http://blogs.carpoint.ca/2009/01/a-ride-fit-for-the-president-cadillac-presidential-limousine.html (http://blogs.carpoint.ca/2009/01/a-ride-fit-for-the-president-cadillac-presidential-limousine.html)
Check out what they list as the powerplant. Either misinformation or they used a mechanical pump version in case of electro magnetic radiation.

A 6.5 in Nobama's limo. I highly doubt that Nobama would own anything with a "dirty" old IDI diesel.

Don't let him join the forum!.......If he logs on, he's going on my ignore list!

6.5TD in a brand new Cadillac, Somebody is going to have issues passing emissions!!!

its just suggested that it has a 6.5 in it. I highly doubt it though

Boy the Stealer is gonna have fun with this one. I hope he's got somebody on his staff that can turn wrenches because he's gonna need it.

A 6.5 in Nobama's limo. I highly doubt that Nobama would own anything with a "dirty" old IDI diesel.

Thanks jackass. I lagughed so hard, I shot be3er out my nose onto my wo.,3rk laptop and nowe the keyboard is acting wier1d.

:D

Thanks jackass. I lagughed so hard, I shot be3er out my nose onto my wo.,3rk laptop and nowe the keyboard is acting wier1d.

:D

ROFL. I'm sorry monel.

http://jalopnik.com/5135652/obamas-new-presidential-limo-the-features?skyline=true&s=i#viewcomments

Here is another article that says the same thing , I did notice that it is still in European terms though, may not be up to date.

I can see the news now: President Killed in Car Bombing Attack Due to PMD Failure

The better keep a backup PMD :p:

suggest them to get rid of the ds4 and put in a db2---

They hare putting a 6.5 in there? Man, they must really want the guy killed. Obama will be sportin the 2 stroke oil and remote PMDs before long.

Wouldn't suprise me one bit if it's an MFI 6.5, since they're not vulnerable to EMP. Probably a P400.

Mfi?

Mfi?
Mechanical Fuel Injection

What they don't show you is the big brother GMC that will be following it, check this bad boy out:
http://jalopnik.com/5134488/presidential-gatling-gun+equipped-suburban-badder-than-new-cadillac-limo

What they don't show you is the big brother GMC that will be following it, check this bad boy out:
http://jalopnik.com/5134488/presidential-gatling-gun+equipped-suburban-badder-than-new-cadillac-limo

haha hmmm they just made that up and took come video from CBS a while ago, and made up a story about that following the president.

Join Date: Jan 2009

Doesn't look like you'll last long here... You just joined and already complaining? not a good sign...

And I still think the caddy will NOT have a 6.5 in it.

http://jalopnik.com/5135652/obamas-new-presidential-limo-the-features?skyline=true&s=i#viewcomments

Here is another article that says the same thing , I did notice that it is still in European terms though, may not be up to date.

I can see the news now: President Killed in Car Bombing Attack Due to PMD Failure
That is freaking funny !!!!! How true. " WTF I was going 65 MPH and it just cut off"

i'll admit my statement was over the line. I'll edit it out if it makes people feel better. Next time take it up in a PM, and not in the open forums. Thread cleaned up.

This story has been on all message boards for a few days now, all indication is that it is a 6.5 engine, which sure seems like an odd thing, but some have surmised that this is in fact a military vehicle, and the 6.5 is still the engine of choice for the military, so who knows, may be true.

Hope he joins the forum, he and Davey boy will no doubt get along just fine...

Hope he joins the forum, he and Davey boy will no doubt get along just fine...

:shake: That last part wasn't needed at all.

He is a sitting duck.

:shake: That last part wasn't needed at all.

You called your President a what?

And you criticize my comment?

You called your President a what?

And you criticize my comment?


my comment was edited out. Keep poking me, maybe I'll do a trick, but I guarantee you won't like it.

You called your President a what?

And you criticize my comment?

Can't leave well enough alone, eh? What is it with you poking Dave? If I were him, I'd have banned your Censored long ago.

X2

my comment was edited out. Keep poking me, maybe I'll do a trick, but I guarantee you won't like it.

:shake: That last part wasn't needed at all.

I saw your original, un-edited post. WTF, turnabout is fair play, eh? The rebuttal was no where near as unnecessary as your original was.
Why edit it out if that's how you feel? :eek:
Ted

I saw your original, un-edited post. WTF, turnabout is fair play, eh? The rebuttal was no where near as unnecessary as your original was.
Why edit it out if that's how you feel? :eek:
Ted

For the same reason your post would get edited if I reported it saying it insulted me.

I saw your original, un-edited post. WTF, turnabout is fair play, eh? The rebuttal was no where near as unnecessary as your original was.
Why edit it out if that's how you feel? :eek:
Ted

Because it seems that i've offended a few people. So i removed it. Its really just that simple.

