Hey guys, just wanted to give you a heads up, the CS/CTS version 2 firmware is just around the corner, here's a preview of what you'll see when you update :D

Version 2.0 software for the Evolution CS and CTS is currently in testing and expected to release in November! This new version includes some amazing new features and extended application coverage! Check out the features and new coverage below along with some new pics!

· Customize your display background with any image of your choice or choose from a bunch of Edge-created images
· Change the color of your gauge arcs to match your new background or your personal style!
· 1999 – 2008 GM, V8 gas-powered trucks and SUVs (2009 coming soon)!
· 2001-2009 GM Duramax Diesel trucks!
· 1997-2008 Ford 4.6 and 5.4L F-150s (2009 coming soon)!
· 1994-2007 Ford Diesel Powerstroke Trucks (08-09 6.4L coming soon)!

Best of all, version 2.0 for the Evolution CS and CTS products can be downloaded over the internet right from your home computer!


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Hey Rob,

Those background options look awesome... Can't wait to get the update...

awesome! I'll be anxiously awaiting. :)

Nice Rob, you guy's are kicking Ass. Here's mine:D

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I see in the picture they have MPG being viewed. How do I get that on mine?? I keep looking for it and can't seem to find it or is it part of the update? Would be nice to see what MPG I am getting without using the DIC.

Nice Rob, you guy's are kicking Ass. Here's mine:D

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Thats BAD ASS!!!

That looks awesome.

I see in the picture they have MPG being viewed. How do I get that on mine?? I keep looking for it and can't seem to find it or is it part of the update? Would be nice to see what MPG I am getting without using the DIC.

Me too

Also, has the accuracy of the boost readings improved with the new cts? I want to buy one, but not if it is as inaccurate as previous digital gauges I have use. BTW: I am specifically referring to my 03 lb7.

Thats sick! I cant wait till I get mine!!!

Me too

Junior PM'd me about the MPG and I answered him in a PM, but so you know also, the MPG that is displayed on the DLC is not sent across the bus. So in order to display it we have to come up with our own algorithm. This is something that we have on the to do list. I can't say when it will be added for sure, but it is a feature we plan on supporting.

I see in the picture they have MPG being viewed. How do I get that on mine?? I keep looking for it and can't seem to find it or is it part of the update? Would be nice to see what MPG I am getting without using the DIC.

I talked with Edge Products & asked them about the Mpg. I was told you won’t see instant MPG until when the Mileage Max comes out. They are working on it...

Also, has the accuracy of the boost readings improved with the new cts? I want to buy one, but not if it is as inaccurate as previous digital gauges I have use. BTW: I am specifically referring to my 03 lb7.

This is what I heard directly from a guy high up on Edge products food chain.. What he says is spot on... "Boost should be right on with the CTS it is calculated from the truck. The insight I would hope to have something by spring time."


They will release it when the feel they have all the bug worked out of it.. So do not hold them to the first day of spring...

they look bad I have to get one.

they look bad I have to get one.
They are bad ass man... :) Backup camera is super sweet to!!

Any updates?

Can not wait for the new update... Those backgrounds look cool... :D

so when can I get one for my lly??how much for cts race??

Looking good

Rob, you dont by chance drive a EVO do you?

This is what I heard directly from a guy high up on Edge products food chain.. What he says is spot on... "Boost should be right on with the CTS it is calculated from the truck. The insight I would hope to have something by spring time."


They will release it when the feel they have all the bug worked out of it.. So do not hold them to the first day of spring...

Electronic gauges are notoriously inaccurate on lb7s. Is this because of the gauge itself or because of the truck ecm,etc? Did the accuracy of electronic gauges improve with newer generation trucks?

What about the turbo timer feature anything???

Looking good

Rob, you dont by chance drive a EVO do you?

He had a very fast EVO at one time, it's sold now.

Its Dec 1st, any update on the v2 release?

