I just made an appointment to get my FPR replaced at a local dealership. The service manager suggested also a "Fuel Induction Service" @ $195 . My question is: Is this a valid service or just a "made up" ploy to charge me extra? If this service will actually help the performance/reliability of my truck, I have no problem getting it. Just don't want to be the guy who pays for winter air in my tires. He mentioned about cleaning the injectors and checking and adjusting the balance rates. Not being that smart on these NASA built diesels, I am a little unsure.

what in the heck is a fuel inducton service?????????????????????

okay well i did some looking and i found something on GM inside news forum. Go here: http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f53/bg-fuel-induction-service-20063/ i hope this helps. it did for me haha

I just took my truck in for a free fluid top off and other components checked with a coupon I got in the mail. One of the things they wrote up was an injector cleaning. Now my service advisor has always been great. But when I questioned her about this, she said "check you owners manual".
I haven't yet, but if you look under the "maintenence" section on this forum, Eric Merchant wrote a list of the maint procedures to accomplish, and I didn't see anything about injector cleaning. I am not claiming to know a whole lot about diesels, but if a tech doesn't talk about it, then it probably isn't required. I do use "power service" at every fill up now. Jerry.

I was thinking the same thing, I use either Diesel Kleen or Stanadyne every fillup. I also change the fuel filter more than recommended. I think I'll just pass on this service for now. The truck only has 55K miles and has not been driven rough.

I was thinking the same thing, I use either Diesel Kleen or Stanadyne every fillup. I also change the fuel filter more than recommended. I think I'll just pass on this service for now. The truck only has 55K miles and has not been driven rough.

I'm with you. I have only 45k on mine. And as the saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I understand there are limits and exceptions, but so is throwing money away. Jerry.

We offered them at the dealership and I must admit I was leary of recommending them at first. Of the first three I did, 2 reported increased fuel economy, one reported a smoother idle, and the last was performed after a bad tank of fuel resulted in a bad miss and a balance rate that was WAY out of spec on the #8 hole. Performed the service, drove the hell out of it for about 12-15 miles, rechecked and found no miss and all balance rates back in spec. I no longer work there or perform that service since i no longer have access to the equipment but if I did have,, that'd be my first shot at curing a miss or rough idle. That said,, i would not however gaurantee it would fix anything or that it's be a perminent solution, but i can say all the results I were given were positive.

I just had mine done at a local shop they use a BG system , they said my truck blacked out the whole shop, it was more @$300 but truck runs better I willknow more on a long trip, my friend did his ford and it really helped him

The way I see it is it probably helps depending on why you are getting it done. Maybe its not running smooth, or maybe smoking. Then yes, chances are that you will see an improvement. I see it kind of like switching to synthetic. Some swear by it, and probably benefit from it say if you are towing a lot. While others feel that conventional oil is ok. Either way, it probably can't hurt to get it done, but is it necessary? It's too early to do the math, but at $150+, how many mles to reap the benefits of the improved mileage? Jerry.

I figure once every 50-75000 miles will help in the long run, I hope!!

Is this procedure cleaning the actual intake runners to the cylinders them selves Can some one exsplain the prossess of how it is done.

yes the service I had done sprays a cleaner thru the intake before turbo so it cleans vanes and everything also sprays thru injectors and complete fuel system, they ran it for one hour, then took it home and changed oil and new fuel filter as they were due anyway, I guess fords are more because they have to change oil after

The service we offer has a canister which you fill with concentrated cleaner, then unhook the fuel lines on the truck and hook the supply line from the tank to a hose on the canister, a hose on the canister to the engine side supply line and the fuel return line from the engine to the canister. start the engine and let run till it empties the canister and dies. reconnect the lines, prime and test drive to clear it up and she's good to go.

The service we offer has a canister which you fill with concentrated cleaner, then unhook the fuel lines on the truck and hook the supply line from the tank to a hose on the canister, a hose on the canister to the engine side supply line and the fuel return line from the engine to the canister. start the engine and let run till it empties the canister and dies. reconnect the lines, prime and test drive to clear it up and she's good to go.
that is a little differentthan what I had done, but that is what I used to do to my mercedes diesel

I can see this on a gasser, but a dmax I'm not so sure. First what fuel lines are the going to unhook to draw from a canister? It would have to be pre CP3, otherwise it would be pressurized. So they are unhooking at the tank?

Second spraying into the intake track does nothing for the injectors. It would clean the turbo, egr and so on and this would probably make tons of smoke, but also probably do little in the way of making it run better. For me it would do very little since my EGR is blocked and that is the source of the most build up.

Seems to me it would be better to take the money and buy some stanadyne and add that to your tank when you fill up.

they tied in before the filter

This doesn't sound like something I would need. My EGR was replaced about 2K miles ago. When my GF picked the truck up, they had a whole long laundry list of "recommended" services. I guess they saw a female and started counted their money.

hey silver, what did they call your service, and who did you have do it? Might be in the market for it when I drive back across the country in a few months.

Its a BG system, had it done a rons tire here in bullhead city, I have known the family for around 40 years so when they told me all the fire dept. had there own system and I saw how much better his ford ran I tried it, haven't taken a long trip yet but driving around town it really runs and accelerates faster and smoother

thanks!

MadMatt, was it the BG system your dealer used? They demo'd it for me when I was back in the dealer and I think we did it on my truck. I did not notice a difference but was not having any trouble, the truck was nearly new at the time.
I would like to try something to help clean the intake tract on the EGR motors. That stuff is nasty. I know the chemical works becuase I use the BG stuff to manually clean the runners etc when motors are apart. Would be nice to see if it will work when injected via a spray nozzle.

bg and 3m sell kits(carquest has 3m kits out front normally) they run cleaner thru 1;fuel tank(same as any fuel additive; stanadyne,dieselkleen and others) 2; injector cleaner, plumb into fuel line, i preload my fuel filter with some seafoam and fuel additive, same thing. 3; then they run spray cleaner thru intake to remove accumilater crud that EPA has fed to engine(EGR), i use mercury product on "gas" engines, powertune it removes acummilated crud and has seemed to help engines run better. this product is intended to remove built-up 2cycle oil inside engines that cause rings to stick. i won't use it on diesel for fear of run-away engine. if intake needs cleaned you need just spend weekend with some dawn and brushed, think how much intake piping there is to these engines includine the intercooler, don't think spraycleaner will remove it all, when installed on engine.

Those are the easier parts to clean, its the stuff from the Y bridge to the intake valve I'm wanting to get clean

I can see this on a gasser, but a dmax I'm not so sure. First what fuel lines are the going to unhook to draw from a canister? It would have to be pre CP3, otherwise it would be pressurized. So they are unhooking at the tank?

Second spraying into the intake track does nothing for the injectors. It would clean the turbo, egr and so on and this would probably make tons of smoke, but also probably do little in the way of making it run better. For me it would do very little since my EGR is blocked and that is the source of the most build up.

Seems to me it would be better to take the money and buy some stanadyne and add that to your tank when you fill up.

yep, unhook at the quick connects right above the left valve cover. and the service we did doesn't spray anything into the intake.

[quote=dmaxalliTech;3530410]MadMatt, was it the BG system your dealer used? quote]
nope it was actually a Valvalene product but i'm not sure what brand the tool was we used to perform the service. it was provided by the oil company. It was just a metal canistor with three hoses coming from it.

Hey Eric,, here's what we used,,, http://www.valvoline.com/products/valvoline-professional-series/fuel-system-service/93