Well guys, tommorow is almost here. I can hardly wait.

A few of us from Colorado will be going to Bandimeres speedway tommorow. We all plan on dialing in our trucks and messing around with our current setups. Once we are finished with our own trucks, we will then swap a few of the goodies.

There is the possibillaty of 2 separate trucks with adequate transmission/fuel systems and other equiptment to run a SAME DAY SAME TRUCK back to back comparison between the QAUD tuner and the EXTREME custom ECM.

Any thoughts on how to make this a fair comparison?

I guess when this is all over we can learn who's tuner was better on this particular day.

There will always be different trans, tires, fuel mods, truck weights :blahblah: to keep this fight alive as no 2 trucks will ever be the exact same lined up against each other, but it would be nice to see :D

built transmisson is a must for any reasonable results...............stocks gonna slip with any power over a 120 hp..................215 might as well be 415 with a stock tranny

Both of the potentail trucks have built transmissions. One is a full ATS and one is an ATS hybird.

These trucks will not race eachother. They will use the Quad for the best time then they will use the Extreme for the best time.

So really driver error is my biggest concern.

Then i guess that will be the closest comparsison to date............should be interesting. What Quad tunes.........new or old?????? The king shall be crowned tomorrow ):h

Quad version 4.02 revision 1.23.

I think that is how you say the most recent stuff he offers.

Isn't the Extreme VIN specific? How do you get around that? Does each truck have its own extreme?

Two trucks, two Extremes,two stock ECM's one Quad.

Two trucks, Two built transmissions, Two lift pumps, Two or maybe four bottles of N20?

I'll guess, and I mean totally guess.. that the E will be 1 sec quicker on ave. between both trucks.. should have a poll and see who's guesses closest..

Looking forward to seeing how this pans out tomorrow as well... Probably be the slowest DMAX out there with a reg juice box, but I'll smoke some ricer and have my own fun in the "slow class"... ):h ):h :ro)

Who are the Xtreme trucks?

If I told you , you might call them and pressure them to drive the Quad at 3/4 pedal.


One for sure. IBDMAXIN.

Maybe, Hopefully GMSLEHD

Those that have already run this test with a Quad/Juice combination Vs Xtreme alone have found .3 sec improvement. So if you run a Quad by itself I would expect that plus some. You can check with Sdaver, Carbon04, SuperDiesel and others as this has been done many times with the outcome the same each and every time. The real difference is just not the improvement at the track but also the overall drivability of the truck is greatly improved with the Xtreme.

I'll guess, and I mean totally guess.. that the E will be 1 sec quicker on ave. between both trucks.. should have a poll and see who's guesses closest..
Quad alone vs Xtreme I would imiagine a .5 second difference.

But what would I know ????????

:)

If I told you , you might call them and pressure them to drive the Quad at 3/4 pedal.


One for sure. IBDMAXIN.

Maybe, Hopefully GMSLHED
Thanks!

NO SOUP FOR YOU! Sorry that makes me laugh ):h

NO SOUP FOR YOU! Sorry that makes me laugh ):h
The ones that have no soup are..........:bawl::bawl::bawl:

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On my truck I turned..............

last fall Quad 215ver1.20 13.30@100mph 1.70 60'
Quad 215ver1.20/edge hotlv3 13.19@101.60mph 1.70 60'

last weekend Extreme 12.82@105.30mph 1.82 60'

same weight, tires
I am guessing the extreme will best it by .5

GMCSLEHD won't be there. He has some other things going on right now and won't be able to attend.

NO SOUP FOR YOU!

that's ok, the soup tastes like $hit anyway and they sell better soup down the road

NO SOUP FOR YOU!

that's ok, the soup tastes like $hit anyway and they sell better soup down the road
First you have to taste all the soups to know. You sir, have yet to do that. So your culinary opinion is one sided. I do however value your opinion regarding the main course as well as dessert, these things you have certainly mastered.

Your choice of soup is good, just somewhat lacking in spice. :D

I'm sure the rest of the chefs are very busy trying to figure out the recipe.

Might want to do the testing from idle in 4x4. No powerbraking or spooling. Less chance of traction issues, driver variation, or 60' times affecting ET's.

But that's no fun!! :D

On my truck I turned..............

last fall Quad 215ver1.20 13.30@100mph 1.70 60'
Quad 215ver1.20/edge hotlv3 13.19@101.60mph 1.70 60'

last weekend Extreme 12.82@105.30mph 1.82 60'

same weight, tires
I am guessing the extreme will best it by .5


There it is,testing is over! :p:

CO4,
Are you hiding something? Some of us like to let it all hang out (in our signature.):secret:what are you runnin on your truck other than stock?

