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Gianelli
04-12-2005, 01:57 PM
i'm not gonna butter this up, i've got a problem and, yes, about everything has been tried. I have a jeep cherokee '85 (we think) with a 2.1 L french military diesel in it... anywho, we started having battery problems, replaced the battery, alternator, glowplugs, fuel line (injection problem) replaced the starter (you'd better believe that was fun to find... it's huge) then the starter brushes kept frying, now we're stuck with keeping a charge, starter brushes, and possibly another injection problem. Plus, there's that module that seperates moisture which possibly could be leaking (getting bubbles in) or just went a.w.o.l on us. So we look to the almighty wise ones for help...

a friend told me it may be the generator... (what?) instead of an alternator, but it ran fine with an alternator, i'd like to know if he's blowing smoke out his ass :D





thanks!!

Cobra#3747
04-13-2005, 08:28 AM
Yea ok...So what is the question in all of that?

Gianelli
04-13-2005, 01:12 PM
thats kind of the question... we dont really know, since nobody knows anything about this engine we can't get any straight answers. I'll tell you the problem though, we turn the key and "click" Not the battery, surely not the battery, we had it on a trickle charger for like 10 days and every attempt was just click. Took out the starter, brushes were fine, and click. we're stumped, done everythying possible with the glowplugs. we get int./ext lights when the key is turned to acc, but still no hope with starting.

yeah sorry for being so hazy, but thats all we know. Thing used to run like a champ, but just quit cooperating.:confused:

DavesDmax
04-13-2005, 04:53 PM
bad connections, a hidden drain or short on the battery, or a bad battery.

I've had a brand batteries not hold a charge and fixed all kinds of shorts and bad connections, only to find out I had a bad cell in the new battery.

It's really annoying.

You could have a short to ground almost anywhere. If you have electrical experience then start looking for a drain with the key off. If you don't know a thing about DVM's and ammmeters, then take it to a pro. Batteries can, and do, go boom.

Cobra#3747
04-13-2005, 08:07 PM
Faulty grounds, bad battery cables, even though you have a charger on the battery dosnt mean that it dosnt have bad cells and still dosnt have enough power to start the engine

hannaco
04-14-2005, 12:33 AM
Can you get a clamp on type meter? Just clamp it around the positive battery lead to see what kind of current flow is taking place. With key off, it should be near zero. If it shows a gazillion amps when you go to start, you just might have a short somewhere. If it only shows a few amps, look at the starter solenoid because current isn't getting to the motor.
The brushes are fine, but did you check to see if any of the windings were shorted?
Can you check the acid level in the battery?

Gianelli
04-15-2005, 05:25 PM
thanks a ton, i'm gonna check as soon as i get home, we really (stupidly) hadn't suspected that, but it seems like it could be a definite cause.

thanks again i'll repost after i git my hands dirty