I was just doing a search trying to figure out the same thing.

nope nothing yet maybe around x-mas time is what im hearing from edge and premier per. so couple more weeks

Whats the V2 gonna have?

LLY/Lb7 support, ability to change background and gauge colors, maybe others?

is there much a differance between the edge race and the cts besides one being touch screen??

well the cts is in standar form and the race version already there are only 3 power levels oth the standard evo cts the cts race evo has i belive 7 power levels an lets you take the dpf out

is there much a differance between the edge race and the cts besides one being touch screen??
The difference between the Evolution Race & the CTS Race is the touch screen, the pretty displays & able to view more displays at once & the option of the backup camera. The tunes are the same & they will have the upgrade software wise both also (some newer features coming soon maybe???) Not sure about the EAS system feature with the race. If you want to save some coin the Evolution Race is still one heck of a tuner...

okay thanx alot i was thinkin about the cts thought maybe few extra horses or mpg but ya helped make the mind thx

What was ever offered to upgrade from the first race with just the digital monitor to one of these new ones?

The difference between the Evolution Race & the CTS Race is the touch screen, the pretty displays & able to view more displays at once & the option of the backup camera. The tunes are the same & they will have the upgrade software wise both also (some newer features coming soon maybe???) Not sure about the EAS system feature with the race. If you want to save some coin the Evolution Race is still one heck of a tuner...

Also, the Evo comes with a pyro probe where the CS and CTS do not. You have to purchase one separately, either the standard or the expandable.

Also, the Evo comes with a pyro probe where the CS and CTS do not. You have to purchase one separately, either the standard or the expandable.
Oh yeah, that is true also.. Thanks.

Any new news on the new version?

Also, the Evo comes with a pyro probe where the CS and CTS do not. You have to purchase one separately, either the standard or the expandable.

what's the difference between the two probes?

Expandable allows for the addition of a turbo timer or fuel pressure sender (to be released at a later date), whereas the std does not.

I see this thread hasnt been updated yet, V2 is out now.

What is the link for the update? What does it do?

V2 allows for 01-09 dmax tuning, and expanded support for other makes, gas or diesel. Also allows for use of Mystyle software, which allows for customization of the background and gauges. I dont think that there was any updates to any of the tunes, but Im not sure on that. www.tuneyourtruck.com for mystyle and fusion update software.

just got the vette loaded onto my background :P


killer update rob.

Thanks RacerX for the updates to the thread ;)

just got the vette loaded onto my background :P


killer update rob.

Did you get those Injectors in? :)

i did, they werent crazy bad. only took me about 5-6 hours. worst part was getting them to pop up out of the tubes. Truck is running great now though.



doing the water pump this weekend.... i should have listened to jacob and just done it while i was doing the injectors. oh well.

Eh, the waterpump isn't bad at all. Did Jacob tell you the trick to getting the balancer bolt out?

hows everyone liking the trans relearn feature?i just tried it out didnt run it for too long though....

Eh, the waterpump isn't bad at all. Did Jacob tell you the trick to getting the balancer bolt out?


yeah he said to bump the starter to loosen it, that what your talking about??? i hope my breaker bar holds up. its only 1/2" drive but has withstood torqueing the vette quite a few times which takes some rediculous torque as well.


The trans relearn feature is freakin awesome so far, very cool new feature.

yea do u have any idea how long it takes it to relearn with the new feature i only ran it around 5 miles when i used the trans relearn feature....

it doesnt take long, i believe it said only 3 "runs through the gears"

i also remember it saying something about having to keep the throttle "linear", in other words just drive around town for a bit and keep the throttle steady instead of all over the place.


The allisons sure a cool transmissions. they are very smart, almost too smart sometimes. I really like the feature when im going down a hill and it downshifts to basically engine brake itself and keep the truck good and controllable.

also man there is a question i have i have 285s on my truck and when i reinstalled the calibration for tires it said my gear ratio is 3.74 is stock 3.73?did it do this automatically to benifit it from having bigger tires or should i change it to 3.73?

I've got 285's also and noted a 3.74 gear ratio on my display. I thought I had changed it by accident, so I changed it back to stock. The trans relearn function does not give you any feedback that it is doing anything or when it is done.

do u think i should also change mine?

Since I installed 2.0 my truck has gone into a no-start mode. I finally got it to return to stock and then reprogrammed. But then, a couple of days later it did the same thing while I was driving the truck. It started freaking out on the DIC with messages like "service four wheel drive", CEL, the glow plug light, "service parking assist", etc. It would not even show me the gear selection nor would my back-up camera go on in reverse. Luckily, this last situation was within a half mile of home. In both these situations it appears the CTS loses communication with the truck. It was very alarming while I was driving because I figured the communication would be data only, but it seemed to be losing the programming altogether??? I plan a call in to Edge first thing on Monday...

really thats strange when u did the trans relearn did service traction control pop up?do u think i should change my gears back to 3.73?

that doesnt make alot of sense, the CTS does not interface/modify the data stream. it simply loads tunes and them monitors through the OBD port. You can actually unplug the unit while your driving and not have any problems. Sounds like it did not successfully load the tune or possibly your having other issues??



i do not work and am not affiliated with edge, im simply giving my "opinion" of the situation based on my understanding and experience with other systems like HP tuners in my vette.

Since I installed 2.0 my truck has gone into a no-start mode. I finally got it to return to stock and then reprogrammed. But then, a couple of days later it did the same thing while I was driving the truck. It started freaking out on the DIC with messages like "service four wheel drive", CEL, the glow plug light, "service parking assist", etc. It would not even show me the gear selection nor would my back-up camera go on in reverse. Luckily, this last situation was within a half mile of home. In both these situations it appears the CTS loses communication with the truck. It was very alarming while I was driving because I figured the communication would be data only, but it seemed to be losing the programming altogether??? I plan a call in to Edge first thing on Monday...

Check the connections on the back of the CTS. Intermittent continuity across the OBDII can cause all kinds of issues.

I think there may be something going on with the cable. Yesterday, after reprogramming for the 4th time due to this problem, I started the engine and the EGT probe wasn't being recognized. So, I pulled the unit out of the pod and that action seemed to cause it to flake out AGAIN. The DIC lit up with messages and the CTS loses communication. I installed the pod at the same time as V2.0 - maybe the cable bend inside the pod is causing a short? However when this issue occured whle driving there was no physical movement like this (that I noted).

i have also had some problems with my EGT probe being recognized every now and then. i believe they are working on another update to resolve the issues. If there is one thing i know, EDGE customer support is awesome and those guys will bust their tails to get everything worked out. With a unit this advanced and flat out awesome i dont have a problem dealing with a few "Quirks" for now.


ive had nothing but good luck with the unit minus the occasional quirk.

I have a CEL now and CTS indicates a DTC of P0700. I have tried clearing this code with the CTS to no avail. Shouldn't I be able to clear it?

P0700 is transmission control module... .usually caused by limp mode from what i remember.


have you tried starting the truck with the CTS disconnected?

it wont erase the code if its a "current" code. you can only erase "history" items. If the truck is registering a problem at that time you cant delete it.



Personally id try disconnecting your battery's, unplug the chip, start the truck, then plug the chip back in and erase codes if its still in there and start fresh. Do you have a higher power level programmed right now or are you on stock settings right now?

How hard has this truck been driven? If that P0700 keeps showing up you may out a C1 and/or C2 IIRC.

Less than 200 miles on the Edge CTS, 22,000 babied miles altogether. Oil changes every 3000-5000 miles. Never noted any "limp mode". I am beginning to believe the cable is the problem, and possibly my changing the Gear Ratio back to stock after the first Trans Relearn functon may have caused the P0700? what is a C1 or C2?

