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dieselman65
03-07-2009, 03:16 PM
Rumor has it that DTech is coming out with a new PMD. Anyone know anything about that?
Stanadyne is coming out with a new one, March 15th or so. Biggest thing I see is that it is no longer interchangable with DTech - new connector and resistor configuration. Price remains the same.

dm65

trapp2012
03-07-2009, 03:19 PM
What was the price in the first place. Please say under 500 bucks

dieselman65
03-07-2009, 03:27 PM
lol. Both are well under $500.

trapp2012
03-07-2009, 03:28 PM
Oh. thank god. I am so tired of seein' Pmd's for over 500.

trapp2012
03-07-2009, 03:32 PM
Ok is this a good idea to buy one used.
I found 1 on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy-GM-Diesel-6-5L-Stanadyne-USED-PMD-FSD-Module_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q 3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c29 3Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZi tem120336749755QQitemZ120336749755QQptZMotorsQ5fCa rQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_915wt_1197
Just copy past the link i guess.
Sorry moderator please don't remove link please NEED HELP

trapp2012
03-07-2009, 03:33 PM
Good Idea. Bad Idea. Help.

Green Machine
03-07-2009, 03:34 PM
I highly suggest staying away from any used PMDs...

You don't know where they were located, how hot they got, how long they will work...

dieselman65
03-07-2009, 03:36 PM
If you're near Cleveland, stop in at D&W Diesel. They're about $240, I think. New Stanadyne's have 2 year, unlimited mile warranty.

trapp2012
03-07-2009, 03:47 PM
Diesel i'm in the Youngstownish area. Thanks for your opinion green you are right i don't know where it has been to.

trapp2012
03-07-2009, 04:04 PM
Here is a check list.
Year: __2000____
- Truck model and class (ie: c2500) _____k3500____
- Automatic or Standard ____auto______
- Mileage: (indicate miles or km) _107k________
- Replaced parts and mods (IP, PMD, chip/PCM, TM, injectors etc) _______Nope just oil and air filt____
- Model: ‘S’ or ‘F’ engine, NA or Turbo, EGR? ___F___________
- Ambient outside temp: (indicate *C or *F) __________
- What fuel are you using? (#1 Diesel, #2 Diesel, Bio, VO, WVO, etc) ______Ultra low sulf___
- What fuel additives are you using? __Sulfer boost_________
- Where are you located? _______Youngstown area Of Ohio______

General maintenance: inspect and evaluate the condition of each. When were they last changed?
- Air filter _last yr________
- Fuel filter _last month________
- CDR Valve? __IDK_______
- Coolant – last flushed/replaced at _IDK____________
- Oil – synthetic/regular, changed at __Place purchaced at_________
- Batteries – state of charge, (matched set) replaced at __Duralast___________
- Battery cables and grounds (removed, cleaned and tightened): ___tightened___________
- Glow Plugs - how many miles on them? ___Stock______ What type? _________Stock____
- Injectors - last changed at __Stock_____________


History: (Describe how the problem first appeared.)
- What were you doing when it happened? _______Doesn't work_______
- How was the truck running fine before this problem appeared? _______Yes______
- Has this problem ever happened before? __apparently it doesn't work_____________________
- Describe any related factors that might be part of the problem. __________No over head lights____
- Have you checked for DTC (Diagnostic Trouble Codes)? (Y.N) _N___ And? ___N_____


Diagnostics:

1] Starting:
1a] Does the engine start? ______N___
1b] Does the engine crank over? _Y_______
1c] Are your batteries fully charged? __Y_______
1d] Have you removed, cleaned, and tightened all battery connections? ______Y__
1e] Does your Wait to Start light come on for a time? How long? _Y 10 sec ________
1f] Does your glow plug light come on? _______Y__ For how long? __10 sec_______
1g] Do you see smoke from the exhaust while cranking? What color? _____normal___

