught this many times. I was pulled over once at a weigh station and weighed (in a one ton van) I was over weight when compared to door sticker, but they could do nothing because the total weight was well under the 26,001.

Well I maybe be wrong. However I asked a friend who is a DPS officer and he said any trailer over 10,001 #'s required a CDL. It is kind of confusing to read it all. I occasionally tow ever that weight limit, so I was concerned. That is how he explained it to me. I am not saying he knows all, but he should know more about it then I do.

You don't need a CDL if the trailer is over 10K only if the trailer is over 10K and the combined weight of the truck and trailer are over or capable of being heavier than 26,001 pounds. We have several CDL drivers for work (all vehicles are DOT compliant) and have been throught this many times. I was pulled over once at a weigh station and weighed (in a one ton van) I was over weight when compared to door sticker, but they could do nothing because the total weight was well under the 26,001.

That's how I understand it, my 15.6k gooseneck is under CDL because the truck is only 9.2k, totaling 24,880lbs max allowable weight. I'm surprised they didn't mess with you for being over on the sticker weight.

Well I maybe be wrong. However I asked a friend who is a DPS officer and he said any trailer over 10,001 #'s required a CDL. It is kind of confusing to read it all. I occasionally tow ever that weight limit, so I was concerned. That is how he explained it to me. I am not saying he knows all, but he should know more about it then I do.

To help find out if you need the CDL or not look at that flowchart on pg. 9 (pg 11 of the pdf file). If you are towing with the truck in your sig you would need a trailer rated for more than 16,800lb to put you into CDL territory. (9200+16800=26000)

Here is my question.... How many people pulling that much weight actually have licenses to cover them? In Arizona any trailer weighing over 10,001 pounds is required to have a CDL. I am just curious as to how many are actually properly licensed... and combined truck and trailer weight over 26,001 lbs also requires a CDL. So who is actually legal?

*I am not the police or trying to cause people to incriminate themselves... I am just wondering.

Hey Javelina80,

Are you a commercial hauler? Only commercial are governed by the CDL rules. Private trailers aren't part of CDL...

Regards, Hamshog

In Washington State there is an RV exemption that negates the need for CDL on RV truck/trailers and motorhomes.

Each State and Province is different on how they handle Commerce/Farm(AG) Commerce/Personal Use(RV). There is no one answer for all the states and provinces for a 10001# trailer behind a pickup....

It would be better if the "legality" questions/comments would go back to the other thread instead of polluting this thread.

Negative, besides CA I have to see a state that varies from the federal standard for CDL requirements. IF you have an example of one please post it up.

Here you go
http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/cdlexempt.html

and Flow chart
http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/cdlvehicles.html

Here you go
http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/cdlexempt.html

Those guidelines are the same as Fed:

You must have a commercial driver license (CDL) to drive any of the following vehicles:

All single vehicles with a manufacturer’s weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more.
All trailers with a manufacturer’s weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more, and a combined vehicles’ gross weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more.
All vehicles designed to transport 16 or more persons (including the driver). This includes private and church buses.
All school buses, regardless of size.
All vehicles used to transport any material that requires hazardous material placarding or any quantity of a material listed as a select agent or toxin in 42 CFR 73 (http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_07/42cfr73_07.html).

The exemptions may be slightly different but the requirements are not like California in that you automatically need a CDL over 10k, the basic requirements are the same as the Fed guidelines.

Those guidelines are the same as Fed:


Ditto.

Here you go
http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/cdlexempt.html

and Flow chart
http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/cdlvehicles.html

I guess I fail to see your point. :confused:

Ditto.



I guess I fail to see your point. :confused:

Me too

Tow this during the summer

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/RockReady/TylerB/DSC00875Small.jpg

or this 9 months out of the year

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/RockReady/97%20Jeep%20Wrangler%20TJ/IMG_0952.jpg

The F150 was hating life as a tow rig....so it was retired and replaced with a DURAMAX!

I'll take the boat!

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/roadkill500ho/bobcat.jpg

09Dmax....spec on the trailer?

whitecc,

It's the 24' trailer I was telling you I could get some measurements off of while at work today. It's got two 7k axles. Sucker pulls like a dream. I'll get those measurements sometime today if I ever get a free minute besides lunch.

Sure thing....I realized it was you after i posted...thanks again!

Trip from Sheridan WY.-Coeur D' Alene ID. 27700#
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/WYOBoatman/083.jpg
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/WYOBoatman/084.jpg

This is what I primarily haul.

