lost2a6
04-30-2005, 10:57 AM
<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=alt2 width=175></TD><TD class=alt1><HR style="COLOR: #d1d1e1" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->I was just wondering if someone could search this VIN for me. It is 1GTHK23181F212205. It's a 01 GMC crew 4x4 D/A SWB split bench seat. I'm getting serious about buying this truck and I want to make sure that I don't make a mistake. The guy told me that it has had the injectors replaced twice, and that they just replaced the transfer case due to an oil leak. I would rather have a 02, but I just can't find one with everything that I want including the split bench seat. The truck has 80,000 miles on it. It has the extended bumper-to-bumper warranty until 100,000. I can't seem to get him lower than 23,500 on the price, does this sound like a fair price? The truck looks very clean in the pictures. It also has a few extras like ARE camper shell, step bars, and Rhino liner.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Thanks, Steve
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GMCSID
04-30-2005, 11:25 AM
The injector or injectors, I don't know part numbers so I can't tell if it's one or 8, have been done once, it's listed twice but on the same RO with different claim types (I don't know claim types either). There is no claim for the transfer case. The fuel pump has been replaced.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cols=6 cellPadding=5 width="100%" bgColor=beige border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width=11><SMALL>VIN : </SMALL></TD><TD width=89><SMALL>1GTHK23181F212205 </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
</SMALL><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cols=6 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=12><SMALL><CENTER>VEHICLE INFORMATION </CENTER></SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<!-- Vehicle Information (vehicle build + dealer info + warranty block) --><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cols=6 cellPadding=5 width="100%" bgColor=beige border=1><TBODY><TR><TD><SMALL>Merchandising Model : </SMALL></TD><TD colSpan=3><SMALL>TK25743 -2001 SIERRA 2500 HD 4WD CREW CAB </SMALL></TD><TD><SMALL>Warranty Start Date : </SMALL></TD><TD><SMALL>08/15/2001 </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD><SMALL>BARS Order Type : </SMALL></TD><TD colSpan=5><SMALL>70 - RETAIL - STOCK </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top rowSpan=3><SMALL>Delivering Dealer : </SMALL></TD><TD vAlign=top colSpan=3 rowSpan=3><SMALL>BURT BUICK-PONTIAC-GMC TRUCK, INC.
5850 S BROADWAY
LITTLETON , CO 80121-8009
(303) 794-5343
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" bgColor=beige border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL><CENTER>Description </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>Effective Date </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="15%"><SMALL><CENTER>Effective Odometer </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>End Date </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="15%"><SMALL><CENTER>End Odometer </CENTER></SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>36/36000 BUMPER TO BUMPER </SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>08/15/2001 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>120 miles </SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><CENTER><SMALL>08/15/2004 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>36120 miles </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>72/100000 SHEET METAL COVERAGE RUST THROUGH </SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>08/15/2001 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>120 miles </SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><CENTER><SMALL>08/15/2007 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>100120 miles </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>96/80000 FEDERAL EMISSION CATALYTIC CONV. AND PCM </SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>08/15/2001 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>120 miles </SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><CENTER><SMALL>08/15/2009 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>80120 miles </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>60/100000 FEDERAL EMISSION </SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>08/15/2001 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>120 miles </SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><CENTER><SMALL>08/15/2006 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>100120 miles </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>60/100000 GM DIESEL ENGINE IN LIGHT DUTY VEHICLE WITH $100 DEDUCT AFTER BUMPER TO BUMPER </SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>08/15/2001 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>120 miles </SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><CENTER><SMALL>08/15/2006 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>100120 miles </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" bgColor=beige border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>R.O Date </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>R.O Number </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="5%"><SMALL><CENTER>Type </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="60%"><SMALL><CENTER>Labor Operation </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="15%"><SMALL><CENTER>Odometer Reading </CENTER></SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>07/22/2004 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>058550 