I'm not going to be adding a boatload more power, but will be adding EFI or Banks. I know, I know, I'm still thinking!

Anyway, If I go with EFI for towing and mileage, will the trasgo kit add any durability to my transmission? I can't afford a full on Suncast Stage IV build this year.

Man, all of this stuff is getting to be too much for my fixed income!

THANKS!
Mark

Well a transgo will help some if no damage has been done yet. If clutches already glazed then not much help. I would still not go over 100HP with and tune on stock Allison unless you can keep WOT out of the higher gears and shift points. If you really want to add power then go ahead but plan on a transmission rebuild sooner than later. Lets say I have put 25,000 miles on mine in the 100HP roughly. Was pretty easy but it is due for a rebuild now. Can't afford then dont over do it at all. I say keep 65HP or lower for you. Still watch WOT on the upper gears.

Brian

You may look into a co-pilot. I know nothing about them. I don't think you can do a trans go and co-pilot at the same time.
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=319585&highlight=pilot

Brian

Your throwing money away if your going to do a stage 4 kit with that little power. Do a stage 3 kit and a HD single disc converter which will handle about 450 rwhp and save some money. Even a triple disc converter with the stage 3 kit will get you to about 600 rwhp if built right. A stage 4 kit with triple disc converter will hold 800+ rwhp if built right. You don't need that if your running 100-120 hp over stock that puts you at approx 420 hp. Don't spend more $ than you have to unless you plan to use it by adding more HP.

If you are doing a SC install later no reason to do the transgo now. Save that money and you will have it for your install.

i have the 6gun since 40,000, dynoed the truck at 462/930 (but very rarely get on it)
Just added the transgo at 175,000 ish miles.
dont really notice a lot different feel, but MikeL and many others say it does increase hold power towing and life expectancy.


for $100 for the LBZ kit I probably should have done it a long time ago

just curious, not trying to be a jerk.
still looking at options for another trans, buy a transgo, or something else.
but i have to ask dritbikeindad, would that be a
'umm, i dont know if they work, hold up, or what power level they can hold long term'

I stopped at Suncoast yesterday, checked prices and basicaly asked about the Trans Go Jr. and or the same question. The opinion i got was unless I changed the converter out the trans go will shorten the stock tourque converter's life do to increased line pressure. It would be best to change converter out also to a triple disc.

I plan to do that or go with a one of their complete builds

just curious, not trying to be a jerk.
still looking at options for another trans, buy a transgo, or something else.
but i have to ask dritbikeindad, would that be a
'umm, i dont know if they work, hold up, or what power level they can hold long term'

No it means I will not dignify Mike L's comments with an answer because he wants to start another bash me session with his comments.

Funny thing is in my post I never mentioned brands of kits made a sales pitch for any kits I just offered information to the OP that running a stage SC 4 kit would be spending more money that he needed to spend for the low hp he is running. I offered other options not mentioning any kits because the OP mentioned he wanted a SC and I feel for his needs he could get a SC stage 3 kit and a SC triple disc converter or even a Mike L converter from Precision Industries on the upper level and a single disc HD RV converter on the lower level, and save some money. For that I get the snide comments from Mike L. because he is once again trying start an agument with me and I won't stoop to his level. The OP stated he wanted SC seems to me Mike could stand to benefit from the OP if he wanted to buy SC from Mike. Just an observation!

well, now someone has asked about yours and you are avoiding giving any answers.

Thanks for your time, I'll keep looking elsewhere

Well a transgo will help some if no damage has been done yet. If clutches already glazed then not much help. I would still not go over 100HP with and tune on stock Allison unless you can keep WOT out of the higher gears and shift points. If you really want to add power then go ahead but plan on a transmission rebuild sooner than later. Lets say I have put 25,000 miles on mine in the 100HP roughly. Was pretty easy but it is due for a rebuild now. Can't afford then dont over do it at all. I say keep 65HP or lower for you. Still watch WOT on the upper gears.

Brian

I have never limped it. It feels just like new. I tend to drive like an old lady. Even when I do get on it, I let up after it shifts to 4th. I have installed shift kits before on TH350 tranny's, so hopefully I could do the Transgo or similar kit myself. So, if it would help for a while, I will. But, if not, I won't.

Mark

Your throwing money away if your going to do a stage 4 kit with that little power. Do a stage 3 kit and a HD single disc converter which will handle about 450 rwhp and save some money. Even a triple disc converter with the stage 3 kit will get you to about 600 rwhp if built right. A stage 4 kit with triple disc converter will hold 800+ rwhp if built right. You don't need that if your running 100-120 hp over stock that puts you at approx 420 hp. Don't spend more $ than you have to unless you plan to use it by adding more HP.

I try to think ahead. I know that I am the type that usually searches for more power, and if I have EFI I will be able to do that. I just figured with that in mind, maybe next year, if I am gettig it done, I might as well go whole hog just is case I go overboard.:D

Mark

just curious, not trying to be a jerk.
still looking at options for another trans, buy a transgo, or something else.
but i have to ask dritbikeindad, would that be a
'umm, i dont know if they work, hold up, or what power level they can hold long term'

I know they work and now so do the folks that I have sold to as well as the folks that Tyler Meyer MPF, who carries the same kits, has sold to. You use the same installer and have him build two transmissions side by side using the kit I carry in one and the SC kit in the other. Use the same brand TC which ever brand you want, lets say its a ML conveter from Precision Induistries. You can expect both transmissions to last the same amount of time under the same use level because the kits have identical parts in them and if built by the same builder with the same builder tricks to each trans, you shouldn't expect anything different from either trans as far as life expectancy or performance.

Would the increase in line pressure really cause a stock converter to fail? Sounds like hogg wash to me. I'd say in anything a TransGoJr. would give guys more confidence in the holding power of their trans, resulting in finding another weak link...stock converter.

Am I missing something, there seems to be a missing post by lotsofmiles ... ???

Would the increase in line pressure really cause a stock converter to fail? Sounds like hogg wash to me. I'd say in anything a TransGoJr. would give guys more confidence in the holding power of their trans, resulting in finding another weak link...stock converter.

Am I missing something, there seems to be a missing post by lotsofmiles ... ???

The increase in line pressure will not make your converter fail prematurely and neither will it hurt the trans in any way. It will actually increase the life of the Alli. If you push too much hp through your converter it will fail, but not because you ran extra pressure through it.
I no longer sell kits until my own kit is ready. This is coming soon. Testing will start in the next few weeks. We have gone beyond what the Alto Red Eagles can hold. Seems a lot of us have seen delamination with the Alto's and their big kit was made for the 6 speed only with C4 needing modification before it will work. It was done wrong. To me it looks like they tried to copy the SC 4 kit and screwed it up. Be very carefull what you buy guys. You saved up big time for this and you want to do it right.
Buy the kit from someome that will personaly walk you through the build and be there when the fit hits the shan.
Since at this time I am not selling kits, I have no dog in this fight. I do care though. Do what you want.:D

Buy the kit from someome that will personaly walk you through the build and be there when the fit hits the shan.
Since at this time I am not selling kits, I have no dog in this fight. I do care though. Do what you want.:D

What about the Transgo or similar? Since it does not involve taking down the tranny and taking it apart, is it something I could do on my own? Does it involve special tools? I fixed fighter aircraft for 20 years, so I am pretty good with my hands and directions (job guide). I will always let a professional do a build though.

Mark

What about the Transgo or similar? Since it does not involve taking down the tranny and taking it apart, is it something I could do on my own? Does it involve special tools? I fixed fighter aircraft for 20 years, so I am pretty good with my hands and directions (job guide). I will always let a professional do a build though.

Mark


your thinking of the transgo jr kit i believe. The transgo kit you do have to drop the tranny to put it in place.

IMO if you are getting EFI live get the level 4, build it up right the first time. You won't be satisfied with low levels of tuning especially with the wide capabilities of EFI live. Spend the money now to save the money later if that makes any sense.

Well now I have 3 opinions on the Transgo. 1 from Allison:
Q. Aftermarket Torque Converters and Valve Bodies - What benefits do they have?
A. There are a variety of aftermarket kits and components available that claim significant benefits when installed on the Allison transmission in pickup trucks. Allison does not endorse or recommend any of these components. Allison has tested one company's 'high performance' valve body, which claims to increase clutch capacity. Allison Engineering determined that this valve body provided none of the advertised benefits. ( http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/faq/index.jsp?CategoryID=11#93 )
1 from Mike. , and 1 from Suncoast ( the person behind the desk said ): "unless I change torque converter to a billet, the stock one would suffer from premature wear with Transgo."

I am totally confused..

The allison website won't give you the info, you will need to talk to a trans shop that deals in allison repairs. Suncoast is the preferred product around here, ATS has been hit or miss apparently honestly I have never ran those products so first hand I couldn't tell you on that front this is only from reading various threads. But if you are going to run big power, that torque converter should be replaced with a quality aftermarket unit.

What do most shops charge to install a transgo jr?

Well now I have 3 opinions on the Transgo. 1 from Allison:
Q. Aftermarket Torque Converters and Valve Bodies - What benefits do they have?
A. There are a variety of aftermarket kits and components available that claim significant benefits when installed on the Allison transmission in pickup trucks. Allison does not endorse or recommend any of these components. Allison has tested one company's 'high performance' valve body, which claims to increase clutch capacity. Allison Engineering determined that this valve body provided none of the advertised benefits. ( http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/faq/index.jsp?CategoryID=11#93 )
1 from Mike. , and 1 from Suncoast ( the person behind the desk said ): "unless I change torque converter to a billet, the stock one would suffer from premature wear with Transgo."

I am totally confused..

You are going to have to believe someone. Good luck.:D

Well now I have 3 opinions on the Transgo. 1 from Allison:
Q. Aftermarket Torque Converters and Valve Bodies - What benefits do they have?
A. There are a variety of aftermarket kits and components available that claim significant benefits when installed on the Allison transmission in pickup trucks. Allison does not endorse or recommend any of these components. Allison has tested one company's 'high performance' valve body, which claims to increase clutch capacity. Allison Engineering determined that this valve body provided none of the advertised benefits. ( http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/faq/index.jsp?CategoryID=11#93 )
1 from Mike. , and 1 from Suncoast ( the person behind the desk said ): "unless I change torque converter to a billet, the stock one would suffer from premature wear with Transgo."

I am totally confused..


Don't be confused. Just talk to Mike and what he says, you can believe.

I have decided NOT to install Transgo Jr. Keep Dmax Allison tranny stock. When the Allison goes KAPUT, load the DMAX on a trailer and tow it to Californa to Mike and have him rebuild it. Towing the DMAX with my FORD which will probably have 800,000 mi on it by then.

So I am no longer confused. when in doubt, do nothing

Alright I have tha full transgo for my truck but I want to just install tha trim valves and stuff right now, I'm gonna tell a difference?? I'm gonna install tha full kit later but I'm waitin till I do a full rebuild.

I mean I reckon my trans is in good shape. 80K, no towin, never had a tune of any kind on it, fluid and filter changed at 50k. Shifts fine every time and never getsa hot. Don;t drag or pull it just drive it.

I'm wantin to change tha filters again, add amsoi,l and since I have tha kit I figured I'd go on put tha JR part in with a modified converter valve from suncoast and run a predator on 80hp. That should hold right???

I installed a jr. kit, deep pan, and synthetic in my 02 a while back and did make a difference. I had limped it once prior to installing and after installing with the same tune I couldnt get it to limp. I believe the tune was a level 3 or 4 ppe.

Well now I have 3 opinions on the Transgo. 1 from Allison:
Q. Aftermarket Torque Converters and Valve Bodies - What benefits do they have?
A. There are a variety of aftermarket kits and components available that claim significant benefits when installed on the Allison transmission in pickup trucks. Allison does not endorse or recommend any of these components. Allison has tested one company's 'high performance' valve body, which claims to increase clutch capacity. Allison Engineering determined that this valve body provided none of the advertised benefits. ( http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/faq/index.jsp?CategoryID=11#93 )
1 from Mike. , and 1 from Suncoast ( the person behind the desk said ): "unless I change torque converter to a billet, the stock one would suffer from premature wear with Transgo."

I am totally confused..

They tested a valve body at Allison YES and it was not or had anything to do with Trans go parts. I know I was there. All the company did was block a passage and it did not do anything. That statement is correct.

Mike stated it very well "if your going to do the transmission buy your parts and talk to someone that can help you if the fin hits the sham" :D