2] Fuel Issues (if not running):
2a] Can you hear your lift pump working? ____________
2b] Do you get a steady flow of fuel from the water drain (T-handle) ? _________
2c] Loosen the inlet line from the IP – is fuel coming out (Lift Pump on)? ___________
2d] Loosen an injector line and crank the engine - does fuel come out? _________
2e] Do you hear a vacuum (hiss) when you remove the fuel cap? ___________

3] PMD / IP Issues
3a] Location of PMD (on pump, on intake, remote mounted) _____stock location______
3b] Condition of Extension harness (if used) Vendor or Homemade? _____NO____
3c] Condition of grounds / ground wires to IP / PMD. Check Harness. ______IDK___
3d] PMD Make: _9__________
3e] PMD Age: _____9________

4] Stalling Issues
4a] Do you experience stalling only when hot? ______N______
4b] Does it stall under particular circumstances? (ie hit bump, or on accel) ____N__
4c] Does pouring cool water over the IP seem to help with restarting? ___N______
4d] Is stalling momentary (engine recovers)? ___N______
4e] Does SES light come on when engine hiccups? N_________
4f] Does cruise control quit working when engine hiccups? _No cruise________
4g] Does re-starting seem to reset engine, restoring cruise and power? _____N____
4h] Changes to dash lights or instruments during stalling events? _______N____

5] Running Issues
5a] On cold start, does upper rad hose get hard before engine warms up? ____IDK___
5b] Any bubbles or oil film in coolant overflow tank? ___N____
5c] Any white slime on oil surfaces (dipstick, CDR, oil Fill cap)? N__________
5d] Excessive white smoke from exhaust on cold start? ___Not really______
5e] Excessive black smoke from exhaust under hard acceleration? _____N_____

6] Performance Issues
6a] Do you have gauges? ________N___
6b] Maximum boost under load? ___What ever stock is_________
6c] Have you added a performance PCM (reflash) or Chip? _N_____________
6d] Have you changed exhaust / downpipe / crossover? ____N____________
6e] Wastegate – mechanical or vacuum? _______Stock_______

7] Temperature-related Issues:
7a] Single or dual thermostats? ______Sing______
7b] Have you replaced them lately? Manufacturer of replacements? _____N____
7c] Have you pulled and cleaned Radiator and coolers lately? _______N_____
7d] Have you replaced the fan clutch? Manufacturer of replacement? ____N____
7e] (winter) Have you tested your antifreeze? Good to what temp? _____Yes winter over_____
7f] (winter) Are you using a winter grille cover? ___N________

List and describe any other factors which are not addressed in this checklist. We can’t see, hear, smell, or touch your truck, so the more descriptive information you can give, the more likely it is that somebody can assist you.

jifaire
03-07-2009, 06:45 PM
Rumor has it that DTech is coming out with a new PMD. Anyone know anything about that?
Stanadyne is coming out with a new one, March 15th or so. Biggest thing I see is that it is no longer interchangable with DTech - new connector and resistor configuration. Price remains the same.

dm65

Curious... if it has a different connector and resistor configuration, how will it plug into our trucks?

Supplemental... if it has an adapter plug or cable that enables it to be plugged into our truck harnesses, then why can't that plug be adapted to fit a DTech? Oh, I forgot... our truck plugs fit into a DTech with no modification or adapters.

Seems to me there is no benefit to anybody (including Stanadyne) in changing their connector and resistor configuration; this isn't about the FSDs, it's about the IP and the PCM.

Now, this wouldn't just be more etherware, would it?

IamDave0887
03-07-2009, 09:56 PM
Its showtime folks. Time for another round of BS from DieselMan65.

DM65, you honestly had to start your crap about Dtech and Stanadyne yet again didn't you. You really don't get it, and you also show that you don't want to be here, other than to spread rumors and lies.

The change in plug and resistor setup is a lie and you know it. I told you if you started this stuff again you'd get a nice long holiday from here again.

Don't worry, I'm keeping my promise. ;)

IamDave0887
03-07-2009, 09:59 PM
Good Idea. Bad Idea. Help.

Bad idea. And don't listen to dieselman65. He's here to do nothing but rant about his usual Dtech garbage, and spread false information.

Your working towards that holiday of yours quite nicely, DM65.

trapp2012
03-07-2009, 10:14 PM
Dave in your opinion what should I buy I DONT HAVE 500 BUCKS to spend on a HEATH

RCpullerdude
03-07-2009, 10:17 PM
Dave in your opinion what should I buy I DONT HAVE 500 BUCKS to spend on a HEATH

I say buy a brand new PMD (I've seen them brand new $150-250-ish), along with a heat sink, extension harness, and mount it outside the engine bay.

IamDave0887
03-07-2009, 10:19 PM
Dave in your opinion what should I buy I DONT HAVE 500 BUCKS to spend on a HEATH


I told you in the other thread. Build your own relocation setup. It won't cost as much. get a new pmd(not a used ebay one) and mount it on a heatsink yourself and mount the assembly behind the front bumper. You can also build a PMD extension cable(~6 feet long will do) so you can hook everything up.

If i didn't buy heath, its what i would've done. Just make sure to seal the setup from the elements with a non-silicone sealant on the base where the PMD meets the heatsink and on each of the 4 screw heads so water cannot wick down the threads. (if the sealant smells like vinegar its acidic which is bad)

trapp2012
03-07-2009, 10:20 PM
RC your solution is to simple. LOL. But actually that what I should do instead of listen to these guys and their bull shit

RCpullerdude
03-07-2009, 10:23 PM
I say buy a brand new PMD (I've seen them brand new $150-250-ish), along with a heat sink, extension harness, and mount it outside the engine bay.

RC your solution is to simple. LOL. But actually that what I should do instead of listen to these guys and their bull shit

Dare I even say an SSD kit? It's like $400ish and then you can extend the harness yourself or buy one to remote mount it. Search FSD heat sync on eBay and sift through all the goodies.

Dieseldad97
03-07-2009, 10:25 PM
I told you in the other thread. Build your own relocation setup. It won't cost as much. get a new pmd(not a used ebay one) and mount it on a heatsink yourself and mount the assembly behind the rear bumper. You can also build a PMD extension cable(~6 feet long will do) so you can hook everything up.

If i didn't buy heath, its what i would've done. Just make sure to seal the setup from the elements with a non-silicone sealant on the base where the PMD meets the heatsink and on each of the 4 screw heads so water cannot wick down the threads. (if the sealant smells like vinegar its acidic which is bad)


Rear bumper Dave LOL...

IamDave0887
03-07-2009, 10:29 PM
Rear bumper Dave LOL...


uh....oh.....damn typo. need....more.....sleep......:o:


EDIT: fixed....yet i still feel REALLY stupid for that mistake. :o:

IamDave0887
03-07-2009, 10:32 PM
But actually that what I should do instead of listen to these guys and their bull shit


call it what you want, but one of us has nothing to gain from all this. One of us knows what's correct and what works. I'll leave that decision up to you, but its not a difficult one to make. One look into both of our posts will prove that.

trapp2012
03-07-2009, 10:36 PM
Its ok Dave. We all make mistakes.

IamDave0887
03-07-2009, 10:44 PM
Its ok Dave. We all make mistakes.

I'll be the first to admit i make mistakes. I make more than my share of them as well.

The subject on PMDs has been beaten to death over and over. Heath backs his product with an outstanding warranty because he knows it works. I'm not saying buy heath or buy nothing, not by any means. I know what its like to be hard pressed for money. As i write this i have maybe $5 to my name until payday.

Building something on your own, but using the same basic idea(out of engine bay and sealed from elements) will net you the same results if you built it correctly. The PMD will run much cooler because the outside air really helps to cool it down, and therefore prevents heatsoak and PMD burnout.

Design your own setup, but just remember the few above pointers and you'll be fine.

- Dave

dieselman65
03-07-2009, 11:41 PM
The change in plug and resistor setup is a downright lie and you know it.

How much money you got to back this up?

RCpullerdude
03-07-2009, 11:46 PM
The change in plug and resistor setup is a downright lie and you know it.

How much money you got to back this up?