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="5%"><SMALL><CENTER># </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="60%"><SMALL>J1000 - PAN AND/OR GASKET, OIL - REPLACE </SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>62963 miles </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>07/09/2004 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>058207 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="5%"><SMALL><CENTER># </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="60%"><SMALL>B5750 - SUPPORT, TAILGATE/ENDGATE CABLE - ONE OR BOTH - REPLACE </SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>62399 miles </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>01/22/2004 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>084072 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="5%"><SMALL><CENTER>M </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="60%"><SMALL>J5916 - BLOCK, FUEL FUNCTION (DIESEL) - REPLACE </SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>50542 miles </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>01/22/2004 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>084072 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="5%"><SMALL><CENTER>M </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="60%"><SMALL>J5955 - PUMP, FUEL INJECTION (DIESEL) - REPLACE </SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>50542 miles </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>11/12/2003 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>082307 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="5%"><SMALL><CENTER># </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="60%"><SMALL>J5650 - INJECTOR, FUEL - REPLACE </SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>48675 miles </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>11/12/2003 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>082307 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="5%"><SMALL><CENTER>G </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="60%"><SMALL>J5650 - INJECTOR, FUEL - REPLACE </SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>48675 miles </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>11/12/2003 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>082307 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="5%"><SMALL><CENTER># </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="60%"><SMALL>J3520 - HOUSING AND/OR GASKET, THERMOSTAT - REPLACE </SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>48675 miles </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>07/26/2001 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="10%"><SMALL><CENTER>A12205 </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="5%"><SMALL><CENTER>I </CENTER></SMALL></TD><TD width="60%"><SMALL>Z7000 - PRE-DELIVERY INSPECTION - BASE TIME </SMALL></TD><TD align=right width="15%"><SMALL>0 miles </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cols=6 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=6><SMALL><CENTER>VEHICLE BUILD </CENTER></SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" bgColor=beige border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width="35%"><SMALL>Merchandising Model : </SMALL></TD><TD width="65%"><SMALL>TK25743 -2001 SIERRA 2500 HD 4WD CREW CAB </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" bgColor=beige border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width="35%"><SMALL>Gross Vehicle Weight Rating : </SMALL></TD><TD width="25%"><SMALL>4177 kg (9210 lb) </SMALL></TD><TD width="25%"><SMALL>Order Number : </SMALL></TD><TD width="15%"><SMALL>DGNDS3 </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="35%"><SMALL>Build Date : </SMALL></TD><TD width="25%"><SMALL>07/26/2001 </SMALL></TD><TD width="25%"><SMALL>Build Plant : </SMALL></TD><TD width="15%"><SMALL>11F43 </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cols=2 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2><SMALL><CENTER>OPTION CODES </CENTER></SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cols=2 cellPadding=5 width="100%" bgColor=beige border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>AE7 - 40/20/40 SPLIT BENCH SEAT </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>AG1 - 6-WAY POWER DRIVER'S SEAT </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>AG2 - 6-WAY PWR DRIVER & PASS SEAT </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>AJ1 - DEEP TINTED GLASS </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>AM7 - FOLDING REAR SEAT </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>AU0 - REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY SYSTEM </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>AU3 - POWER DOOR LOCKS </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>A31 - POWER WINDOWS </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>B30 - FULL COLOR KEYED CARPET W/MATS </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>B32 - FRONT COLOR-KEYED FLOOR MATS </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>B33 - REAR COLOR-KEYED FLOOR MATS </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>B71 - WHEEL FLARES </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>B85 - BRIGHT BODY SIDE MOLDINGS </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>CMD - ASSEMBLY PLANT - FLINT, MI </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>C49 - ELECTRIC REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>C6W - GVW RATING - 9,200 LBS </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>C68 - AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>DF5 - ISRV MIRROR W/COMPASS & TEMP </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>DK7 - CUSTOM INTERIOR ROOF CONSOLE </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>DL8 - EXT ELECTRIC HEATED MIRRORS </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>E63 - WIDESIDE BODY </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>FE9 - FEDERAL/NY/MA/ME/VT EMISSIONS </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>FT2 - ARM TORS BAR SPRING ADJ </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>FT3 - ARM TORS BAR SPRING ADJ </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>GT4 - REAR AXLE - 3.73 RATIO </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>G80 - LOCKING REAR DIFFERENTIAL </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>HVY - IDEN 2 INCH BODY RAISE,HD MODEL </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>JH6 - 4 WHEEL POWER DISC BRAKES, HD </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>KC4 - ENGINE OIL COOLING SYSTEM </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>KNP - TRANSMISSION COOLING SYSTEM </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>KUP - THROTTLE CONTROL ELECTRONIC </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>K05 - ENGINE BLOCK HEATER </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>K34 - ELECTRONIC SPEED CONTROL </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>K47 - HIGH CAPACITY AIR CLEANER </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>K68 - ALTERNATOR 105 AMP </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>LB7 - 6.6 L DURAMAX DIESEL </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>M74 - 5 SPD AUTO TRANS, ALLISON </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>NF2 - FEDERAL EMISSION SYSTEM </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>NP1 - ELECTRONIC SHIFT TRANSFER CASE </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>NP5 - LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHL </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>NZZ - OFF ROAD - SKID PLATE </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>PY0 - POLISHED ALUMINUM WHEELS </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>QIW - LT245/75R16/E OOR BW TIRES </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>R6C - CSV IDENTIFIER </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>R6T - CONVENIENCE PLUS GROUP INCLUDES * POWER DRIVER & PASS SEAT * ELECTROCHROMIC INT. MIRROR * TRANSFER CASE ELECTRIC SHIFT </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>SLM - STOCK ORDERS </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>TFE - SALES INCENTIVE-COMMITMENT PLUS </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>TQ3 - BATTERY 770 CCA (DUAL) </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>T96 - FRONT FOG LAMPS </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>UN0 - AM/FM STEREO W/CD PLAYER </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>UQ3 - ENHANCED PERFORMANCE SPEAKERS </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>UY2 - CAMPER/TRAILER WIRING PROVISION </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>UY7 - HD 7-LEAD TRAIL. WIRING HARNESS </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>VB3 - CHROME RR STEP BUMPER </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>VG3 - CHROME FRT BUMPER W/ RUB STRIP </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>VR4 - WEIGHT DIST HITCH PLATFORM </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>VXS - COMPLETE VEHICLE LABEL </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>V10 - WINTER COVER </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>V22 - CHROME GRILLE SURROUND </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>V73 - STATEMENT OF CERT. U.S. </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>XGK - LT245/75R16/E OOR BW TIRES </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>YD3 - BASE EQUIP FOR SCH GVW PLATE </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>YD6 - REAR SPRING - BASE EQUIPMENT </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>YE9 - SLT DECOR INCLUDES: -FRONT LEATHER SEATING SURFACES -POWER WINDOWS & LOCKS -REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY -AIR CONDITIONING -CHROME GRILLE & REAR BUMPER </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>YGK - LT245/75R16/E OOR BW TIRES-REAR </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>ZGK - LT245/75R16/E OOR BW TIRE-SPR </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>ZY1 - SOLID COLOR </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>Z82 - HEAVY DUTY TRAILERING EQUIP. </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>Z85 - HANDLING/TRAILERING SUSPENSION PACKAGE </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>Z88 - GMC TRUCK NAMEPLATE </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>1SC - MARKETING OPTION PACKAGE - 1SC SLE TRIM </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>1SZ - MKTG OPTION PKG DISCOUNT </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>52D - NEUTRAL - CUSTOM CLOTH </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>52I - LT NEUTRAL INTERIOR TRIM </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>6GL - SPRING COMPTR SELECT FRT LH </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL>7GL - SPRING COMPTR SELECT FRT RH </SMALL></TD></TR><TR><TD width="50%"><SMALL>74U - 74 FIRE RED-SOLID </SMALL></TD><TD width="50%"><SMALL> </SMALL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
lost2a6
04-30-2005, 12:31 PM
Wow! Thanks!:grd: Do you think that I should stay away from it? Does $23,500 seem like a good price?