114224

Sundance 3300CK

As much as I love Dmax's you are not going to find one that could handle this load. Power yes, truck no way. This is right at 28,000 lbs going down the road. Belongs to my friend. It one of those heavy duty Ford 450's. Hell of a truck. That's a 21' fiberglass boat with trailer and a 250 hp 4 stroke outboard hanging off of it.

I usually pull my 5ver and the boat at the same time, my 07 LBZ loved that load.. The John Deer gets moved several times a week but with the trailer it only weighs 10k, No issues for the dmax. Going to take a short trip this weekend with my new 3500 Lmm pulling the 5ver and the boat. Boat and 5ver together will be 16-17k. The old LBZ never hesitated with that load,,Anxious to see how the LMM will act...

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=253&pictureid=930










http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=253&pictureid=931

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=253&pictureid=932

As much as I love Dmax's you are not going to find one that could handle this load. Power yes, truck no way. This is right at 28,000 lbs going down the road. Belongs to my friend. It one of those heavy duty Ford 450's. Hell of a truck. That's a 21' fiberglass boat with trailer and a 250 hp 4 stroke outboard hanging off of it.

Now that's called ingenuity! I'd imagine that the boat would want to "fly away" at higher speeds with it pointing up in the air like that??

As much as I love Dmax's you are not going to find one that could handle this load. Power yes, truck no way. This is right at 28,000 lbs going down the road. Belongs to my friend. It one of those heavy duty Ford 450's. Hell of a truck. That's a 21' fiberglass boat with trailer and a 250 hp 4 stroke outboard hanging off of it.
how the hell do you get the boat up there and off there?

how the hell do you get the boat up there and off there? Subman gets on one side, his friend on the other and they just lift!! :D

I'd imagine ramps and a winch are used in the process.......

holy shit subman, you guys must have been drinking a good amount to determine, yup we can fit that boat right there. lol

http://i52.tinypic.com/2jbr3mb.jpg

how the hell do you get the boat up there and off there?

It sits on it's own loader, pulled up by a winch and the ramps slide into the bed slick as hell. I have some great pictures of it but this worthless ****ing site will not let me download them because it says they are already downloaded in another thread an old one the Duramax vs. Powerstroke vs. Cummins thread, but be damn if I can find them.

It sits on it's own loader, pulled up by a winch and the ramps slide into the bed slick as hell. I have some great pictures of it but this worthless ****ing site will not let me download them because it says they are already downloaded in another thread an old one the Duramax vs. Powerstroke vs. Cummins thread, but be damn if I can find them.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3572139&postcount=657

These ones?

Ive hauled some 48 foot park model trailers. the most i pulled was an overloaded enclosed car hauler truck and trailer tipped the scales at 36,700 that day. drove it 1800 miles. Oh yeah with my odometer right at 705,000 miles. i wouldnt trade this truck for anything

Ive hauled some 48 foot park model trailers. the most i pulled was an overloaded enclosed car hauler truck and trailer tipped the scales at 36,700 that day. drove it 1800 miles. Oh yeah with my odometer right at 705,000 miles. i wouldnt trade this truck for anything

on your '06 LBZ?

heaviest load so far. moms youkon with blown spider gears. ~6k truck, 4k trailer. 10,000 lbs no problem.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3572139&postcount=657

These ones?

Yes thanks, not sure why I could bring them up. Operator error probably.:eek: Wonder why you can't post the same pics in two different threads? Thanks again.

Yes thanks, not sure why I could bring them up. Operator error probably.:eek: Wonder why you can't post the same pics in two different threads? Thanks again.

No problem, I remember seeing a setup like this a long time ago and always thought they were an interesting way to get two trailers to the same place at once.

Mine
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/drgixxer/Toy%20Hauler/IMG_3114.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o15/drgixxer/Toy%20Hauler/IMG_3151.jpg

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Some serious loads in here!

Wonder why you can't post the same pics in two different threads? Thanks again.

Because it wastes server space and bandwidth. Just link to them ;)

Scrap generators from my friend... was told the load was about 10k lbs, turned out that the total weight was 25,600 lbs, trailer had over 14k lbs on it, it weighs 4k empty. I guess I built the trailer pretty well, as it took a 4k lb overload, and I will never take someones word on weight again.

Truck is a 6.0/ 5 speed 2500