: Tragedy Narrowly Averted!
dkubek 04-27-2005, 01:12 AM So I'm drilling my driver's side manifold when all of a sudden, the damn tap breaks off inside the manifold. Luckily, it broke off at an angle which left about 1/8" that I could grab, very gingerly, with a pair of pliers and back it out. Luckily, I got the broken off piece out. I don't think anything fell into the exhaust since it was running. Sure scared the Censored out of me when it happened. All I could see was that piece getting sucked into the turbo and grenading it! It had also gone deep enough to get a good tap. That was only the second time using this tap too. I have never had that happen. How about anyone else?
Turbine Doc 04-27-2005, 01:14 AM Chip in the tap hung up the cutter teeth ??? maybe
gmctd 04-27-2005, 08:12 AM It's the cock-eyed angle, necessary for the job task - requires more facial contortion and tongue-biting than when tapping directly straight-in.;)
Final effect would result from the piece being 'blown' into the turbine blades, or could just rattle around in the c-o pipe, driving you nuts.
Good recovery........
Diesel Grinch 04-27-2005, 08:20 AM Did the drill or was it the tap? Had plenty of drills break but never a tap. I also do no use a drill to turn the tap.
Here is a question. When doing the pre-turbo tap how do you keep the little chips from going into the turbo?
w_huisman 04-27-2005, 08:58 AM Here is a question. When doing the pre-turbo tap how do you keep the little chips from going into the turbo?
That's why you make the tap with a running engine. It blows the shavings out the hole your tapping. Right guys?
BornReady6.5 04-27-2005, 10:42 AM dkubek, I did the SAME thing you did. Barely got it out.
I was tapping a small square casted right below the turbo flange. It looked like the perfect spot. I think I just got a little crooked.
I too, only got half the threads I would have liked to have had, but she seems to be ok. No leaks.
dkubek 04-27-2005, 12:30 PM It was wierd. I was turning the tap with a straight tap handle obviously due to lack of space and it just broke off. Here is a pic of it. Needless to say, I will be returning it to SEARS.
shakmobil 04-27-2005, 12:35 PM Yah, steel seems not what it used to be, nowdays.
dkubek 04-27-2005, 12:36 PM And yes, the engine was definitely at idle. It is actually idling at about 1100rpm right now(see other thread). I think that may have been a good thing all things considered for this near catastrophe. I was moving my probe to try and get more accurate readings since I turned the pump up. I think it happened since I was doing a dry tap. I didn't want to get any lube in the turbo. I don't know if it would have mattered or not. Did anyone else use cutting lube when tapping their exhaust manifold while on truck with engine running?
dkubek 04-27-2005, 12:40 PM Yah, steel seems not what it used to be, nowdays.
You ain't lyin'. My Dad's hometown of Ambridge, PA used to be a huge steel town. Now all the factories my grandfather worked in are all closed up and their "steel making components" are being disassembled and shipped overseas:eek: ! How about that price of steel, huh?
shakmobil 04-27-2005, 12:50 PM So you drilled and tapped with the engine running?
CanadianRigger 04-27-2005, 01:12 PM I didn't use any lube or break a tap, but of course it was done on the bench not in the truck and i tapped the boss below the turbo, i don't think i'll see much of a temp difference from where you guys are doing yours as my 2.5" x-over was painted black and has 2 coverings of header wrap and then painted black over that again.
Kennedy 04-27-2005, 01:31 PM Taps are very hard and if you apply force in the incorrect direction can break easily...
Cowracer 04-27-2005, 01:54 PM You ain't lyin'. My Dad's hometown of Ambridge, PA used to be a huge steel town. Now all the factories my grandfather worked in are all closed up and their "steel making components" are being disassembled and shipped overseas:eek: ! How about that price of steel, huh?
I dunno 'bout steel, but leads going out at 44 cents a pound :rockit:
This makes for a happy Timmy!
Tim
dkubek 04-27-2005, 05:42 PM Taps are very hard and if you apply force in the incorrect direction can break easily...
That must have been what happened since I was using a straight tap handle (like a screwdriver handle) to do the tap. A lot harder to apply perfectly perpendicular force. Oh well.
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