For the same reason your post would get edited if I reported it saying it insulted me.


No one reported it, like they should have, or sent me a PM telling me to remove it because it was offensive. I'll admit I was heated when I wrote that, and after seeing it I removed it. It's that simple.

Because it seems that i've offended a few people. So i removed it. Its really just that simple.

You should be more careful then. :cool: After all, as a moderator, the first one you should monitor is yourself.
I believe your original comment would be acceptable in the political sction.
Ted

I don't see anything about the cup holder??? can it fit a little jon cup? hahahaha

You should be more careful then. :cool: After all, as a moderator, the first one you should monitor is yourself.
I believe your original comment would be acceptable in the political sction.
Ted


Yes i'm aware.

my comment was edited out. Keep poking me, maybe I'll do a trick, but I guarantee you won't like it.

Your comment was not edited out when I posted.

post removed

Suggestion: Take the pissin' match somewhere else and let's get back to discussing the president's limo. :confuzeld

Your comment was not edited out when I posted.


Well it is now. Are you going to drop it or are you going to force the staff to act? Your call.

my comment was edited out. Keep poking me, maybe I'll do a trick, but I guarantee you won't like it.
Do Monel a favour, edit post #7, now he seems to have a strange sense of humour. I think they call this the "Butterfly Effect":) Leo

Moving on .........

I really like hearing that they used a 6.5, though I have to admit I'm amazed. What's with the max speed of 62 mph? It can't weigh that much, a 6.5 will move 15,000 lbs. of truck and trailer 70 mph without too much trouble, why can't this car move faster?

Looks like Bob stopped talking finally ;).

Well it is now. Are you going to drop it or are you going to force the staff to act? Your call.

How about we all just let the off topic die and bring this back to topic.

Tony

Looks like Bob stopped talking finally ;).

Wonder why? :rolleyes:;)

Moving on .........

I really like hearing that they used a 6.5, though I have to admit I'm amazed. What's with the max speed of 62 mph? It can't weigh that much, a 6.5 will move 15,000 lbs. of truck and trailer 70 mph without too much trouble, why can't this car move faster?

The last pres limo I heard of had solid wheels-tires,10,000 crash bumpers, 150 gal fuel tank, 454 with carb + armor

The only thing I can figure is for some reason they've got it geared so low it redlines at that speed. Still doesn't make sense to me.

it is made into a battering ram, rolling bom shelter.

Yea, I bet that machine rolls over the scales at well over 13,000 lbs. jeeeez. I don't know why they would put a 6.5 in that... the LBZ 6.6 would be my first choice. That thing would probably go over 100 with that too.

nucks can kill a ecm

should the 6.5 be more reliable and trustable than we guess?

keeping in mind that of course, this one should have receive special improvements and attentions---

sure it gets an ******* turbo inside :D

What kind of transmission do you guys think it would have? Would an Allison 1000 bolt up to it?

Maybe Barack can get DARPA started on a reliable PMD.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/B-6-VIP-ARMOR-Truck-w-Mobile-Office-Bathrm-BAR-TV_W0QQitemZ290288748609QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMilitar y_Vehicles?hash=item290288748609&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A4%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

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WOW that seems like a bit of overkill to me, he basically has a bomb proof motor home.

What kind of transmission do you guys think it would have? Would an Allison 1000 bolt up to it?
if they did use the 6.5 it would most likley have a db2 and a turbo 400.

Seems like a lot of misinformation regarding this limo and we probably won't know any of the real details of it for years. I had posted an article awhile back from Fox News that it "was thought" to have the new 4.5. Although, with little actual real world use of the 4.5, one would think the gremlins still exist in that powertrain.
Who knows, maybe GM spent some time here to figure out how to make the 6.5 run right...lol.

Moving on .........

I really like hearing that they used a 6.5, though I have to admit I'm amazed. What's with the max speed of 62 mph? It can't weigh that much, a 6.5 will move 15,000 lbs. of truck and trailer 70 mph without too much trouble, why can't this car move faster?

Perhaps really low gear ratio?

i can see it being a mechanical injection 6.5 with a mechanical TH-300 thats been beefed up, all electronics in the presidential vehicles are non essential, and the starting system contains no computers usually. these things also weigh enough on their own to require a heavy power plant. think of it this way...the limo's are designed to withstand a bomb, two hits from a stinger/RPG, small arms fire, heavy arms fire, AP rounds, and grenades...i would THINK that would be pretty freaking heavy. and a duramax could easily be killed by a simple EMP device

All military hummers run the 6.5 and when he is over seas the limo goes with him so the military can fix the limo if it is broken. I think the two suburbans have 6.5 as well. My .02

It may have the military version of the 6.5TD. I have been using the military version of the 6.5TD since 2000 and never had any problems motor wise.

