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: LUXURY bose amp work in our trucks?


msievz7
05-25-2005, 02:22 PM
Just wondering if the luxury bose amp from an escalade/denali is a direct plug'n'play with our factory bose system? thanks,

sievz

ski1
05-25-2005, 02:23 PM
there is another topic with this info, short answer is yes with some connector/wiring mods......

Bodysurfer
05-25-2005, 02:28 PM
Read someone here that a guy swapped them and he stated that the system now sound a WHOLE LOT better. I am thinking about getting one for about $162.00.


Anyone else here know if this is a workable swap?????


LATER!

mwgasman
05-25-2005, 02:54 PM
It is a workable swap. I did the Escalade NAV (INR) swap with a Luxury amp. It is straightforward. It involves a few wiring changes at the amp connector.

I don't know if you could swap the NON-Luxury amp for the Luxury amp with the stock (NON-Lxury) headunit. The Luxury headunit sends low level signals to the amp and then sends the volume level signals to the amp over the class II data wire. The NON-Luxury headunit sends scaled signals to the amp without using the class 2 data wire. The NON-Luxury bose amp has no connection to the class 2 data wire.

There is a definite improvement in the sound quality between the NON-Luxury and Luxury amps.

btw I have the wiring instructions if anyone needs them. PM me If you'd like.


*** Be careful about buying a NEW amp. The luxury amps have to be programmed with a tech 2 if they are new. Many people have been unsuccesful in having their amps programmed with the tech 2 to work in crewcabs. The only tried and true solution is to use a Luxury amp removed from a vehicle with Y91 Luxury sound.
Mike

msievz7
05-25-2005, 03:09 PM
I would just be swapping the amps, not the head unit. Is there anywhere I can find out if it will work. I read the post about getting a lot better sound out of the lux. amp, which is all i am going for (not adding a sub or changing head units, just improved sound).

Bodysurfer
05-25-2005, 03:10 PM
I would just be swapping the amps, not the head unit. Is there anywhere I can find out if it will work. I read the post about getting a lot better sound out of the lux. amp, which is all i am going for (not adding a sub or changing head units, just improved sound).

I 2nd that !

See this Luxury Bose Amp for sale:

mwgasman
05-25-2005, 04:52 PM
You will almost surely need a luxury headunit to use a luxury amp. If I still had my stock radio I would try the stock radio/luxury amp combo for you.

smshiver
05-26-2005, 12:58 AM
The "premium" systems we have in our trucks is analog. The "Luxury" system is digital. You WILL have to change out the head unit or you will fry the LUX amp. See the following thread:

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32564

I just did this modification and I love it.:D

DURAtotheMAX
05-26-2005, 01:03 AM
Yup, mwgasman is correct....DO NOT TRY a "Premium" head unit with a "LUX" amp!!! You will fry it!!! because as he said, the amps receive audio signals differently...the Premium head unit sends them out at much too high a pre-out voltage for the Lux amp. I know of one guy for sure who killed his lux amp trying this...im sure there have been others. If you do not want navigation but want to put a Lux amp in, you will need a 6-disc radio (RPO code UC6) out of an H2. Make sure the part number is 15179349. This is the only 6 disc radio that will work with the lux amp. You can of course also use a single cd/tape radio (RPO code UB1) but make sure its from an Escalade or Denali!!!

---Ben

Bodysurfer
05-26-2005, 01:04 AM
The "premium" systems we have in our trucks is analog. The "Luxury" system is digital. You WILL have to change out the head unit or you will fry the LUX amp. See the following thread:

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32564

I just did this modification and I love it.:D

Which mod...they talked about a few there. Did you use the 2003-up (Non-Bose & Bose) Amp Interface #AOEM-GM24?

LATER!

DURAtotheMAX
05-26-2005, 01:47 AM
No external adapters are required. You just need a Luxury amp compatible head unit, a Luxury amp, and you need to change some pins around on the amp wiring connectors. Its quite simple. The AOEM-GM24 is used if you are going to add an aftermarket amplifier to an OEM head unit...

--Ben

Bodysurfer
05-26-2005, 01:50 AM
I see, this whole thing is driving me nuts. :banghead: I just want to have a better sounding system.

smshiver
05-26-2005, 01:14 PM
Bodysurfer .... It took me four hours to complete this modification. Look for the head unit part number 15179349 and one of seven amp part numbers (here's two 15114454 and 15191601) using the "search items and descriptions" function on Ebay. You will eventually find both for about $200 total. Also, you will want to get about 5 pins from the dealer, part number 12089649.

