So, the tracks that i pull on are mostly clay- I wanted to get a set of tires strictly for pulling- what will be the best choice? I will be mounting them on my stock takeoffs most likely or maybe on another set of H2s- THANKS for the help- Steven

33x12.5x17 TrXus STS Radial's on H2 rims work well for pulling only
315x70x17 or 305x65x17 BFG AT's on H2 rims work well for street/strip/pulling

I have 315.70.17s on my H2s right now, but i cant drop my torsion bars down any- i have them almost all the way up. I think that i need like a 285 or 33'' tire- I really like the TruXus STS tires, but i have heard that i takes alot of horsepower to turn them! i dont think that i am over 500 rwhp- would that be enough to get the necessary wheel speed on a 33'' STS? THANKS Steven

x2 on the STS's

I was able to snuff my truck out with 295 bfg's last year with around 540 550hp. I love them

imo, there is no clear cut answer.

Big (wide) tire on the rear and smaller on the front. As long as the radius/circumference is the same you should be OK.

i just picked up some 33 STSs for next year, hope ill be happy with em

Lets see some pix of those sts!!!

My thoughts are that the BFG AT's for under 600 RWHP work the best and over 600 RWHP the STS do better. Thats just what i found.

Anybody tried a 35" BFG Km2 on a big power truck

My thoughts are that the BFG AT's for under 600 RWHP work the best and over 600 RWHP the STS do better. Thats just what i found.

what if you have exactly 600 RWHP? Then what Tony? JK - you have a PM!

I have used 33/12.50-16.5 BFG A/Ts on 16.5x9.75 wheels on my '77 K-30 gasser for years with good results on clay tracks.

My thoughts are that the BFG AT's for under 600 RWHP work the best and over 600 RWHP the STS do better. Thats just what i found.
im def not over 600, owell i got em now, maybe that will be my incentive to keep on building it up

what if you have exactly 600 RWHP? Then what Tony? JK - you have a PM!SIMPLE! run two of each :D Than if you loose you can blame me for the idea :rolleyes: :D :D :D

Ok, would you suggest runing them on oposite corners or stick to one set on front and one on the back? I think STS up front and BFG's out back. Joking aside, that would actually probably work good for us that can't hang weight...

i hope you dont expect to drive anywhere onroad with the sts tires... they are made for sand dunes, and dont exactly wear very good on pavement!!

I'm planning on taking the pulling tires to the track in the back of the truck this year. I had traction issues last year that need to be delt with!

i just a got a set of 33x13.5x16 mt baja's on 16x10 eagle alloys. my first pull last year was on a set of 265 bgfs on pyo's.......... i did take 3rd though :) i can't wait to try the bajas

what kind of pulling surface do you see the most. dirt? clay? i think thats probably one of the most important variables when choosing a tire

will limestone really tear the STS tire apart? I don't want to have to own 2 sets of tires and rims...

Anyone ever pull with Nitto Terra Grappler tires? Has anyone compared them to the BFG AT's? I pulled once with mine and I think they actually worked real well...?

To bad testing is so tough with truck pulling. It's not like drag racing etc. where $20 get's you all the passes you want.

I run goodyear mt/r on the tracks here in east central Illinois and get along real well. Our tracks are a mix of clay with some sand on top for the horse racing they have at most of the fairs. This is a lot looser than the tracks in Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio from what I have heard. I have always wanted to know how much difference a set sts's would make good or bad.

Jeff

Hey moody, we need to have a beers night if you have time and talk trucks. The paris track was not bad compaired to the indiana track i pulled on, it was a dust bowl. But had potential! Charleston is about the same a hard clay mix track with a little soft top. But STS's would rock for around here.

I cannot speak to the differences in tires on my truck.....I have only ran BFG A/Ts from the word go.

Well, I did have 35" BFG M/Ts, but that was before I was making any serious HP.

A buddy of mine ran 33" BFG M/Ts for years, and switched to STSs for about 2 years. He traded the STSs for 33" BFG A/Ts last year. His reason for switching was his belief that the BFG A/Ts would be better on the clay tracks that we run on.

I can tell you this, before he bought his STSs, we were at Jeremy Naeger's (Custom Differentials Bloomsdale MO) one time for a pull. The track that day was loamy, and sort of soft. It was not like the hard packed clay like 90% of MO, and IL tracks are that we run on.

However, that day, the STS kicked everybody's butt. JMHO here, if I had to run loose tracks, I would go STSs, since I usually run hard clay, I will stay with my BFG A/Ts.

Hope this helps y'all.

jbuckles39 your like the direct tv commercial, looks like you did a little upgrade-upgrade since summer. Have you pulled with the new toys?

Jeff

what do you guys think of baja claws?

i'll let you know this spring after my first pull with them :)

Well that darn bug bit me and it got really bad! Now addicted! Yeah I pulled over at the Danville pull put on by Fleece Performance and Danville Performance. Didnt do bad, if they didnt allow duelies to run I would of took 4th. I and the truck have come leaps and bounds since my first pull there in ol pari'. So how bout those beers? Im in paris monday-friday and my truck every other day m-f.

Has anyone seen a 34-14.5-16 tire good for pullin?

what do you guys think of baja claws?


I wouldn't waist your money. They look real aggressive but dont perform that great. The lugs roll over on hard and tacky surfaces. Go sts or bfg a/t they are your two best choices.

I don't have much experience at pulling {only 2yrs} but in my experience it's hard to beat Cooper STT's. My buddy Derek is going to pick up some STS's for his D-max so maybe we can compare this season. I've run other tires and didn't do as well as this season with STT's. Worn Toyo M/T's work decent to in my experience.

I wouldn't waist your money. They look real aggressive but dont perform that great. The lugs roll over on hard and tacky surfaces. Go sts or bfg a/t they are your two best choices.

have you felt the lugs on an sts?

I wouldn't waist your money. They look real aggressive but dont perform that great. The lugs roll over on hard and tacky surfaces. Go sts or bfg a/t they are your two best choices.
where they pull and the drags they are accustomed to the claws work well. not every organization has the equipment that some of us get to use.

Anybody tried a 35" BFG Km2 on a big power truck

how'd u like the sts's on your altered truck?

what do you guys think of baja claws?
i really hate to give out a secret. . . but a half worn tread on a claw is hard to beat anywhere... look for them at a used tire shop

i've seen brand new claws on a 12v with 400hp and he made it 40 feet and the 3rd hop the input shaft let go i think there way to aggresive

Opinions:

1) A LOT of people buy Baja Claws because they look kinda like a tractor tire. They don't work well on tight clay. I think it's because the tread is too blocky (like a M/T) and once they get spinning, you're toast. The tops of the blocks have no siping and therefore not much grip. New, they can start to really dig on softer tracks (no good). A half-worn claw, as has been suggested above, will only work on tracks that really suit it - like 20% of 'em. The remainder of the tracks, they're lousy. I watched a guy run these for the better part of the summer, totally frustrated. Switched to STSes and he went right to the front. And this is in an unlimited single Pro Street class.

1a) I have seen cut & sharpened Claws (maybe 3/16" tread depth) that did run great, but most organizations prohibit this kind of thing now.

2) The STS will whoop just about everything else *IF* you have them aired up properly. Some people say they're "sensitive" to air pressure, but I think every tire is sensitive to the track, horsepower being applied, and the gear ratio and shift strategy you intend to use. And yeah, no street driving for the STS if you want it to work.

3) I personally believe that the size and width of a tire makes a lot of difference. I have always run the 12x35" so all my experience is with them (and they got me roughly 20 wins and a buncha top fives). I have been helping a friend with a CTD puller and the 33" STS does not seem to have the ultimate grip that my tires do, but again you have a gearing difference which may account for that.

4) The BFG works fine doing the 1-2-3 shift method if the tire is sharp and does not see the road. If you're going to be over 600 rwhp and you're going to try and grab 4th gear, then a worn and spun hard BFG works just fine. If you need an STS to be less grippy, just air them up.

Everyone can do what they want, but it's hard to go wrong with an STS. Learn to air them properly and I think you will do fine. This is why you see 'em on 90% of the serious trucks.

now what would be the right size tire for a truck with only a programer on 120hp? i plan on doing 1 or 2 this next year for the first time i got 265 75 16 bfg all ter. will that size work fine?

anybody run 35's w/ 3.73's ? i'm thinking with 2.8/twin cp3 4th gear/3.73/33'' tires is better than 4th or 3rd gear/3.73/35'' tires. not sure:confused:

will limestone really tear the STS tire apart? I don't want to have to own 2 sets of tires and rims...

Anyone ever pull with Nitto Terra Grappler tires? Has anyone compared them to the BFG AT's? I pulled once with mine and I think they actually worked real well...?

To bad testing is so tough with truck pulling. It's not like drag racing etc. where $20 get's you all the passes you want.

Nittos are terrible. I had brand new ones put on my truck at the beginning of the pulling season. Just no grip. Go with STS's or BFG AT's!

now what would be the right size tire for a truck with only a programer on 120hp? i plan on doing 1 or 2 this next year for the first time i got 265 75 16 bfg all ter. will that size work fine?


i took 3rd in a local pull with those last year. imho they are too narrow and you have to drop the pressures WAY down to make them hook well. i was 25 front and 50 rear i wish i was 10-12 front and 35-40 rear looking back and i might have bumped to 2nd or maybe 1st. i was also running a mild-moderate tow tune i made in efi, maybe 350-375 rwhp. suspension and tires are key to put the power to the ground and being able to use it. i got a set of claws for this year to try out.

well i just got 285 75 16 dick cepek mud country tires but the lugs are huge would those work at all?

i've seen brand new claws on a 12v with 400hp and he made it 40 feet and the 3rd hop the input shaft let go i think there way to aggresive
thats why you only use ones with the tread at 50%. . .

thats why you only use ones with the tread at 50%. . .
it was funny watching it!!

have you felt the lugs on an sts?