I bet it is a 6.5 also. It DOES make alot of sense. Too much electronics and shit to go wrong with, or get *****ed with on a duramax, of either type (6.6 or 4.5). And the US government does like to use the 6.5s. From what ive seen it appears to me that they even took the time and effort to swap out alot the 6.2s for 6.5s in hummers and tanks and stuff. This is what i have heard, browsing around government surplus sites and stuff...

It's built on a GM Topkick platform, probably has truck brakes and drive line too.

Richard

it might be based on a top kick body/frame, but i am willing to bet it doesn't use topkick brakes(DOT 3/4 fluid) I'm willing to bet it uses HSMO or Silicone Fluid....which would be consistent with the military styling, it probably also doesn't use very much plastic underneath, or anything else that burns easily....believe me it has more in common with a hummer than a top kick

It's built on a GM Topkick platform, probably has truck brakes and drive line too.

Richard

Yes, you are correct GM Topkick platform, and its armor to the hilt. I saw the engine its not a diesel, sorry guys, it's a 8.1L workhorse. It weighs tons and it's a slug. But, like somebody said, it's a rolling bomb shelter battery ramming vehicle. Lots of Escalade parts too, Its pure custom, built just for the big O. How do I know? Well, you guys know.

....believe me it has more in common with a hummer than a top kick

Yup!

well there we go...that shut us all up....don't ya love speculation... :p:

I still bet its a diesel. Its too easy to ***** with a gas motor. Altho the 8mpg would be right on with the 8.1 :D Who knows, tho. They dont offer the 8.1 anymore, atleast not in 2500 and 3500 series trucks. Dont offer the 6.5 in those trucks anymore either, but they are still made since there is alot of demand for them. People like us, and the goverment. The government is probably their biggest 6.5 customer. lol! :)

Maybe, will it make 8 mpg. No cats, and no it doesn't meet emissions.

It makes more sense to me that there's an 8.1L gasser under the hood than a 6.5L diesel because the 8.1L gasser is one of the engine options for the GM Topkick platform that the limo is built on.

The government is probably their biggest 6.5 customer. lol! :)
The government/military have vehicles that will run on every type of fuel. Propane, white gas, diesel, you name it, they got it. Yes, they are still using the 6.5L in the HumV. Rumor has it that its about to change tho.

i think all of you got it all wrong. this is nobamas new ride.http://by107w.bay107.mail.live.com/mail/SafeRedirect.aspx?hm__tg=http://64.4.51.249/***/GetAttachment.aspx&hm__qs=file%3d9cc23e1d-fe66-462b-839d-f59a9081bdd3.jpg%26ct%3daW1hZ2UvanBlZw_3d_3d%26nam e%3dQVRUNzE0ODIuanBn%26inline%3d0%26rfc%3d0%26empt y%3dFalse%26imgsrc%3dcid%253aC7BA30AD971F4224B10FE 7DD249C5BF0%2540COUNTER&oneredir=1&ip=10.1.106.204&d=d1357&mf=0&a=01_c449c079929b75d78383ca8fa30993e439c744a092987 5d99208aaf1c6c67345rong

An 8.1 that gets 8 mpg in that heavy thing, it barely got 8 in the pickups, it would get about 2 mpg.
I have to say that you guys are all wrong, it runs on pixie dust, something no terrorist can mess with.

it might be based on a top kick body/frame, but i am willing to bet it doesn't use topkick brakes

It rolls on Goodyear Regional RHS tires, size 285/70R19.5, a size that would be available on a Topkick platform. Stands to reason the brakes would come from the same platform of parts.

Richard

Hopefully Obama will become a member of our forum and order a Turbo Master, Chip and PMD isolator from Heath :)

Hopefully Obama will become a member of our forum and order a Turbo Master, Chip and PMD isolator from Heath :)

do you think he might also add the hydraulic suspension, chrome wheels, bling bling exhaust tips, and a couple of 20" subs to the ride? :rolleyes:

How many times has it been mentioned that if it is a 6.5, it is NOT electronic? So why do people keep saying he needs to buy a remote PMD and chip?

It was established earlier in the thread that it is not a 6.5, current discussion has it to be an 8.1 gasser.

How many times has it been mentioned that if it is a 6.5, it is NOT electronic? So why do people keep saying he needs to buy a remote PMD and chip?

Because it is the U.S. Government at work. They'll probably also require an "Unleaded Fuel Only" sticker on the fuel fill, and a "Stand Clear of Turbine When Engine is Running" sticker on the hood. Why? Because MIL Spec 57934-05671.553 says it has to be that way.

So why do we even have this thread still going?