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Originally Posted by Carbon04
On my truck I turned..............

last fall Quad 215ver1.20 13.30@100mph 1.70 60'
Quad 215ver1.20/edge hotlv3 13.19@101.60mph 1.70 60'

last weekend Extreme 12.82@105.30mph 1.82 60'

same weight, tires
I am guessing the extreme will best it by .5



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Originally Posted by Mackin
There it is,testing is over!
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Oh...........was there not a Co-Pilot added in the mean time???????

NO SOUP FOR YOU!

that's ok, the soup tastes like $hit anyway and they sell better soup down the roadThe other "Soup" went from a cup to a bowl and the price got cut in half......:eek: ......I wonder if generic soup is not as tasty as a homemade recipe..........ya know the one like Grandma used to make.........:p: :p: :p:

Anyway............I guess the question will get answered.........but you know it won't stop when the QUAD loses on both trucks...........I bet even a stack would lose.............):h ):h ):h

Oh well.........everyone have fun at the track..........Good Luck............even to those SOUP FREE racers........:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Don't forget the lift pump too.

co-pilot was taken off before I went to the track and transgo valves were put back in. I didn't like what the co-pilot did. I feel that the setup I have know shifts quicker and cleaner. Yes I do have lift pumps now. Did they help, it seems like it. Do I think that it would be closer without? Not really. There is a .5sec difference and 4.xxmph. Lift pumps can't help that much. I am just stating my truck. No it wasn't back to back.

Thanks Carbon.....our trucks seem to run fairly close......Extreme less of course....and I have a crew/short, not ex. Most of my track time is in the sumer though, you guys have really good air right now, and I don't have the time.

The ones that have no soup are..........:bawl::bawl::bawl:

):h

The only crying I am doing is over a missing ECM that got lost out in SoCal...

The only crying I am doing is over a missing ECM that got lost out in SoCal...
Sorry About Your Luck...........Better call and get the tracking number on Monday..........:p:
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Kennedy, what did you want with an ECM from Socal?:confuzeld :idea:

The only crying I am doing is over a missing ECM that got lost out in SoCal...
Clint from ATS told me he has the same problem.......

I really wish I had some kickazz story about the awesome competition between the Extreme and the Quad. I don't.

GMSLEHD spent his day at the dyno in Greeley so that was one of the test trucks.

IBDMAXIN was going to use an ECM that SPD33 was going to bring. Chad did not bring it with him.

I did not want to lone my ECM becasue the relearn would take to long. We had racing to do. However IBDMAXIN will share some kickazz Extreme/N20 kills with you all later.

Maybe somebody else will get around to this test at a later date?

Sorry!

Which reminds me, Chad mentioned that he might have some numbers for us also..........we're waiting

all this buildup and no comparison?

all this buildup and no comparison?
I have already taken my cold shower.



Should have not even mentioned it until after the fact. I bet we get another chance soon. Just have to arrange the details with IBDMAXIN. Does anyone know if my 03 ECM will jive in Wades 02 after relearn?

Don't wanna hurt anyone's feelers but Steve Cole is still the Duramax King for the LB7 tunes. Like it or not. Every dyno I have witnessed with the two tuners has the TTS being hotter. The only question is by how much.

LLY? PPE so far is the hottest thing anyone can order. Steve might have a hotter tune, but nobody is saying anything.

Next weekend we will have TTS LB7 Extreme trucks against my PPE tuned LLY in a sled pull. Once again, I will probably be one of the weakest trucks that show. This time, 2nd place ain't going to cut it. I want a first. Obviously a TTS tune would give me an advantage, but I do just fine as an underdog. Last time I ran a TTS Tow against TTS Extreme trucks, and kicked ass. This time, I'm not handing them a 180rwhp advantage, and they better brace themselves. I'm hunting for bear. :D

Which reminds me, Chad mentioned that he might have some numbers for us also..........we're waiting
Yes, i talked to him today.. sounds like everyone had a good time.

He is very pumped about his new ride.:ro)

Don't wanna hurt anyone's feelers but Steve Cole is still the Duramax King for the LB7 tunes. Like it or not. Every dyno I have witnessed with the two tuners has the TTS being hotter. The only question is by how much.

LLY? PPE so far is the hottest thing anyone can order. Steve might have a hotter tune, but nobody is saying anything.

Next weekend we will have TTS LB7 Extreme trucks against my PPE tuned LLY in a sled pull. Once again, I will probably be one of the weakest trucks that show. This time, 2nd place ain't going to cut it. I want a first. Obviously a TTS tune would give me an advantage, but I do just fine as an underdog. Last time I ran a TTS Tow against TTS Extreme trucks, and kicked ass. This time, I'm not handing them a 180rwhp advantage, and they better brace themselves. I'm hunting for bear. :D
:eek: I think someone drank too much Mead today ):h

:eek: I think someone drank too much Mead today ):h

MMMMMMM. I'm all over that.

Guiness or McKewans for a chaser please!:ro)

MMMMMMM. I'm all over that.

Guiness or McKewans for a chaser please!:ro)
Well he had to settle for Corona's when we got home ;)

Can you guys even Get McKewan's down there?

mild as mothers milk.... 9.7% per bottle!

Can you guys even Get McKewan's down there?

mild as mothers milk.... 9.7% per bottle!
I don't think so. But I don't drink that often, I will have to ask the expert in house ):h

PS - The above post is just good natured smack talk. I'm showing up once again with less HP than the LB7 trucks, so I need to stir it up.

Unless lightning strikes, I'm going to be out-gunned once again. It's hard enough to run against LB7's WITHOUT the TTS Extreme tunes, but with them them? Let's just say I'll have my work cut out for me.

As I recall, Big Blue did pretty dang good for stock tires and a little old tow tune. He beat my bucking Bronco!

He beat my bucking Bronco!
Maybe yours had too much Viagra?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/confuzeld.gif

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/muahaha.gif

My apologies for leaving the stock PCM at home. It was the furthest from my mind in the two days I had to get caught up with things at home prior to this trip. I don't believe though it would have done any good as Wade was having way to much fun smoking the competition. I doubt we could have made him leave the truck sitting long enough to make the necessary changes.

all this buildup and no comparison?

No kidding as usual

:) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Two back to back Nitrous powered Corvettes couldn't hold a candle to the truck!!! ;) ;)

The best kill was my first run in with the vette's, it was cherry red with a big drag wing in the back, running M/T drag slicks, nitrous, ram air, chip and exhaust. Lets just say the crowd went nuts when I spanked it by two or more truck lenths in the 1/4 mile!!!! I went 12.391 @ 112.5mph to the vette's 13.081 @ 104.75. Looks like the vettes are more fun to play with at 6000 ft. elevation!!!

Sorry for killing this thread with no results but I was having way too much fun drag racing!!!!

That's awesome...........:ro)

Those guys at the track have no clue.........it gets easier to beat them as the tuning and suspension gets dialed in..........;)

Guess I gotta get off my rear and get the NOS in..........:rolleyes:

Nice Kills..........:)
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It was very entertaining!!!!

Nitrous is a wonderfull thing!

IBDMAX'IN

You went 12.3 with just a Extreme program and SD nitrous system for power add on's at 6,000 feet ? :muahaha:


What's that equal to at sea level ? About a 8.9 second quarter ? :ro)

I think a naturally aspirated car is about a 1.5 second difference. Maybe 2 seconds.

The correction for a N20 or turbo/super charged vehicle is smaller.

I watched the run and I guess if we were at sea level Wade would have been in the high 11's.

I think a naturally aspirated car is about a 1.5 second difference. Maybe 2 seconds.

The correction for a N20 or turbo/super charged vehicle is smaller.

I watched the run and I guess if we were at sea level Wade would have been in the high 11's.


MTomac territory to name one,pre ATS Turbo off course :p:

Might want to do the testing from idle in 4x4. No powerbraking or spooling. Less chance of traction issues, driver variation, or 60' times affecting ET's.

But that's no fun!! :D
Not IMO, leave with as much boost as possible. We want to know what 60's they can cut. JMO


Yes we can get Mcewans(sp???) down here. I love that stuff but it will knock your dingy in the dirt quickly if you dont pay attention and you drink it like regular beer.:drinking:

Yes we can get Mcewans(sp???) down here. I love that stuff but it will knock your dingy in the dirt quickly if you dont pay attention and you drink it like regular beer.:drinking:

:grd: Gotta love it!

MTomac territory to name one,pre ATS Turbo off course :p:
It was very impressive to make a run like that at 6000ft, but I don't think I'll be holding a candle to Tomac yet, I'd still need a couple hundred more runs on the track and just as many if not more in the pulling arena!!!

Tomac was the one that showed the world what the d-max could do in competetion and continues to do so regardless of the power boxes he runs. I think he's one hell of a racer and competitor and have tremendous respect for the things he's done for the d-max. Go get 'em' Mike!!! :grd: