I have a 2007.5 lmm Ok Im not sure which to go with edge juice with attitude or banks 6 gun with pda I tow a 8000 lbs travel trailer , do lots of driving without trailer .Want better fuel economy all around if it is possible.Is the banks a cleaner tune than the edge? Post your thoughts Please.....

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Do you plan on deleting the DPF? Doing this will really help with your economy and towing ability. If you do, then get EFI Live or have someone tune your truck and get some gauges. Best tuning option out there hands down. If not and you want POWER, then you'll have to go with the Edge. Banks is kind of over priced and doesn't give you the power that the Edge will.

Yes if you do DPF delete then I say EFILive or at least Edge Evo unit. If no plans on that if worried on warranty lose then I would say Banks is the better one over the Edge.

You may gain some mileage but not much over all but Banks claims better results than Edge last I heard. Usually with banks you add the banks exhaust and banks intake to help there. But the cost will take some time to recover.

Defiantly get an EGT gauge with pulling something like that. Like going up steep grades you will want to drop a gear or two to maintain lower EGTs but may depend on the module tuner settings.

Running more power with cause DPF to regen sooner. So again may not be much of a mileage gain especially when pulling.

Brian

If your keeping the DPF definatly go with the banks, mine regened less than stock and i gained 1-2 mpg towing on the highway

Do a DPF delete with the Edge Race and don't ever look back. It's easy and you get the power and fuel economy you deserve. I tow an 8000# travel trailer as well, just put the Edge on lvl 2 and go.

You do not need to go efi live for dpf delete... Some guys do not like the laptop tunning...Not slamming efi live... Edge race is a sweet programer for canned tunes with the dpf delete...

where did you get your banks product, In Calgary somewhere? Im in Moose Jaw Saskatchewan

You do not need to go efi live for dpf delete... Some guys do not like the laptop tunning...Not slamming efi live... Edge race is a sweet programer for canned tunes with the dpf delete...


Not saying that you need to go with EFI, but if you want the best and have a laptop or a friend that has EFI, then that is the way to go. Edge does make a nice tuner also.

I think, no scratch that; I know EFI live is the SHIT. Look at all the fastest DMAX's, all tuned with EFI live. I don't plan on building my motor so I don't think I need all that capability. I also like the gauges and straightforwardness of the Edge Race, 7 tunes from mild to wild that can flash in under a minute AND gauges. Pretty complete package for the money if you ask me.

You don't need a built motor to run EFI. Look at my power. It's on a stock motor and charger. You make your truck run the way you want it to with EFI. You can dial it in for better milage than the Edge will.

EFI live can't go from a tow tune to a big tune in under a minute... total time just press menu>programming>level x>enter, it's already plugged in and right there. I really like that flexibility with my tuner. Maybe if they had a switch for the LMM like the earlier Dmaxs then it might be a little better. Even then you have to pay for each additional tune you want with the exception of the 1 or 2 you get when you buy EFI. I'm aware you can tune yourself but why take the chance to save some bucks when there are guys out there who actually know what they are doing.

Yeah, they are working on making the V2 change tunes on the fly like he earlier Dmaxs do. It's all about how you want to set your truck up. You can make a decent tow tune at low to mid throttle and have it set to really let loose at full throttle. It's up to you. Go with what you feel is right. My feeling is EFI is the best. I'm not a fan of buying something twice. I had a Bully Dog PMT stacked and thought that was the greatest. Then I made the switch to EFI and have never looked back. It doesn't take much to figure out EFI and there are a lot of guys on here that can answer any questions you may have. Also how much you spend on it, depends on where you buy it from. I reccommend Nick with duramaxtuner.com. He has good pricing and some real good tunes.

