After fiddling with the truck forever and switching parts around, i got a fresh bottle and replaced a couple parts with components from Michael (Super Diesel).

last october dyno day i ran a 536/1136 on a .78 jet.

today i ran two runs, 618.9/1240.4 and 610.0/1296.2 on a .78 jet.

only difference was different pump setup and bigger injectors.

before the injectors i pretty much cleaned the smoke up with the .78 jet. tonigt i still had lots of room to go. Hearing that thing come alive when i hit the NOS was something else..

Granted this isn't a record by any means, but i was surprised by what it did with only a .78 jet! It was definately a personal best for me..

Much thank to Steve Cole for his tuning, Michael Oaks for some NOS parts, and Ken Imler for his dyno time and experience. I'm quite fortunate to have someone like him local to me.

:ro) :ro) :ro) Keep it goin up Nick.

i just have to pack a spare pair of undershorts and i'll be ready to try some more...

thanks again Michael!

It seems like your occasional use of drugs is becoming more frequent.
I know......."you can stop any time you want to"......... right? ):h


Congrats on the great numbers. Have fun!:D

It seems like your occasional use of drugs is becoming more frequent.
I know......."you can stop any time you want to"......... right? ):h


Congrats on the great numbers. Have fun!:D
Yes i guess i have an addictive personality.. especially since my second bottle just showed up yesterday :think:

What were your times at the track?

Tim,

tonight was the first run on the dyno with the new setup. i haven't been to the track. before my best was a 13.2 on #2 only.

So you should be in the mid to low 12's

i guess we'll see.. i sure hope i can get low 12's but i'm not counting on anything until i get there... sure would be nice to knock a second off with nos but that sounds like a lot to me..

You should be in the mid12's at sea level. I hope not, but if you do good job. It sounds like there is some Dmax's coming after me down around here, we I'll see.:lol: i guess we'll see.. i sure hope i can get low 12's but i'm not counting on anything until i get there... sure would be nice to knock a second off with nos but that sounds like a lot to me..

why not come up to sac raceway.. we got a good 1/4 mi at sea level!

I've been thinking about it, i'm going to the redding pull's. I would like to get couple of guy's together (Doug, John, Guy etc. ) you know us So. Cal. guy's and go up for the weekend. Do you know of any Test and Tune days maybe for the end of next month? Friday night is not going to cut it. To long of a drive for a couple of hours.why not come up to sac raceway.. we got a good 1/4 mi at sea level!

Nick did you make a number 2,not in your shorts ,just a number 2 only run? At all?

Don't be bashful

:cool2:

Nice job Nick.............the bar keeps getting set higher and higher...........Glad to see more and more Dmax's crossing 600+ HP.......

T:) NY

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Congrats are in order here! Just think, you are just 200 hp and 300 ft tq from Super Michael.

Congrats on the number. Looks like a good pickup from the injectors....

:ro) just imagine that kind of power available at all times w/o having to turn on a bottle or refill it

Timdog,


What does "NT" mean when displayed on your window at the track???????? ):h

:ro) just imagine that kind of power available at all times w/o having to turn on a bottle or refill it
Well Mike, hows the new hair drier working?

Have u got any ##s yet?

That just mean's that's its a Nitrous/Truck

Congrats!

This is only my second time playing with the bottle. But I gotta say, diesels love the squeeze. Gas motors + nitrous? No more for me thanks. But the diesel behaves very well.

Except... How do you check the spark plugs to make sure you're not too lean? ;)

Platinum tiped plugs are real hard to read though:confused: I keep fearing that I'm going to misread it and whipe one of my cyntrifical cam lobes or bust hypoid valve retainer:eek:

Edit: Wouldt it be your 3rd time playing with it if you could keep from losing fuses?

Naw, by "second time", I mean I put the bottle on a 2000 Camaro with scary results. Swore I'd never play with it again, now I put it on my truck. Probably have run 4 bottles through it.

Oooooh. I thought you had been to the track on spray more than 2 times.

What size jet you running on the LiLY?

.070" with a "baby" solenoid. Just enough to pass smog testing. ;)

HONEST OFFICER! IT'S PART OF THE EMISSIONS EQUIPMENT! :eek:

step it up to a .090...

step it up to a .090...

The jet orifice and the solenoid only have 0.060" openings. :(

Besides, the LLY's do not have enough fuel to use as much N20 as the LB7's do.

I'm supprised to see you only ran a 78 originaly with just the Xtreme? I figured the Xtreme had more fuel available for it to clean up than that? Or were you still hazing pretty good?

Thats easy to fix the fuel issue Pat. And you are ready to break out the grill at the track):h

Be a man and run a .125 orifice solenoid with no jet in the line!!!:ro)

Be sure to run a -6 main line and a -4 line to the nozzle!

When you get use to that, multiply the setup by 2 and have the second stage come in at 20psi (1st stage on at WOT).:ro) :ro)

i'm guessing you've never shot much NOS at low boost before. why don't you try it and see what happens..



Be a man and run a .125 orifice solenoid with no jet in the line!!!:ro)

Be sure to run a -6 main line and a -4 line to the nozzle!

When you get use to that, multiply the setup by 2 and have the second stage come in at 20psi (1st stage on at WOT).:ro) :ro)

What happens?

And while your here, do you have any more of those 10mm X 1.5mm X 1/8" female fitting that you used to replace the vent screw for your fuel pressure guage. I checked my local supply house and he dosent even list them, he only had 10mm X 1.0mm or 12mm X 1.5mm.
Do you have a manufacturer name for the fitting, maybe?

Thx

DD

What happens?

And while your here, do you have any more of those 10mm X 1.5mm X 1/8" female fitting that you used to replace the vent screw for your fuel pressure guage. I checked my local supply house and he dosent even list them, he only had 10mm X 1.0mm or 12mm X 1.5mm.
Do you have a manufacturer name for the fitting, maybe?

Thx

DD
what happens is you blow the fire out and the motor doesn't like it:o: . can make funny sounds when it happens too..

What do you consider much nitrous at low boost?? .039 jet, .070 jet, .090 jet, 5 psi, 10psi????

hmm could it maybe it will ping like a b!@ch and sound like the crank it going to fall out the bottom. Or could it maybe make the motor fall right on it's face like it's going to shut off???

Reason I ask is because mine did both until I found where it wanted it.

also, is that to say you can't run more nitrous at higher boost/rpm levels??

Get the most (safely) out of your investment.....Thats the way I see it......

first time, lots of smoke but no boost yet with a .090 jet. second time .078 jet at 5lbs.. it didn't ping. first time it went to idle and puffed osme white smoke. second time it went BANG BANG.. i had the nos on a button so i got out of it real quick each time. third time i hit it when i saw 20psi on boost gauge and all was better....

no i think its the opposite.. don't run too much until you get the boost up and fuel's flowing..



also, is that to say you can't run more nitrous at higher boost/rpm levels??

Get the most (safely) out of your investment.....Thats the way I see it......

Exactly, the trick is to bring it in in stages, starting out with a small stage (small jet) set at low boost levels and as the boost gets up there, bring in more oxide with a bigger stage. A small shot of spray well help it spool up faster. then once the boost is up, hit it with more oxide. Then for the kicker, bring in a "d@mn good" hit when the rpms and the boost are up there.

Now you can run this all in one stage, but you will not be able to run as much oxide because you will be trading off (at what boost you bring it in and how much). The motor does not ingest the same amount of air at the same boost pressure at different RPMs so why try to induce the same amount of oxide throughout the boost and rpm range... 100% sure you'll go faster/quicker (traction permitting)

That’s all I’m saying....... not trying to start anything, just trying to make a point.


Just my thoughts.

Guess I better go back to the drawing board.

The best way to supply nitrous I would think would be to have a progressive solenoid that reads off the MAF to keep the rate of flow proportional to airflow.

Me? Just spray the sh^t in and hang on!

The problem with a progressive system is that the controller wears out the soleniods.The best way to supply nitrous I would think would be to have a progressive solenoid that reads off the MAF to keep the rate of flow proportional to airflow.

Me? Just spray the sh^t in and hang on!

Not like I will be running N2O anytime soon, I can not even get the fuely thingy majigy figured out but I thought I would ask a few questions anyways.

Diesel Power what % injectors are you running? You mentioned programing help from Steve, is that the standard Extreme or did he hook you up with a N20 program?

Couldn't have said it better myself McRat. No time to dilly dally around wasting time. It only take a fraction of a second any way from starting to full boil. No one needs that fraction of a second any way because you spend it building boost. I want my system to hit hard off the line to get my truck moving for faster times at the track any way. Maybe thats not the way the buicks do it though. OPPS, sorry my head was in the getto again.

LOL, good one Michael.

Hit just as hard as you want to get the truck moving, but you can't honestly think that’s all you can hit it with do you???

I know I know, then you might run into other issues like blown head gaskets and such. I think "The TRULY smart man" would figure out that there many other better ways to skin a cat and skin it faster (more efficiently) but then again, this might be to difficult for a simple man.

When you live in the ghetto, you learn to adapt.

And Tim, it depends what plungers are in the solenoids as to how long they will last. I have guys running progressive systems (in the "other fuel" industry) that have been running for years without any problems.

I WASN'T TRYING TO BASH WHAT YOU SAID TIM, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW WHERE THE ISSUES WHERE.

before the injectors i pretty much cleaned the smoke up with the .78 jet.
wonder why a .070 cleaned mine up all the way? considering that we are roughly at similiar elevations?

i don't know... all our trucks have their differences..

Never said anything about just hitting with one thing did I? Are you going to set some examples or some thing for us? Maybe you can't hit yours as hard because of traction issues. Softer initial flow would probably be key for the 2WDs. Lets see if one of the real experts will chime in here. BMDmax, has the experience with the 2WDs set up and what works best for them. I know I can break all 6 of my tires loose when I launch for just a moment. Sure is wicked. I like the fast launch. Oh by the way, I will hit it as hard as I want. Do you think I haven't been working on more stuff since last year?

My system is a bit different. I wanted that smooth progressive hit without a controller and multiple solenoids. One extra line and jet, and then some tuning at the track and I had it. One little jet, one big jet, one pre, one post CAC.

Very simple system and it cleans up all my smoke with ease...

The true test of a N20 system IMO is how many MPH you gain in the 1/4mi and how much your ET drops. No matter how much, or what technique you use to inject, the goal is in the effect. Sure there are other variables like traction and trans shifting, but the proof is in the pudding.

I drop 0.7 seconds and gain 8 mph. Or effectively about 75rwhp.

I dropped 0.5 seconds and picked up 6mph with a 60 jet

All I'm saying is that if you reach that limit where you cant run a bigger jet due to traction limitations (assuming you are hitting it in the right hole...uuhhh I mean spot), dont assume thats all the oxide she'll take. In basic terms that all I'm saying.

Yes, it may get more complicated, but it got more complicated once we started tryin to go faster and quicker. I mean we took the truck out stock, then added a module, exhaust and an intake. Then we stacked a programmer and then decided to add some oxide. Then we added LP, slicks, trans, water/meth, lift pump, fuel pickup, etc.

Sounds like we started to make things complicated a while back. Why would making our nitrous a 2 or 3 or 4 stage make it more complicated???

When do you guys hit the NOS? I used to hit the NOS when the truck started moving... now i started hitting the NOS AT the Same time as the petal goes down. and the truck Loved IT! gained a tenth in 1/8th mile! IM running a .82 jet.. anyone know how much the NOS blue fogger nozzle can flow?

Unless modified, the NOS blue single fan nozzle will only flow up to a .081 jet, same as the Edelbrock single spray nozzle. Went out and measured them to be sure.

Also, the NOS "A" Fogger nozzle (fan spray tip) can be used for a 2 stage (flow nitrous thru both openings) will flow a .096 jet in thru the fuel port and a .063 thru the nitrous port. With both ports flowing that would be equal to a single .115 jet.

There are brass fan nozzle that flow .100- .110 I can't remember.Unless modified, the NOS blue single fan nozzle will only flow up to a .081 jet, same as the Edelbrock single spray nozzle. Went out and measured them to be sure.

Also, the NOS "A" Fogger nozzle (fan spray tip) can be used for a 2 stage (flow nitrous thru both openings) will flow a .096 jet in thru the fuel port and a .063 thru the nitrous port. With both ports flowing that would be equal to a single .115 jet.