tell me if you think these pumps would work, i dont expect them to last for ever, but thats a damn good price for 140gph.

summit brand
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2DG3136&N=700+4294839053+4294836965+115&autoview=sku

trick flow
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=TFS%2D25003&N=700+4294839053+4294836965+115&autoview=sku

i little more expensive for holley
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HLY%2D12%2D815%2D1&N=700+4294839053+4294836965+115&autoview=sku


i know they arent rated for diesel but, is diesel realy harder on stuff then gas? i run 2 stroke oil in my fuel also, maybe that would help...

why not just get a ppe or edelbrock 1792 pump and be done with it. I hate spending money twice for something. They're only a little bit more and they are designed to work for our application.

ppe is 279.99

I got my lift pump off ebay. $50 if i remember right. NEW in box 140 gph with adjustable pressure spring. Not had any codes since

because i dont have that much money to spend on a fuel pump...

I got my lift pump off ebay. $50 if i remember right. NEW in box 140 gph with adjustable pressure spring. Not had any codes since

whats it made by, does it work good?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ProComp-Electric-Fuel-Blue-Pump-140gph-Sbc-bbc-ford_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a 2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q 3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZite m370139226766QQitemZ370139226766QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ 5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories like this?

http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=1361550568&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336116667&toolid=10001 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ProComp-Electric-Fuel-Blue-Pump-140gph-Sbc-bbc-ford_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a 2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q 3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZite m370139226766QQitemZ370139226766QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ 5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5336116667&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2FProC omp-Electric-Fuel-Blue-Pump-140gph-Sbc-bbc-ford_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a 2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q 3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZite m370139226766QQitemZ370139226766QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ 5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories) like this?

I dunno if you can use that pump with diesel??

i dont think your supposed to use any of them with diesel, which is why i posted a thread about it. is diesel really harder on a pump then gas, or is it just made out that way so diesel "lift pumps" can be priced much higher?

Well if you dont have the money to spend on a pump at the moment that is compatible with diesel fuel Id keep saving a little while longer. I had a holley pump and it left me stranded one night not to long ago on the side of the road. Calling the tow truck in -4 temperatures at 2:30am and paying a $175 dollar tow bill wasnt a very good feeling.

Yes, they will work just fine, I ran a holley blue pump (15psi) on mine. I was even using it to pump vegetable oil, the only problem I had was in the cold up here in MN. So it should work fine unless it starts to freeze down there, Id go for the $50 elcheeepo one

well, thats 2 people that use gas pumps with good results... good enough for me, i might as well try it out for $50. i think im gonna try to make a bypass setup with some fittings and a check valve as well, so a broken pump wont leave me stranded / i wont have excessive fuel pressure on my economy tune.

I agree with HeavyHD, wait and save so you can buy a better pump. Its not fun doing something twice on these trucks.

the summit, trick flow, and pro comp(ebay) all look EXACTLY the same... i think they're just re badged pro comps. im gonna try the eBay cheapo out, and if it fails, then il get a higher quality lift pump. it will hold me over until i can afford a nice one.

If your worried about being left stranded then but a bypass with a check valve. I put a swing check valve in mine. It's all brass and you can find them in about any plumbing department. I got two 1/2 inch thread to 1/2 inch barb hose fittings to screw into the check valve. Cost is about $10 for all three parts. I ran a carter pump hp4600 for a year and put 25,000 miles on it and the only reason it's shot is my truck gelled up and I didn't have it hooked to my hobs switch and it burned up running pretty much all day with 911 and another addiative to keep it running. I bypassed my hobs switch for about 7 months so it ran all the time with alot of ideling. I myself just bought a pro comp 140gph 9-14psi pump for $60 to my door. I thought what the hell I'll try it as it flows 120gph at 9psi which is what it's set at when you get it. I hooked everything back up to my hobs switch so it will only run when my truck see 12psi of boost or more and shuts back off at anything below it. I feel there is no need to run any electric motor pump all the time as it will eventually wear out.

yea, the bypass setup sounds like a good idea. i plan on just running it on a toggle switch.

i was thinking, dsp5 programing allows an output doesn't it? could i run it off that?

I wouldn't know about the dsp5 switch as lbz can't have them:mad: Yeah just put the bypass in and no worries on ever getting stalled from a lift pump going bad.

you can uses 6.5 lift pump it is under a hundred.

why not just get a ppe or edelbrock 1792 pump and be done with it. I hate spending money twice for something. They're only a little bit more and they are designed to work for our application.

ppe is 279.99



x2

The 1792 requires an additional regulator doesent it?