DURAtotheMAX helped me out and he or I can send you the instructions. It took me longer to get the amps unbolted and bolted in than it took to reconfigure the pins on the amp plugs.

You will lose your speed controled volume by doing this modification, though. Still worth it.:D

msievz7
05-26-2005, 02:16 PM
thanks a lot guys, you've been a ton of help on this....now I know what I need to find to make it work. I'll let you know how it goes.


sievz

msievz7
05-26-2005, 02:31 PM
bodysurfer,

I am also looking on ebay for the head unit/amp....let's not drive up the price on one another....I'll let you know the item # I am looking at before I place a bid, and if you would do the same, we can both keep our costs down.

sievz

Bodysurfer
05-27-2005, 02:27 AM
Copy !


LATER!

DURAtotheMAX
05-27-2005, 02:35 AM
Good thinking working together guys!! Like smvhier said, he or I will be happy to help out once you have the head unit and lux amp collected...

----Ben

msievz7
05-27-2005, 11:00 AM
Bodysurfer,

Here is the item number I am watching on ebay. 7977024774.

smshiver
05-27-2005, 02:10 PM
Bid on it now. You need to get in line so you are an earlier bidder than everyone else. I bid $2 just to secure a place in line if you all didn't find it. That IS the right head unit.

Minn-Kota
05-27-2005, 02:43 PM
Sorry, I bid on it last night. This could get interesting....

msievz7
05-27-2005, 03:05 PM
I'll just stay off this one so we don't drive the price up....I'm sure more will come up.

smshiver
05-27-2005, 04:29 PM
This one's for Minn-Kota. I'll keep an eye out for more and the amplifiers.

Minn-Kota
05-27-2005, 07:05 PM
Well, someone else wants it pretty bad. I know if you bid-in the maximum you wish to pay it'll bid for you, but I just wanted to see how bad this person wants it. He's not getting it for cheap. lol. I read someone did this project for $200, so I don't know how far I should go on this thing. There hasn't been any success in locating an amp yet here either.

I'm not sure what a fair price is for one of these radios. I know a lot of people are going with the NAV headunit and Lux amp upgrade but the 6-disc will suit me fine. I'm thinking of calling around to some stereo shops to see if any of these radios have been pulled to be replaced with an aftermarket system. Not a great number of H2's around here though! :(

Another question I had was about the theft-loc. Is there anyway to bypass it short of taking it to a dealer? I found the procedure once for older Delco radios, but not sure if it'd work on these.

Diesel Dragon
05-27-2005, 08:12 PM
Everyone's bidding against each other driving up the price's, I was bidding on a LUX amp too on e-bay, but some one bought it now for $250.00

I think were all going to be bidding against each other for a while.

Let's do a group buy of LUX amp's :lol:

DURAtotheMAX
05-28-2005, 12:25 AM
Someone asked about a Theftlock bypass...there is a way to bypass it..sort of. First turn the key to ACC. The radio will turn on and display "Locked" or "Theftlock Engaged". Now pull the radio fuse out for 5 seconds (with the key still on ACC) and replace it. The radio will completely unlock temporarrily until you turn the key to START. So basically, you will not move the truck with the radio playing, but the radio is happy to let you test things out with the key in the ACC position. Alternatively, you can also just pull the main plug on the back of the radio for 5 seconds (instead of pulling the fuse). Has the same effect. Now you dont have to run to the dealer just to test your work. (you will have to run to the dealer at some point though!)

---Ben

DURAtotheMAX
05-28-2005, 12:30 AM
I bet a good source of H2 radios would be ANY good stereo shop in southern California!!! Tons of celebrities with H2's and do you think ANY of them still have the stock stereo? nooooooo way!

---Ben

TheBac
05-28-2005, 12:32 AM
heres a correct radio currently for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7977024774&category=38641&sspagename=WDVW#ebayphotohosting

DURAtotheMAX
05-28-2005, 12:38 AM
Sorry guys...just thought of another thing... If you have a good dealer it might be worth asking them if they can TIS-program the 6-disc radio that came in your trucks to work with LUX amps. Remember, the radios are all physically identical...GM spending money to actually make physically different radios?? HA!!! The only difference is in the radio software. If you can find a technitian who is savvy enough and willing to try something new (there are plenty out there who will snub you and say it cant be done because it is not in GM's magical book of textbook procedures), it IS possible to take the 6-disc "Premium" radio out of your truck, hook it up to the TIS computer, load Luxury amp software into it, and BINGO...the radio now speaks "LUX"!!!
Give it a shot...no harm trying...