One million Spacebucks!-Spaceballs

dieselman65
03-07-2009, 11:47 PM
well, jifaire, I'm with you on this one. None of us can figure out what's up. Obviously it can't be used with conventional harnesses, so that rules out the cooler market. I suppose someone could come up with some kind of adapter, but I see no reason to as long as DTechs are available. Hell, I don't even know why they went thru all the expense of re-tooling. I just saw the flyer Friday, I will try and find out more.
dm65

IamDave0887
03-07-2009, 11:49 PM
The change in plug and resistor setup is a downright lie and you know it.

How much money you got to back this up?


I base what i said on the fact that you've tried to say many other things as fact here many times, and have been proven wrong before.

If this plug change is true why has no one else said anything. I'm not surprised that your the first one, and only one as of now, to come forward with this new "information". The last time you said you were the only one to have information didn't go so well for you, remember that?

Do you have photographic proof of this change? if you do then i guess i'll look like a total moron. I encourage you to post these pictures, as I want to be proven wrong. If you don't have proof then it'll be like everything else you've ever said here, false.

Please prove me wrong on this PMD plug change with some photographic proof.

trapp2012
03-08-2009, 12:45 AM
Dave i agree. And even if they did change the wiring harness thats a hall of alot of wires to be splicing for a stupid harness. Or you could be smart and stay with the same design.

IamDave0887
03-08-2009, 12:47 AM
Dave i agree. And even if they did change the wiring harness thats a hall of alot of wires to be splicing for a stupid harness. Or you could be smart and stay with the same design.

That's what i figure. why change it now? i could maybe see changing it back in 94 when the PMD and Electronic injection 6.5 was born, but not now 15+ years later. It makes no sense to me, but then again that's not unusual. :o:

trapp2012
03-08-2009, 12:52 AM
That BS that they would FINALLY decide to do something 15 years later.

IamDave0887
03-08-2009, 12:57 AM
That BS that they would FINALLY decide to do something 15 years later.


I'm lazy but c'mon now. That's a long time to wait, even for me. :p:

trapp2012
03-08-2009, 01:17 AM
That is a long time to wait. If they said that they were doin' this 4 or 5 years earlier that would have been a little bit better most everyone would have converted.

tookielee
03-08-2009, 11:11 AM
I told you in the other thread. Build your own relocation setup. It won't cost as much. get a new pmd(not a used ebay one) and mount it on a heatsink yourself and mount the assembly behind the front bumper. You can also build a PMD extension cable(~6 feet long will do) so you can hook everything up.


Only thing I've got to add, (and this is purely personal opinion) is I will
never buy another Stanadyne FSD. It's possible the D-Tech would
have gone out as fast as the 3 different brand new S'Dynes did when
mounted on the intake, but I doubt it, And they may have survived
longer in the bumper, like I've got the D-Tech mounted, but I'll never
know. All I know is, Stanayne left a bad taste in my mouth.
And D-Tech cost less.
As far as new design on plugs, what company would change the design
on a REPLACEMENT part (Remember, no new vehicles are using these)
so that it wouldn't plug into the vehicle it was designed for?
Only thing I could see in that regard, was them including a new harness
with the new FSD

Bison
03-08-2009, 12:10 PM
Dont be surprized by this 'PMD" change [ if so?]after 15 yrs of failures.there's notting unusual here.Just look at the latest 6.5 engine .
besides that, governments work like that too, slower than shit trough a funnel.

IamDave0887
03-08-2009, 01:06 PM
Dont be surprized by this 'PMD" change [ if so?]after 15 yrs of failures.there's notting unusual here.Just look at the latest 6.5 engine .
besides that, governments work like that too, slower than shit trough a funnel.