Hey Chad what's the difference between the Edge Evolution Race and the CTS? Do they both shut of the Regen for DPF delete? Can you control the EGR and does both recalibrate the speedometer? Thanks

Hey Chad what's the difference between the Edge Evolution Race and the CTS? Do they both shut of the Regen for DPF delete? Can you control the EGR and does both recalibrate the speedometer? Thanks
The CTS is a prettier box, you can monitor more things at once if you chose that screen & you can plug in a backup camera to it. You will not benifit from the extra features of the EAS system also. Nothing is out yet, but if an when. The tuning is the same.. Both delete the egr & recalibrate the speedometer. You will same some cash with the Race... There is no shame in the Evolution Race. It is still an awesome programmer..

Less than 200 miles on the Edge CTS, 22,000 babied miles altogether. Oil changes every 3000-5000 miles. Never noted any "limp mode". I am beginning to believe the cable is the problem, and possibly my changing the Gear Ratio back to stock after the first Trans Relearn functon may have caused the P0700? what is a C1 or C2?

I doubt you went through a clutch pack yet. C1 and C2 are clutch packs in the Allison.
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What did you change the gear ratio to? I had a small issue with my CTS deciding I had 3.74s after the update, but I changed it back the first time I tuned.

The CTS is a prettier box, you can monitor more things at once if you chose that screen & you can plug in a backup camera to it. You will not benifit from the extra features of the EAS system also. Nothing is out yet, but if an when. The tuning is the same.. Both delete the egr & recalibrate the speedometer. You will same some cash with the Race... There is no shame in the Evolution Race. It is still an awesome programmer..

Sweet Thanks alot for the info.

mine also did this but i was unaware of it till later in the evening i drove with it like that on 3.74 gears for about 20miles....did i do any harm to my truck?i changed it back as soon as i realized it!

mine also did this but i was unaware of it till later in the evening i drove with it like that on 3.74 gears for about 20miles....did i do any harm to my truck?i changed it back as soon as i realized it!

Probably not. When mine did that it also increased tire size in the same increment. Odd, really.

ive noticed that alot of things have been happening with my truck such as the shifting seems to be preety rough even tho i have done the relearn twice already....i hope there is nothing going wrong but have u noticed anything different after update?what level r u running?

ive noticed that alot of things have been happening with my truck such as the shifting seems to be preety rough even tho i have done the relearn twice already....i hope there is nothing going wrong but have u noticed anything different after update?what level r u running?

I run Level 3 all the time. I haven't had any issues other than some basic settings on the custom tuning in the programming setup. My shifts never changed at all. I don't use the Edge relearn, though. I let the Allison do it's thing.

mine just seems a little off i was running lvl 2 before the update and the tranny was well relearned....it seemed to be shifting fine but it seems to be a little rough!but i only have 7900 miles on the truck at this time and find it hard to believe anything is messing up already!

mine just seems a little off i was running lvl 2 before the update and the tranny was well relearned....it seemed to be shifting fine but it seems to be a little rough!but i only have 7900 miles on the truck at this time and find it hard to believe anything is messing up already!

Describe rough please.

I have 21K on mine with 5K on the CTS Race and DPF delete in two and half months.

rough as being like if im driving and the truck wants to downshift from 5th to 4th or 4th to 3rd it seems as if it is shuttering...i guess thats the word im looking for and just completely wacky throughout the gears such as when i want to get on it the truck seems like it doesnt know what to do!its mostly the first symptom i described im more worried about.i know i reloaded a tune and the tranny needs to learn but it never has done this before.

I think I understand what you mean. Yours looks for gears. Does it do this in normal driving, just lugging around? Go get on it for a few minutes, flog the crap out of it and see how it acts.

some under normal driving and then sometimes it seems fine and i cant get it to do this shuttering all the time just every now and again what can i do to get rid of this gear looking?change tune reload?

some under normal driving and then sometimes it seems fine and i cant get it to do this shuttering all the time just every now and again what can i do to get rid of this gear looking?change tune reload?

