I know it's on here already but unable to find so here it goes. I have an 06 crew cab 4x4 long bed LBZ 2500 HD and I'm looking at a 2007 weekend warrior 5er 39.5' it weighs 12-13k dry maybe 17k loaded. Is this too much weight for a 2500? Can't afford a new truck so a dually 3500 is out. Any opinions?? Thanks.

yeah thats too much for a 2500hd 08 the max capacity is 16 000 pounds with a fifth wheel and 12 000 lbs with wdh

thats way ti much

put air bag system an you should be alright

all right but not legal

its up to you

dont get caught !!

You will be fine towing it, with air bags. I towed a 44ft enclosed GN that weighed in at 16,500 loaded. Towed it about 75,000 miles, always locked the cruise at 75 and never struggled.

On another note, I would be careful with the that Weekend Warrior, there is a reason they went bankrupt. Those things are not built very well at all.

That is a bit heavy, but is possible. You have plenty of power, just not rear axle capacity. The WW brand trailers are fine. the biggest problem with them is they are heavy. The manufacturer was known for "misslabeling" ther actual weights. I think WW went bye bye to avoid a class action lawsuit for there misrepresentations of there rig weights, and associated issues.
I tow a fiver thats is same size and weight with a single wheel one ton. I am right at the limit. So, keep that in mind.

I live in SoCal and see guys up and down the 10 Fwy. With a setup like I'm describing. Are they all pushing the limit? What would my SAFE limit be? Thanks for the suggestions.

technically you will be overloaded, but with airbags you should be ok.

You may want to add some extra trans cooling capacity also.

WW are fine, they were just overpriced which may have contributed to their demise.

I live in SoCal and see guys up and down the 10 Fwy. With a setup like I'm describing. Are they all pushing the limit? What would my SAFE limit be? Thanks for the suggestions.


Yes we are all close to the limit, or beyond. My last trip to Ocatillo wells, I hit a scale and had 300lbs to spare on my rear axle. My total combined was 25,000lbs. No firewood this trip and I was out of the truck.

Hit a scale... On purpose or the popo got you? This thread is making me think the warrior is too heavy. Gonna think a. It on this one.

No, I hit it on purpose. It was at a truck stop not at the scale house. I like to see what I weigh with the different combos I pull. I like to be armed with knowledge just in case I get stopped.

you need to know the pin weight loaded since that will be your weak point the RAWR and tires for a 2500 hd are 6084, then take the empty truck weight and see what you have left for the pin, if you have enough left you may ok.

That's too much weight for a lifted 2500HD. I towed a Full Throttle WW with a lifted 2500HD for ten miles and knew right off I was way over weight and it wasn't safe for me and my family. That's why I made the switch to the 3500HD DRW.

Weekend Warrior went out of business for several reasons but none of them were because their trailers were poorly built. I have seen these big 'ol trailers pulled out on the sand 5-6 miles away from the nearest paved road and they didn't pop the outer fiberglass like I have seen a lot of aluminum framed toy haulers do because they don't flex. I haven't weighed mine yet but I will the next time we are getting ready for a trip to see just how much weight I am pulling with my 3500HD DRW but I know I will be safer then if I had pulled it with my lifted 2500HD.

I have a Pullrite Superglide 18k hitch for sale if you need it to pull that WW.

Some guys might not have any problems with their WW. I have just seen several problems that I never saw in the true race trailers. I have one friend that had issues with slideouts, another friend that had all kinds of interior problems and know one guy that actually lost an axle! Plus, I just saw a picture online of a bumper pull style that had the frame break at the back of the tongue. I guess I'm not really comparing a WW to say, tahoe toyhauler. I'm comparing it to a Haulmark style trailer like the one below.

http://www.dealsonwheels.com/images//barcode/00678079E02_1.jpg

you need to know the pin weight loaded since that will be your weak point the RAWR and tires for a 2500 hd are 6084, then take the empty truck weight and see what you have left for the pin, if you have enough left you may ok.

Agree, your GVWR maybe be close or over, but the Pin weight is where I would be concerned.

The limitations on a stock 2500HD are tire capacity and suspension sag. Both can be overcome within reason. Be aware that a 17k GVWR will have a PIN weight range betwee 2550 (wishful) and 4250. My guess if equiped with bedroom slide and 5.5 generator would be 3500- 4000 loaded with toys/water/fuel/food/stuff. Another issue to be aware of is trailer height - an axle flip or suspension spacer may be needed to lift trailer to match a lifted truck.

Always best to calculate weight issues on trailers using the GVWR becuase the only time dry weight applies is when you tow home the first time from the Dealer.

No, I hit it on purpose. It was at a truck stop not at the scale house. I like to see what I weigh with the different combos I pull. I like to be armed with knowledge just in case I get stopped.

I too regularly run over the scale on the outbound side of most trips. Several scalehouses on interstate close by that are not used very often. Safety starts with knowing what your load weights. Overloaded tires and axles are accidents waiting to happen. This doesn't even count the inconvience or problems of trying to find parts or tires Sunday night in the middle of no where.....

My biggest issue with weights that close to the limit is "BRAKES". Check the trailer brakes yourself and make sure the controller is set and working correctly. Dmaxes can fool you because they pull soo.. easily ,but you gotta remember stopping is more important than pullin'.

My biggest issue with weights that close to the limit is "BRAKES". Check the trailer brakes yourself and make sure the controller is set and working correctly. Dmaxes can fool you because they pull soo.. easily ,but you gotta remember stopping is more important than pullin'.

Definitely agree with you on the stopping part. Real easy to over drive the stopping ability if you don't pay attention / drive defensively. Keeping trailer brakes working and adjusted properly along with having a good brake controller is a must with a big trailer.

Trailwhale

Do it! Air bags and good brakes you'll be fine.

A 2500HD has a 9200lb GVW if the trailer has 2 7K axles you combine the 9,200 plus the 14,000 and you can legally be at 23,200lbs. If you have a 3 axle unti you can add another 7K to that and you'll be OK to 30,200. Technically I'm good for 33,700 on my 2500HD and 34,900 on my 3500 because my trailer has a 24,500 GVW. If I were to buy a trailer with a 30,000 GVW which I can I would be good for 39,200 with my 2500HD and 41,400 with my dually. Those are all legal setups.

my mother in law has a custom horse trailer, 26k gwr, 2 8k axles. No way in hell i am putting 10k PIN WEIGHT

I went and looked at the trailer again and the numbers are not as high as i thought. 12,993 UVW (unloaded) and 16,000 GVWR total. It is a 3 axle trailer with 16" load range "E" tires. I also run 35" Toyo tires with an "E" rating. Now what do you think?

What is the model of the WW. At 16K PIN will be between 2400 (wishful) and 4000. Not a great difference from the 17K number range. Still think loaded up for dry camping you will be ~3500 PIN.

Have you looked at the 35" tire sidewall for capacity - as it could range greatly depending on the wheel diameter.

Again the three things minimum to verify/handle for safety - tire capacity, suspension sag and ability to level trailer when hitched up. Also, imo towing performance is going to be weak without gearing due to the tall tires. But again that is my opinion and I tow in the mountains.

35 12.5 x 20 Toyo MT ? If so it looks like they are 121Q rated or 3195 per tire. These might not have enough capacity for the rear axle loading of that trailer.

Wheels look like they are rated for 3420.

The tires would be your limiting factor but they are okay to 12780lbs while the wheels can handle over 13000lbs. If your truck loaded with fuel and passengers is less than 8000lbs you can handle a pin weight of 3780lbs. I had my old 2500HD weighed with a half tank of fuel and no one in the truck and it weighed 7280lbs. That's at least one way you can determine if you can safely pull that much weight.

On my Weekend Warrior the pin wt is 4000lbs and I had 371n tires on 20s that were rated roughly the same as yours so I was over the limit with wt on my truck. And boy, you can sure feel it. Perhaps if I had regeared and run a 35in tire it may have worked for a little while but my trani and brakes would have worn away really quick.

The tires would be your limiting factor but they are okay to 12780lbs while the wheels can handle over 13000lbs. If your truck loaded with fuel and passengers is less than 8000lbs you can handle a pin weight of 3780lbs....snip...

Technically correct on the amount of load all 4 tires/wheels can take but don't think you will be able to get anywhere near 6390 on the front end.

You are limited to 6390 on the rear axle by the tires. A safer way to know what amount of PIN the truck will take is to weight the truck with hitch, full of fuel, passengers and stuff for a trip. This will give you the real number for PIN capacity. Every other number is a guess - mine included.

I have a stock 2001 2500 duramax. I weighed at a scale. Steer axle-4320lbs, drive axle-6040lbs, trailer axle-9300lbs, gross weight-19660lbs. Am I OK? Thanks, Scott

Technically yes, as long as you do not exceed tire/axle/wheel limits.

I have a stock 2001 2500 duramax. I weighed at a scale. Steer axle-4320lbs, drive axle-6040lbs, trailer axle-9300lbs, gross weight-19660lbs. Am I OK? Thanks, Scott

Your truck GVWR is 9,200, your GW is 10,360, or 1,160 over weight.

Just hauled my trailer to Utah and back- scaled at just over 29k combined no water.

The truck did an awesome job and it was 108 degrees on my way up the Baker grade!

I tow a 17000pd 5er just about like what you are looking at.

I do run 4.11's though.

The trailer does have a 6" spacer so it is level. It is a triple axle.

The truck does fine. Braking is fine with 5 axles having brakes, no problems. I would recommend airbags other wise the pin is too much and you will get bucking.

I have driven a setup similar with a dually and I didn't notice much of a difference in stability...I know many on here have there own opinions about that but a dually never seemed any better to me.

If I were you I would be more interested in getting the endorsements that are needed. If you were to get stopped they can't do anything about your weight, you are not commercial, but they can for the license infractions. If you have the endorsements they are going to send you on your marry way. And remember you can't be pulled over without cause. If you setup looks correct and you are not speeding there should be no reason for you to be pulled over.

I travel to Glamis in socal 15-20 times a year...as do many others here. I have chatted with the highway patrol and sheriff's at the fuel stations with my setup. The say they don't care...they have to much to do to try and go through the hassle of proving you may or may not be overweight...there are just too many variables and the laws reading is not clear. Also there are some many aftermarket changes that could effect your trucks ability to handle weight. The limiting factor with our trucks is the tires and springs.

The axles can handle over 12,000pds from the manufactures rates on their site. So in reality I could go to an air ride suspension, 22.5 semi tire wheel conversations, upgrade my brakes. Then people on this site would still say that the CHEVY weigh ratings are my maxs and I would say bullshit. The CHEVY weigh ratings have nothing to do with it. They are just a number needed by congress for tax purposes....please get over those numbers people....they are not a set in stone number that the universe lives by.

Well here she is!! I pulled the trigger and I'm glad I did. Got a smoking deal (2007 WW CR3905 for $25k). I put air bags and all seems right. Thanks for all the input.

congrats- you will love your WW and the CR is a great floor plan!

I do like the CR it has a floorplan like no other I've seen before. Can't wait to get it out and use it!!

Congrats...you'll love it. Make sure you have a good brake controller and its set properly.

Nice looking trailer. What is the pin weight on that bad boy? Seems like it would be kinda high. The axles are set futher back than mine.

Nice rig! I would also suggest adding sway bars to your rig. Tom Fredrico sells a nice kit for this truck!

I have them and LOVE them!

I have a 35ft WW LE3505 and I pull it with a 2500HD. Mine came in at 16,000 GVW and I did fine pulling it. I've taken it to Glamis several times and it went to Oregon. Had to go down to 35-40 mph on the Grapevine and Shasta grades but I expected that. Congrats on the trailer.


Andy

The nose of your truck is way high compared the back, steering affected? Is this picture before airbags?

I have a 2009 38ft Cyclone, dry weight is 12,400 with a dry pin weight of 3,400 lbs (according to Hartland). When I bought this camper last year, I pulled it twice with my 2003 2500 crew cab 4x4 LB7, and I can tell you, without airbags, the sag was BAD, felt like I was looking at the moon. Airbags helped a lot, but I decided it was not something I wanted to do for long trips safety wise, and I pulled the trigger and bought the 2007 3500 dually in my sig. In MY opinion, there is no comparision between the two trucks, the 3500 handles the weight so much better, and the dual wheels are MUCH safer, that in my opinion cannot be argued.

The other huge difference is the LBZ motor compared to the LB7, also no comparison.

Well here she is!! I pulled the trigger and I'm glad I did. Got a smoking deal (2007 WW CR3905 for $25k). I put air bags and all seems right. Thanks for all the input.

How do you steer with the front tires off the ground?

How do you steer with the front tires off the ground?

I've seen much worse on my travels.

JMS- great looking trip-axle, congrats. Rear axle's rated to 6900lbs so check your tires can match that. Stock E-rated give you 6395lbs so there's room for some more. Again, big congrats.:)