Yes but there was nothing wrong with the connector in the first place. But that's how things seem to work with corporations and governments, if it works fix it until its broken.

mamzerook
03-08-2009, 01:27 PM
Rumor has it that DTech is coming out with a new PMD. Anyone know anything about that?
Stanadyne is coming out with a new one, March 15th or so. Biggest thing I see is that it is no longer interchangable with DTech - new connector and resistor configuration. Price remains the same.

dm65
Link or STFU!:rolleyes:

IamDave0887
03-08-2009, 01:51 PM
Link or STFU!:rolleyes:


:lol: that's one way to make a short and to the point post eh? :p:

JMJNet
03-08-2009, 03:59 PM
Let's suppose that it is true, may be after 15 years Stanadyne is actually putting some engineering time to it. Who knows it may come with a heatsink to be mounted outside with an extension cable that can adapt to the current connector. In addition, they warranty it for 10 years or 500k miles whichever comes first or until all the 6.5 are gone.

What are the chances that they actually learn and listen? It would not take to be a rocket scientist but that would be a breakthrough.

How about putting this input to Stanadyne, Dieselman65 for the March 15 release before it is manufactured in China?

mamzerook
03-08-2009, 06:24 PM
I found nothin on stanadyne site.

chris4521
03-08-2009, 06:28 PM
i heard theres a new PMD coming out that runs on dry ice, is wireless and adds another 200hp and 315ftlbs of torque any info on this steaky?

IamDave0887
03-08-2009, 07:08 PM
i heard theres a new PMD coming out that runs on dry ice, is wireless and adds another 200hp and 315ftlbs of torque any info on this steaky?

:rotflmao: :lol2:

trapp2012
03-08-2009, 08:56 PM
When.What brand sign me up

guybb3
03-09-2009, 12:55 PM
One thing I would add guys is that I would BUY an extension harness rather than build one. I have been in the electronics industry for 32 years and that was the most miserable soldering and heat shrink experience of my life. I had a whole inch of slack to deal with. PMDcable.com sells one reasonably and so do a few other guys.

chevyinlinesix
03-09-2009, 01:27 PM
E-Mail I sent to Chatham Fuel Injection today, soon we will have the answers.:rolleyes:

I've dealt with you guys in the past, and you were very helpful and had exactly what I needed, so I have another question for you.

I will be looking for a new PMD for my 1996 6.5 diesel this year, and recently came across some information regarding the Stanadyne PMD's, and was wondering if you could verify it for me. Apparently Stanadyne is coming out with a new PMD in March of 2009 with a differant connector and resistor configuration. As a Stanadyne dealer, have you heard/know anything about this? or is it just another lie being spread about the internet?

Thank you for your time,
William Eyre

BlueBurby1
03-09-2009, 02:35 PM
omg anyone hear about that new PMD that turns your engine to Direct Injection, and makes 2WD vehicles 4WD...it's only $5...!!! :p:

DieselSlug
03-09-2009, 02:37 PM
I so gotta get me one of those....

BlueBurby1
03-09-2009, 02:38 PM
lol

chevyinlinesix
03-09-2009, 02:39 PM
Here is the Reply back guys,

William,

"Supposedly" Stanadyne is coming out with a new PMD - this is in response to the Dtech PMD already on the market. Dtech is now the official supplier to General Motors for replacement PMD's. We stock the Dtech PMD's and mounting plates now. I have no idea when Stanadyne will have their new PMD nor if it will be all that they say it will. We have sold many Dtech PMD's and only had a single warranty!

Jack

BlueBurby1
03-09-2009, 02:41 PM
is stanadyne changing their plug? and what will be the projected cost of the stanadyne unit?

JMJNet
03-09-2009, 02:55 PM
Here is the Reply back guys,

William,

"Supposedly" Stanadyne is coming out with a new PMD - this is in response to the Dtech PMD already on the market. Dtech is now the official supplier to General Motors for replacement PMD's. We stock the Dtech PMD's and mounting plates now. I have no idea when Stanadyne will have their new PMD nor if it will be all that they say it will. We have sold many Dtech PMD's and only had a single warranty!

Jack

There is tone of uncertainty in the mail about Stanadyne. I got the feeling that Stanadyne had promised them air in the past. Nothing against Stanadyne but it looks like they don't like to loose but they don't want to win either.

chevyinlinesix
03-09-2009, 03:09 PM
is stanadyne changing their plug? and what will be the projected cost of the stanadyne unit?

They didn't say anything about that, so I assume they don't know, seen as how I asked them in the E-Mail already I think they would have given me an answer if they knew.

Anybody know a better place to contact?
Like maybe the place where they manufacture them?

IamDave0887
03-09-2009, 03:15 PM
omg anyone hear about that new PMD that turns your engine to Direct Injection, and makes 2WD vehicles 4WD...it's only $5...!!! :p:


Want to buy me one Pete? I could use the bold section of your post. :o: :p:

BlueBurby1
03-09-2009, 03:54 PM
oh and apparently they add 700HP!!!!

dieselman65
03-10-2009, 08:17 PM
Interesting posts. I have the flyer in front of me but it won't scan. I can tell you what it says and then you can go do a search on EBay Motors and actually see one. Guy there is advertising one. Look at the picture and you will notice the gray connector.
The flyer notes the following changes:
1. Gold plated terminal pins in connector and its mating wiring harness. Connector reconfigured to prevent mismatch of previous harness.
2. Steel compression spacers in mounting screw holes to eliminate distortion;
3. Loctite on Power Transistor mounting nuts;
4. Softer potting compound;
5.2 year warranty, unlimited miles.

Believe it or not, I don't really care. And I still don't know why they did it. Cooler guys like plug and play and you can't do it with this PMD. And why do it now?
As for DTech, I have heard from several people that they have re-designed their circuit board but I cannot verify it. Maybe someone here can.
I'm going back in this thread to find the post about someone being a total moron.
dm65

IamDave0887
03-10-2009, 08:26 PM
Why is it that no one else can find this information. If you've got a flier, why is it that no one can find said flier anywheres? why is it that no one else has stepped up and said "yes i've got this flyer too". It just seems to be too convenient that it won't scan.


I'm going to lock this thread, as its not really going anywhere.

IamDave0887
03-11-2009, 06:14 AM
At the request of Jim and a few other members this thread has been re-opened so that evidence of this new PMD can be shown. i'm still watching this thread with interest, so play nice guys. ;)

- Dave

tookielee
03-11-2009, 06:32 AM
I'm willing to give benefit of the doubt, and quite a few times
Deiselman has been accused of an agenda on here, when I couldn't
see anything specific he had said to cause friction, BUT
" I have the flyer in front of me but it won't scan." sounds kinda weak :)

DieselSlug
03-11-2009, 06:42 AM
Well, im with you tookie, i dont know anything about dm65, but i wont jump to conclusions.. Please dm65 find a way to get that flyer on here, i cant find one on ebay either.....

BlueBurby1
03-11-2009, 06:49 AM
and its not like ebay is a reliable source....but please get us some real proof...this is an interesting concept

JMJNet
03-11-2009, 11:42 AM
dm65, if you have access to a fax, I can PM you my fax number, it is toll free from the US. It will convert to a PDF and I can post it as soon as I get it.

trapp2012
03-11-2009, 02:11 PM
I would like to see this flyer myself. And look at thiis new design

tookielee
03-11-2009, 03:52 PM
Tick tock....................

matuva
03-11-2009, 04:51 PM
Interesting posts. I have the flyer in front of me but it won't scan. I can tell you what it says and then you can go do a search on EBay Motors and actually see one. Guy there is advertising one. Look at the picture and you will notice the gray connector.
The flyer notes the following ---

while you can get a solution for showing this flyer, could you give us the # of the item on ebay, or better, the link to this one ?
I would like to see how it looks---

dieselman65
03-11-2009, 05:23 PM
new CHEVROLET GM 6.5 TURBO DIESEL PMD FSD MODULE
BRAND NEW WITH FACTORY 2 YEAR WARRANTY !!!!!