Will post pictures of my install when i get back to UK. Got a propane kit to finish off and jumper cable install

you can uses 6.5 lift pump it is under a hundred.
That is what i have.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ISB-24-VALVE-DODGE-DIESEL-LIFT-PUMP!-CUMMINS!-NIB!-_W0QQitemZ200296215707QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ2009010 7?IMSfp=TL090107142009r17916

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http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=1207611920&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336116667&toolid=10001 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ISB-24-VALVE-DODGE-DIESEL-LIFT-PUMP!-CUMMINS!-NIB!-_W0QQitemZ200296215707QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ2009010 7?IMSfp=TL090107142009r17916 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5336116667&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2FISB-24-VALVE-DODGE-DIESEL-LIFT-PUMP%21-CUMMINS%21-NIB%21-_W0QQitemZ200296215707QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ2009010 7%3FIMSfp%3DTL090107142009r17916)

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Thats a carter pump or it's made by carter as they are identical. I belive if its a replacement for the stock one on the Dodges it moves only 75 or so gph.

That is what i have.
You guys running 6.5 pumps have any pics?

tell me if you think these pumps would work, i dont expect them to last for ever, but thats a damn good price for 140gph.

summit brand
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2DG3136&N=700+4294839053+4294836965+115&autoview=sku

trick flow
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=TFS%2D25003&N=700+4294839053+4294836965+115&autoview=sku

i little more expensive for holley
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HLY%2D12%2D815%2D1&N=700+4294839053+4294836965+115&autoview=sku


i know they arent rated for diesel but, is diesel realy harder on stuff then gas? i run 2 stroke oil in my fuel also, maybe that would help...

I tried one of those holley pumps, lasted about three weeks and siezed up. I don't know what the diesel does to them but they will not work with diesel.

You guys running 6.5 pumps have any pics?
X 2. They arent flow through though. Id like one that is flow through.

If those Holley are rated for Marine Service diesel included that's sick if they crap out that fast from Low Sulpher fuel used on road. The hi sulpher fuel use to work in them good in boats. I sure would be mad at Holley if my boat quit with that junk in it.

I have had two edelbrocks and one PPE right now I have a 6.5L pump and I think its about to go out on me can't hold more then 3 psi of pressure. I am saving up to get a airdog raptor pump. Wish I would of just done that in the first place but I was like you and thought I would save some money and get one of the cheap ones but in the long run it didn't save me any money

Go FASS use AN10 fittings. Nice work and finished kit that way. I learned with the other. Fass can put the ass behind their stuff. All I had to see were the ones that don't work from above guys and it's clear.

To those recommending the 1792 edelbrock: didn't you see the big bold leters at the bottom of the description that says "Warranty will be void if used with diesel fuel."? Hmmm...

Anyone interested in running one out of a 6.5 they work great. Mine holds a 3000 uS pulse width at approximately 23-24K PSI (This produced 525 HP), has done for 2 years, and they are 100% flow through so if they quit working you're not stranded. If you are worried about them not flowing enough then double them up, run them side by side and it will be more flow than the stock CP3 can produce, and you'll STILL be at a lower price than any of the big name "diesel lift pumps."

Just my .02 worth, I simply can't bring myself to spend that much money on a re-badged pump from someone else thats just got the price jacked up by 50%.

Anyone interested in running one out of a 6.5 they work great. Mine holds a 3000 uS pulse width at approximately 23-24K PSI (This produced 525 HP), has done for 2 years, and they are 100% flow through so if they quit working you're not stranded. If you are worried about them not flowing enough then double them up, run them side by side and it will be more flow than the stock CP3 can produce, and you'll STILL be at a lower price than any of the big name "diesel lift pumps."


Thanks for the tip Mike. Got ant pics of the plumbing? What about pressure at Idle? & WOT?

This may be right up my alley. Cant bring myself to spend $500+ on a lift pump, but want one to pair with an aux filter.

Anyone interested in running one out of a 6.5 they work great. Mine holds a 3000 uS pulse width at approximately 23-24K PSI (This produced 525 HP), has done for 2 years, and they are 100% flow through so if they quit working you're not stranded. If you are worried about them not flowing enough then double them up, run them side by side and it will be more flow than the stock CP3 can produce, and you'll STILL be at a lower price than any of the big name "diesel lift pumps."

Just my .02 worth, I simply can't bring myself to spend that much money on a re-badged pump from someone else thats just got the price jacked up by 50%.

Plus you get the satisfaction of putting it together yourself!

With the flow through design, could you put two inline with each other and wire them up so that you flip a switch when you need the extra fuel or is it best to "T" the fuel line and run them side by side?

Somebody has the 6.5 lift pump on ebay for $90 shipped. Seems like the cheapest that I could find. Anybody know of where they may be cheaper?