Yes there is work on the 06 LLY, LBZ, and LMM to do the switchable tuning just like non Bosch ECM LLY and LB7 but Pual and Ross have hit a few walls and no guarantee it will happen as I have seen from the threads on here and EFILive forum. Now there won't be a switch like previous LLY and LB7 did cuz there are no pins on the bosch ecm to do this. But I think one can leave the flashscan II plugged in and use one of the 5 volt inputs to use a dsp5 switch on. Then just have to tuck all that up under there or my thoughts under the cup holder and then mount switch wherever you want. Well at least soon they will have stand-alone tuning so one can upload a tune without a laptop. It still take the same time to flash ecm as before with a laptop but at least not have to drag laptop around all the time.

Brian

It is possible to have switchable tuning on these newer trucks. Bully Dog has it with their Triple Dog, PMT and GT. There is a way.

I wonder if they work like the banks and intercept the signal from the ECM. I also wonder what the advantages are for this way as opposed to flashing the ECM(besides no reflash history).

I have a 2007.5 lmm Ok Im not sure which to go with edge juice with attitude or banks 6 gun with pda I tow a 8000 lbs travel trailer , do lots of driving without trailer .Want better fuel economy all around if it is possible.Is the banks a cleaner tune than the edge? Post your thoughts Please.....

Your best bet, seeing as you tow, would be the economind tuner and PDA. This way you caould also add the SpeedBrake on top of the tuner and have a fully adjustable (and change on the fly) exhaust brake as well. Both the tuner and the brake are controled through the same PDA.

Was checking out the PMT but cannot download the instructions on any to get some idea. So I would say if Bully Dog can actually do a switchable tune just like EFILive can do on a LB7 and LLY then I would say EFILive should be able to get it but they are spending time on new controller mapping now so new features get put on hold. All we can do is just leave Paul and Ross do what they can. I have no idea if they have others to help or if it is only two guys creating one nice programmer.

Brian

The PMT will do on the fly for the LMM. But not do DPF delete.

where did you get your banks product, In Calgary somewhere? Im in Moose Jaw Saskatchewan

Ya at a local performance shop cant think of it right now , maybe it will come to me l8ter

i went with Banks-- you do not have to be a it person, diesel mechanic, you install and go. it has all the built in safeties, does not overide the ecm and works - period.

I just installed the Banks with PDA on my 07.5 Chevy Duramax, seems to be everything I wanted except Speed Limiter, I tow a 13,000+ lb. fifth wheel. Better fuel milage and plenty of power, cleanest set up with DPF. Has 7 different power levels and the PDA is nice, but I thinking of selling it because of the lack of a speed limiter which only comes when the stock computer is flashed. Once ECM is flashed it leaves a foot print and may void your warranty, the dealership here installs programmers on some of their new trucks so they will honor a programmer install as long as nothing more like DPF delete. Thats why I going to trade up to a programmer. If your intrested, this Banks is for your LMM 07.5 with PDA, have the original packing and sales recept direct from Banks. Cost me $897 plus $149 for the remanufactured PDA (looks brand new), total $1046. I'll knock off a $100 or so, save ya some money if intrested thread me or call 3073890725 or 3073822070 ask for Mark, leave message. Show and give you sales invoice dated 06/18/09 recieved 06/23/09.

Is it a six gun or economind?

Is it a six gun or economind?
From one of his other post...

Banks 6 gun no speed control
I recently installed a Banks 6 gun with power PDA in my LMM, real nice system except I forgot to enquire if it had a speed limiter or should I say speed limiter elliminator. I know, its a tuner, not a programmer that flashes the truck control unit. The Banks uses its own control unit mounted under the hood, there fore not able to change (flash) the stock control unit, got it! So now since I already installed it, it's not returnable however I was informed by one of the techs at Banks that I can purchase a programmer to flash the stock control and still use my tuner (stacking). He suggested the Quadzilla, he informed me that he knows of many customers that have used this programmer with the Banks and it works well. Question I have is, is this the only or best route besides trying to sell the Banks. Looking for a tuner/programmer with all the features in the Banks with speed control and possibly GPS. Any input would be appreciated.:confused: