Please share your experiences with this tuner. The soot thing has got my attention, I love my PPE, but regen alot. Don't know if I want to drop the PFE--Thanks!!

I vote drop the DPF.

I vote drop the DPF.

x2

You have already headed down the road of no return after using that tuner on your truck, might as well take off the DPF and keep using the PPE in my opinion.

I would get the Banks, their products are designed to not do damage to your truck.

I'm a big fan of the banks, but I've never ran PPE

dont buy its a waste of money and does not work well. had this(6gun w/pda) on my lmm and will run your fuel rail dry at high output. will aslo set codes like injector and others. the power curve of the banks sucks it provides bursts of power followed by big reductions of power and then a bust of power. similar to the edge powere curve. also the pda sometime cannot comunicate with the under hood module. when it sets codes sometime you can not remove them for a while and then it randomly decides to work again. get the quad and insight gauges

dont buy its a waste of money and does not work well. had this(6gun w/pda) on my lmm and will run your fuel rail dry at high output. Funny that nobody else is reporting this will aslo set codes like injector and others Interesting what code numbers were you seeing?. the power curve of the banks sucks it provides bursts of power followed by big reductions of power and then a bust of power. similar to the edge powere curve. Actually most find the power curve extremly smooth however if you want to change it you can adjust it through the PDA also the pda sometime cannot comunicate with the under hood module. This says you had a loose connection not a problem with the PDA. The under dash connector is the most common culprit when it sets codes sometime you can not remove them for a while and then it randomly decides to work again. The PDA will clear ALL codes with the "clear codes" tab in the diagnostic section get the quad and insight gauges:D

the codes regarding the fuel injectors are randomly caused by the lower quality than stock connectors for the underhood module. actually my dealer discovered that when one is to wiggle the connectors it can randomly set the injector codes. also they explained that a "fooler box" is not capable of working perfectly every single second and that will set codes on the new trucks. my GM service rep has stated that the Quad is much better as a flash tuner uses only the factory ECM wich has been designed to always work perfectly. furthermore the PDA is junk it never charges up fully and does not turn on automaticly when you start the truck, as the instructions state. it also has truble trying to locate the Banks equipment when trying to reset codes leaving you stranded at times. for that much money i was very let down and even had to pay towing and the dealer to figure it out. around $1,000 for Banks 6gun dealer and towing $675 lost time from work $500=2175 Quad+insight gauges+dash pod online about $725, 6 months trouble free. piece of mind priceless, and withth equad you can delete your DPF and EGR! win win;)

for the short period the banks was in my truck I had none of the above problems i had clogged dpf problems that i had untill i removed my dpf even on stock tuning. but youve already tuned your truck so instead of spending the cash on a new tuner drop the dpf i did and i wont look back

Everyone's milage may vary but I've had my Banks Six Gun on for almost a year. Not one problem and I drive a LOT. Truck's about 1-1/2 years old with 74,000 miles, most of that with the Banks on, and I would not hesitate to use it again. It's actually saved me twice when my filter waxed up while in Michigan this winter. Allowed me to clear the code's after repalcing the filter.

So for me, its work out fine.

I do wish it could do the DPF delete. I would like to get rid of it once my warranty is out but I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

Matt

the codes regarding the fuel injectors are randomly caused by the lower quality than stock connectors for the underhood module. Our connectors are made for us by the same company as the factory. If they're loose it's most likley due to damage during the installation or one or more of the connector pins didn't seat in the socket when they were put together. actually my dealer discovered that when one is to wiggle the connectors it can randomly set the injector codes. So you had a connection problem to begin with and this is why you PDA didn't connect also they explained that a "fooler box" is not capable of working perfectly every single second and that will set codes on the new trucks. Your dealer is completly wrong here, harness tuners like ours control the flow of information both to and from the engines ECM at all times the engine is running. I don't know where your dealer is getting his info from but he seems to have no idea what he's talking about. my GM service rep has stated that the Quad is much better as a flash tuner uses only the factory ECM wich has been designed to always work perfectly. It also put out far more soot then stock, reflashes the ECM which would be tracable and void your warranty. Your dealer told you all this?furthermore the PDA is junk it never charges up fully and does not turn on automaticly when you start the truck, as the instructions state.The PDA shuts down in order to protect the PDA's battery and our new display (that we actually make) will be out soon to replace it. it also has truble trying to locate the Banks equipment when trying to reset codes leaving you stranded at times. There aren't any codes that could "leave you stranded" not even a limp code and your connection problem with the PDA was due to a loose or improperly seated connector. A loose connector would also shut your truck down requiring a tow. for that much money i was very let down and even had to pay towing and the dealer to figure it out. around $1,000 for Banks 6gun dealer and towing $675 lost time from work $500=2175 Quad+insight gauges+dash pod online about $725, 6 months trouble free. piece of mind priceless, and withth equad you can delete your DPF and EGR! win win;) and be illegal and void your warranty

Sadly it seems you ran into a small issue that caused big problems. Had we heard about your issues before now we would have been able to do something about it.

I have had the Banks 6-gun PDA on since day one. I have about 3500 miles now. I had one on my 2003 dodge Ram 2500 diesel as well. I havent experienced any unusual codes. However the Speed loader setting is pretty much useless. If you floor it, it appears to de-fuel between shifts and basically makes it run slower than the lower settings.

It is like chvle66 says "the power curve of the banks sucks it provides bursts of power followed by big reductions of power and then a bust of power. " only on speed loader for me though, the other levels are great smooth power.

The Banks on my Dodge seemed to work much better. It was just raw power on the Speed loader setting.

All in all i am happy with it, and would do it over, as i do not wish to remove my DPF. The dealer did try to hassle me over the banks for an unrelated issue, i guess i will just have to remove it when i take it in.

:o:sorry guys really only telling what my experience was. i heard so many good things about Banks and thats why i pulled the triger and spent the money. my 6gun experience sucked i really felt let down. the PDA buttons did not even work 50% of the time. i called banks about the PDA and they said its common to have issues. i called regarding the other issues metioned and they said i could send it back to be tested, but i had lost faith in that system. now my truck is not legal with turbo back Brute Force intake EGR block Quad Stealth and Insight gauges. voided warranty maybe maybe not. but its runs how i wanted it gets the milleage i expected + some and im happy.:) my dealer was and always has been cool with all my mods and ive always been honest with them. with my Ford and Chevy the dealers have been great with mods just be honest they wont cover obvious abuse in any situation. keep truckin!

I have had the 6-gun on my Lmm for close to 17000 miles with no problems at all. I had the edge juice with *** and the truck is much happier with the banks

i have the Big Hoss package and could not be pleased more. Only threw one code that was my fault pulling my trailer in level 4 on a hill and egr went up. keeps the diesel safe while making more power -- what else do you want unless your made of money and dont care about warranty issues.

all i heard were good things before the purchase. the egt's would get out of control even with intake and DPF back and at full thottle not useable at any level. also the cradle ports are faulty and went bad and worked sometimes for weeks or months then i had to use another port. in a year i had no working cradle ports. i paid more tha i have for other products and got a lot less than with edge or quad. Banks bashes all other manufactures by running negative ads against them, while saying they are so great. so why a clogged DPF? when you talk all that talk and cost more you must back it up or stop the bashing and shut up. im not the only one you guys. also Banks said they also suggested downloading the 1.0 instead of the 2.0 version funny to go backwards. result=no difference. you all should know these things my review is unbiased. this is what happened, great to see the Banks tech trying to discredit GM's knowledge of there own products. also trying to make excuses when lol. you guys do not have something so good as trash talk the other manufactures. further more the tech support acknowleged problems with the cradle, PDA, and tuning issues with the LMM. they did offer for me to pay to send it back and for me to pay to have it uninstalled and i guess for me to pay to have it reinstalled once i got it back but why after all that. get your quad and edge insight with more options to upgrade later. you will not be let down and thats not:eek: trash talk it is reality!

I have had the Big Hoss package plus the super-scoop installed on my truck for about 20k miles and could not be happier. The power is great and I have never had an issue. As far as milage goes.... I get between 17 and 18 MPG driving around town and between 19 and 22 MPG on the highway. My best MPG was driving from Houston to Birmingham - 23 MPG (60-65 MPH, stock rims and tires).

chvle66...Funny that you are the only one complaining. It is probable that your install was faulty and they damaged the wires when they passed them through your firewall. Every single one of your complaints in you rambling sounds like a loose connection. Plus I laughed when you mentioned not wanting to pay the money to have it de-installed to send back and then re-installed. Don't you have enough mechanical ability to install a tuner? Maybe that is the anser to why you didn't do you own install. You very well may have had a bad experience with your product and you should have sent it back, but you certainly sound like a spoiled little brat....IMHO!

I've had the 6 gun w/pda on my lbz for over 100,000 miles. Has work flawlessly and as described for the entire time.

LOL the problems were bad underhood connectors causing nfuel injector codes, pda that never fully charges, pda that does not turn on automaticaly as advertised, fuel rail runs dry under heavy foot, bad ports on cradle, almost 0 milleage increase,egts out of control even on lowest setting, under heavy throttle power band has huge power burst then nothing then burst then nothing, no damaged wires when removed. why is it funny that i make enough money running my buisness to pay a pro to install my upgrades? am i a spoiled brat because your stuck with your Banks POS and cant dont have enough$ to get what you wish you had, or is it because i expect for a product to function as advertised, or your ignorant to understand any of this LOL! whatever the case what i stated in the post is true so get over yourself bro chvle66...Funny that you are the only one complaining. It is probable that your install was faulty and they damaged the wires when they passed them through your firewall. Every single one of your complaints in you rambling sounds like a loose connection. Plus I laughed when you mentioned not wanting to pay the money to have it de-installed to send back and then re-installed. Don't you have enough mechanical ability to install a tuner? Maybe that is the anser to why you didn't do you own install. You very well may have had a bad experience with your product and you should have sent it back, but you certainly sound like a spoiled little brat....IMHO!

LOL the problems were bad underhood connectors causing nfuel injector codes, pda that never fully charges, pda that does not turn on automaticaly as advertised, fuel rail runs dry under heavy foot, bad ports on cradle, almost 0 milleage increase,egts out of control even on lowest setting, under heavy throttle power band has huge power burst then nothing then burst then nothing, no damaged wires when removed. why is it funny that i make enough money running my buisness to pay a pro to install my upgrades? am i a spoiled brat because your stuck with your Banks POS and cant dont have enough$ to get what you wish you had, or is it because i expect for a product to function as advertised, or your ignorant to understand any of this LOL! whatever the case what i stated in the post is true so get over yourself bro
The pda used to just stay on & go into power save mode. It would never shut off. It would advertise to theifs come take me.. I hated that it did stayed on when I was not parking at home. They also made it turn off automatic because the batteries in the pda were not lasting. It is better the way it is now. If you have had that many problems, they would have sent you a replacement, if you bought it directly through them. Did you talk to Jeff Barker about this? Who did you buy it from? Did you buy it from Banks directly a different vendor or ebay??? What levels are you draining the rails. Just level 7 or all of them? Are you draining the rails or is the defuels saving your tranny? I have had a 2 mpg increase also.

I did call banks several times. All power levels at full/ heavy throttle would drain the fuel rail. Also all power levels would cause the EGT alarm to go off with heavy/ full throttle. I called after i noticed each issue. For the bad cradle ports they suggested trying another port wich provided a temporary cure then another bad port. Regarding the PDA they actually said they have had alot of problems. As for the out of control egts I adjusted all settings constantly and with Banks tech support downloaded the older 1.0 firmware and never had any improvement.Banks tech said they are still learning about the LMM on one call lol because its so advanced. My truck actually had to be towed twice thanks to Banks.The bad egine harness connections were the last draw and it had to come off the truck. In hindesite there was just nothing that was good about it like it was from China and I was ripped off. Look at a dyno curve of the 6Gun it will make you laugh it does hit some peak#,s then huge reduction in power resulting in poor average#'s compared to other tuners.The dyno curve looks like a mountain range way high and way low.I really wanted this POS to work but it wasnt to be. Also the other tuners have a more linear dyno curve. Have tried the Edge and Quad on my truck both are way better than Banks as they both perform as advertised. Quad being way better than the Edge. My Banks 6Gun was purchased through Extreme Diesel Performance in New Jersey. My GM dealer even said that they see all fooler boxes causing problems.The Banks being undetectable is also a flat out lie. If you blow the engine they can tell if a power adder has been used as well as with the tranny. Funny how Banks needs too perform damage control online in this forum. Funny how Quad relies on word of mouth advertisements.Sorry for the broken hearts ahead of time.The pda used to just stay on & go into power save mode. It would never shut off. It would advertise to theifs come take me.. I hated that it did stayed on when I was not parking at home. They also made it turn off automatic because the batteries in the pda were not lasting. It is better the way it is now. If you have had that many problems, they would have sent you a replacement, if you bought it directly through them. Did you talk to Jeff Barker about this? Who did you buy it from? Did you buy it from Banks directly a different vendor or ebay??? What levels are you draining the rails. Just level 7 or all of them? Are you draining the rails or is the defuels saving your tranny? I have had a 2 mpg increase also.

Well chvle66 you certainly sound like a spoiled brat to me. I could certainly afford to have someone install literally "a plug and play" system on my truck, but why? I can definitely say that I have no relation to Banks, I have just bought their products and been very pleased with them. Doesn't it seem odd to you that you are the only negative post here? If Bank's products were that bad, wouldn't others be saying the same thing as you. I like how you talk BS and say that you bought it and had it installed in NJ and had your truck towed to Banks twice! Do you realize that Banks is in CA? You have absolutely no credibility. Go back to verbally abusing your boyfriend....

Finally got my 6 gun on guys I like it alot. Especially with them dual exhausts. I was wondering what setting is best mpg setting 1 right?

I've had mine for 20,000 miles, bought from Banks directly. The only time I had a problem they sent me a new box, then I sent mine back for free. It turned out to be my truck so no problems yet knock on wood.

Finally got my 6 gun on guys I like it alot. Especially with them dual exhausts. I was wondering what setting is best mpg setting 1 right?


Level 1 would be your stock truck settings. On my truck level 2 & 4 seam to give me the best mileage. Put a couple of tank through each level. Some people say level 6 is best. Each truck is truely different... Enought it...

I can not tell you the history of the vehicle before I became involved with it but my experience with the 6gun was not good. I was going to buy a 2005 with the 6gun under the hood until the day that I was to write the cheque, the truck was spewing coolant out of the overflow. After a closer look the dealership mechanic told me that it had blown a head gasket so I told the dealership that I did not want the truck. The next day, I was talking the the mechanic and he then told me that when he was taking the truck for a roadtest that the temperature on the pyro guage had wrapped well past the 1600 point. I also had the opportunity to talk to the previous owner and he told me that the system was "professionaly installed". My question is where were the safety shutdowns, should the 6gun not shut down or limp the truck?
Like I said, I don't know the history of the truck before I was going to buy it but I can tell you that from my experience, I would not put the 6gun in my vehicle.

I did call banks several times. All power levels at full/ heavy throttle would drain the fuel rail. Also all power levels would cause the EGT alarm to go off with heavy/ full throttle. I called after i noticed each issue. For the bad cradle ports they suggested trying another port wich provided a temporary cure then another bad port. Regarding the PDA they actually said they have had alot of problems. As for the out of control egts I adjusted all settings constantly and with Banks tech support downloaded the older 1.0 firmware and never had any improvement.Banks tech said they are still learning about the LMM on one call lol because its so advanced. My truck actually had to be towed twice thanks to Banks.The bad egine harness connections were the last draw and it had to come off the truck. In hindesite there was just nothing that was good about it like it was from China and I was ripped off. Look at a dyno curve of the 6Gun it will make you laugh it does hit some peak#,s then huge reduction in power resulting in poor average#'s compared to other tuners.The dyno curve looks like a mountain range way high and way low.I really wanted this POS to work but it wasnt to be. Also the other tuners have a more linear dyno curve. Have tried the Edge and Quad on my truck both are way better than Banks as they both perform as advertised. Quad being way better than the Edge. My Banks 6Gun was purchased through Extreme Diesel Performance in New Jersey. My GM dealer even said that they see all fooler boxes causing problems.The Banks being undetectable is also a flat out lie. If you blow the engine they can tell if a power adder has been used as well as with the tranny. Funny how Banks needs too perform damage control online in this forum. Funny how Quad relies on word of mouth advertisements.Sorry for the broken hearts ahead of time.

Normally I would look further into your issues but it seems that your just in here to troll. You have never mentioned any problem like this in any way until this post here:
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3023684#post3023684
"When I purchased my LMM I installed the six gun with pda, brute force intake, MBRP filter back and was happy but wanted LLY like performance and mileage. Also the six gun would produce codes sometimes at full/heavy throttle." And that was 4 months ago. You sent no PM's to me to see about getting it fixed and now every post is you bashing Banks and nothing else.

Your story also seems to keep changing. first it's "I took it to the dealer" but made no mention of bringing it to us directly, but now you claim to have brought it to us. After checking I can find no history in our records of any truck coming in over the last 6 months with the problems your discribing. Also, if you brought it to us, why are you telling us that "i called regarding the other issues metioned and they said i could send it back to be tested, but i had lost faith in that system." If a customer has trouble with one of our tuners we do the R&R for free. There would be no charge to look it over. Your also saying here that you didn't tow it to us you towed it to the dealer "i was very let down and even had to pay towing and the dealer to figure it out." So which is it? I think we have another troll here and I'm going to have the mods look into this one.

I can not tell you the history of the vehicle before I became involved with it but my experience with the 6gun was not good. I was going to buy a 2005 with the 6gun under the hood until the day that I was to write the cheque, the truck was spewing coolant out of the overflow. After a closer look the dealership mechanic told me that it had blown a head gasket so I told the dealership that I did not want the truck. The next day, I was talking the the mechanic and he then told me that when he was taking the truck for a roadtest that the temperature on the pyro guage had wrapped well past the 1600 point. I also had the opportunity to talk to the previous owner and he told me that the system was "professionaly installed". My question is where were the safety shutdowns, should the 6gun not shut down or limp the truck?
Like I said, I don't know the history of the truck before I was going to buy it but I can tell you that from my experience, I would not put the 6gun in my vehicle.

If the EGT's climb above 1300 degrees the unit will reduce the engines power all the way back to stock if needed. On speed loader equipped trucks (on level 6) the EGT limit is 1550. Again if the temp limit is reached the six gun will back it down. Now if the six gun is stacked with anything all bets are off. The six gun can only control the fuel it's adding. Anything added to the ecm program wise the six gun has no control over.

I actually had never been on this or any truck forum before I purchased my 6-Gun w/PDA. I joined the forum because my Banks experience was so bad and wanted to find a trouble free product. This forum has been great as I have been able to sift through the different products on the market through others experiences. Its strange how some members become offended and defensive when someone like myself has a terrible experience with for instance the 6-Gun product by Banks.If the EGT's climb above 1300 degrees the unit will reduce the engines power all the way back to stock if needed. On speed loader equipped trucks (on level 6) the EGT limit is 1550. Again if the temp limit is reached the six gun will back it down. Now if the six gun is stacked with anything all bets are off. The six gun can only control the fuel it's adding. Anything added to the ecm program wise the six gun has no control over.

Thanks for your research Mr Barker but by having the truck towed to the dealer meant Chevrolet Dealership, I actually assumed that everyone knew that. I would not have the truck towed in to Banks or XDP. But I do appreciate you responding asap to descredit what I experienced. Who would take the time and energy to make all this stuff up? Why have others stated similar results? I understand damage control, but by trying to not recognize problems with a unit and attempting to shoot down any negative experience one has had you are insuring that someone like myself and all others that I know will never buy your products for life.
Normally I would look further into your issues but it seems that your just in here to troll. You have never mentioned any problem like this in any way until this post here:
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3023684#post3023684
"When I purchased my LMM I installed the six gun with pda, brute force intake, MBRP filter back and was happy but wanted LLY like performance and mileage. Also the six gun would produce codes sometimes at full/heavy throttle." And that was 4 months ago. You sent no PM's to me to see about getting it fixed and now every post is you bashing Banks and nothing else.

Your story also seems to keep changing. first it's "I took it to the dealer" but made no mention of bringing it to us directly, but now you claim to have brought it to us. After checking I can find no history in our records of any truck coming in over the last 6 months with the problems your discribing. Also, if you brought it to us, why are you telling us that "i called regarding the other issues metioned and they said i could send it back to be tested, but i had lost faith in that system." If a customer has trouble with one of our tuners we do the R&R for free. There would be no charge to look it over. Your also saying here that you didn't tow it to us you towed it to the dealer "i was very let down and even had to pay towing and the dealer to figure it out." So which is it? I think we have another troll here and I'm going to have the mods look into this one.

Well at least your posts are toned down a little bit. You may want to do yourself a favor and pull up a history of your posts. You dispute your own posts on a regular basis. I am not even sure that you know what the truth is.I do not think that there is product made that will not have an occassional issue. I would think that if you have customers with as much negative experiences as you say, even the "For Sale" posts here would be full of Banks equipment. Just the fact that they probably sell more than other companies, would suggest that even more of their products would be up for resale, but in fact during my search of those threads yesterday, there was fewer Banks items listed for resale than the other larger manufacturers.You are correct that this forum is great for people to learn, but try to keep it respectful and you may enjoy the experience better, I know the rest of us will.

Jeff Barker has always been helpful to my buddies & I. I think he is respectful to. The guy just started to jump on their products... Why did he not get on here & ask for help from Banks rather then tell different stories of what did or did not happen. People know companies monitor these forums. In my experience with talking to companies asking them for help & kind words to ask for helps goes so much farther then slamming a product... Also you need to buy directly from Banks or at least make sure you are working with a vendor that is an approved vendor from Banks. That company he bought it from should have been the one doing the exchange or helping him out.. Who even knows the true story. Did he even buy it new???

Jeff Barker has always been helpful to my buddies & I. I think he is respectful to. The guy just started to jump on their products... Why did he not get on here & ask for help from Banks rather then tell different stories of what did or did not happen. People know companies monitor these forums. In my experience with talking to companies asking them for help & kind words to ask for helps goes so much farther then slamming a product... Also you need to buy directly from Banks or at least make sure you are working with a vendor that is an approved vendor from Banks. That company he bought it from should have been the one doing the exchange or helping him out.. Who even knows the true story. Did he even buy it new???

FYI, my previous post was directed towards chvle66, not J-Barker, just in case that is what you thought. I did try quoting him, but I sent that from my phone and it must not have worked correctly.

Thanks for your research Mr Barker but by having the truck towed to the dealer meant Chevrolet Dealership, I actually assumed that everyone knew that. I would not have the truck towed in to Banks or XDP. But I do appreciate you responding asap to descredit what I experienced. Who would take the time and energy to make all this stuff up? Why have others stated similar results? I understand damage control, but by trying to not recognize problems with a unit and attempting to shoot down any negative experience one has had you are insuring that someone like myself and all others that I know will never buy your products for life.

That's the point. You haven't had the system on your truck in at least 4 months. Your not in here to have an issue fixed or trying to solve a problem. Your just in here to bash and troll. You have no intrest what the problem was nor any interest in informing others how to fix it. Your not posting anywhere else but in here and it's plainly obvious you changed your tuning system out MONTHS ago.

c'mon guys. don't respond to him. That's what he wants.

c'mon guys. don't respond to him. That's what he wants.

That is some signature!!!

Mr Barker how can I e-mail you some Banks dyno sheets. I would love to hear what you have to say about your 6-gun product. Seriously because I can not explain these results besides pos. Not trying to break hearts again but would like answers.That's the point. You haven't had the system on your truck in at least 4 months. Your not in here to have an issue fixed or trying to solve a problem. Your just in here to bash and troll. You have no intrest what the problem was nor any interest in informing others how to fix it. Your not posting anywhere else but in here and it's plainly obvious you changed your tuning system out MONTHS ago.

Mr Barker how can I e-mail you some Banks dyno sheets. I would love to hear what you have to say about your 6-gun product. Seriously because I can not explain these results besides pos. Not trying to break hearts again but would like answers.
Ok, take this to PM! This is accomplishing nothing out here on the board as of this moment.

I would get the Banks, their products are designed to not do damage to your truck.
Aren't they all. . . :)

If the EGT's climb above 1300 degrees the unit will reduce the engines power all the way back to stock if needed. On speed loader equipped trucks (on level 6) the EGT limit is 1550. Again if the temp limit is reached the six gun will back it down. Now if the six gun is stacked with anything all bets are off. The six gun can only control the fuel it's adding. Anything added to the ecm program wise the six gun has no control over.

More on the history of my experience. .
The mechanic did tell me that he had it set on 3 when he was on his road test.
I did have an opportunity to talk to the previous owner and he did tell me that it was "professionally installed" and that there was no other mods or stacked with anything else.

More on the history of my experience. .
The mechanic did tell me that he had it set on 3 when he was on his road test.
I did have an opportunity to talk to the previous owner and he did tell me that it was "professionally installed" and that there was no other mods or stacked with anything else.

Level 3 is a 38hp setting. If the truck hasn't been altered in any other way, and there's no boot leaks, there's no way it can generate 1600 degree exhaust temps.

I read thru this entire post and I find myself not one bit convinced that the original poster is giving any valuable data to the members of the board. This is strictly his opinion (which he is entitled to) and should stop bashing the system. he has already moved on to another system so there is no value added to the information here by arguing back and forth with jBarker. We all have our own thoughts and feelings about different systems and you all have stated those so for the sake of the board please let it go, thanks.

Oh and I will be one of the happy Banks system owners in good time I just have to stop spending money on my new 5/er to do it. Barker I will be in touch soon, hopefully. LOL

The Banks 6 gun is a great item. When I bought my truck I put the complete Banks big hoss package on and decided thats all I needed. It SAFELY gives you more power and if something goes wrong it goes into failsafe mode. It waits until the engine warms before adding power and it also cuts power if it overheats or your egt's go past a preset limit.

This convo can go on and on about Banks Vs PPE etc... The bottom line is this.

For SAFE power without voiding your warranty go with the Banks.

How many times has this been said? Many!

Once you decide you have outgrown the limits of the Banks unit, then you are in the realm of a built trans as your next step then EFI.

If someone is experiencing problems with their unit - All I can say its either a loose connection somewhere, you put the unit in failsafe mode, or you just did not install it right which is kinda hard to not get it right.

Banks puts a lot of money and time in testing these products. They have been around since I think 1970's and sell nearly $16,000,000 in yearly sales and about 200 employees.
What does that tell you?

If you are going to flame the banks product - do it in a PM. This stuff gets tiring seeing it all the time. If you are unsure of something - Ask Jeff Barker. He is one guy I can say who honestly and thoroughly knows the product inside and out.

If you would like to see the Banks 6-Gun dyno results of your beloved product and feel that you have answers. Feel free to provide e-mail address in private message. There has been no bashing only the experience of this Banks customer.The Banks 6 gun is a great item. When I bought my truck I put the complete Banks big hoss package on and decided thats all I needed. It SAFELY gives you more power and if something goes wrong it goes into failsafe mode. It waits until the engine warms before adding power and it also cuts power if it overheats or your egt's go past a preset limit.

This convo can go on and on about Banks Vs PPE etc... The bottom line is this.

For SAFE power without voiding your warranty go with the Banks.

How many times has this been said? Many!

Once you decide you have outgrown the limits of the Banks unit, then you are in the realm of a built trans as your next step then EFI.

If someone is experiencing problems with their unit - All I can say its either a loose connection somewhere, you put the unit in failsafe mode, or you just did not install it right which is kinda hard to not get it right.

Banks puts a lot of money and time in testing these products. They have been around since I think 1970's and sell nearly $16,000,000 in yearly sales and about 200 employees.
What does that tell you?

If you are going to flame the banks product - do it in a PM. This stuff gets tiring seeing it all the time. If you are unsure of something - Ask Jeff Barker. He is one guy I can say who honestly and thoroughly knows the product inside and out.

I’ve had the Banks w/pda for over 10 months now on my 08 lmm 3500. I like the fact that its user friendly, the pda is very easy to read and clear codes. I dislike the problem that ive had for 10 months… level 6 and sl will not work with the lmm. I thought all along that it was my brand new truck was the problem, this on going back to the dealership for diagnostic test after test. Found nothing wrong with the truck. I decided to get it dyno and my results answered my problems. The tuner defuels badly in between shifts on level 6 which cause it to bog out ( running out of fuel) a big burst of power, then no power, fuel rail pressure code constantly have to reset, trans slip constantly on for no reason, this happens a lot while cruising on the freeway. Egt probe always burnt out, the schematics on the dyno were up and down. I decided to remove the tuner and installed a different brand of power adder; I had it set at 135 hp and had no issues. No codes, no bogged out, constant power from the start, no hesitations..etc. Too bad that my ending results is to remove the tuner to leave my problems behind and move on. I could have left it on level 5 and deal with it, but that’s not the point, Level 6 and level SL is there for me to use and I am curious to use. Time to upgrade my Trans to ats, and ramp up on horse power. I thought I was the only one that had this issue, after reading chvell66,, he had the same similar problems. Well, thank you all for all your support in the past. I’m glad I have found my answers.

I will post my banks dyno run as soon as i dyno my new power adder .:)