Plus you get the satisfaction of putting it together yourself!

With the flow through design, could you put two inline with each other and wire them up so that you flip a switch when you need the extra fuel or is it best to "T" the fuel line and run them side by side?

Somebody has the 6.5 lift pump on ebay for $90 shipped. Seems like the cheapest that I could find. Anybody know of where they may be cheaper?

To compound the flow, you would have to split the fuel line with T's and run them in parallel. If you run them in series, or end to end, you won't increase the total flow volume, but will increase the pressure.

what psi will one 6.5 pump make?

about 7 PSI

Bump for install pics!

For the guys that are running Holley pumps, what o-rings are you replacing the factory Holley o-rings with so they'll be "diesel proof"?

Are these the style of pumps you guys are referring to for the 6.5 pumps?

CARTER Part # P74143 http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/MoreInfo2.png In Line Fuel Pumphttp://info.rockauto.com/getimage/getimage.php?imagekey=296497&imageurl=http%3A//info.rockauto.com/Carter/P74143_TOP.jpg
$64.79Add to Cart http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/AddToCart2.pngAIRTEX Part # E3309 http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/MoreInfo2.png Electric Fuel Pump
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$67.79Add to Cart http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/AddToCart2.pngDELPHI Part # HFP921 http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/MoreInfo2.png Fuel Lift Pump
Frame Mounted (Only 1 Remaining)http://info.rockauto.com/getimage/getimage.php?imagekey=1830666&imageurl=http%3A//info.rockauto.com/Delphi/HFP921_Primary_Large_NA.jpg
$73.79Add to Cart http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/AddToCart2.pngDELPHI Part # FD0031 http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/MoreInfo2.png {#FD003111B1}http://info.rockauto.com/getimage/getimage.php?imagekey=1112692&imageurl=http%3A//info.rockauto.com/Delphi/FD0031_ANG.jpg
$79.79Add to Cart http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/AddToCart2.pngACDELCO Part # EP309 http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/MoreInfo2.png {#1996, 1997, 1998, 25117340} FRAME MOUNTED
PUMP,FUEL (ELEC) FRAME MTD

about 7 PSI
10-15 psi 32 gph just looked them up on the napa site

i have never tried a pump that wasnt advertized for diesel, so i cant help there but i can say i wouldnt recommend going cheap, the ppe lift pump is the cheapest i have ever sold and the loudest, it is cheap for a reason. all you can hear is a buzzing noise in the cab. fass and airdog are much better. on my own truck my fass system is silent when the truck is running. maybe some other ppl have an idea of a good deal that is better quality...?

also you should plan fo the future. pick a pump according to what kind of hp u want to make some day

The pumps from the 6.5 application are all but silent when in operation. Those pictured in this thread look physically simmiler, but there are several different versions. The particular one that I use produces 7 PSI.

Is 7 to 10 psi and 35 gph going to help anything? I know the AirDog and similar are much higher psi & gph.

If I remember correctly, a stock cp3 flows only about 80 gallons per hour at full tilt. So those lift pumps that flow 150 GPH are only causing excessive return rates from the pump. At least for those running a stock cp3. Also something to keep in mind, you don't want excessive lift pump pressuers, it can cause erratic idle, and the general inability of the FCA to accurately control rail pressure.

The pumps from the 6.5 application are all but silent when in operation. Those pictured in this thread look physically simmiler, but there are several different versions. The particular one that I use produces 7 PSI.

bump for a pic of the pump and how you wired it up

bump for a pic of the pump and how you wired it up


Unfortunately the truck is completely tore down right now for an engine build...the quest for more HP continues. I will be going a different route with my lift pump setup this time around, as these pumps are not quite enough for the HP goal that I'm shooting for, but did support 500 HP well.

Unfortunately the truck is completely tore down right now for an engine build...the quest for more HP continues. I will be going a different route with my lift pump setup this time around, as these pumps are not quite enough for the HP goal that I'm shooting for, but did support 500 HP well.

That's cool man. Thanks for the info!

Fuelab is worth a look. If your wife gets stuck on side of road what's that cost? I spent the money so it won't crap out. Just have to spend on certain things for safety.

Fuelab is worth a look. If your wife gets stuck on side of road what's that cost? I spent the money so it won't crap out. Just have to spend on certain things for safety.

The pumps we have been speaking of (factory 6.5) are completely flow-through. If the pump stops producing pressure, the factory fuel system will still perform just like the lift pump was never there. The fuel Labs pumps are pretty sweet though, if you have the coin to buy one...

If you get a 6.5 lift pump, get one for a 1993. They have higher flow.
Also AC Delco is the only brand of 6.5 lift pump that I have any consistant dependability out of. Seems to me they are in the $90 range.