This guy did his truck as a memorial to the Sept. 11th victims..
Kinda neat, I think.:)

That is incredable. A very cool thing to do.

Wow!!!!!! that's amazing thanks for sharing that.

Yes, thanks for sharing that!

It is nice for a change to have the crew member names of those flights in bold letters. All the focus was on the fire and police departments. No one focused on the crew members. They used our office as a weapon of mass distruction. We are(was payed to take-off and land safely, not to fly them into building. And then on the 14th of September show back-up to fly with no security place. I will never forget standing on the security lines and seeing our Flight Attendents in tears from fear(I was flying the 757/767 when it happened). But America never saw that.

Sept 11, 2001 will always be remembered in my family.

Thanks again for sharing this!
Rick

Yes, thanks for sharing that!

It is nice for a change to have the crew member names of those flights in bold letters. All the focus was on the fire and police departments. No one focused on the crew members. They used our office as a weapon of mass distruction. We are(was payed to take-off and land safely, not to fly them into building. And then on the 14th of September show back-up to fly with no security place. I will never forget standing on the security lines and seeing our Flight Attendents in tears from fear(I was flying the 757/767 when it happened). But America never saw that.

Sept 11, 2001 will always be remembered in my family.

Thanks again for sharing this!
Rick

Gee Rick, I knew you'd like it because of the semi-truck link, but I forgot about your ties with the aviation industry as well :o: Glad you enjoyed it!
I used to work for freightliner, so I thought it was pretty cool to see a truck done up that way.

A very "moving" tribute to everyone that lost their lives....

Great post Partsguy.....great post.

That is very cool, thanks for posting this. Nice memorial to those lost.

Saweet.

Very cool. I like the way the hood folds up and makes a pic with the top of the truck. Do you mind if I save those pics on my computer and share them with another chevy site?

William

There is a web site for those pictures. Its a husband and wife team who did this. I posted it in the off topic on 05/05/05.
www.therollingmemorial.com (http://www.therollingmemorial.com)

good post Scott

There is a web site for those pictures. Its a husband and wife team who did this. I posted it in the off topic on 05/05/05.
www.therollingmemorial.com (http://www.therollingmemorial.com)

It would be impressive if they ran the thing off biodiesel.........

Nothing quite like a rolling memorial for 9-11 powered by the fuel that sends $$ into the pockets of the people that funded 9-11............................

(Sorry, yes I know......to much thinking again) :eek:

It would be impressive if they ran the thing off biodiesel.........

Nothing quite like a rolling memorial for 9-11 powered by the fuel that sends $$ into the pockets of the people that funded 9-11............................

(Sorry, yes I know......to much thinking again) :eek:

Do you think before you post? Maybe you should.

Do you think before you post? Maybe you should.

Woo someone agrees with me!

:Handshake

Very impressive. NoWake what did you do for TWA?

homepukes, I was a pilot for them. In 2001 I was flying the 767/757 for them, the same airplane that was used.

Do you think before you post? Maybe you should.

My problem is I think too much, and forget to sugarcoat it for you all........

It would be impressive if they ran the thing off biodiesel.........

Nothing quite like a rolling memorial for 9-11 powered by the fuel that sends $$ into the pockets of the people that funded 9-11............................

(Sorry, yes I know......to much thinking again) :eek:

My problem is I think too much, and forget to sugarcoat it for you all........

I wanted to make sure I address both of these.
Look manny, if you must look for a darkside of everything, that's your decision. However, in this case I feel you're out of line. This is a rolling memorial dedicated to the people that lost their lives in the 9/11 disaster. As a painter, I have a pretty good idea about the amount of time and $$ spent making this vehicle look as stunning as it does.
I'd love to know why you think you are better than the rest of us here. The term "sugarcoating" seems to point to you thinking that you are somehow superior to the rest of us. How so?

Well Partsguy, let me tell you.

#1, the first post was poor taste to some degree. I pry shouldnt have done it, but I do have a "no post editing" rule (uhhhh except for this one). I notice that no one is willing to tell me that the point I made was fundamentally flawed in someway or another.............

So you see, I now see that it pry wasnt the best idea to put it in here.

Now as for sugarcoating.........I dont see how that indicates how I think I am above anyone else here. (I know about other posts, and thats just what I do to certain members who piss me off for the fun of it)

We all sugarcoat things, and some (I) need to do it more than others........Ive got an honesty problem, Im brutally honest.

So yes, it is a nice memorial. What I said was true, just poorly placed........

I realize that the source of fuel is a tender area for some folks. And I see why.

So I will appologize to anyone that was offended by the remark, but I stand by it until someone tells me where I was wrong.

More hints of punitive liberalism manny?

I don't think you are as honest as you claim to be. You should know that you cannot fully assert that the fuel used by that truck came from Saudi or any other ME or OPEC country for that matter. You [/I]should[I] know that there are countless other crude derivatives that we use everyday---things that have become more of a necessity than a simple luxury. Tell us where that plastic computer came from, from where you continue to hurl your barbs. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

So many of the things you say sound soooo familiar because I am all too familiar with what they are saying over at moveon.org and democraticunderground.com...and so many other neurotic Angry Left blogs.....hmmmm....

More and more (or is that Moore?) you sound like Arianna Huffington. You DO know who that is don't you?

Your flaw is that you live in a glass house--your hypocrisy is transparent. You strive to run bio-blends and drive economical cars. That is commendable and yet we all draw from the same tank. So you for your part you fund the terrorists only a little. That's rich...

Tasteless and flawed...AND you know it...honest indeed...

Good points Trex. Tasteless, probably, but flawed? Maybe not so much.

Naturally, there is little anyone can do to stop all oil uses all together, but I am making an effort. Lip service is one thing indeed, but I think I should deserve some credit. You know how many flag wavers there are that are just fishing? People that sign up and pick up the flag just to be part of a group. You want to know how many flags I ever saw before 9-11? Not many. Convienient patriotism. (I am not pointing fingers at all, just generalities.) The point is that Im putting my $$ where my mouth is, and that is more than I can say for a lot of other folks. I am painfully aware of my "hipocracy" but I am at least aware, and attempting to do something about it.

Realistically, my teenie 300g of the biodiesel used in a few months dosent matter at all. But principally speaking, there is a difference. I know that one persons oil use is nil compared to the totals, but we are talking principle here. Surely something you as a conservative know about full and well. So yes, we do all draw from the same tank, but I take as little as I possibly can. There is a difference.

I know that I tend to get militant/angry when it comes to alternative fuels. It is just a very simple thing to use, yet it seems that very few are interested. Lazy, uninformed, indifferent, whatever. Pains me to see something like this where people could at least have a chance to be in on something that just might someday make a difference for this country, but they just let it pass right on by.

As for your mention of the liberal sites........I have never been to any of them. The only forums I belong to have to do with mechanical items.

OK, you lean to the Left and you are welcome to it. It should come as no surprise to me that you formulate your own opinions--like those found on Lefty sites--on your own accord, without using such sites as a crutch. You are genuine in that regard.

I am angry too---angry about 9/11...remembering the awfulness and carnage of that day--horrible images. It's not just the outrage that it happened on our soil, but the senseless death of thousands of innocent people, regardless of creed or nationality. I'm outraged that it happened and I'm outraged by THEIR methods. AND I despise the line of thinking, "that we had it coming," or some nonsense like that, as if it washes the blood from the hands of the real perps.

And so, manny, we can agree that using the tragic events of 9/11 to promote our particular socio-political agendas is disgusting. Can we? Right! You know what they say, one oh sh!t wipes out all those atta-boys. You do well to do your part, but when you come on to a Right leaning message board hurling hand grenades....well there you go---oh sh!t and there goes your credibility. Think of how reactionary some of the folks here who lean further to the Right are to not only what you say, but to you as a person. Perhaps you can make a difference in more ways than you imagine. I submit that one of the problems with the Left is their one-dimensional thinking... Think about it.

We may disagree, but we are in the same boat as countrymen. I think every word we say should be precise and meaningful. It's counter productive wherever we may be to let emotion cloud our judgments. I struggle with my demons too---like being humble and gentle. For my part, I apologize.