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/K/e/1/obama_tickle_me.jpg (http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/K/e/1/obama_tickle_me.jpg)

i doubt theyd use a gas motor. We determined 6.5L was more likely. Just because one person says they think its a 8.1 instead of a 6.5 doesnt mean that is the case. How often do government vehicles run on gasoline?

Guys, I don't think the G-men want us to know what the motor is, they want to keep us guessing.

How many times has it been mentioned that if it is a 6.5, it is NOT electronic? So why do people keep saying he needs to buy a remote PMD and chip?

Whoa there sport not all of us reads every single response. :)

Whoa there sport not all of us reads every single response. :)

And neither do I (in a thread like this), but it was mentioned many, many times.:D;)

he should be driving a hybrid, not a gas guzzler. liberal hyocrate!

he should be driving a hybrid, not a gas guzzler. liberal hyocrate!

Is "hyocrate" a new term you designed to fit Obama's style? I've never heard that word used, what does it mean? :confused:

he should be driving a hybrid, not a gas guzzler. liberal hyocrate!

But he can always say he runs on Bio-D which is just as good as a hybrid for the enviroment i thinks?

Yeah but what about if the thing gets a boost problem one time. I cant imagine what the media will say if they see it taking off with black smoke shooting out of the tailpipe. :D:rolleyes:

Yeah but what about if the thing gets a boost problem one time. I cant imagine what the media will say if they see it taking off with black smoke shooting out of the tailpipe. :D:rolleyes:

Just make for a better pic and the hero leaves in a cloud of smoke :eek::D :saluteusa: Ya know I use to live in Hollywood Ca and loved to smoke the pop when they where standing on the curb hunting celebs. I think it would be great to see the pres smoke the media

Just make for a better pic and the hero leaves in a cloud of smoke :eek::D :saluteusa: Ya know I use to live in Hollywood Ca and loved to smoke the pop when they where standing on the curb hunting celebs. I think it would be great to see the pres smoke the media


Haaa i know what you mean, makes me kind of wish i had a chip, or that "black smoke on demand" that someone did a few weeks back. Or... one of those sweet train air horns. Or.. maybe i could just grow up :) hahaha

Guys, I don't think the G-men want us to know what the motor is, they want to keep us guessing.I think it's working.

You guys are all wrong. It's got a Honda VTEC on each wheel... total of (197x4)=788 HP, runs on ethanol-blend E85

You guys are all wrong. It's got a Honda VTEC on each wheel... total of (197x4)=788 HP, runs on ethanol-blend E85

HA HA thats great, are sure a VTEC can even muster 197 horses?

HA HA thats great, are sure a VTEC can even muster 197 horses?

Drop the 1, thats more like it. :D

Nope. 197 HP

http://awurl.com/tgeJj6WCq

And yes, I'm kidding about the 4 engines... there was so much OTHER misinformation, raw speculation, and plain old WAG in this thread, I thought I would add to it.

You guys are all wrong. It's got a Honda VTEC on each wheel... total of (197x4)=788 HP, runs on ethanol-blend E85


:rotflmao: yet again Jim, you always make me laugh. :D

Nope. 197 HP

http://awurl.com/tgeJj6WCq

It was just a joke :P

Holy sheet, those civics weigh nearly 3000 lbs. My '87 GMC only weighs 1000lbs more!

Holy sheet, those civics weigh nearly 3000 lbs. My '87 GMC only weighs 1000lbs more!

That's some good old Japanese engineering.

That's some good old Japanese engineering.

im more of a fan of japanese styling.
just look at the lexus, now look at the benz. hrmmm . whered they get those lines from? lol.
My dad used to be in the tool industry and he told me if they ever wanted to cheaply mass produce something they would just bring it to japan, they were the masters of copy.

im more of a fan of japanese styling.
just look at the lexus, now look at the benz. hrmmm . whered they get those lines from? lol.
My dad used to be in the tool industry and he told me if they ever wanted to cheaply mass produce something they would just bring it to japan, they were the masters of copy.

I am in favor of copying if it ended up improving it. I am an engineer. Why start from scratch. Most us company have NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome. Look at GM, try to innovate something and could not sell them or keep breaking down. Now asking for gov't bailout.

I am in favor of copying if it ended up improving it. I am an engineer. Why start from scratch. Most us company have NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome. Look at GM, try to innovate something and could not sell them or keep breaking down. Now asking for gov't bailout.

Oh i fully agree , just wanted to point it out. Not a big fan of the styling of some japanese cars, but I have to say they run like bastards. Never used to be a fan of hondas then my brother picked up an acura rsx-s. beat the shit out of that thing (literally) ran it on synthetic since new, and it never missed a beat. All original to 120,000k and it still ran like a champ. made a believer out of me thats for sure