Factory wheels and tires?

wheels stock but 285's ive had for a few months!

285 shouldn't put you too low in the RPM range. It may be though, just at the right spot to keep the Allison searching.

Are you running a leveling kit?

I am running 285s, CTS Race, DPF delete, and have entered in my tire size. Actually I entered 32.9 inches since it seemed to make the speedo match up perfectly with the GPS speed (285s change the number to 32.7). Sometime after I did a trans relearn, and then had to reprogram to fix a communication error, I saw the Gear Ratio was showing 3.74. I know the Duramax stock is 3.73 so I changed it back to stock (3.73). It was after this that I got the P0700 code. But also, I had a few instances of the CTS losing communication with the ECM and causing all the error messages on the DIC. Not sure which was the cause of my P0700. I ran it today without incidence and the CEL disappeared yesterday afternoon after a successful reprogram to level 2. I wish the CTS would show gear ratio like it shows tire size. The only way to recall the gear ratio is to go through a custome program? I carefully reinstalled the pod and minimized the cable bend. I am still planning on calling Edge tomorrow to figure out if this thing is going to leave me in a no-start situation again...

I hope you get an answer from Edge. Keep us posted.

If you are getting a shudder during acceleration from stop, and have a rear lift, and a 2-piece driveshaft (longbeds usually do) than you might need to lower your carrier bearing. I lowered mine about 1.5" and have no more issues with this shudder. Let me know if you want a pic of this ...

Guys keep in mind the allison is a very very smart, and like i said, almost too smart of a transmission sometimes.. i have noticed mine shifting "funny" just to realize afterwards "oh duh" when i realize that it meant to slow me down or do a funny shift. It will learn based on your driving habits and thats what the main reason for the relearn is.


What i usually do is do a manual relearn, throw it in tow, and rail on it for a few miles. Once it seems like its doing the same things every time i throw it back in standard mode and drive nice and easy with very gradual throttle changes and such so that it learns to shift very nice and easy for normal driving.


When i talked to Buck i believe i remember him saying the trans control module will store 2 different "tunes" for the transmission. One for tow mode and one for standard. Therefor if you always hammer on it in tow mode (like your supposed to anyways) your standard mode will always be nice and easy.


also, the gear ratio of 3.74 will not harm anything. All it does is updates your factory calibration so that the factory speedo/odometer is accurate. technically you could throw in a massive high gear ratio and keep the mileage down on your truck (granted this is HIGHLY illegal and i would never suggest doing it) Just explaining how it works. Its basically no different than your tire size input.

im guessing the reason its changing to 3.74 is just simply due to rounding to an even number due to tire sizes going from metric to inches and not wanting decimals. To calc it its probably changing the gear ratio slightly so that the tire size stays "appealing" to the user.



just my guess though, like i said im not "affiliated" with EDGE.

I don't think the Gear Ratio is tied to the tire size since I changed the tire size and the gear ratio is still showing as stock. The first time I did trans relearn was the first time I noted the gear ratio change (to 3.74). However I did the trans relearn again recently and it was not changed.

I just called Edge and it said they were on Holiday still? Anyone know when they reopen?

just texted buck.


he said they are closed till the 4th but there will be a few tech's in the office to answer phone calls.

On page 22 of the online CTS manual, there is a "View Camera" option showing on the main menu. According to the manual, if you have a camera connected, this option will let you view it when you select this option.

My camera image comes on when I am in reverse, but this "view camera" option is not availble on my main menu. Does anybody have this option on their unit?

On page 22 of the online CTS manual, there is a "View Camera" option showing on the main menu. According to the manual, if you have a camera connected, this option will let you view it when you select this option.

My camera image comes on when I am in reverse, but this "view camera" option is not availble on my main menu. Does anybody have this option on their unit?
I do have it on my unit. The view camera is the first thing on the screen. I am still running the testing version of it however. I will load the new one on my truck tonight & let you know. What shows up on your main menu then? Did you try to set it back to stock & reload it again?