Yup they are super soft. I would never run them on the street for that reason. I have run 315/70/17bfg a/t for the last 2 seasons and love them. Super versatile tire. The reason I would never run claws or boggers or any other super aggressive tire is lack of versatility. If you happen to run in loose conditions all the time then sure they might be a great choice.
-Curtis

well i just got 285 75 16 dick cepek mud country tires but the lugs are huge would those work at all?

I think they'll do OK for just once or twice. With only a 120 hp programmer, it's unlikely that you'll be near the front, so put 'em on and have fun. If you want to do your best, don't run 'em on the road. The sharp edges are important.

anybody run 35's w/ 3.73's ? i'm thinking with 2.8/twin cp3 4th gear/3.73/33'' tires is better than 4th or 3rd gear/3.73/35'' tires. not sure:confused:

Sure, that's a setup that a lot of people use successfully. You're going to need 600+ rwhp to hang 4th gear unless the tracks are loose and/or you find a high enough pressure point to keep 'em from bogging you on the 3-4 upshift.

I think they'll do OK for just once or twice. With only a 120 hp programmer, it's unlikely that you'll be near the front, so put 'em on and have fun. If you want to do your best, don't run 'em on the road. The sharp edges are important.
i don't plan on being toward the front just yet!!!Garret Schield of pure diesel power runs them and no way i could compete with that!! my buddy has about 500 hp in his 12v and he places in the top 10 i just want to see how good it would do.i'll probably just run my 265 bfg's

Yup they are super soft. I would never run them on the street for that reason. I have run 315/70/17bfg a/t for the last 2 seasons and love them. Super versatile tire. The reason I would never run claws or boggers or any other super aggressive tire is lack of versatility. If you happen to run in loose conditions all the time then sure they might be a great choice.
-Curtis

well said imo

i don't plan on being toward the front just yet!!!Garret Schield of pure diesel power runs them and no way i could compete with that!! my buddy has about 500 hp in his 12v and he places in the top 10 i just want to see how good it would do.i'll probably just run my 265 bfg's
to hell with it:D I want it all ,I want 1st to hell with 2nd your just the first looser:eek:

to hell with it I want it all ,I want 1st to hell with 2nd your just the first looser

"if ya aint first your last":D

give me time i gotta save for tranny mods!! then i'll go for 1st!!

Sure, that's a setup that a lot of people use successfully. You're going to need 600+ rwhp to hang 4th gear unless the tracks are loose and/or you find a high enough pressure point to keep 'em from bogging you on the 3-4 upshift.

ok so 35's with 3.73's in 4th gear will work. now let me throw something else out there..... the truck weighs 6500lbs. so i think it will make it that much harder to get the power to the ground.

i have a set of M.T. 305 65 16 MTZ's that have been working great but am always looking for something better.

What do guys think of running Toyo Open Country MTs- Like i have said before, i am right around 500 rwhp- would these work on tight clay if i kept them aired up? Just curious- i had found a set with the wheels that i wanted- but if the tires wont work, then i will be passing on the buy! THANKS Steven

What do guys think of running Toyo Open Country MTs- Like i have said before, i am right around 500 rwhp- would these work on tight clay if i kept them aired up? Just curious- i had found a set with the wheels that i wanted- but if the tires wont work, then i will be passing on the buy! THANKS Steven
there is no give to the toyo's. they are an extremely hard tire. airing down doesn't seem to help much since they are a 10 ply. don't get me wrong it's an awesome tire but just not ideal for pulling. like we've said either sts or bfg at.

So on pulling tires do you go with new tires or get a set that has some miles under them what works better. :confused:

Definitely NEW tires work better- sharp rubber makes a big difference! The only thing that i have heard working for worn rubber is an agrressive mud terrrain- i know a guy that runs Nitto Mud Grapplers at less that 50 % tread and dominates alot of pulls! --Steven

I have worn out bfg mud terrain now 265/75/16 or do i get new 285/75/16 bfg AT?

I havent hooked to a sled yet- but from what everyone has said to me, there is no beating sharp BFG ATs! Im saving right now so that i can get my set before the season starts! GOOD LUCK_ steven

Sure, that's a setup that a lot of people use successfully. You're going to need 600+ rwhp to hang 4th gear unless the tracks are loose and/or you find a high enough pressure point to keep 'em from bogging you on the 3-4 upshift.

When you guys are saying 4th gear do you mean 4th high:confused::eek:

When you guys are saying 4th gear do you mean 4th high:confused::eek:

Nope, 4th Low

Okay thought that sounded fast as hell.

Do all of you guys that pull always stay in low range:confused:

I used to pull in 4hi 1st gear but have found 4lo 3rd or 4th works better depending on the track.

i used a cheap tire but it was the best thing i have ever used. they were prime well pa1000

Okay thought that sounded fast as hell.

Do all of you guys that pull always stay in low range:confused:

Many of the manual guys have tried the "High Side" and even some with automatics. Automatics have mixed success (I believe those with success was due to the type of sled) on the high side and it's HELL on the transmission/converter, you need a really loose track or a really light sled (or both).

My advice with an Alli is to stay on the low side to start....

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