Hello,
i have a 6.5 n/a and someone just gave me 150 gallons of kerosene from his old heating furnace and it does not have the red dye in it like the #2 heating oil does, so i could get away with running it in my truck if i wanted to.
Does anyone know if it is safe to run a blend of kerosene/diesel in one of these engines? If so, should some kind of additive be put in it?
thanks,
Paul

I was wondering a similiar thing when I ran into this article:

http://www.flashoffroad.com/Diesel/DieselFuel/about_diesel_fuel.htm

I don't know if it will help you, but it's an interesting read.

PS. the site opens pretty slow, but it does open

Kero and & #1 very simular, I would consider adding about 30% to number 2 and then use a good additive like Power Service or stanadyne and then add about 2-4 oz of 2 cyle oil in a tank. You will loose a bit MPG as not as many BTU/ gallon but the price is right.

I'd blend it in 20% at a time and use a pump lubricating additive for sure

I use the red stuff in my truck and it runs great. Just use some conditioner to keep the system clean. I also get better MPG with the rest stuff compared to the green diesel.

I use the red stuff in my truck and it runs great. Just use some conditioner to keep the system clean. I also get better MPG with the rest stuff compared to the green diesel.

I think the better mileage 'may' be just in your head.
I have talked to a few chemical plant engineers, and others in the fuel business. And everyone of them has said the fuel is identical, except for the dye.
I hear these guys around here all the time saying 'my truck runs better, gets better mileage,pulls better, etc' running red fuel.
i think it is bull personally.

Have to agree with blalley, bro-n-law works in the palnts in Texas City, TX and said the same thing. Same diesel just different color. I get about 18mpg with reg and 18mpg with the red. the only thing i know is different about the 2 is the PRICE!!! $2.09 - $2.15 a gallon here (around Pasadena, TX).

I am running half JET-A (pumpback from aircraft mechanics) and half Chevron #2 treated with Powerservice silver and 2 oz. 2 stroke oil per 10 gallons of JET-A.

EGT is a little lower (~100 Deg F), power is the same, mileage is maybe 1 MPG lower.

$2.44/gallon diesel instantly 50% off :ro)

20% kerosene and diesel and you'll be ok. Jet fuel and diesel and you 'll be seeing a fuel injection shop in the future. Just not enough lubrication, becareful.

#2 diesel(winter) and heating oil are the same thing.Kerosene is mostly used in portable heaters and lamps.

the red dye is #2 offroad, jet-a and kerosene are clear, fear dye could cause flameout or kill people using for heating. jet-a and kero will clean your system, picks up residual parafins that build up in fuel lines. have used in boats and generators, normally consider injector service reduced sometimes upto 50%, blended should extend this.

What color is this stuff you've been given? Not really COMMON that people burn kero instead of #2, certainly but possible. Especially with the price of fuel now.

A lot of truck stops I saw in the New England are sell straight up Kerosene next to the Diesel pump, and they even admitted to mixing Kerosene for a 'winter blend'.
50/50 or even straight with additive won't hurt a thing. And burning free fuel, who cares if you lose 1 MPG?

No problem with JP or Kero blkends, In USN we ran ALL of our small Diesel boat engines on JP-5 only, the only problem was Marine growth, use a additive that adds lubricity & biocide. I would blend rather than as solo fuel although most military Diesel powered vehicles are multi fuel; one of which is JP. Biggest draw back for us to blend is dyes and cost, most Kero has dye in it, and JP is very high in cost by comparison, if you can find an inexpensive source of JP or non dyed kero run it blended with additive , ANY fuel you put in your truck should have additive in in IMO.

When I used to be the ships fuel & oil Czar other than flash point, water & solids content tests no difference between the 2 fuels nor any restrictions limiting what engines to use it in except no Diesel for aircraft engines, at altitude it ices/gels where JP won't

JP-5 btw is a kero/diesel derivative USN is starting to migrate back to JP only, despite cost. USN is finding in long run is better for maintenance life cycles as JP is a cleaner fuel than Diesel.

I think the better mileage 'may' be just in your head.
I have talked to a few chemical plant engineers, and others in the fuel business. And everyone of them has said the fuel is identical, except for the dye.
I hear these guys around here all the time saying 'my truck runs better, gets better mileage,pulls better, etc' running red fuel.
i think it is bull personally.
If the red diesel is so identical to the other stuff then why wouldnt everyone be running the red stuff in their trucks, after all its cheaper?
Maybe you should try it out yourself and see what happens, before you start making these comments about everyone!:blahblah:

"Red" fuel has no road tax on it. Get caught with it in your tank on the road and it will cost you a steep fine. Same with kerosene.

??? Farm fuel is off highway non taxable use only, but I've never heard of any limitations on use of kerosene, unless it were dyed and considered farm fuel.

Any fuel you burn on the highway requires that Uncle Sam gets his share in "road taxes". Even if you blend your own fuel. Seems they want the money. I have one customer who uses two Mack trucks to haul corn from the silo to the chicken coops. These trucks never go on the road. The DOT came on their premises and told them they could be in violation of using non-taxed fuel. Seems the trucks still had tags on them and they "could" be driven on the road. They promptly removed the tags from the vehicles and had to declare them as farm equipment to avoid fines. The tax can be prorated also by the government as they can estimate how many miles and or dollars you have avoided in taxes.

Funny i thought all Canadian fuel was dyed purple for off road/farm use?

With Canadian Farm Fuel the dye does seem to have a tendency to stain the whole inside of the pump a deep reddish purple, so there's no mistaking someone who's been using it.

US Farm fuel is red red, not purple and doesn't stain, and I would assume less risk of filming the Optic sensor lenses.

Savings vs. Risk factor is completely one sided, you may save a few bucks, but if you get caught you'll be paying big time.

thanks for the replies on this one.
the stuff i got has no dye in it, so there is no way i could get caught.
i really don't know for sure it is kerosene but it sure seems like it - i think it is just older fuel in the tank since before they started adding dye to kerosene.
strange how many different opinions i have got - i called one fuel oil company and they said i could mix it 50/50 with diesel in my tractor (i didn't tell them about my truck so as not to arouse suspicion) but then another fuel oil place said no way, don't put any in the tractor it will make it run to hot and burn up the valves.
probably i will just blend small amounts in with my truck and perhaps blend some vegoil or biodiesel in with it.
thanks again,
Paul

kerosene will definitely NOT make any diesel engine run hotter.
No Parrafins, lower cetane, no aeromatics = less heat.
Less lubricity means you need fuel conditioner, preferrably one with cetane improver.

50/50{#2 diesel} mix Standine performance formula dubble the Standine.