You're probably not going to do much to promote your ideas on conservation if you continue down the path that so many others of you ilk have. ...catch my drift?

Anyway, as painful as the memories of 9/11 are I think the rolling memorial is necessary. My heart aches for those who lost loved ones. Perhaps we should stand in honor of those who perished that day; remove our hats and remain silent out of respect for the dead and their families; and consider the memorial as a reminder of our mortality and use the moment as a time to pray if one is so inclined or a time to take a little personal inventory.
Perhaps consider my signature...

You're probably not going to do much to promote your ideas on conservation if you continue down the path that so many others of you ilk have. ...catch my drift?

Man, youre going to have to elaborate on that one there............because I dont catch your drift at alllllllll

..should have been "...your ilk..." My bad--typo... Promoting your ideas on conservation, like using bio-diesel to get off foreign oil, using the truck as a truck and so on. You are helpful in the Bio-diesel forum. You can fail to be helpful by p!ssing people off, especially in a hot button thread such as this. What's worse is you can undo what good work you have done. Besides it causes discord.

It's like this--everything is painfully political these days--the Dems lost the presidency for a couple of reasons, two of which were not small contributors to their defeat. (1)And simply put JFK was a pathetic candidate. Man to man his weakness played right into Ws hand. (2)What I'm getting at here...is the political Left seems to not have a clue..even still..that more than half of the people in this country cannot and do not want to relate to their angry neuroticism.

And sometimes, my friend, your posts are dripping with such frustration and other times, intentional or not, you demonstrate cognitive dissonance. As good as your ideas are regarding getting off of oil for instance and pure as you believe your motives may be, it is human nature to look at who is saying it. And there, since we are a culture that truly does not want to change--we love our SUVs, our gluttony, our laziness, where even Right leaning people see easy to come & inexpensive fuel as an entitlement...follow me...it's not taken as brutal honesty as you say it, but more like accusing others of having a dirty little secret. Well, inside they know it. Intelligent people know when they are urinating in their IV bags, but it's not constructive to rub their nose in it. You can't shame people into making rights choices. So instead you alienate yourself from the majority of society. You are rejected, you and your ilk lose the election and instead of being truly progressive and constructive you relegate yourself to a position of hurtful critic, even standing in the way of getting things done. You sideline yourself and are left impotent.

Speaking in broad terms, as this applies to all of us, your actions hurt your cause no matter how noble it maybe, not matter how good the idea may be.

You got an idea? You've got to articulate it and you've got to relate to audience...perhaps even condescending; without veiled insults. You've got to sell yourself and the idea. This can be done without compromising your integrity.

That is IF you are fully willing to do your part as small as it may be... Putting even YOURself aside--your anger, your pride, etcetera. The whole is a great big sum of parts. Yes?

Don't give in to the Dark Side, manny! Clear as mud?

Trex, I fully understand your imput. Makes fine sense, and makes even finer sense on my part to implement your suggestions.......But you may be incorrect as for some assumptions.....Mainly when it comes to the causes my unhappiness, or so it may seem.....

I am not upset that Kerry did not win (I abstained from voting, btw). IMO the election was a choice between crap and crap. Either would have found a unique way to screw the country. So I may be bitter, but it has little to do with Bush or Kerry individually. I am bitter that weve got to make a choice between these two morons. Silly, unrealistic, I know, but thats it. Additionally, I understand how this may be misconstrued as malice towards one side or another, but the truth is that I would have b!tched the same (maybe more) if the other guy got in.

So while it is the easy thing/cop out to holler "LIBERAL" at me, it is not as true as you may think......

All of this good stuff from a semitruck........

(I would also like to add that it has been a pleasure to discuss this matter with you in the manner that we have.)

Understood...

My intent is not to offend.

I was not too enthused with our choices either. BUT whoever would have won back in 2000 would have had one helluva mess on his hands. It's difficult for me to judge W as a moron.

I understand why you infer that I am using the "L" word to label you. I probably would not like it either if I did not believe that I was one. Surely as evidenced from your posts you lean more to the Left. But again for my part I apologize.

I've got thick skin and sometimes I see such labels as helpful as they are hurtful--just to air it out. Rarely am I accused of being sensitive.

