: All this cold air intake talk???
TurboJunkie 04-26-2005, 09:35 PM Guys there has been a lot of threads lately on the CAI setup. I have been looking at set up in truck and wondered if anybody has tried my idea I have going in my "P" brain.
What about cuting stock air box away at side of fender and then cutting side of fender to match hole and of course notching fender well, I'm sure installing some sort of mesh over hole would help. It seems like that would be suitable cold air there?
Has anybody tried this before I go cutting up truck? I really don't see any other way other than snaking something down where most of you have your I/C mounted. I'm still wondering if that location is best for I/C mount.
It seems like the best solution for these trucks is either Liquid to air I/C's or Alochol/Water injection? Space is definetly at a premium on the 6.5's.
BTW as I was out today I saw 2 catch phrases on a Dodge
"Dodge Makes it Cummins Shakes it"
"I'd rather be Cummin than Strokin"
Man we really need a good catchy phrase.
MrTailLight 04-26-2005, 09:44 PM it would be awesome to have a great big scoop out there, but alot of people worry about how it looks on the side of the fender.
i wondered about a false parking light like the old 64 Ford Thunderbolts had with their head lights and then running it through the core support. again how would it look?
our main goal is the coldest air possible, and only about 1000 ways to get it, just choose one!
TurboJunkie 04-26-2005, 10:08 PM My idea though is pulling air from inside wheel well, of course you would have to fully close air box on inside as it doesn't but completely to fender. I actually thougt of inverting the air box and making a ram air type scoop in hood if you can get visual
jmkglloyd 04-27-2005, 04:46 AM The only problem I see with drawing a lot of air through the fender well is the dust. If you're cruising down a dirt road for any period of time, you know how much dust is picked up. Hopefully you have a decent air filter that will collect the dirt. Ram-air would be better for sheer volume of air, but again, say you're now following someone on a dirt road. All that dirt is getting sucked right up into the intake.
TurboJunkie 04-27-2005, 08:56 AM My plan was a K & N. I would hope that would filter out dirt for the most part. Ideas??
Cowracer 04-27-2005, 09:09 AM How about '77 trans-am fender vents? they are relativly cheap, and would look pretty good on our trucks.
Tim
TurboJunkie 04-27-2005, 09:38 AM I like the idea, but I'm thinking on the hood facing front like ram air
Cowracer 04-27-2005, 01:49 PM I saw in a magazine where someone had a chevy astro van. They mounted 2 of the T/A fender scoops in the hood, facing forward.
It kind resembled the NACA duct Z/28 hoods from the mid '80's. The whole setup seemed like ig belonged.
Tim
wsucowboy 04-27-2005, 02:03 PM stay away from the K&N, get something better, there is an airfilter thread on here that will open up your eyes to the crap that K&N really is. -Jeff
jmkglloyd 04-27-2005, 02:42 PM cowboy - do you know what thread that is?
wsucowboy 04-27-2005, 03:45 PM http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10372&page=1&pp=10&highlight=air+filter+study
It is long, about 40 pages but if you get into it you will eventually get to the actual test results. Sorry I dont have the right page #. -Jeff
shakmobil 04-27-2005, 07:10 PM Here is the study (http://home.usadatanet.net/%7Ejbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm).
Make your own conclusions.
Still I'm kind of puzzled, those diagrams show K&N filter as passing second to the most dirt, yet one of the next diagrams shows it as being the fastest "dirt loading" filter. If so much dirt passes, what loads it then? ):h
And I wonder if it was lubricated properly.
Smells fishy ... -:t
TurboJunkie 04-27-2005, 09:51 PM The AC Delco filter is this test, is it reusable. I didn't think Delco made a reusable filter.
wsucowboy 04-27-2005, 10:27 PM not reusable, they just tested the factory paper filter. -Jeff
K&N says right on the box something about not being ideal in dusty climates. Look at it this way guaze filters make more power and provide better fuel economy than stock. How do they do this, by reducing the amount of restriction seen by the engine. This is accomplished by NOT FILTERING OUT AS MUCH as a stock filter. If the gauze cleanable filters protected the engine better, while providing more fuel efficency the manufacturers would be using them. They are all desperate to increase the MPG #'s as there sales are hurting due to the cost of fuel.
TurboJunkie 04-28-2005, 09:30 AM Man that was a great study. Any chance there was the same type of comparision on oil filters?? Look like the overpriced filters are not always the best ehhh!!
Roberts 04-28-2005, 10:35 AM i just bought an aFe Stage 2 for my 6.5 and i really like it and it is supposed to be tops in filtration performance. I got it for $310 ($328 with shipping) ...Man, my turbo sounds kind of like a semi now:rolleyes:
guybb3 04-28-2005, 10:41 AM can you give us the dimensions of the filter itself?
Roberts 04-28-2005, 10:55 AM yes, i'll get the dimensions. Work has been super busy and so i forgot to get them already. sorry
I can tell you that the top of the enclosure has rubber around it and the hood seals it off when closed. Only room for engine air is small space by coolant reservour and small space by battery
Firefighter 04-28-2005, 11:51 AM TurboJunkie, check out these links:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000513;p=
http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/oil_filter_study/
Might offer some useful info;)
ChevyDave 04-28-2005, 12:41 PM I was considering putting a hole in the fender and covering it with a grille like the new Land Rover LR3 has, but time is at a premium and I haven't even had a chance to install IC yet.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif
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