If you do a search on ebay motors, look for this. It's a ways down.

dieselman65
03-11-2009, 05:36 PM
•
STANADYNE
TS 16949/ISO 14001 Compliant





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At Stanadyne we've termed our new DS Pump Mounted Driver as "Bullet-Proof, since we've incorporated a series of new features for added durability and reliability.
• Gold Plated Terminal Pins in connector and its mating wiring harness to maintain electrical
contact integrity by reducing possibility of fretting corrosion caused by vibration. Connector reconfigured to prevent mismatch of previous harness.
• Resistant to Elevated Temperature Issues via extended temperature range components.
• Steel Compression Spacers in mounting screw holes eliminate distortion, providing for consistent mounting screw torque and ease of screw removal.
• Loctlte'on Power Transistor Mounting Nuts to maintain nut torque, ensures efficient heat transfer.
• Softer Potting Compound reduces thermally induced stress to . electronic components.
> Gray Plastic Housing for easy identification. • 2 Year Warranty with unlimited miles.
• Order Stanadyne PMD Kit Number 35976, includes new PMD,
wiring harness, heat transfer pad, and four mounting screws.
-
For "Bullet-Proof protection, contact your local Authorized Stanadyne Service Dealer for this product and all other Stanadyne original service parts.



WWW.Stanadyne.com • Stanadyne Corporation: 92 Oeertield Road, Windsor, CT 06095, USA; Tel: (860) 525-0821

dieselman65
03-11-2009, 05:37 PM
It wouldn't upload the pic but you get the idea.

IamDave0887
03-11-2009, 05:42 PM
do you have a link to this new PMD? several members(including myself) tore Ebay apart, and found nothing. On top of that ebay's not exactly a reliable source either.

Any chance you can fax this to a member like you were offered?

You can type up anything here, but the general consensus seems to be that we'd like to see the flier itself.

PMD kit 35976, when looked up on a search engine comes up with many results. All those results show the same PMD, with no change in plug connector.

Please fax that flier to someone so they can post it here, or try to get it to post here.

matuva
03-11-2009, 05:45 PM
new CHEVROLET GM 6.5 TURBO DIESEL PMD FSD MODULE
BRAND NEW WITH FACTORY 2 YEAR WARRANTY !!!!!

If you do a search on ebay motors, look for this. It's a ways down.

sorry, couldn't find any showing this gray connector....

IamDave0887
03-11-2009, 05:49 PM
I see a gray plug on the little IP wiring harness in some of the pictures. Its the harness thats the same on the Fuel solenoid is on. That connector doesn't plug into the PMD on my truck, nor does it directly plug into the PMD on the serveral 5068 pumps i've seen in school.

Here's a picture of the harness next to the PMD. http://www.rochesterfuel.com/products/images/PMD%20Kit.jpg
This is the one of the first things that comes up when "Stanadyne PMD Kit Number 35976" is entered in the search bar.

That black connector goes to the PMD. The gray connector behind the PMD does not plug into the PMD.

matuva
03-11-2009, 06:05 PM
yes, the grey one shown goes to a plug on truck harness...

mamzerook
03-11-2009, 06:47 PM
Case closed!!! Good work detectives!! I couldn't see a major design change as it would likely have raised cost on an almost obselete item. With competition from dipaco as a plug and play unit, A compatibility change would be foolish. Unless it involved stanadyne admitting their own design flaws.

JMJNet
03-11-2009, 07:33 PM
Yes, those are the same plug. The PMD plug is the one on the rhs of the picture. The one in the middle of the picture is the one that plug to the engine harness and the one on the lhs is plug into the IP.

LOL, no design change, it is probably just a new model no. to compete with Dipaco.

I am not sure if DM65 have a 6.5 engine or not?

DieselSlug
03-11-2009, 07:38 PM
THAT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE PMD I JUST BOUGHT FROM A STANADYNE DEALER..... No change on my opinion....

RCpullerdude
03-11-2009, 07:46 PM
I am not sure if DM65 have a 6.5 engine or not?

I think this here proves DM65's agenda here.

I know his history here of outlandish anti-Dipaco "I'm a Stanadyne authorised... We've mounted many... No problem on intake..." yadda yadda yadda posts with no proof at all, and even I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.

JMJNet
03-11-2009, 08:51 PM
I think this here proves DM65's agenda here.