Indeed all of this about a semi...

I suppose the reason I'm even taking the time to write here is because I am probably just as concerned about our future as you. It is my hope that I can make an impact...if only with my words. Like I said we are in the same boat. Come to think of it what really disgusts me--probably why I am reaching out to one who I consider less conservative than I--is that I despise partisan politics. I feel an open dialogue is the first step is taking care of business.

We hire politician to do a job with our votes. Truth be told I'd fire most of them, but instead we can only vote them out of office. So in MY frustration I find myself voting against the other guy more so than actually voting for his opponent.

It is good for men to discuss these things in a mature manner. Yes? Anyway I think I've about whipped this dead horse!

T-Rex, I'm with you 100%... but I really don't think you have hit Manny at his level, yet. Please, keep going.

Man, youre going to have to elaborate on that one there............because I dont catch your drift at alllllllll

My interpretation:

Don't give a speech to would be followers while p!ssing on the crowd...

I would like to say first off, T-Rex, Mannytranny, and Pepperidge, I 100% respect all of your opinions. This is what this country was founded on. Freedom of principal. I agree everyone really came out after 9/11 on their patriotism. Unfortunatly this seems to be the only time this happens. I have been flying my flag 24hrs(w/' a light on it at night) way before 9/11. But things are changing. Not only in the U.S.A. but the whole world. We have to stop thinking that the whole world revolves around us, our economy, our actions, and I think we have to stop policing the world.

I'm ready a book right now that is a very perceptive of what is going on in this world. The book is called "The World is Flat" A brief history of the twenty-first century. By Thomas L. Friedman

I saw a series of interviews that Friedman did over in Europe. Very interesting stuff.

Ide like to get that book. He was on The Daily Show, and he seemed like a smart dude.

Scott, Id like to congratulate you on your first worthwhile post:ro)





:joke: :lol:

........... the people that funded 9-11............................

(Sorry, yes I know......to much thinking again) :eek:

Who FUNDED 9-11 ???????? Do you Know ?

Idahofox

My problem is I think too much, and forget to sugarcoat it for you all........

Think ??? Think ??? Thunk!

Please do not Sugarcoat it for me, I am One of those that have protected your "Right" to engage your mouth, before your brain.

Idahofox USN (Ret)

You sound like you can barely contain yourself, so why dont you tell me (what you think)?

You couldn't handle it.

Idahofox

Try me. :rolleyes:

homepukes, I was a pilot for them. In 2001 I was flying the 767/757 for them, the same airplane that was used.

I fly the FLUF for Delta. Luckily, I was home that day. Did you retire from TWA or just get screwed by AA when they bought TWA? Wow, this thread sure went on a tangent since I last looked at it.

The truck made the NBC World News tonight. Great job on this truck!

I fly the FLUF for Delta. Luckily, I was home that day. Did you retire from TWA or just get screwed by AA when they bought TWA? Wow, this thread sure went on a tangent since I last looked at it.

homepukes, I got the old screw job from that 'so called' pilot group of AA. My first day at TWA was the morning after TWA800(7/18/96), started as a FE on the 727, then did the upgrade. I got the 'Heavy Metal' bid on the 767/757...man life was good. Then you know the rest.:mad: I did get hired at ATA last year....another sinking ship, I resigned two weeks before the furlough of my group. Anyway I did the 737(next generation(use that turn loosely):h )) ground school and sim at DAL's training center. That is a nice facility.

Say Rick, I hear that Hooters is going to have an airline now...
Might be "perky" part-time gig, huh? ):h

Say Rick, I hear that Hooters is going to have an airline now...
Might be "perky" part-time gig, huh? ):h

:naughty: :lol2: :clap:

homepukes, I got the old screw job from that 'so called' pilot group of AA. My first day at TWA was the morning after TWA800(7/18/96), started as a FE on the 727, then did the upgrade. I got the 'Heavy Metal' bid on the 767/757...man life was good. Then you know the rest.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif I did get hired at ATA last year....another sinking ship, I resigned two weeks before the furlough of my group. Anyway I did the 737(next generation(use that turn looselyhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/hihi.gif )) ground school and sim at DAL's training center. That is a nice facility.