---Ben

Minn-Kota
05-28-2005, 10:51 AM
heres a correct radio currently for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7977024774&category=38641&sspagename=WDVW#ebayphotohosting

Yeah, no kiddin?? That's the one I bid on and is mentioned above. :lol:

smshiver
05-28-2005, 07:00 PM
I paid $200 for a LUX 6-disk radio. One sold a couple days ago for $120.

RaceHemi
06-01-2005, 01:41 PM
Sorry guys...just thought of another thing... If you have a good dealer it might be worth asking them if they can TIS-program the 6-disc radio that came in your trucks to work with LUX amps. Remember, the radios are all physically identical...GM spending money to actually make physically different radios?? HA!!! The only difference is in the radio software. If you can find a technitian who is savvy enough and willing to try something new (there are plenty out there who will snub you and say it cant be done because it is not in GM's magical book of textbook procedures), it IS possible to take the 6-disc "Premium" radio out of your truck, hook it up to the TIS computer, load Luxury amp software into it, and BINGO...the radio now speaks "LUX"!!!
Give it a shot...no harm trying...

---Ben


Has anyone verified that this will work?

DURAtotheMAX
06-01-2005, 11:17 PM
Technically, it *will* work... The problem is just finding a technitian/dealer who will listen to you and program it for you. I did the nav install/lux amp conversion in my dad's Tahoe before I did the conversion in my truck. The TNR I bought on eBay was out of an H2 SUT. The guy on the auction page said he could program it for LUX or PREMIUM amps. I was a little skeptical of this because I didnt think it could be done. I bought it and asked him to program it for a LUX amp. (remember the H2 SUT's have PREMIUM amps) The TNR arrived, I hooked it up to the lux amp and lo and behold, it worked!!! So that shows that it CAN be done... (at least to a TNR...I have no reason to beleive that the UC6's would operate/program any differently)

---Ben

TheBac
06-02-2005, 06:47 PM
IIRC, one of the "questions" the Tech II asks the technician while programming a radio is "Bose or Non-Bose Radio?" Could this be where you can "Lux" it?

Tom

Minn-Kota
06-02-2005, 06:56 PM
If you do not want navigation but want to put a Lux amp in, you will need a 6-disc radio (RPO code UC6) out of an H2. Make sure the part number is 15179349. This is the only 6 disc radio that will work with the lux amp. You can of course also use a single cd/tape radio (RPO code UB1) but make sure its from an Escalade or Denali!!!

---Ben

So the single CD from an Escalade or Denali is considered "Luxury"? If that's all I can find I'd be happy with that too. Do you happen to know what years and/or part numbers of these single disc radios that will work with a luxury amp??

Thanks

Minn-Kota
06-02-2005, 07:27 PM
Also, will a 6-disc out of an Escalade/Denali work as well?

smshiver
06-03-2005, 12:12 AM
The single CD/cassette unit out of an Escalade should work. I just sold one on Ebay and am waiting for payment. If it falls through, I'll let you know before I relist it. The part number was 15104156. I bought it as part of a package that had a Lux amp. I just needed the amp.

The only 6-disk unit that will work is 15179349 as far as I know.

Bodysurfer
06-03-2005, 12:25 AM
Just sent you email smshiver.

LATER!

Minn-Kota
06-03-2005, 08:16 AM
smshiver-

Let me know if that deal falls through. I have no problem using the single-disc HU as long as it's basically plug & play like the H2 unit, other than Theft-loc of course. Do you know of any other part numbers for the single's? Thanks!

msievz7
06-03-2005, 09:24 AM
DuratotheMax,

Is there any way you can still contact this guy on ebay so we can get a little more info out of him?

sievz

RaceHemi
06-03-2005, 10:32 AM
What happens to our XM subscriptions when the HU is changed out? Will the XM id change?

The Original Diesel
06-03-2005, 12:08 PM
What happens to our XM subscriptions when the HU is changed out? Will the XM id change?

No, because you retained the same XM tuner..............which is a completely separate box.