I know his history here of outlandish anti-Dipaco "I'm a Stanadyne authorised... We've mounted many... No problem on intake..." yadda yadda yadda posts with no proof at all, and even I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Divide and conquer!!! Create confusion!!!

dieselman65
03-11-2009, 09:34 PM
lmao you guys are something else. Go here
Staff Edit - Non-site vendor link removed.

This pic looks nothing like the one you posted. Look at the end. Is it gray? Why, yes, dm65, it is gray. Geez, ya think maybe it's different than the regular black one. hey, I just wanted to share some info with y'all but forget it. Come visit me on ebay in a couple of weeks. You can see the old PMD then.

BlueBurby1
03-11-2009, 09:38 PM
its still black you dumbass....

the pmd is still all black, the harness plug is still black to pmd, gray to engine, and round to ip, just lik it's aways been...imagine that...

RCpullerdude
03-11-2009, 09:44 PM
lmao you guys are something else. Go here
Link removed by author using the quoted post to make less work for Davy Boy if he decides to delete links

This pic looks nothing like the one you posted. Look at the end. Is it gray? Why, yes, dm65, it is gray. Geez, ya think maybe it's different than the regular black one. hey, I just wanted to share some info with y'all but forget it. Come visit me on ebay in a couple of weeks. You can see the old PMD then.


You know sooooo much about the Stanayne PMD and stuff. You just discredited everything you've ever said here. You do realize that same harness and gray plug have been in use since like, um, 94? If you knew as much and are as experienced with these as you claim, you would have known that.

BlueBurby1
03-11-2009, 09:47 PM
davey bboy i think it's ready for locking now....before it gets out of hand(and it will now)

tookielee
03-11-2009, 09:56 PM
Sigh.... one scan, one fax, coulda been different :(

IamDave0887
03-11-2009, 10:02 PM
That PMD is still black. Even on my HD monitor, i see no gray PMD connector. Plus the plug still looks identical to the others.

And DM65 you may want to remove that Non site vendor link, before i do and warn you appropriately. The picture would've been fine, not the entire ebay ad.

matuva
03-11-2009, 10:10 PM
lmao you guys are something else. Go here
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This pic looks nothing like the one you posted. Look at the end. Is it gray? Why, yes, dm65, it is gray. Geez, ya think maybe it's different than the regular black one. hey, I just wanted to share some info with y'all but forget it. Come visit me on ebay in a couple of weeks. You can see the old PMD then.

Well, I understand the spirit of sharing, this is a good thing.
Though, what is shown about this item is that it is a 34583 Stanadyne PMD, latest design AFAIK, with a stock harness.
Like said above, the grey connector goes to the truck harness, the black plug goes to the PMD82050

These PMDs are fully interchangeable with the D-Techs and get the same connectors till 94's

JMJNet
03-11-2009, 11:14 PM
The the same one curl differently.

I have that same cable that I got when I bought my PMD a while back.

guybb3
03-12-2009, 02:21 PM
Sigh.... one scan, one fax, coulda been different :(

.....but noooooooooooooo

chevyinlinesix
03-13-2009, 10:30 AM
I have a new updated PMD wiring harness with the gray connector, also it says "S-TEK" on top of the PMD, which I assume means Stanadyne Teknologies.:rolleyes:

NOTICE: So you know this is for real, the newspaper is in the background:D

BlueBurby1
03-13-2009, 10:35 AM
LMFAO...today's farmer eh...you hick :p:

i have a pistachio...sorry dipaco unit in my truck...and it's got the grey stanadyne updated cord too :p:

RCpullerdude
03-13-2009, 09:15 PM
I have a new updated PMD wiring harness with the gray connector, also it says "S-TEK" on top of the PMD, which I assume means Stanadyne Teknologies.:rolleyes:

NOTICE: So you know this is for real, the newspaper is in the background:D

Haha. Can't believe you really did it!

chevyinlinesix
03-13-2009, 09:22 PM
Haha, I see you remembered. Yes, I was adding a couple pictures of my temporary truck to my garage, and said, aww what the heck, maybe it'll get a laugh or two.