There were a couple of TWA guys in my new hire class in '98. I started out on the 727 on the panel then to the right seat. I got to fly the 737-800 for three months then 9-11 happened

Sorry to hear about what happend to you. I wondered if ALPA could have done more for you guys. Their hands were tied. There sure is no love loss between ALPA and AAs union. They do things their own way. Are you furloughed from AA or did they fire you?

Not the best industry to be in right now. All the old guys I fly with say the beginning of every decade is bad and the end is good over the last 30 years. I don't know about this time, I have buddies at United that are bailing because things are so bad there. Things are getting worse here thats for sure.

You are correct, this industry is a friggen mess. I think the biggest problem for the mainline pilots is the RJs.....they take up the same amount of airspace(unlike what the turbo-props) and the total pay of the Capt, F/O and F/A combined is still less than senior F/O at DAL or AA...but where does all the flying seem to be going?

That 727 was a great airplane, IMHO. I really did not like the -800, I think SouthWest really screwed that airplane up. That airplane could do so much more than it does, but from what I understand they could not...to keep the common fleet at LUV. TWA and the FAA had treated the MD80 and 717 as the same type rating. Go figure.

I think ALPA tied there own hands.....My feelings, ALPA was wanting to be the new union at AA. With that 40+million APA owes AMR for that smart 'sick-out' they had when the airline merged with Reno. ALPA was looking to make a deal. The TWA pilot group has a class-action lawsuit against ALPA, from what I understand they have a big paper trail, in TWA's favor. But time will only tell.

Say Rick, I hear that Hooters is going to have an airline now...
Might be "perky" part-time gig, huh? ):h

The perks would be great!!):h But I wounder, you know how your shirt smells after being in a Hooter for a while(like you took a bath in wings)? I wounder how the planes will smell?:eek: ):h :badidea: ):h On second thought, lets not think about how the airplane will smell.:lol:

The perks would be great!!):h But I wounder, you know how your shirt smells after being in a Hooter for a while(like you took a bath in wings)? I wounder how the planes will smell?:eek: ):h :badidea: ):h On second thought, lets not think about how the airplane will smell.:lol:

I don't think it would smell like wings man!! ):h

You are probably correct.):h

It is probably a :badidea: to smell any airplane for that matter. ):h

I was in ORD the other night. We taxi out and there is a line of 30 airplanes and 27 were RJs no joke. I agree about the -800. Delta wanted the 777/767-400 cockpit. We get a fancy 737-200 cockpit. I also agree about ALPA wanting AA in the union. ALPA even let all the scabs from Continental in the union a couple of years ago.
I am not putting all my eggs in one basket. My wife an I are doing the real estate thing and also doing some investin in FL. Funny how the company wants you to put all their eggs in their basket but they will leave you high and dry when the time comes. Meanwhile managment get rich. You know the story.

Also when we talk to non-airline people, they have no idea how our seniority system works. My wife, if she wants a promotion and/or pay raise chances are she has to interview with another company. If we want to move into the Captains seat, we just can not go to XYZ airline, get hired and start flying in the left seat. But we go in to it knowing this...we have to put all our (flying)eggs in one basket...and you are right they will leave us high and dry....and we will or have been S.O.L. then have to actually start all over again. That is if we are even able to get hired at another airline that is worth a crAAp.

NoWake,

Back in the day, I flew TWA out of STL more times that I can count. I never thought I would miss them. The Flight Attendants were usually snotty, but seeing what 'ol Carl did to the company, I couldnt fault them. I did enjoy being one-hop to anywhere in the US though

Since AA closed the hub, getting out of STL is such a major PITA that I couln't take it any more. I quit my job that had me traveling, and I now work down in Herculaneum, poisoning the planet and making the Gun Crowd happy
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/joke.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif .


Sorry about you getting screwed by all this. I just wanted to let you know that there are some passengers that miss the old days too!

Tim

Cowracer, thanks for the post....they are missed by more that just employees that is for sure. At least you are home now and not having to deal with the travel industry anymore. Keep a eye for me pulling my boat down 55 to Lake Kinkaid.

This kind of sums it up....check out this thread. :)
http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?p=590660#post590660