Here's what I think is going on with my camera (no 'View Camera" option in main menu).

My camera is rigged to power up only when I put the truck in reverse. From what I could extract from the Edge Tech Support, the camera must be powered on when the CTS starts up, to cause the menu to show "View Camera" option in the menu. While my camera DOES come on (in the CTS) when I put it in reverse, there is no "View Camera" option in the main menu. Because of the way mine is rigged, the "View Camera" option will not work anyway (because my camera power only comes on in reverse).

However, I am thinking about adding a separate camera for the CTS (my current camera displays on my Kenwood DNX7100 AND the CTS). I would like a camera on my truck camper. I can make this new camera power up at start-up. BUT, do you really want the camera powered on ALL THE TIME (while the truck is running). Seems like a lot of wear on the camera components. QUESTION IS - if I put a switch on the camera, and try to remember to have it ON when I start the truck/CTS will that update my menu to have the "view Camera" option on the main menu? even if I switch the camera off later, during driving? I realize I would have to flip the switch to ON AND go to the "View Camera" option but thats fine.

I REALLY WISH Edge would have just made the "view camera" option a manual switch inside the unit to direct the display to the RCA input instead of trying to "sense" the input to decide whether or not to update the menu. Seams reasonable.

Does the camera just plug and play? Or is there other wiring that needs to be done?

You are correct in your analysis. I'm fairly certain if you look in the CTS manual that I read you have to run a 12V power supply from your fuse box under (Edge even gives you a brass tab to install in a particular fuse to do this) the hood directly to the camera and as soon as you turn the key on you are powering up the camera and therefore will have the "view camera" option show up in the menu. That's the way I installed mine and I have the "view camera"option in my menu.


Here's what I think is going on with my camera (no 'View Camera" option in main menu).

My camera is rigged to power up only when I put the truck in reverse. From what I could extract from the Edge Tech Support, the camera must be powered on when the CTS starts up, to cause the menu to show "View Camera" option in the menu. While my camera DOES come on (in the CTS) when I put it in reverse, there is no "View Camera" option in the main menu. Because of the way mine is rigged, the "View Camera" option will not work anyway (because my camera power only comes on in reverse).

However, I am thinking about adding a separate camera for the CTS (my current camera displays on my Kenwood DNX7100 AND the CTS). I would like a camera on my truck camper. I can make this new camera power up at start-up. BUT, do you really want the camera powered on ALL THE TIME (while the truck is running). Seems like a lot of wear on the camera components. QUESTION IS - if I put a switch on the camera, and try to remember to have it ON when I start the truck/CTS will that update my menu to have the "view Camera" option on the main menu? even if I switch the camera off later, during driving? I realize I would have to flip the switch to ON AND go to the "View Camera" option but thats fine.

I REALLY WISH Edge would have just made the "view camera" option a manual switch inside the unit to direct the display to the RCA input instead of trying to "sense" the input to decide whether or not to update the menu. Seams reasonable.

Does the camera just plug and play? Or is there other wiring that needs to be done?

The camera just plugs into the CTS with a video RCA, then there is two wires you need to connect. Your camera you can wire to be on all the time so you will have the view camera option on your CTS whenever, or wire the camera to be on only in reverse so it will come on only in reverse.

The camera just plugs into the CTS with a video RCA, then there is two wires you need to connect. Your camera you can wire to be on all the time so you will have the view camera option on your CTS whenever, or wire the camera to be on only in reverse so it will come on only in reverse.

12 Volt switched and ground?

thanks for the help.

So you are not using the Edge camera then? I think their camera is the way to go. You can just unlook your camera from the back of the truck & put the camera on the back bumber of the trailer like I do if it is metal. The camera has a built in magnet. You can make a longer cable if you need it to work. My cts comes on, camera comes on it I put it in reverse or push the view camera on my unit...